I got two that stick out in my mind. Chris Lee shooting a -7 at Kinston and Brian Schweberger shooting a -10 second round at the Oak Hollow (longest layout).

I'm sure that you have to include the -18's that have been recorded at Horizon Park on the list of great rounds shot in NC. We all have personal favorites but I would love to share mine.

In the '97 World's in Charlotte, I played mixed doubles with Colleen Dee. The format was alternating shot with the women always teeing on the odd holes and the men teeing on the even holes. We started at Hornets Nest and shot a poor round, maybe 4. I think we were on the 7th card or maybe even farther back. Everything is foggy now but I remember Deb Renner was in the group. The 2nd round at Kilbourne had some of the hardest rain that I have ever played in. My expectations weren't that great but Colleen sure surprised me. She made puts from everywhere and we ended up shooting -9 and tied for 2nd place, one stroke back of Stan and Beth.

This may not impress everyone, but it left a lasting impression on me.

Chris, that was a fun round at Kilbourne in the zone. I'd have to say it was my peak performance in the 90s. I think we surprised most of the field.

Not to brag but I shot a 41 (-13) at Kilbourne at the 97 Worlds. -8 on the back 9. I'm sure some of you Charlotte locals will probably say no way! But I did par the two long ones and had an ace on Hole 13. One of my best rounds ever, except for that last hole where I CHOKED the putt for -14. I'm blaming my boy Je Mela on that one, he reminded me that the course record was -12 before I putted it. J/K Joe I choked it off.

Schweb shoting that 10 from the ludicris pads was unreal.Greg Williams with 27 straight birdies at horizons.Mike Warner and I shoting a 47 at Renny.

how about stan shooting 44 43 41 42 at kilborne
in the 99 fall finale

how about taylor barnes age 9
shooting a 69 in chapel hill (22 holes)

Wheetie,

I'll have to chime in on behalf of Taylor! If I had a forehand like his, I could have saved 10 strokes easy in Kinston this weekend!

LW

How about taylor shooting even par at Kilbourne finishing in front of about 60 players that didn't make it to charleston last year.

What about the crazy rounds Larry had at last years Burlington Pro-Am. Can't remember the scores but he was breaking course records all weekend. Something like a -10 from the long, long on the open course and a -13 from the long wooded course. 16 strokes ahead of second place.

And while some make think this is a little easier, Gary Carmichael and myself shooting a -17 at Oak Hollow from the shorts in a random doubles. Sounds easy until you try it. 17 birds and the automatic par on 18.

Taylor Barnes was my partner in Disclanding Doubles at Hornets Nest today. This 9 year old boy rolled #2 to the treeline, about 60-70 ft. past my drive in the air and YES, we used his drive. I was even more impressed with his golf etiquette. Someone should stop him before he wins all of our money!

Matt, is Taylor a local boy, and if so, what course has he been cutting his teeth on?

Hi Stan, Taylor is the beutiful Ms. Tracy Barnes' son (of Wheetie and Tracy fame.) He said they live closest to Reedy Creek, but play everywhere. He's a very polite and courteous chap. Good job Tracy!

I had a fun time at chapel hill
I liked everybody being a good sport about me
playing in the ams
disclanding doubles is great but matt are you
sure you dont mind playing with a 9 year old?
stan, boy would I love to play a round with you
just name the time and the place Ill be there
ps I live closest to ren not reedy
and I wish we had a course near by
(william davies)
Taylor Barnes

thanks mat for the comments on taylors manners
I want him to learn the right way to play
and Im not talking about his drive
Id also just like to say thank you for everyone
helping us all feel comfortable out there
when it comes to leaving taylor with foursomes, that I cant be in.

Tracy Barnes

Hey everyone
Taylor has probably played kilbourne the most
but we do make it out to reny alot. He would sure love to play with you stan. give us a call
if you have any time 704 643 0008.

Wheetie

Okay Taylor, I'll see if I can hook up with Wheetie soon to arrange a tee time. I don't usually play on weekends, but I will make the time.

Stan, Be careful, This kid can Rip!! Taylor is going to be one of those players that takes our sport to the next level in the future. Not only can this kid play, but he is well mannered and just an all around "good" kid. Both I and my wife have had the pleasure of playing with his mom and as they say the apple does not fall far from the tree. Tracey has an awesome little man in her Taylor,I think she haS done a great job in raising him and it shows in the way he conducts himself on and off the course. Wheetie better watch out because Taylor will be kicking his [*****] soon.

Mike D (#12941)

(1)How about Larry Leonard shooting 4 -17's at Horizons in the tournament. And in practice before those rounds shooting -20 with a couple of aces. Eventhough it's Horizons, That's Awesome!!
(2)Back in '94 at the am nationals (Laurel Springs NC) Alan Roberts shot a 58 without a birdie. Now if you've never played LS then you won't know what I'm talking about,(and you missed out on the greatest course that will never be played again) but for example it would be like shooting a couple under at Renny or Hornets Nest without getting a deuce. Stan correct me if I'm wrong.

Anything under 60 was good. I had numerous rounds without a deuce there. I did shoot a 51 once. It was one of the best rounds I have ever played. It is the only time I broke 54 there and I only shot 54 once. Talk about a course that we miss. Climo had an incredible round there but I forget his score.

My last round there was my only 54, and I was 2 under with 18, 1 and 2 to go- I blew it!
Crazy John shot 2 50s the year he won.
Climo shot a 49
Valencia shot a 48
Stokely shot a 47

Stan, do you think we'd all play the same course a lot better now? We are throwing farther, and we are much more accustomed to playing par 4s and 5s. For example, #6 would be a simple hyzer shot instead of a crush, #8 would be reachable, #s 10 and 11 would be much easier. Walt could probably hit the green on 5! Whaddya think?

I'd like to think so, with disc technology and better strategy from playing par 4's and 5's and such. However, as the years have progressed, I would honestly have to go into a training program to strengthen my legs and wind etc to be able to have the stamina to compete on a course like that. Wouldn't it be cool to have the property open to us for a tourny again ??? That would be cool. Hopefully, since we had to scrub the Wild Turkey event for springtime, Billy will be off tour later this year and he can make the appropriate arrangements so that we can revisit that incredible Boylanesque property belonging to Scott Radley's grampa.
Hit the green on 5 !!??? I was always happy just to be in the fairway instead of in or across the road. I don't think I could hit the green even now.

Stan, I think he said Snoop could hit it, not you.
Sorry.
Your still the man!

It's too funny to hear you guys on one hand talk about "par 4s and 5s" and on the other hand refer to a "5" on a hole that John Daly couldn't reach with a perfect 3-wood shot (if it was wide open) as a "double bogey". Man we got a long way to go. But I hope it's fun getting there. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
I'll bet that 47 that Mark earlier refered to as a -7 was more like a -10 or -11! That was a smokin' round!

Justin Jernigan shooting a 48 from the Blue tees at the Buckhorn Open on 2/14/04. That score is unreal!!!!

Greg Williams shooting a 45 at Zebulon during ChaChing and zing last year. This was also during some nasty winds.

LL shot a -14 (40) at OHO this year from the blues and a 48 from Bludes....UNREAL

and yes the 48 by JJ is just rediculous

that's ridiculous

Chris Lee set a new official course record at Castle Hayne last month with a 56 (8 under course par) - 1st round Azalea Tourney.
Only 8 rounds under 60 all weekend I think. He loves those wooded courses. Thanks for the "Leopard" advice too Chris, works well with my "Cheetah"

Chris Lee set a new official course record at Castle Hayne last month with a 56



Did he hold on to win Advanced?

Mike Joe Bob shooting some stupid 40 something at Hornets might be the best ever.

Can't somebody just look up the ratings? Shouldn't that decide it?

Can't somebody just look up the ratings? Shouldn't that decide it?



Mikey Joe at Hornets 1081
Chris Lee at Castle Hayne 1013
LL round 4 at OHO 1083
LL round 2 at OHO 1044
Schweb and Snoop round 3 at OHO 1045
JJ at Buckhorn no rating shown

Greg Williams course-record round at Zebulon was 43, not 45. That's -13 considering the two holes over 600' as par-fours.

Greg Williams 43 zeb 1072

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Chris Lee set a new official course record at Castle Hayne last month with a 56



Did he hold on to win Advanced?

Chris Lee plays Open full time now I guess, he finished 2nd behind Hofmann. Local Adam Weaks won Advanced over Sanford's Ron Kirik and Charlotte's Dave Marchant.

JJ's round will probably be around 1050 I'm guessing


Theres not doubt that Mike Joes 44 at Hornets Nest is the best round ever played in NC

Heres some others ppl may be forgetting.....
Ron Russells 60 on Renny Gold (1046)
Robbie Dunn had a 1042 round at Valley Springs (41).....maybe the best adv. round ever in a NC PDGA

In NC PDGA's last year, there were not many advanced players to shoot over 1000 rounds....heres who did it

Ryan Pickens 1015 - 47 - OHO Blue, Mookys Cup
Tony Gerling - 1005 -49 - Buckhorn White, Buckhorn Open
Nate Bond and Adam Weeks - 1016,1010 - 57 - Castle Hayne - Azeala
Craig Whitney - 1022 - 44 - Valley - Tarheel
Jeff Yahn - 1010 - 45 - Valley - Tarheel
Jay LAnd, Bryan Oshnock - 1013 - 44 - Valley - BIg Valley
Chad Kawaminani - 1005 - 53 - Asvhille
David Gray - 1008 - 46 - Reedy Creek - PB 1
Robert Leonard - 1016 - 48 - Kilbourne Long - PB 4
David Young - 1000 - 50 Zeb - cha ching a zing
DAvid Young - 1024 - 45 - OHO Blue - OHO
Fluke - 1001 - 47 - OHO Blue - OHO
Caleb Wood - 1002 - 42 - OHO white - OHO
Jeff Yahn - 1024 - 46 - Cedar Hills - Am states
Caleb Wood - 1005 - 46 - Wellspring long - Sneeky
JJ - 1020 - 46 - Wellsping long - sneeky
JJ- 1002 - 51- Hornests NEst - Fall Finale
Adam Weeks - 1007 - 46 - Richlands - Fall Disc Golf
JJ - 1005 - 45 - Richlands - Fal Disc Golf
Jeff Yahn - 1042 - 42 - Cornwallis Alts - Bull City
JJ - 1003 - 45 - Cronwallis alts - Bull City
Robbie Dunn - 1042 - 41 - valley - bull city
JJ - 1002 - 44 - Calley - Bull City


Wow that took a while, but I think its intresting and was worht the time, plus it gave me another excuse to mention my 48 at Kilbourne this summer :D

I noticed some previous comments on this thread about the Boylan Farms course in the mtn's and was wondering if someone could recollect and fill us in on what a bad ***** place this was, and about the LSO's and why the course is no longer there! DG in NC rules, and I was never fortunate enough to play this legendary course. Fill me in!

Thanks Adam W.

Why will the Laurel Springs course never be played again? I know there was talk of it a couple of years ago from either Stan or Crump. I know its on private land, but please don't say never again!

my best rated round in NC was a 42 at Wellspring from the longs a 1069. didn't feel like my best but i'm not to fond of the ratings system either. I definitely wouldn't say it was anywhere close to Chris' -7 at Kinston yet it was only a 1058. I feel Chris' should be at least 1080 if not more. Ratings suck! :(

I played EVERY LSO (I think there were 7), and the Boylan Family Farm course was the first of the BIG courses - introduced when stingrays and cobras were the high tech discs of choice. The course was not HUGE by todays standards - only 7700 feet in length - which made the average length of hole 428, w/ the shortest hole on the course 307 - uphill (played like a solid 400'). Tons of elevation change - as it was situated on a 52 acre christmas tree farm - whose driveway was off the blue ridge parkway.

Alas - Bill Boylan ultimately sold the farm - so the course is no longer in existence.

Some of my fondest DG memories came from the farm - what a cool place :)

Craig,

you have a private message.

yes - 47 at kinston is insane.....i think thats gotta be in the top 5 rounds in NC history

Thanks for the explaination GANG... I was wondering if anyone had any pictures to go with the stories?

My bad Hofmann, don't want to jinx the comeback!

I have some footage of the 94 Am Nationals, were I took fourth. Carlton Howard has video of him, The Beave and Goob(Lambert) throwing the course with "some new disc they call the Roc". It was awesome!!!

I would like to think that my -8 (1071) last year in the bad weather @ Zebulon during the Crosstown was pretty good. :D:D

Wow!!! We've had posts from Wheetie, Tracy, and PP... What's up guys? I haven't seen y'all forever it seems like. Hope to see you at Burlington this year!

Also a post from M Hofmann, another seldom seen poster. Since he posted under the 'Best Round in NC' subject, I'd like to nominate his 42 at Wellspring in the Pro/Am last year. Mike said "I lost my lucky mini" right before the start of the round! He then proceded to shoot lights out, he was unconcious. Props to Mike, who likes to come and play golf in the Old Dominion!

Good luck to everyone that's playing in the Tarheel tournament which should be teeing off right... about... now! :D

another ryan pickens round -8 at the 03 hickory classic

I think that if you check the dates on the posts you will see that they are very old.

Thanks, Nate. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I'm an idiot.

Like I said, they're seldom seen.

That was MY record, I shot a -12 at Kilbourne the year earlier, sorry the tourny name slipped my mind :confused:, but what I remember is 13 birdies with one bogey, best round of the tourny, all divisions! Zeb Cambell was in my group, and also had a hot round at -9 I believe.

It could have been 1998 now that I think about it, but I was playing ADV. at the time. but we played Kilbourne and Hornets Nest for the tourny. What ever happened to Kirk Temple, Scott Sprule (sp), Tony Fisher, Kyle (cartman).

Vince...

How's the course in the backyard coming???
I would love to see it.

What's up, BS? Looked like you had LL beat at the 'Heel. It's ok, you're still a pimp. Once you beat him a few times, it'll be your turn to win 70-some PDGA tournaments. :D If only you could weild discs like you do rhymes!

The course at the farm is 36 holes, eleven baskets, about 15,000 feet, thinking man's course, with a Cedarock/PawPaw/Pleasant Run flava, and the views make you feel like you're trippin. Other than that it's ok. Within the year, it truly will be in my backyard when we build the homestead.

Bring whoever you want and come up sometime, just let me know. The grass is already starting to grow, so you've got a few weeks. If not, I'll let you know when we're playing it

Good luck at X-Town!

Justin Jernigan shooting a 48 from the Blue tees at the Buckhorn Open on 2/14/04. That score is unreal!!!!



I second the vote for JJ's 48 at the Buckhorn Open. Especially when you see the other scores for that round:
52 Larry Leonard
53 Chris Lee
54 Carlton Howard, Walter Haney, Greg Williams, Kirk Yoo, Luke Reiser.

Wasn't the weather harsh that day too?

At a Kentwood monthly Justin Jernigan had a 2 round total of 79. According to course pro Jim Markov breaking 80 has been very rare in the last 20 years. I believe JJ's two rounds were 41 (-13) and 38 (-16).

The first round was just cold. The rain didn't start until the beginning of the second round.

MJ's 44 at Hornets Nest was unreal.
GTW's 43 at Zebulon was incredible.
Snoop's 46 at Zebulon in the sheistiest ***** weather ever was the best ever in my opinion.

At a Kentwood monthly Justin Jernigan had a 2 round total of 79. According to course pro Jim Markov breaking 80 has been very rare in the last 20 years. I believe JJ's two rounds were 41 (-13) and 38 (-16).




While it is Kentwood, I witnessed the 38 second round....JJ tapped in for birdie on -11, had to make a 30 footer and 12, tapped in on 13, hit a tree on 14 and 15, and tapped on 16-18

Not only did he shoot -16, but he had one putt between 20-30 feet....his two pars were tap in

it was amazing to watch

joe weldin shot a 43 11under from the shorts in new bern in a three rivers tourney. rated a 1033 i believe.

yeah that was rather sick

Snoop's 48, 46 at the crosstown last year, Zebulon (wind,rain,sleet,snow,blah,blah,blah...) were prolly the sickest rouds to date in this state. Overall there is no contest!! It was AMAZING, almost unthought off in those conditions until he actually threw it!!

Then I would have to say GTW setting a PDGA record of 27 staight birdies at horizon. I dont care how short it is, to do it in competition....that !*^$# dont come Ezzzzz.

My best may rated round may be (41) -13 at Mooky's this year.

so what rating would stans amazing 15 under be on wellspring long? not sure what year he did it but, im sure he probably does.

"Robbie Dunn had a 1042 round at Valley Springs (41).....maybe the best adv. round ever in a NC PDGA"

Don't forget about BS shootin a -8 at the OHO AM 2 years ago from the bludes.

As for best round ever. LL's -20 during a practice round at Horizons. That's an average of 1.888 strokes per hole.

But I do like the fact that my TEAM has some of the best scores out there.
Snoop
GTW
Stan
LL
Beave and
Zeb have all been mentioned here.

Keep it up fellas and Mandi.

What ever happened to Kirk Temple, Scott Sprule (sp), Tony Fisher, Kyle (cartman).



I see Kirk quite often. He plays a round here and there. I am pretty sure that he is done with tourneys for the most part. I believe he tore some tendons in a finger on his throwing hand. I still have never seen someone throw a hyzer as far as he can.

I remember an Am shooting a 40 at Kentwood in '93. He was good.

I remember an Am shooting a 40 at Kentwood in '93. He was good.


In 93?!?!?! That was a long time ago. That guy is probably old an washed up by now! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Chris, Who was it anyway? :D

It was a newbie hot stud golfer named Chris Hysell. A few days later he had his 1st ace. He went on to bigger and better things.

like acting in a *** porn called

"The biggest head"

"Robbie Dunn had a 1042 round at Valley Springs (41).....maybe the best adv. round ever in a NC PDGA"

Don't forget about BS shootin a -8 at the OHO AM 2 years ago from the bludes.





with two bogeys.

Thanks for the props Rick...I just couldn't mention it myself...You know how modest I am.

I think I may have had my least impressive round ever at Kinston on Sunday.

Dont forget the 2003 Oak Hollow Open Final Round: Lead card 1st -4th were seperated by three shots: Schweb, Mad Dawg, Snoop and LL. then Larry Leonard busts out a -14 from the longs rated at 1083. Beating all three by 7 shots that round and winning his third OHO. Hope he and all other NC Pros will be able to make it back this July 24-25, 2004.

But what did you shoot tater :D

i actually mentioned that in an earlier post...

Heres my rankings of the best rounds shot in NC history
1. Mike Jo - 44 - Hornets Nest
2. Chris Lee - 47 - Kinston
3. LL - 40 - OHO Blue
4. Ron Russel - 60 - Renny Golf
5. Snoop - 48 - Zeb (Xtown 03)

Agree or disagree ppl?

Based on weather alone, I would move Walt's Sunday performance at the crosstown up to the top! Not sure what the weather was like for the other events, but if it was as nasty as the Crosstown, then maybe I would reconsider.

2. Chris Lee - 47 - Kinston
3. LL - 40 - OHO Blue




Let's see, the closest scores to Lee were
5 strokes by a 959 player
6 strokes by a 979 player
7 strokes by a 987 player

The closest to LL were
6 strokes by a 968 player
7 strokes by a 1023 player
7 strokes by a 1017 player
7 strokes by a 1013 player

SO WTF
I bet you can't shoot in the 40's in Kingstown.

I've never been there but I've heard it's easy. :D

2. Chris Lee - 47 - Kinston
3. LL - 40 - OHO Blue




Let's see, the closest scores to Lee were
5 strokes by a 959 player
6 strokes by a 979 player
7 strokes by a 987 player

The closest to LL were
6 strokes by a 968 player
7 strokes by a 1023 player
7 strokes by a 1017 player
7 strokes by a 1013 player



spoken like a guy who has never played Kinston

ratings don't mean crap!

SO WTF
I bet you can't shoot in the 40's in Kingstown.



*****, I bet you cant shoot in the 50's.

I'd say Ron's 60 on Renny gold takes the cake. I mean ****, 60 is a cashing score for the original layout!

ratings don't mean crap!



First of all, that's pretty funny coming from a guy who never hesitates to point out his highest rated rounds ever, including on this very thread.

SEcondly, I didn't say anything about the rating for the round; rather, only how many strokes he beat other players by, and a relative measure of how good those players are.

Finally, for anyone who would really like to "bet" what I can and can not shoot at Kinston, name your amount and your score. However, minimum bet is $500 per round.

Love,
Vincent

A bet you know no one will accept is not really a bet

ratings do not portray great rounds well or poor rounds well....there are best when its in the middle....i was just stating facts about my ratings - if u look at my list of top 5 most impressive rounds, they are opinions, based on the courses, which I have all played, and in Zebs case, the weather (which i was at the tournament for)

you were trying to say that LL beat better players by the same amount of strokes, which is why I pointed the reatings comment...

I played great golf this past weekend at kinston and shot 60 - its just that tough - 47 out there is insane...its obvious you have not played it based on ur comment - or that ur just a flat out idiot.....im thinking it could be both...I have no idea who you are, which makes me think you are not from the NC area simply becuase I know just about everyone who plays competive golf in the area

I played great golf this past weekend at kinston and shot 60 - its just that tough - 47 out there is insane...


ummm... i saw it, it wasn't 'great'. i hesitate to call it 'good'

Vincent,
I'll take that bet. $500 - one round at Kinston?
fudge what you can or cannot shoot. lets go head 2 head.
what's your last name , anyway?

I bet a lot of people would be willing to front $500 that you can't beat or match the 47 at Kinston from the layout that Chris shot his 47.

I would be willing to bet on that bet that others are willing to bet. However, my budget allows me to only bet 500 pennies.

I'll take that bet.
Name the time and date and I'll be there!

****... didn't get anyone to accept my bet before Cuttaz jumped in there accepting your bet. Oh well...

Why don't we make it $5,000...then it would be worth my time.

I'm not laughing or joking.

TT always goes big

5k. :eek: What's that......thats the sound of silence! /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

MOJO aint playin around! Of course if I had that type of bling layin around, it sure wouldnt be used to play a round at Kinston with someone who doesent seem to know Whhhaaaatt they are talking about! I dont see him steppin' up to even take f.luke or CuTTaz proposition!

See you boyz on the green!

-mdub

If this Shiat goes down, I WANT TO SEE IT! One round for 5k, I will hold the cash for you guys! :D

Hey Vincent... You know we are talking about the longs right? LOL

You guys are hilarious.

In case you forget, the question was:


Heres my rankings of the best rounds shot in NC history
1. Mike Jo - 44 - Hornets Nest
2. Chris Lee - 47 - Kinston
3. LL - 40 - OHO Blue
4. Ron Russel - 60 - Renny Golf
5. Snoop - 48 - Zeb (Xtown 03)

Agree or disagree ppl?




Yes, that's right, he asked "agree or disagree"?

I never said 47 at Kinston was easy.

I merely posted some facts. Namely, the 47 beat a bunch of mediocre Open players by 5, 6, and 7 strokes; while at the same time, the 40 beat some of THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD by 7, 7, and 7 strokes.

These facts only point out that possibly the original poster's list is slightly flawed. Come on, he did ask for opinions, didn't he? Nobody's saying the 47 isn't good, we're just talking about relative ordering of rounds. Keep in mind the dude that made the list is the same guy that says he "shot great" and made a 60. Maybe a 940 round is "great" in his book, but maybe it shows the value of his opinion.

Has anybody good ever played Kinston so we can compare to what they shot?

Has anybody good ever played Kinston so we can compare to what they shot?



So by your own ommision, your no good, and have played Kinston! :D:D:D:eek: :confused:

not a flame war, just an observation.

there were a couple of guys (Brian Schweberger/Mike Hofmann) that shot 57's at ONE MOE. but i wouldn't call them "good"

there were a couple of guys (Brian Schweberger/Mike Hofmann) that shot 57's at ONE MOE. but i wouldn't call them "good"


Weather was a factor that day.

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I merely posted some facts. Namely, the 47 beat a bunch of mediocre Open players by 5, 6, and 7 strokes; while at the same time, the 40 beat some of THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD by 7, 7, and 7 strokes.[QUOTE]


this is the worst reasoning I've seen since greedo decided to shoot first.
the comparison you are making is fallacious because you only do it to suit your needs. yes the 40 beat some great players by 7 strokes, but you can't make any judgements against the 47 jsut because the filed wasn't top caliber. quit backtracking or stalling you want the bet or not? better hurry up its only getting thicker out there.

Has anybody good ever played Kinston so we can compare to what they shot?



To put it in perspective for you Vince... That's the only round in the 40's I've ever heard of, much less in a tourney. Played a monthly out there this past weekend. There were only 6 rounds in the 50s(the best being a 55) out of probably 40 people.

Has anybody good ever played Kinston so we can compare to what they shot?



WCP at Kinston is 55.04

Which means a 60 is like 950.......at least my profile has my PDGA number so I dont hide and talk [*****] about crap I have no clue what I'm talking about

Kinston Tournament Results

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=2483&year=2004&include_ratings=1#Advanced

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=2916&year=2004&include_ratings=1#Open

I guess Carlton Howard and Kirk Yoo arent good

Yeah and some guy named Schweb shot 57 - yeah he sucks

And you think you can shoot in the 40s.....HAHAHA

Are you guys trying to be funny? If so, good show!

You do understand that I'm not knocking the 47 right? I mean, you could turn around what you're saying and say that you're claiming the 40 at OHO is crap. Nobody is saying either. The 47 is way hot. No question. It's just that the 40 is hotter.

So nobody has ever shot in the 40's other than the 47. Okay. So has anybody ever shot 41 or 42 on the same course as LL's 40? No, didn't think so.

And to answer some other questions, no, Howard and Yoo aren't exactly world class. Sorry. And Scheb's 57 was in weather. And a 60 on a 55wcp is probably a 945 but if you think 950 is 'shooting great' then fine. Oh, and I'm horrible. A couple of you were actually smart enough to see the weak bait of the bet. The rest are fools. Come on fellas. You realize that Shultz and Climo would average a 49 at Kinston, right?

You realize that Shultz and Climo would average a 49 at Kinston, right?


Well what would they average on the course that LL shot a 40 on? If your gonna research what Climo and Schultz would average, you should at least check both, dont ya think?

So has anybody ever shot 41 or 42 on the same course as LL's 40?




Schweb shot a 44 from harder tees.


You realize that Shultz and Climo would average a 49 at Kinston, right?



Highly doubtful buddy. When was the last time either one of them won a tourney on a tight NC course? Larry or Haney maybe but still doubtful. I did talk to Schweb and he has shot a 49 a handfull of times.


BTW you going to tell us your name? Rating? When you are gonna show up at Kinston so we can all laugh at you while you try to find your lost discs or when you take 5 mins to crawl into the schule to place your foot behind your disc only to pitch out into the fairway, lay up and take your 5??? LOL!

im friends w/ Schweb - i played 2 days before One Moe when w/ him.....the weather was beautiful - he shot 54...I've played a lot of rounds w/ him - and i thought he played about average (which based on his rating and WCP, was an average round)

I've played both courses, and there is no way a 40 on OHO blue is better - that 40 is still an amazing record that will not be beaten, but neither will the 47

You realize that Shultz and Climo would average a 49 at Kinston, right?







not knocking the two kings of our sport - but look at the last three crosstowns on NC style courses

Did you see Climo or Shultz at the top?

Finally, for anyone who would really like to "bet" what I can and can not shoot at Kinston, name your amount and your score. However, minimum bet is $500 per round.

Love,
Vincent



I believe you issued a challenge, and that your challenge has been accepted to the tune of $6000 by FLuke, Cuttaz, and Mojo. Unfortunately for you, you did not include in your challenge the right to refuse to accept any bets offered.

I cannot help but observe, however, that the terms of your challenge are what YOU can or cannot shoot at Kingston, not whether you can beat any particular player in a head-to-head match, and that the bettor may name the amount of the bet and the score you must achieve to win the bet.

Were I greedy, I would bet you an unconscionable sum that you cannot shoot -60 for one round at Kingston and hold you to to your terms. As you have committed $6000 in the three bets offered prior to mine, however, I will bet you my $1000 to your $500 that you cannot shoot -36 relative to WCP in any single round in your matches against FLuke, Cuttaz, or Mojo.

What is Pro Par (or SSA if need be) for Kinston from the Blue tees?

And what are the pars of the holes over 3?

While I'm at it, what is Pro Par for High Point from the Ludicrous tees?

I'd say par at kinston from the blues is 56 - there are two holes out there where a 3 is a good score

The blues at OHO are probably par 55, the ludes are probably 56ish

Chris Lee shooting a -7 at Kinston ...



Since Par is still an elusive concept I suggest that it would be more accurate to stick to the total score, in this case 47. Even though we all know what you mean I don't think that par for that layout was 54. It should be higher, so shooting a 47 is even more remarkable.

But the same goes for shooting a 40 at Oak Hollow. Was LLs round from the Ludicrous tees or the long tees?

blues

Robert,

Thanks for the quick response, but does anyone have more exact info?

At High Point from the Blues and the Ludicrous tees, which holes are over par 3?

[quote...Brian Schweberger shooting a -10 second round at the Oak Hollow (longest layout).

[/QUOTE]

Mark,
I assume you mean Schweberger shooting a 44 from the ludicrous tees. I submit that this is not really a -10 because Pro Par for that layout is greater than 54.

Can someone tell us what Pro Par is for Johnson St. Park from the Ludicrous tees? And which holes are greater than par 3?

At OHO, I don't think that anything is par 4 from the ludes (except 18 which is always par 4). #15 probably will be but we haven't played 15 lude in a t'ment. But there are a bunch of HARD par 3's!

Kinston is at least a par 57, I think. There are 2 relatively short doglegs that are both par 4's, and there is another long dogleg (#5, before the short tunnel hole) that is at least a par 4.

LL's 40 at the OHO stands out to me only because of the huge number of t'ment rounds played there and only a couple rounds are even in that league.

CLee's 47 at Kinston is weakened slightly by my own 52 (rating 1000+) there in the same t'ment. I only have about 3 1000+ rounds ever (out of 500+ PDGA rounds, rating 940).

$0.02,
LW

#5 is def a par 4. I think #9 qualifies for a par 4 as well. I would say par is 58 at K-town.

None of the SSAs for Johnson St. are over 53. Not sure if the longest "Ludicrous" setup is in here?
http://www.pdga.com/tournament/course_ratings_by_course.php?RatingCourseID=157

#9.. WTF??

thats reachable with a strong sidearm... just because you 4 it often doesn't make it a par 4

Sorry OG, I gotta agree with CCP in this one #9 is not a par 4. IMHO #2 and #5 are par 4(from the longs).
referring to what Larry B. Whitson (sorry about the B. LW, its an inside joke w/ me and Cuttaz) said about High Point havn' some tough par 3s. Kinston has its far share of those as well.
Hole# 4
Hole#8
Hole#9 (OG is right about this being a tuff hole)
Hole#15
Hole#16
Hole#18
IMHO that is. For me there are other holes at Kinston that are tuff Par 3s, but we wont talk about that right now :D.

#9.. WTF??

thats reachable with a strong sidearm... just because you 4 it often doesn't make it a par 4



Uh actually there yahnni I rarely 4 it. Sure it CAN be reached but nobody does. 18 at OHO can be reached with a "strong" backhand but everyone considers it a par 4. I have a strong side arm and I dont even go for it. Its got too low of a ceiling and no skip on the grass. Its and easy sidearm deuce for me from the short. JMI has one of the best sidearms I've seen. I bet he didnt deuce it from the longs did you Cuttaz?

Has anyone deuced 9 from the longs or seen it deuced? I would like to know. I sure haven't and I'll bet you haven't either Jeffy. Oh and what did you shoot at the monthly..I dont remember? 70? LOL

At High Point how does a 40 from the Long tees (LL) compare to a 44 from the Ludicrous tees (Schweb)? I guess a hole by hole comparison would be really helpful.

i have got in twice( played the course about 10 times).
the last 2 touney's there i started on that hole and was not warm, so i didn't even get it over the creek.

At High Point how does a 40 from the Long tees (LL) compare to a 44 from the Ludicrous tees (Schweb)? I guess a hole by hole comparison would be really helpful.



Schweb shot that from the Bludes. There were about 9? harder pads he played from. The rest were the same.

Uh actually there yahnni I rarely 4 it. Sure it CAN be reached but nobody does.

apparently someone does

18 at OHO can be reached with a "strong" backhand but everyone considers it a par 4.


do people consider the short a par 4? (i don't) the blue is 450 and the lude is 580, with a significant uphill grade. not many ams reaching that. ams can definitely deuce hole 9, and 3 it from a terrible drive. try shanking hole 18 and getting a 3.

I sure haven't and I'll bet you haven't either Jeffy


i think its common knowledge that i have no sidearm. i will eventually deuce it with a backhand.

Oh and what did you shoot at the monthly..I dont remember? 70? LOL

i believe it was a hot 62/62. i don't play well in monthlies. how did you shoot in the last pdga? that sunday was smoking. you beat me at crosstown, cherish it. like i told you, you won't beat me at another pdga event this year, maybe never.

like i told you, you won't beat me at another pdga event this year, maybe never.



Wanna put money on that?

-Team AirBall

Wanna put money on that?

you know im always down with $$$$. i think we'll have to bet 'this year' instead of 'never' for obvious reasons. name the $$$$

-Team AirBall

interesting, i don't remember you in the playoff for some reason. at least i got the chance

We'll since I won the ace pool last night I guess I got a Benjamin I can put on it.

We'll since I won the ace pool last night I guess I got a Benjamin I can put on it.

DONE

and you only won the ace pool because me and jmi got jued

At High Point, a 44 from the ludes is better than a 40 from the blues in my opinon, although both a smokin' rounds. And a deuce on #18 there from the white or blue pad is very, very good.

Watch out for Yahnii. He does'nt like to pay up, sorry excuse after sorry excuse. It's all good, I've got ya 3-1 head to head this year.

don't disparage my good name a-dubbs, that was an unfortunate circumstance. and, i believe its 2-1 in pdgas, so we'll keep it like that

Scwebs 2001- OHO round of 44 was greatand only rated 1061 it may should have been rated higher. 2003 - LL played a harder set of ludes and at a 48 =1044. Ludes- concrete 1,3,4,6,7,13,14,16,17 this was all played in 2001, but in 2003 we added tee mats for 8, played 9 to 18 basket around the corner, 10,11,12, were mats and 18 was extended 90 feet up the hill. there is no 2, or 5 for safety reasons but hopefully the grounds crew will have 15 playable by july. a three on 15 is two controlled drives.

i believe its 2-1 in pdgas, so we'll keep it like that



Dogwood, Azalea to your Tarheel and CPWO. Isn't that 2-2???

Dogwood, Azalea to your Tarheel and CPWO. Isn't that 2-2???


really? what place did a-dubbs get at Tarheel?

n/m :D

That lude #15 at High point is NUTS.

Not sure the par for Lude #16, but oh, what a joy to see Billy Crump ACE it with a ce teebird during warm up before Mooky's Cup Not Yours Pro Tourney 2004.

:cool:

High Point:
15 Lude lists at 425'. Is it par 4?
16 Lude lists at 265'

Okay, I'll be the first to pose the question, where does KC's 2nd round at Zebulon yesterday rank ? I see it's rated a 1074, all I can say is "Wow".

actually it was at Cedar,

it was a -12 (which ties the course record), in the rain, with a bogey - amazing

He shot 19 on the front (missed 5)

btw -

that is offically my thought on the best round ever shot in NC

tieing a course record, in rain, with a bogey - on a course that was grown up - after shooting a un-Climo like 53 the first round

that guy is AMAZING

J. Lights 45 today during the 4th round didnt get talked about too much. That was pretty darn good too. Lowest round of the day from the open field. Rated 1060. :p

That Guy owes me 5 bucks!

He must have been in the group when you aced. BTW, congrats on some good shooting this weekend!

and you will get your 5 bones either by way of paw paw or by way of the usdgc. i will get you your money.

wow just saw this thread was being viewed by Halton.

I know some non-solid pro that shot a course 38 at Wellspring this summer and should be included in the mix of top rounds in NC history.

And there was finally a 54 at the Castle this year.

wow just saw this thread was being viewed by Halton.

I know some non-solid pro that shot a course 38 at Wellspring this summer and should be included in the mix of top rounds in NC history.

And there was finally a 54 at the Castle this year.



<font color="green"> Riddle me this:
How much further down the road of self-glorification do you have to walk before you get hit by a BIG truck?
I won't bother honking the horn either...</font>

that post was funny
is it a personal attack if I find that post funny?

In eastern NC, you better watch out for the PIG trucks!!!

EABN

I thought it was creepy that MTL was stalking Halton.

it was in the who is online section and I saw he was reading this thread

I've played both courses, and there is no way a 40 on OHO blue is better - that 40 is still an amazing record that will not be beaten, but neither will the 47



I was wrong!!!

Schwebby got the 47 beat this year http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen..._ratings=1#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6842&amp;year=2007&amp;incl ude_ratings=1#Open)

it was in the who is online section and I saw he was reading this thread



Why did you just admit to stalking Halton? It's that lefty ninja with glove thing that gets you going about him I bet! :D

I've played both courses, and there is no way a 40 on OHO blue is better - that 40 is still an amazing record that will not be beaten, but neither will the 47



I was wrong!!!

Schwebby got the 47 beat this year http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournamen..._ratings=1#Open (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=6842&amp;year=2007&amp;incl ude_ratings=1#Open)

I could have told U that.