Jan 13 2014, 02:55 PM
I should probably address this to the Masters and beyond because I am sure at least some of them have had to deal with this.... I love the game and get out whenever I can no matter the season. Like most players I'm trying to work on technique to get better as time goes by. What I am dealing with is a bad right knee. I know that to throw effectively weight has to be shifted to the right side for a RHBH player. Trouble is I can't get a full weight shift to the right side any more. Hate to ask this as I feel it is a compromise....but is there any "compensating" techniques I could use to offset this a little? So far I've been trying more understable discs/hyzer flips to get the discs moving more right for me. It is helping but only to a point. I have also worked very hard on keeping the nose down on my discs but without a full weight shift this is problematic and have been stalling a fair number of throws.
Any help would be appreciated!
Jan 14 2014, 01:33 PM
Try throwing sidearm. That would put more weight on the left knee.
Jan 15 2014, 01:54 PM
center of balance.
your gonna have to compromise the actual/natural/recommended throwing technique to accomplish what you want to do, that is alleviate the problem with your right knee.
so center of balance...... correct form would have you bring your center of balance from a 90/10 center of balance, (the 90 on your left leg) through the throwing motion to have your center of balance 20/80,or even 0/100 weight shift to your right leg right after you release the disc. so your center of balance is shifting through the throwing motion, does this make sense to you?
if it does, then what you have to try to do is ensure youve released the disc when your weight shift/centert of balance is 60/40 to 50/50 through the throwing motion. it will feel very awkward because you will be basically throwing off your back leg (left) before the follow through.
this will make it easier to compensate for your right leg because youve already released the disc and you can favor your right leg as it were. its a more upright throwing motion, emphasizing the hips, shoulder and arm.
your can start practicing by throwing flat footed, focusing on your center of balance.... where is it in the course of your throwing motion..... before during and after....... took me a year to get it down..... but i had the same problem and you can either start throwing left handed, or look for compromising your normal technique.
welcome to the old mans club..... :).
Jan 15 2014, 04:20 PM
Actually, this does make quite a bit of sense and I like the concept of a dynamic (shifting) center of balance. For discussion's sake I'll refer to it as a CG but in a different sense. I can give that a try but I'm thinking I'll really have to guard a too early release or everything will go dead left. I may actually have to move to the right just a little to compensate for this which means I'll be throwing a little more open than I am used to. Good thing it's winter and I can practice this!
Definitely a member of the old man's club but definitely NOT even close to throwing in the towel :D
Jan 16 2014, 06:57 PM
yeah ill be throwing discs til i die.....i was just thinking, if you can find video of older throwers somewhere, like peter shive...... that might be something that may help.....usually technique is dominant over power issues at advanced aged throwers and may show you a way to compensate for your knee.
Jan 19 2014, 07:04 AM
Do any of these help or all of them? Planting the final step with the toes pointed less away from the target than you are used to up to about only 20 degrees left of the target, slower steps, shorter steps, lightest possible discs=air inside them down to 110 grams up to say 130s.
Jan 19 2014, 02:20 PM
These are all great ideas! Already started paring down my discs to a bit lighter weights and a tad understable. I'll definitely try positioning my plant foot a little more towards the target as you suggest. Doing so should eliminate some of the torque I'm experiencing now.