pterodactyl
Oct 01 2013, 01:26 PM
So, who, beside Schwebby, qualified yesterday?
cgkdisc
Oct 02 2013, 10:38 AM
The SSA for official ratings for both Open and Performance Flights will likely be produced by only using the average of Open Flight scores in R1 thru R3. So unofficial ratings displayed for Performance Flight during the event could be inflated compared to what they may become officially based on what we've seen in the past two USDGC events. We'll see how it goes with the new course rules this year.
pterodactyl
Oct 02 2013, 12:20 PM
What are the new rules for this year, Chuckie?
And who were the qualifiers from Monday?
Anybody?
cgkdisc
Oct 02 2013, 04:19 PM
Check out the USDGC site for those answers. http://www.usdgc.com/
Gotta read the Caddybook for the rules. Qualifiers were McCabe, Schwebbie, Chandler Fry, Michael Johansen and Ray Oberley Jr (who apparently had to DNF today, hurt hand last night).
pterodactyl
Oct 02 2013, 05:15 PM
Thanks CGK
pterodactyl
Oct 02 2013, 05:17 PM
I've noticed a few sloppy tap-ins where players are making contact with the basket before they release their discs. One guy wasn't anywhere near his mark when he putted out on the bamboo clown's mouth hole. I wanna see some calls.
jconnell
Oct 02 2013, 07:51 PM
I've noticed a few sloppy tap-ins where players are making contact with the basket before they release their discs. One guy wasn't anywhere near his mark when he putted out on the bamboo clown's mouth hole. I wanna see some calls.
Contact with the basket before release is not against the rules.
The guy putting nowhere near his mark (Adam Olsen, hole 7, around 1:01 on round 1's live coverage) was blatantly illegal. One of those types of putts that most people shrug off as no big deal but really shouldn't be allowed to stand in an event of this magnitude.
pterodactyl
Oct 03 2013, 01:58 PM
Contact with the basket before release is not against the rules.
I don't see how this could be legal. It's no different than anchoring yourself to a tree in front of you to avoid a foot fault. I've always felt that the disc should be propelled and not slam dunked. I didn't think it was legal to touch anything in front of your lie.
jconnell
Oct 03 2013, 04:54 PM
Contact with the basket before release is not against the rules.
I don't see how this could be legal. It's no different than anchoring yourself to a tree in front of you to avoid a foot fault. I've always felt that the disc should be propelled and not slam dunked. I didn't think it was legal to touch anything in front of your lie.
Key word is "before". You can contact anything in front of you before the release. There are really no rules that govern what you can and can't do before release. The only thing that matters is where your contact is at the time of release (and on putts inside 10m, after release).
Reaching into the cylinder and dropping the disc in or "dunking" it is perfectly legal.
TexBook
Oct 04 2013, 01:45 AM
This "touching" issue always makes for good banter. This is a bit of thread drift, but I don't post much so anyway I think 2 rules apply:
803.01 Obstacles And Relief
Obstacles to a Stance or Throwing Motion: With the exception of casual obstacles to a stance as described below, a player is not allowed to move any obstacle on the course.
However,
802.04 Throwing from a Stance
A player must choose the stance that will result in the least movement of any part of any obstacle that is a permanent or integral part of the course. Once a legal stance is taken, the player may not move an obstacle in any way in order to make room for a throwing motion." It is legal for a player's throwing motion to cause incidental movement of an obstacle."
So, if your throwing arm hits a tall stalk of grass or smacks a tree trunk in front of your lie any time during your throw, you are not penalized under the rules (but you may be injured).
You can't "move" (as in move its position) an obstacle in front of your lie. You can't have "supporting point contact" in front of your lie before release. But your "throwing motion" can make contact in front of your lie at any time during the throw. At least I "think" that's how it is.
cgkdisc
Oct 04 2013, 11:44 AM
In the case of putting, you cannot get support from an object in front of your lie until after you have demonstrated balance after your release. So you can brush the basket or chains with your hand on a putt follow through but cannot grab the basket rim to seemingly get support during your follow through as in clip F-1 near the end of this demonstrating balance putting video.
http://www.pdga.com/demonstrating-balance-putting
But you can get support from the ground in front of your lie or even basket just prior to release but not during your release (see section D in above video).
pterodactyl
Oct 04 2013, 12:15 PM
No slam dunks?
cgkdisc
Oct 04 2013, 12:38 PM
Only if your lie is really close to the basket, you can slam it while not jumping. But you might risk the disc hopping back out.
pterodactyl
Oct 04 2013, 02:39 PM
I would like to see the RC take a look at slam dunks. They are a lot like double hits in ball golf, or raking the ball in the cup on short putts. If you release the disc into chains and then the disc makes contact with your (a golfer's) hand, that should be a penalty. JMO
pterodactyl
Oct 07 2013, 02:08 PM
I guess nobody calls these things. Some were so obvious.