surrealm
Feb 05 2012, 10:46 AM
hello,
question for you all, and hopefully with correct quotes and references.
hypothetical case, inspired by actual mishap during tournament
group A. 3 players
group B. 3 players
group C. 3 players
group A all tee off from incorrect tee-pad XX, and hole out on incorrect basket XX, and move on to next hole YY. and are told about it by a player from another group some time afterwards.
group B all tee of from incorrect tee-pad XX and while walking towards away disc, stumble across correct tee-pad XX, then re-tee from correct tee-pad XX, and hole out on correct basket XX. then move on to hole YY.
group C first player in group tees off from incorrect tee-pad XX, and before player 2 tees off, the mistake is spotted, and all players move on to correct tee-pad XX.
apart from possible other issues that might be in place here.. correctly sign-posted tees and pads, and player awareness, just addressing the penalties to be applied to these groups.
Am i correct in interpreting 801.04 as follows?
group A:
all players receive +2 for incorrect tee
all players receive +2 for incorrect basket
group B:
player 1 receives +2 (due to "subsequent throw" vs. practise throw")
player 2 receives +2 (due to "subsequent throw" vs. practise throw")
player 3 receives +1 (due to "subsequent throw" vs. practise throw")
where according to my interpretation, player 2 is the "subsequent throw" of player 1's throw
and player 3 is the "subsequent throw" of player 2's throw
and since away player didn't make subsequent throw yet, player 3 has not had a "subsequent throw" finalise his own throw.
i think the base question here is, is "subsequent throw" one player's OWN next throw, or is ANY subsequent throw of ANY player in that group a "subsequent throw"
group C:
player 1 receives +1 (practise throw)
player 2 nothing
player 3 nothing
question for you all, and hopefully with correct quotes and references.
hypothetical case, inspired by actual mishap during tournament
group A. 3 players
group B. 3 players
group C. 3 players
group A all tee off from incorrect tee-pad XX, and hole out on incorrect basket XX, and move on to next hole YY. and are told about it by a player from another group some time afterwards.
group B all tee of from incorrect tee-pad XX and while walking towards away disc, stumble across correct tee-pad XX, then re-tee from correct tee-pad XX, and hole out on correct basket XX. then move on to hole YY.
group C first player in group tees off from incorrect tee-pad XX, and before player 2 tees off, the mistake is spotted, and all players move on to correct tee-pad XX.
apart from possible other issues that might be in place here.. correctly sign-posted tees and pads, and player awareness, just addressing the penalties to be applied to these groups.
Am i correct in interpreting 801.04 as follows?
group A:
all players receive +2 for incorrect tee
all players receive +2 for incorrect basket
group B:
player 1 receives +2 (due to "subsequent throw" vs. practise throw")
player 2 receives +2 (due to "subsequent throw" vs. practise throw")
player 3 receives +1 (due to "subsequent throw" vs. practise throw")
where according to my interpretation, player 2 is the "subsequent throw" of player 1's throw
and player 3 is the "subsequent throw" of player 2's throw
and since away player didn't make subsequent throw yet, player 3 has not had a "subsequent throw" finalise his own throw.
i think the base question here is, is "subsequent throw" one player's OWN next throw, or is ANY subsequent throw of ANY player in that group a "subsequent throw"
group C:
player 1 receives +1 (practise throw)
player 2 nothing
player 3 nothing