vpruitt
May 19 2011, 02:23 PM
In the PDGA Competition Manual, it states that withdrawals made 7 days prior to the event shall receive a 50% refund. And TD are allowed to relax the criteria at their discretion.
I contacted the TD 11 days before the event and was told that I could not receive a refund at that point. I was wondering if the TD had to honor the PDGA Competition Manual criteria, since they are allowed to relax the criteria and not make it stricter. Also, the refund deadline was never posted on the flyer, so technically are they allowed to enforce a stricter policy without stating it on the flyer?
johnbiscoe
May 19 2011, 09:52 PM
i doubt the td is within his/her rights under ORG rules... i would also be absolutely shocked to see the ORG enforce said rules...
imo the ORG has no biz dictating such things to td's to begin with considering the marginal amount of value td's get out of sanctioning... at least insurance is still a good deal...
krazyeye
May 19 2011, 11:28 PM
How hard is it to type complete words?
PhattD
May 20 2011, 01:34 PM
How hard is it to type complete words?
nt vry
VectorInOregon
May 23 2011, 11:50 AM
i doubt the td is within his/her rights under ORG rules... i would also be absolutely shocked to see the ORG enforce said rules...
imo the ORG has no biz dictating such things to td's to begin with considering the marginal amount of value td's get out of sanctioning... at least insurance is still a good deal...
What is "ORG"?:confused:
keithjohnson
May 24 2011, 01:52 AM
Ah you youngsters - if it's not text speak , you're lost :)
ORG=Organization - as in the PDGA is an organization.
johnbiscoe
May 24 2011, 07:53 PM
How hard is it to type complete words?
i assume you mean full words such as "up yours, toolbag"?... not very difficult when you get down to it...
i prefer to refer to our (not so)illustrious players association as the "ORG" however for reasons perhaps only known to myself... continue to buzz around the hive at your will...
bgwvdave
May 27 2011, 02:00 PM
Ah you youngsters - if it's not text speak , you're lost :)
ORG=Organization - as in the PDGA is an organization.
Biscoe is such a tweener
tanner
Jul 01 2011, 04:57 PM
I was recently screwed on a $160 entry fee. I had something come up and wasn�t able to make it, told the TD on the Monday before. At one point I was getting a refund and then after the event, I wasn�t. I really do not see how my money could have been lumped into the payout when I was NOT attending the event. I used PDGA signup, so I guess maybe the TD did not get the actual money. I don�t know. I do know I will do my best to NEVER pre-register again and will absolutely NEVER use the PDGA signup if I do.
I really feel the PDGA should be making life easier on TD�s, not more difficult.
cgkdisc
Jul 01 2011, 06:01 PM
C'mon Tanner I think you do know. You asked for your refund after the published 7-day deadline for getting a refund. Within 7 days of the event, a player cannot get a refund (NT) but can get a player pack. It's my understanding that you got a player pack PLUS $50 which the TD was not obligated to provide. PDGA Signup has nothing to do with refund policies and it would have been the same if the TD had handled all pre-reg entries himself without any online pre-reg service.
tanner
Jul 01 2011, 09:20 PM
C'mon Tanner I think you do know. You asked for your refund after the published 7-day deadline for getting a refund. Within 7 days of the event, a player cannot get a refund (NT) but can get a player pack. It's my understanding that you got a player pack PLUS $50 which the TD was not obligated to provide.
Ya yaya 7 day deadline whatever. 7 days is like the 2 meter rule, arbitrary. My point is the PDGA is not helping TD's with this "policy". I did get some recovery, which I very much appreciated. I understand they didn't have to, but why not?
PDGA Signup has nothing to do with refund policies and it would have been the same if the TD had handled all pre-reg entries himself without any online pre-reg service.
After a phone call from them, :) I have a little better picture of how things work. They have zero pull or involvement, other than taking my money and giving it to the TD.
I know the TD wished he could give me a full refund, which is good enough for me, but for some reason he couldn't. I'll still play his events and hope I have some beer to give him when I see him next.
I've been supportive of the PDGA locally, but my tune is turning the same as the broken record I've been hearing for a few years now.
cgkdisc
Jul 01 2011, 10:01 PM
Ya yaya 7 day deadline whatever. 7 days is like the 2 meter rule, arbitrary. My point is the PDGA is not helping TD's with this "policy".
No, the PDGA actually helps TDs with this policy because it takes the pressure off the TD for being the "bad" guy. If you really got the straight answer from TDs, anything where the PDGA backstops something they would want to do but need to be the "nice guy," they appreciate. See, Jack gets to be the good guy and you can rant on the PDGA. You want more professionalism in the sport? Pre-registration and refund policies are part of that. Especially when they have been published long in advance.
rhett
Jul 04 2011, 11:26 AM
I swear us disc golfers are such babies about every single thing tournament related. I've been entering some running events lately and every single one of those has been "no refunds period". Once you sign up, that's it. The entries vary greatly just like disc golf tourneys. Some are $25 and some are $125+.
As an ex-TD the "no refunds" policy makes a lot of sense. It's a lot of work to put on an event, and last minute cancellations are a pain to deal with. Writing refund checks and keeping track of it all is do-able but also a PITA. It's tough enough pulling people off the wait-list and getting them all paid up.
I know stuff happens in real life, but why should the already over-worked TD have to bear the brunt of all the stuff that happens to all the other people when that TD has a lot of stuff happening already that s/he has to deal with?
tanner
Jul 05 2011, 05:17 PM
You�re right Rhett, I don�t have much to complain about. It just didn�t seem like a tough thing to give a refund�it was really easy to give the money, but getting it back was impossible for whatever reason.
I played a B-tier this weekend that seemed to be missing the one thing that makes it different than a C-tier... :p
It�s all good at this point, I�m over it. Lesson learned. All I can do is laugh and hope I�m smarter/luckier next time.
rhett
Jul 05 2011, 07:55 PM
I wasn't intending to pick on you, Tanner, so sorry about my tone on that post. :) My short lived return to this message board already has me frustrated. I guess I know how to get over that...
pterodactyl
Jul 05 2011, 10:13 PM
What a cyber-bully, Rhett!!! (joking!) :)
tanner
Jul 06 2011, 09:46 AM
I wasn't intending to pick on you, Tanner, so sorry about my tone on that post. :) My short lived return to this message board already has me frustrated. I guess I know how to get over that...
No, you're tone was fine...I really don't have to be here complaining. it's been a pile up of things that lead me to posting a rant...I'm going back to my self imposed DG message board ban!