lissyssil
Apr 15 2011, 04:10 PM
Is there a hole in the rulebook here? I know I'm being obtuse, but we recently had a discussion about this on the course, not because it happened, but because we like to argue.
Adam, Barry, Carlo and Dean are on a card together. The tee order on a short par 3 is A, B, C, D.
Adam is a lucky guy, and cans an ace with his drive. Barry plays to within feet of the basket, Carlo does the same as Barry, and then Dean throws his drive out, and, lo and behold, it's in the basket for another ace.
The foursome leaves the tee box, walks up to the green, and notices that Dean's drive (and ace) is lying directly on top of Adam's ace, and is unsupported by the chains or interior surface of the basket.
Now, we all know that Adam should have cleared the basket of his disc before anyone else threw, but we also all know that this rarely happens in real play.
Here's the question: Did Dean's ace count? Has he holed out? By literal interpretation of the rules for holing out:
B. Disc Entrapment Devices: In order to hole out, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the chains and/or the inner cylinder (bottom and inside wall) of the tray. It may be additionally supported by the pole. A disc observed by two or more players of the group or an official to have entered the target below the top of the tray or above the bottom of the chain support is not holed out.
Dean's disc is not supported by the chains and/or the inner cylinder (bottom and inside wall) of the tray. It is, instead, supported by Adam's disc.
What rulings would you apply, and CGKDisc, if you could provide an interpretation, that would be great.
Adam, Barry, Carlo and Dean are on a card together. The tee order on a short par 3 is A, B, C, D.
Adam is a lucky guy, and cans an ace with his drive. Barry plays to within feet of the basket, Carlo does the same as Barry, and then Dean throws his drive out, and, lo and behold, it's in the basket for another ace.
The foursome leaves the tee box, walks up to the green, and notices that Dean's drive (and ace) is lying directly on top of Adam's ace, and is unsupported by the chains or interior surface of the basket.
Now, we all know that Adam should have cleared the basket of his disc before anyone else threw, but we also all know that this rarely happens in real play.
Here's the question: Did Dean's ace count? Has he holed out? By literal interpretation of the rules for holing out:
B. Disc Entrapment Devices: In order to hole out, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the chains and/or the inner cylinder (bottom and inside wall) of the tray. It may be additionally supported by the pole. A disc observed by two or more players of the group or an official to have entered the target below the top of the tray or above the bottom of the chain support is not holed out.
Dean's disc is not supported by the chains and/or the inner cylinder (bottom and inside wall) of the tray. It is, instead, supported by Adam's disc.
What rulings would you apply, and CGKDisc, if you could provide an interpretation, that would be great.