Without getting into the course design issues or whether or not you like it how would you rule this?

Some courses have holes that are mounted higher than usual. In some cases the top of the basket is greater than 2 meters above the playing surface. Some are on tall poles, some on a rock structure, some hanging baskets.

Say a disc comes to rest on top of the basket. If the 2 meter penalty is in effect would you incur a 2 meter penalty for a DROT (disc resting on top)?

I could see if the basket was mounted on a rock structure that could be called the playing surface but what if the basket was hanging or on a tall pole?

How was this dealt with at the High Bridge worlds "tree hole"?

Without getting into the course design issues or whether or not you like it how would you rule this?

Some courses have holes that are mounted higher than usual. In some cases the top of the basket is greater than 2 meters above the playing surface. Some are on tall poles, some on a rock structure, some hanging baskets.

Say a disc comes to rest on top of the basket. If the 2 meter penalty is in effect would you incur a 2 meter penalty for a DROT (disc resting on top)?

I could see if the basket was mounted on a rock structure that could be called the playing surface but what if the basket was hanging or on a tall pole?

How was this dealt with at the High Bridge worlds "tree hole"?

Is the basket itself a playing surface?

If the disc lands on top of it, do you climb up on top to play, or put the disc on the ground below to putt out?

Put a cone on top of the bastket preventing DROTs and problem is solved.

OK, I kid, but in reality, I would say that the sight where the bottom of the pole is located is the actual playing surface and your drot would not be an OB. I would rule no problem on a hanging basket too. Intuitively, the basket should not be any part OB.

No 2-meter penalty at Highbridge Pro Worlds except on one hole, NOT the triple tree basket hole.

If a TD states that the 2-meter penalty is in effect and there happens to be a basket suspended high enough on a pole, then a DROT would get the 2-meter penalty by default if the TD did not specifically exclude DROTs on that basket. Many times elevated baskets still have something that could be considered a "playing surface" directly under the basket such as rocks or pedestal of some sort. So the top of the basket would not be more than 2 meters higher on those placements.

The basket itself isn't considered playing surface?

No. A playing surface is typically the ground or some other surface that one walks on.

DROTs should count! Change the wording of the rule so the the top of the basket is looked at the sme as the bottom of the basket. Which shot was more accurate? The DROT or the wedgie? Of course it is the DROT, but the wedgie is the only one of the two that gets counted as "holed-out". C'mon people! This is the worst rule in the book IMO.

I doubt DROTs will ever be allowed. If anything, the wedgie rule might be tweaked so certain ones don't count. If DROTs are allowed, then basket manufacturers will adjust their designs to add rims going up from the chain support so there's the equivalent of another basket on top of the chains.

I doubt DROTs will ever be allowed. If anything, the wedgie rule might be tweaked so certain ones don't count. If DROTs are allowed, then basket manufacturers will adjust their designs to add rims going up from the chain support so there's the equivalent of another basket on top of the chains.

The tray is the designated ending point for the hole. The chains are the "deflection device" designed to send the disc into the basket. Sometimes the disc gets caught in the chains and doesn't fall into the basket so that needs to be counted for that reason. Nothing else should count.

Wedgies are a different matter. A wedgie still ends up caught be the tray, which is where it was supposed to be, if not exactly how it was supposed to be. Other shots that end up in the tray can get there also by means that are less than perfect. Macs off of trees, skips, rollers that hit roots and end up in the tray. Why single out the wedgie? Sure it's lucky, but so are all the others that end up in the tray, but weren't exactly skillful.

Not allowing wedgies introduces a necessity to differentiate between non seen "bad" and "good" wedgies. This seems unnecessary to me.

On the other hand, allowing wedgies has nothing to do with drots. The chain holder isn't even the deflection device, let alone the designated end of the hole...the tray.

Um also two meters and OB are two different things.