I am Sheri from Buffalo and I recently played in the Memorial and won my division. I was the only person from NY in the Am's and I was without my pile of boys that are usually at my beck and call. I didn't have anyone to coddle me and tell me that everything is gonna be alright and as long as you have fun it is okay....And the most amazing thing happened. I kicked ***. I played very very well during a tournament. I became the competetive person that had been silenced. Playing against the boys on a regular basis has nipped my competetive edge right off.

I have a renewed perspective of my game. I can do anything. I can throw a disc. It isn't rocket science. I really believe that good men/boys have an inherent need to help females. Take care of that damsel in distress. Well, I decided today that I'm no damsel. I have also decided to cause distress.....in the boys who are gonna have their asses handed to them by me.

Aroouughh!

Way to play Sheri!! Good to see you out there standing on your own two feet! Hope this new found power brings you down to Texas next month for the Texas Women's Championship. There will be boyz to escort & help, but don't let that hold you back. With or without the boyz being present, you can be all the competator you want. Fun is important - but if you're not in it to compete, why are you paying money to play? You can have a casual fun round for free anytime - with the guys or the gals. The boyz aren't holding you back from being competative. You can be that same strong player with them there to support you too.

See you in the fairway! (ps - miss you crazy Sheri)

Hope you will still allow us boys to buy you a beer, carry your bag, massage your shoulders, and occasionally slavishly huddle at your feet, hoping for a few cells of awesomeness to slough off of your magnificent being. Please don't completely shut the door to male worshipers at the temple of Sheri! Please!

BTW - Congrats on the great shootin':D

Of course I want the attention and beer. That might be why I started golfing in the first place. ;) But it such a bigger revelation. It completely illustrates the difference between boys and girls. Its beautiful. Boys wanna cover up the bad feelings that girls will supposedly have when we don't win by minimizing the importance of the competetion. Girls have been raised from tiny pig tails to accept and even expect a boy to fix stuff up....BUT- girls can take the disappointment. We can hang. Just for the chance of the ten minutes that it takes to walk up to the stage at flickas and get that big *** trophy with a 1 on it. Flipping brillant.

The Onslow Flying Disc Assoc. looks forward to you competing at the 2010 USWDGC. Let us know if we can help you in anyway.

Trig out
www.onslowfda.com

I would love too. That would be WAY cool. Depends when it is. I have my hands full running The Beachwood Classic- A Disc Golf Extravaganza in July and I've been known to lurk in the Masschuettes woods come August.

Sheri -

Here is the thread.... I hope...

I bet being the 2010 United States Womens (Insert Division here) Champion would have a cool ring in front of any Ladies name when they get introduced at their local tournies...

http://www.pdga.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=33355

Trig out

hell yes- trig. Lala- I so miss you too. It has been too long between lala sightings. I'm starting to think that it is a government conspiracy. Possible cover up.

Temple of Sheri......I like that. probably too much

Congrats girl!!!! Its an awesome feeling, don't lose it.


Happy Golfin'

audi


NC would love to have you play the USWDGC!!!!

That whole USWDGC sounds good to me. I'm gonna truly try to get my ducks in a row to come and play. Problem is.....i gotta a lot of unruly ducks. darn water fowl.

If you can make it to AZ from NY, you can make it to NC from NY. The USWDGC is going to be a lot of fun. I promise.

I didn't have anyone to coddle me and tell me that everything is gonna be alright and as long as you have fun it is okay....And the most amazing thing happened. I kicked ***. I played very very well during a tournament. I became the competetive person that had been silenced. Playing against the boys on a regular basis has nipped my competetive edge right off.

I am Marie from Norman, OK, and I have to say that I noticed the same thing! Actually, after having been taught by boys and annoyed by boys ("Why did you choose that disc? You should have thrown this one!" or "It's okay. Don't worry, you get two strokes because you're a girl") I finally gathered a couple of the other DG wives/girlfriends and we started a ladies' group all our own with the slogan "No icky boys!!" Lol! And I have found that I never get annoyed with the girls because they play and compete in the same manner I do. And, thus far anyway, they have never found my lack of a penis to be a handicap worthy or extra strokes for nothing!

And the best part is, I am good!! I really enjoy myself, I'm relaxed, and I can actually play this game! I'm not as good as you are yet, Sheri, but I'll get there if I keep practicing either alone or with my girls! Don't get me wrong, I love my boys, but when I play with them now, I don't even really consider it practice. I'm just there for the camaraderie and that's all. When I practice new shots or get more power or better snap, I stay away from them for awhile and just let myself enjoy it without the condescension and frustrating (though well-intended) "coddling".

I'm glad you kicked *** at your tournament! Keep kicking ***! And maybe you should consider getting a ladies' group together in your area to play with regularly, so you can keep the good mojo going!

Thanks Marie your sweet. Actually, I have a girls group in Buffalo. We are the Rocket Dawg Ridge Raiders and I'm building my divison one pony tail at a time. I helped make the NY State Intermediate champion last year, Diesel Dawg (her mama calls her Heather Gauda). It is funny. My life revolves around three things. Kid, Hound dogs, and disc golf- Perfect! I have actually had to start catergorizing my boys. I have a list of boys that I'm not gonna hang with until after my round. It really isn't an annoyance.......or a bother......it is more keeping my focus on MY game and not theirs. Ironically, some of my best friends, guys that I see as my baby brothers made the 'do not hang till later' list. A girl has got to do what a girl has got to do.

Marie- to you ever play for money? I take strokes when I'm playing for money and I never thought twice about it. I guess because we use strokes to even out Open and Am players playing against each other regardless if it is a boy or a girl. Curious. I wonder if that affects my game as well.

I wouldn't give Sheri strokes in a cash game. She'd probably beat me straight up. LOL

I know she would have beat me at Emerald Isle yesterday...

Carl- you can consider yourself the catalyst of my epiphany. I am focusing the next 5 months on taking cash at the Vibram. I'm gonna practise my putting daily and hang with positive non judgmental peeps....They will never see me coming. Stealth mode as the Vegas people say. cree creep creep CASH.

they have never found my lack of a penis...

we're gonna need proof.

Gregory Lane- "unclemercy"- Please explain to me why that is funny. I have an amazing sense of humor and I just don't get it. So, please share the punch line.

are you trying to 5861 brian j. graham me, 26908 sheri lynn jazembak?

um don't understand that either. I guess you are a comedian in your own mind.

we're gonna need proof.

I don't get it either. I've never seen having one as being a benefit to playing the game of disc golf...always have to make sure your boxers don't ride up when you putt.

Sheri - just keep going out there and playing focused like you did when we were in AZ. Keep working hard on your game cause you are on the upswing. Don't worry so much about your boys holding you back, nothing can hold you back if you commit yourself to it and keep getting better. Save your competitive desires for when you play with the women and enjoy the fun and camraderie when you are playing with the guys. And above all, keep having fun...

Word- baby boy.

Marie- to you ever play for money? I take strokes when I'm playing for money and I never thought twice about it. I guess because we use strokes to even out Open and Am players playing against each other regardless if it is a boy or a girl. Curious. I wonder if that affects my game as well.

Nah, if the boys are playing for money, I go play by myself. They give me strokes in casual rounds, which I guess is what irks me. It's supposed to be for fun and instead it turns into this hierarchical ultra-competitive ordeal. I have one group of boys that I play with regularly. They are patterned: for the first three holes or so they are all over my form, my snap, my disc choice. After the first three, they realize they've given me enough advice for a lifetime and just let me play! Lol!
To me, the thing with the strokes is that it starts you out with the mindset that not only are you not very good, you suck so badly that the benevolent men around you need to bolster your score to even allow you to compete. Does that make sense? So you start off having to admit that you're terrible... and why? I'm not terrible. No, I don't have the arm the guys have or the experience, but I'm good for my size and experience, you know?
I don't know. It doesn't stop me from playing, but it definitely affects my game.

The boys i play with wouldn't dare give me strokes to play for fun. Sorry but I think that is stupid because it is pointless. But, I have to admit I am a gambler and a tad mouthy when in my comfort zone. I will always throw $5.00 down regardless of who I'm playing but I'm never the one who suggests it to begin with either. And putting games....how much money you got baby boy. The trials and tribulations of being a chick.

I am terrible about giving my wife advice. We did strokes for awhile. We have the most fun when we play doubles and aren't teamed together. Putting games? Forget it, she owns me.

Women can not be taught by their significant others. They can be taught by anybody else BUT their significant others. Rule 1 of building chick disc golfers.

Amen! Can't imagine anything soooooooooooo painful! ;)

Women can not be taught by their significant others. They can be taught by anybody else BUT their significant others. Rule 1 of building chick disc golfers.

See now I was taught by my fiancee' and it was great in the beginning, but we now believe ( and HE will tell ANY man), you can show her the basics but after that leave her alone/ let other women play with her. He told me he couldn't help it. He wanted soo much to help me when I struggled, but I am VERY independent. Once he got that it was awesome.

For the men, you will notice even though we may not be able to drive that five hundo in distance, for women the short game is where it's at.

Happy Golfin'


audi

Women can not be taught by their significant others. They can be taught by anybody else BUT their significant others. Rule 1 of building chick disc golfers.

My husband and my doubles partner (who has been playing disc golf since the mid '80's) both tried (and still try) to teach me how to play. They have sort of gotten it through their heads that I'm not going to listen to them. I will watch what they do and see if it works for me later - but I won't do what they suggest during a round. Makes them mad, it does. I try to stay in my comfort zone during a round as much as possible. I have to say that I have learned more from the limited number of times I have actually played with other women than I do playing all the time with the guys. Unfortunate for me, there are no other women in my town who play.

She gets it. Mark is my best golf friend. We hang out basically daily. Play many many rounds. I feed him dinner and if need be he watches the boy. I love him. I trust him. He is my cousin. But, would I believe him.

Mark: "Sheri- you need to throw a mid range. You can't do everything with a valkie. Even if it is pink." "Sheri- Why are you using that darn flick. You can get so much more distance with a wraith... just throw it right."

He was right. The flick has been gone for three weeks and I have only missed it once. My D....amazing.

After rounds with buzz, kite, drone, mid range everything.....Sheri totally digs the Wasp. Throw it a little right and it slides right toward the basket.


Boys can teach girls....when we are ready to learn.

Women can not be taught by their significant others. They can be taught by anybody else BUT their significant others.

I have to disagree! My husband has taught me everything I know, except how to throw hard. Which I am showing him now. He is an excellent teacher, just a little harder on me than others, which is good in my opinion. There are not many girls down here that play so I play mostly with the boys and trust me, they will chew you out for throwing the wrong disc in the wrong wind, which I believe helps. I don't want to be treated any differently at all. Its all about the drive to get the student to fully push themselves.
;P

This is a funny topic. I guess I never deal with this situation because the women I play with are women like Brittany Breed and Emily Hardy. They would be insulted if I tried to give them strokes OR advice, and they both are capable of beating me on any given day.

I try to treat women no different then men when I am teaching. I usually will point out to someone that I can help them with their game, then the ball is in their court in as far as asking me for advice. People don't always like to be told how to throw; they have to realize that they need the adjustment on their own before they're ready to learn what you have to teach.

I do see how most guys tend to barrage women with tips and advice and you can usually tell that they just want to play like anyone else. Must be annoying, but most guys are good intentioned about it and just don't realize that you're not listening and wish they would shut up.

Wasps are nice Sheri...but don't ditch that buzzz...I eventually ditched my wasp for a champ thrower roc. I have added a wraith, an eagle, and a more stable teebird in recent days. My bag that was at 12 discs for Memorial has now ballooned to like 16. It ain't so much about the disc for me, it's what you can make it do. Anything that you wanted those other midranges to do for you, you can probably do with one disc.

Jax- you are a bigger women then 98% of us. I have NEVER been able to take direction from a man that I am romantically involved with. It messes with the balance of the relationship. It adds a new element that I cannot take. It has nothing to do with golf specific....more to do with the whole big power struggle between the sexes.

Jax is a bigger man than most guys. She is alot of personality in a tiny package.

Jax- you are a bigger women then 98% of us. I have NEVER been able to take direction from a man that I am romantically involved with. It messes with the balance of the relationship. It adds a new element that I cannot take. It has nothing to do with golf specific....more to do with the whole big power struggle between the sexes. Sheri, I agree. Mark (my other half) and I have had some arguments about his well intentioned help and my lack of a desire to listen to him. It doesn't make for a good night's rest when you're mad at the one you love over something like how to throw that tee-bird or which shot would be the best choice for your lie! He usually tries to play on a separate card entirely when we play casually so those things don't happen as often - I have to say that I like not being on his card because I can relax and play my game without worrying about us getting into an argument about the sport we both love.

Yes, guys, you have been playing longer. Yes, I am a woman and pretty new to the game. But no, I dont want your constant tips when I have most of it figured out already. If I want your advice, I'll be the first to ask for it! No, I don't need someone to carry my bag for me or give me a handicap just because I'm a woman and NO!!! I don't want to throw from the girly tees!

"and NO!!! I don't want to throw from the girly tees!"

Amen sister. :P

Jax is a bigger man than most guys. She is alot of personality in a tiny package.

Dynamite comes in a small package!

Can't wait to see all you girls at TWC!!!

Thinking back through the years, I remember why my man doesn't play disc golf. :rolleyes:

Advice from men can come at the strangest times! :eek: ;) :p LOL

"and NO!!! I don't want to throw from the girly tees!"

Amen sister. :P

Next you ladies will want to Drive Motorized Carriages and Vote to!!!

Trig (I am so Kidding ladies... Hope ya'll can come to the 2010 USWDGC in Jax NC) out

I always vote for golf carts. They are fun. They provide shade & a beverage holder. The bathroom is never too far away.

And hell yes! This masters chickie LOVES when you carry her bag. I have no problem with that at all. It does not diminish my golfhood. In fact, while your at it, set up the tent and the portable basket, AND open my beer please.

As far as tees- Tell me where to stand and I'll throw the *****.

Carl- so funny- I get out to the course and look in my bag and Mark put the Buzz back in. Do guys share a brain or what?

LOL Sheri...It's not that we share a brain, it's that great minds think alike...

They are two different discs...I think you could find a use for both, but go with what works for ya. Once you figure it out the buzzz will just go flat for ya; you're gonna have to throw the wasp super hard for it to go flat, it should be a nice controllable hyzer mid for you. Two different discs, entirely, but both useful.

That being said, I don't think I would put it back in the bag for you if you took it out...if you don't see the need for it, what would be the point? You have to understand why it is useful before what i'm talking about is going to make sense.

I am gonna break out a lighter buzz.......i think that the ones I have are too heavy. And I will let you know. I'm heading to Dayton, Ohio tomorrow morning. I'm gonna play in this gem city challenge who ha. It appears that this course is going to need both my wasp and buzz. I will do a few practice rounds with the buzz....if I dig it then I'll use it in the show. If not, I'll take it to the ridge and beat the stuffings out of it. Sometimes trees do the trick. Mark had to explain to me a bunch of times WHY this wasp is a good hyzer mid but I think I got it now. It is a hard concept for me to grasp for some reason. I'm completely convinced I'll have the mid range issue wrapped up by the end of April.

fine- both you and mark are right. 167 pro d it is.

Hopefully in time for the Ironwood Open Sherri!!!! I hope that you are coming to play? We already have 4 Pro Women that I know of playing. We would love to have you.

No Ironwood for me. :(. Sheri's only job right now is waiting tables on Sundays. Two day events are probably out of the question. (Except beachwood & can am cup & hopefully the Vibram- if I make it in & this womens who ha in carolina is looking very tempting.) Maybe next year. (Indiana is a slight possibility)

Hey A- Slight turned into definite. I'll see you at College Lodge.

okay- the mid range sitch is taken care of and nobody else has come up with something to say. And Trig as had nothing to read for days...

The Hyzer dilemma- I do not throw a hyzer shot. I am a right handed freak that can't hyzer. Mark thinks that when I started playing my arm speed was so bad that my frisbee did what frisbees do and fell left when it was done. THEN, come to find out I only threw super stable discs and released on an anhyzer to get D.

So, I have understable & overstable discs in my bag and I am (well mostly Mark) correcting my problem.


Why does she share? Cuz if it happened to me....it can happen to you. :)
How are you releasing that beeitch and have you heard of a Pro Katanna?

Sheri, you know I would never tell you what to throw. With that in mind, this is what I have to offer on the topic.

I think it is very important to learn how to manipulate all the discs you carry in your bag. For example, my bag is filled with discs that I can throw in different ways and not locked in on one shot. For example, my teebird, I can throw any shot with. I can throw it spike hyzer, I can throw it hyzer, I can throw it straight and flat, I can throw an annie flex with it and I can throw a full on anhyzer with. I'm probably forgetting uses as well (roller, skip shot).

In other words, take your favorite discs, and learn how to throw them all different ways. It will be easiest for you to add the variety you are seeking by learning with the discs you are most comfortable with. Mastering that hyzer is only the beginning, trust me...

Mark and I have been standing at point A and throwing all my discs to point B (hyzer), point C (annie), point D (circus shot to keep my attention- off the roof, threw the tunnel, nothing but basket.). I think I'm already doing that. Cool. Finally, I'm half a step ahead. Just wait Carl. I gotta coach and nothing but time....Sheri is gonna get scary good. :))

Sounds good Sheri. The more you know, the better you throw. Keep working hard and have faith and confidence in your abilities and your coach.

By the way, I won my division by 7 strokes this weekend, and would have won advanced by 3. My rounds may have been close to thousand rated, both of them. Woohoo Beanie!

SWEET CARL! I miss your weekly updates. My next tourney is april 24. Keep me in the loop.

Okay boys. Do us a favor. Us women disc golfers. Please do not give our baby sisters 175 beasts or 180 firebirds as gifts. Go deep......pull out a ten spot......give her a eagle or sidewinder or a valkie. How about a Stratus or a Storm?? What the heck are you thinking?


Dx Wolf & soft challenger= $20.00= ALL A FEMALE NEWBIE NEEDS FOR LIKE 2 YEARS. (and this glass ashtray and this remote....thats all I need. ha ha)

If I was trying to give discs to a woman that was just starting to play, I would give her 3 discs, a 150 teebird, a 150 buzzz or comet and a 150 challenger. That would be all she needs for a while, once those 3 discs are mastered she would be ready for more. I don't know the Wolf well enough to recommend it to anyone, but I will take Sheri's word for it if she says it's a good disc for newbie women.

I caddied for my wife at Flyboy Aviation this weekend and hopefully, besides just being a pack mule, I helped her out with some disc selection.

I have been very tentative about making suggestions because I didn't want to start a fight but amazingly she listened. I think it all started because in the 2 rounds we played before playing flyboy I would say something like "Go ahead and throw the leopard here but try the gremlin after". I know eventually we will throw down but it has been civil so far.

She just has to deal with it...I am out with rotator cuff issues so I am caddie boy for a while...I think the literal burden off her back makes her more open for suggestions.

Okay boys. Do us a favor. Us women disc golfers. Please do not give our baby sisters 175 beasts or 180 firebirds as gifts. Go deep......pull out a ten spot......give her a eagle or sidewinder or a valkie. How about a Stratus or a Storm?? What the heck are you thinking?


Dx Wolf & soft challenger= $20.00= ALL A FEMALE NEWBIE NEEDS FOR LIKE 2 YEARS. (and this glass ashtray and this remote....thats all I need. ha ha)

Of course not, we give her the ones that we can't throw. The old x-clones, firebirds and so on!

I've seen this so often. Someone's wife or girlfriend playing with discs that were given to her since he couldn't throw them. In my heavier bag days, I used to carry an old broken in light understable disc (Cheetahs and Leopards were good for this) when casual round throwing to give away to a new player. Usually with a 'here, try throwing this", then a "no, you can keep it" when they replied that it worked so much easier than the old man's cast-off Firebird. Then for fun I would scold the boy friend, telling him to go out and buy her a putter too!

Bill- you have just stumbled on a secret key to getting a woman to listen to you. Always let them do what they are gonna do......then say, wanna throw this one too? BRILLANT! Works on me everytime. Hell yes I wanna throw another disc. Hell yeah.


I luckily have TONS of discs to give away because I accept donations for my girls league. When I get those firebirds and beasts and predators....I give them to newbie boys and refuse cash. I then strongly suggest that a donation of old plastic is a great way to say thanks. They usally end up giving me 2 or 3 for the 1 I gave them. It is "Sheri's plastic relocation program"- SPRP- for short. (Boys grow out of beginner discs super fast- where women might only play a few times per year the first few years we play.)

Carl- I completely agree with your disc choices but I would up the weight of the mid range to no higher than 166-167. Girls need to feel the difference in the wind. Putters can be a little heavier too. I used my soft challenger as a mid range for for YEARS. I was ascared of mid ranges. (Not no more though!)

Challengers are wonderful, aren't they? I remember the days when I had arm power and I would play Morley Field with just challengers and shoot like -5 each time.

Lots of Am men shuffle discs through their bag like nobody's business...the more accomplished the golfer, the more plastic he probably has to give away. I used to shuffle discs all the time before I hurt myself, now I have about 15 discs that I always use consistenly and it doesn't really change a whole lot.

Back then I would stockpile plastic because I had to have this disc and that disc and it would only stay in my bag for a few weeks usually. Now I stockpile plastic because I don't use most of the discs I win. Not all those discs are 175 Xcal's, ya know.

In other words, what i'm saying is, if you find an accomplished am golfer such as myself who likes to help teach the game, then he is probably a gold mine for free plastic.

As far as the weights are concerned Sheri, I usually try to notice if the disc can handle the snap of the player. If she's flipping em' over, time for a heavier disc.

When a new Dawg shows up at league, I say, today you will throw your frisbee 75 feet and straight. Thats all you need to do. Do not touch your putter until you are within 75 feet of the basket. Women NEED success but we only need a little to be satisfied and show up the following week.

Oh- and plastic whores like you Carl (am boys that win alot of stuff they don't know what to do with-) they are FAT BEACHWOOD SPONSORS. I stockpile all new donated plastic then have one doubles fundraiser that is paid out ALL in (donated) plastic. I will either sell the remaining discs or use them in AM payout.

I may be a plastic *****, but at least it means i'm a winner. Or in the case of this weekend, a big winner.

Just so you know...I may be playing Full Throttle in August (the A-tier in Utah) because Roper might be able to play after all...It's a fun tourney, and I might be able to secure free lodging...would be a fun tournament for you to travel to. Let me know when that Can-Am cup comes up and I'll let you know what's up with coming out there.

Full throttle is my birthday weekend. Lets see if I can swing a plane ticket for my present. I can be pretty convincing. (ultimately it depends if I go to the Vibram)

Didn't realize they were so close together.

Lets try thinking before we speak boys.....

We have a random draw doubles league night on Wednesdays in BUffalo. We get huge numbers and have two divisions. I started playing league seriously in 2005 and immediately won the am division that year. I moved up to the open in 2006 and never looked back. Girls get a tee advantage.

So..... A boy says to me on monday. It really isn't fair that girls only get one tee advantage. They should get two. Are you kidding me? Does anyone feel the insensitivity and huge pile of bull goo here? The boy that made this statement....Did he ever win the Am division?? Hell no. Is he even close to a good enough player to say ANYTHING? Hell no.

Girl disc golfers love the game. the competetion. AND we like to play funner tees. No where anywhere ever have I ever seen the boys only sign. I am not here as a token or something nice to look at. My discs are round and my snap is huge. Back off boys. If you don't wanna play with us, stay home.

Last night was opening night. As luck would have it, My partner- a girl. My partner Carol and I shot 11 down with a bogey. Hey buddy- the one with the mouth- I spent your cash on beer for me and the girls. Thanks for donating.

Sheri, I think you need to start a new thread. You're past the point to where boys are holding you back...

Also, think about who is saying this. It would be more ignorant if someone who was a more accomplished golfer said it. Sounds like the guy was a newbie, who paid for your beer anyway. Maybe he won't feel that way after getting smoked by two women.

Either way, don't let such ignorance affect you, no matter what they say. It's wasted energy. You know, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make em drink. They have to figure it out on their own, they're not going to listen to you. Best thing you can do is ignore it.

I think that being able to be taught by your other half shows the level of relationship. See my fiancee is my best friend as well. If we are playing a casual round I have no worries calling him over to show me a new shot or help me try to find a diference line to open up more opportunities. There are some relationships that 'just are' that love. I am not saying that it's a bad relationship, just different. I don't think that you can put a generalized idea to relationships because I don't know a single one that is the same in anyway. Including friendships.

Just my thoughts.


Happy Golfin

audi

There only a few men who care, and seek to balance this, but don't forget the maternal (desire to help) nature is most dominant in females. We inherited that from women. Most men just suck at the execution. Just my two cents:)

Audi- god bless ya! But, I stick with my oriniginal opinion. You and your intended are special people more than the norm. My shortcomings include intense independence. No man gonna tell me what to do.....even if it is better for me. The problem with being a punk. I'm just lucky that I found Mark. We are not romantically involved but I love him enough to listen and not take anything personal. He is an excellent teacher. Perfect for a crazy Sheri.

Carl- I think the reason I keep this thread going is to maybe open the eyes of everyone involved. The girl who doesn't realize that stupid statements ARE getting into her head and for the boys (who probably well intended) who are sneaking into our heads.

Girl power- we learn from each other.