cmrichar
Jan 28 2010, 12:00 PM
This is now a dedicated thread for MVP Disc Sports and our products. Feel free to inquiry about any questions you may have.

Thanks,
Chad Richardson
MVP Disc Sports

cmrichar
Jan 28 2010, 12:00 PM
My apologies for the double post, the post won’t allow for all of the pictures/images, so I will post them here. Here is a list of links to our current retailers:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2h3r1o0.png (http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/cgi/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=ST-19204) X-Outs (http://www.marshallstreetdiscgolf.com/product/ST-19208/X-Out-Ion/)

http://www.discgolfcenter.com/images/background/D01/logo.gif (http://www.discgolfcenter.com/main_displayProduct.php?p=536)

http://i50.tinypic.com/18kbb4.jpg (http://www.clearwaterdiscgolfstore.com/maplevalleyionputter-p-5749.html)

http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/images/sk_01.jpg (http://www.sunkingdiscs.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2491)

http://i47.tinypic.com/34xeufc.jpg (http://gottagogottathrow.com/discgolf/disc-golf-putter-sale-p-2091.html)

http://i48.tinypic.com/9uqfq1.jpg (http://www.discgolfworld.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=3219&mscssid=J1GDXGB1AA9L9KXTWHDXAGJ0R6B77TJF)

http://i48.tinypic.com/5ebint.jpg (http://discgolfmuseum.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=508)

http://i42.tinypic.com/715y7o.jpg (http://landsharksports.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=7)

http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/logos/logoEbay_x45.gif (http://shop.ebay.com/iondiscs/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340)

pdorries
Jan 28 2010, 12:34 PM
are they pdga approved?

readysetstab
Jan 28 2010, 02:23 PM
i saw a few months ago that this disc was approved.

just to clarify... the difference between "soft" and "medium" is just the middle, or core, part of the disc? the grippy rim stays the same?

cmrichar
Jan 28 2010, 03:07 PM
are they pdga approved?
Yes, the ION was approved on 9/14/09. (It is approved under the company who funded our mold, CAM Realty)

just to clarify... the difference between "soft" and "medium" is just the middle, or core, part of the disc? the grippy rim stays the same?
Indeed. The idea is to have multiple flexibilities of the Proton plastic used for the core for different players preferences, yet always having our grippy chain grabbing overmold.

All of our first and second runs are of our Soft Proton core, which gives the ION a semi flexible feeling disc. We are going to be running our Medium Proton cores in the near future.

Shags17
Jan 28 2010, 03:19 PM
Have you thrown any of the Ions enough to see how the over core is reacting to beating in? The only problem i could see with the over core is it being too thin and cracking and breaking off once it gets beat. I like the idea though for keeping the edge of the wing softer for putting

cmrichar
Jan 28 2010, 03:38 PM
Have you thrown any of the Ions enough to see how the over core is reacting to beating in? The only problem i could see with the over core is it being too thin and cracking and breaking off once it gets beat. I like the idea though for keeping the edge of the wing softer for putting
Very good question, our plastic we use for our overmold is indeed an extremely durable plastic, along with it being very tacky. I have actually repeatedly thrown (at full drive power) a handful of our protos and first runs into a rough cinder block wall testing the durability. There is virtually no chance of the two plastics separating, I have tried to do so. There were very minimal signs of wear even along the tacky plastic used for the overmold. I would say the overmold plastic is very similar, in terms of durability, to Innova Star plastic. The Proton plastic is comparable to Innova Champion plastic in terms of durability.

gdstour
Jan 29 2010, 10:39 PM
Hey chad,
Good to see you guys got the over-molded discs down,, I really like the looks of the 2 part discs, anf of course you know I love the concept.

anyway,, is it possible for you guys to mold S type plastic in the flight and the TPU in the rim of the putter?

Like soft tacky material in the flight plate for grip and then different degrees of firmness on the outer layer?

there a whole lot you could do with this technology in drivers and mids too!


good to see you up and running!

pdiddy71
Jan 29 2010, 10:42 PM
will you be making a putter with just the electron plastic? my friend has a couple of these. he has switched over to them completely.

shteev
Jan 29 2010, 10:46 PM
i am curious if there will be a stamping process available similar to the cfr. also, what is the eta for the medium softness because i felt some of the soft and they are great but i would love to feel a slightly stiffer core.

Breeze
Jan 30 2010, 01:08 AM
Looks really cool. How do they fly? Glide fade etc.. What would you compare it with?

Thanks
-Chris

cmrichar
Jan 30 2010, 05:43 PM
Hey chad,
Good to see you guys got the over-molded discs down,, I really like the looks of the 2 part discs, anf of course you know I love the concept.

anyway,, is it possible for you guys to mold S type plastic in the flight and the TPU in the rim of the putter?

Like soft tacky material in the flight plate for grip and then different degrees of firmness on the outer layer?

there a whole lot you could do with this technology in drivers and mids too!

good to see you up and running!

Hey Dave, nice to hear from you again!

As for a S type plastic and a TPU combo. We have not yet begun to experiment with any baseline plastics as of yet. The idea is still up, and we want to look into doing so in the future. There are definitely a lot of huge potential combinations we are thinking about down the road, and the addition of a baseline plastic into the combination only multiplies the number of possibilities.

Right now, the two combinations that we are sure of are a Soft Proton plastic core, and a Medium Proton plastic core, both having our tacky/grippy plastic overmold. These two flexibilities should be a very good compliment to each other for those who like a softer feeling disc and/or for those who prefer a more rigid putter.

will you be making a putter with just the electron plastic? my friend has a couple of these. he has switched over to them completely.

Do you remember what the disc looked like? Was it completely clear? or closer to a milky/opaque shade? I take it that the disc was very flexible? or was it stiffer?

We have a small variety of some small random mixes when we were prototyping testing out some combinations/flexibilities/etc. I believe that a few of those random protos got out. There are not many of them at all left, however, we do want to eventually come out with some different flexibilities/colors/etc down the road. So that is always a possibility.

i am curious if there will be a stamping process available similar to the cfr. also, what is the eta for the medium softness because i felt some of the soft and they are great but i would love to feel a slightly stiffer core.

By this do you mean, will we have limited stamped runs at a premium to raise money for charity events? or like full color discs? We havent looked at getting any full color discs yet, but that is something we will consider. Right now, we are wanting to come up with a hotstamp for the ION. In my original post, I talk about what we have in mind, and a contest possibility. We would like to know if anyone would be interested in doing so?

For the Medium Proton plastic cores. I do not want to give out any approximate dates as of when these will be ran or be available, but I will say that this is our next step right now, and we hope to start testing out the Medium Proton plastic soon. We want to get this out so we have the ION available in Soft and Medium Proton plastic. And then even farther down the road, we are coming up with some other creative combinations of different plastics for the core/overmold of the ION.

Looks really cool. How do they fly? Glide fade etc.. What would you compare it with?

Thanks
-Chris

I have not thrown the ION enough to give a fair flight scale. I have been very busy with school and have not had the chance to see how it really flies. However, on the DGR forums, many have boughten our first runs and have been giving their thoughts on how it looks/feels/flies. Do keep in mind that almost all of these reviews are from our first runs weighing around 166g +/- 2g. With the second runs up to max weight, I have noticed that they are flying slightly more stable compared to the first runs.

A lot of the reviews start at page 3 when they started to recieve the ION.
Please read players reviews here: http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15566&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

When you get your ION please feel free to tell how how you like them! We want to know what you like, dislike, how they fly, hows the durability, how are they grabbing the chains, everything!

Please keep the questions and comments coming!

Thanks,
Chad

Honor Guard
Jan 30 2010, 07:46 PM
good luck with the ion. i love the structural concept and the visuals and will definitely give it a try!

pdiddy71
Jan 30 2010, 09:20 PM
it was one of your first runs, the blue with the red edge.

MikeInscho
Feb 16 2010, 12:35 AM
I definitely think an art contest for a possible stamp is a GREAT idea. I'm already starting to brainstorm some ideas.

gokayaksteven
Feb 17 2010, 11:22 AM
i like the look of plain, non-stamp discs.

cmrichar
Feb 23 2010, 01:00 AM
Hello all, theres been a ton of reviews poring in at the DGR boards. If you haven't read any yet, I suggest you check it out: http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15566&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Right now.... an art contest is in the works as we would like to get a stamp for the ION made up soon. I am thinking that the contest will be held here as a different thread. All the details/info/prizes will be listed there.

Soon after that begins we want to get moving on the Medium Proton plastic run!

Thanks,
Chad

cmrichar
Mar 16 2010, 04:36 PM
Its now time for an Art Contest!!! Good Luck Participants!!!

http://www.pdga.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=33548

mikeP
Mar 18 2010, 09:38 AM
Since there is little discussion here of the Ion's actual flight, I'll chime in. I've been using Ions for a couple months now and I absolutely love everything about mine.

For starters, I've been putting with the Voodoo since it came out. One of the things that got me initially interested in the Ion is that it has a profile very similar to a Voodoo. It just feels very rounded and smooth in the hand. Compared to the Voodoo, I think I like the Ion's feel a little bit better due to the slightly lower profile and smoother, shallower underside. I still putt with a beat Voodoo because my Ion's are still a bit more stable than I like for short putts.

Where the Ion really shines for me (and everyone else who I've talked to who is throwing them) is for short drives and upshots. It holds its release angle very well, while still gliding and penetrating forward. It goes farther than any true putter I've ever thrown as well. I can throw it hard or soft and it works great. I'm throwing heavy 2nd runs. They do not flip unless I give them a little turn on my release. The one I've been throwing the most has broken in slightly so that now if I really rip it, it flips a tiny bit and holds. For approach shots 200' and in, it holds any bit angle you give it, hyzer or anhyzer. It is stable enough to avoid turning in on itself on an anhyzer as well as holding a hyzer angle without flipping up. It almost always fights back slightly for a soft landing.

Simply put, the Ion is the best putter driver I've ever thrown. It has increased my comfortable putter driver distance 20-30'. Since putters are already the most accurate discs in the game, this is significant. It also gives me a single approach disc that I can manipulate any flight with. This is good because I can control the flight with one comfortable disc rather than having to depend on different discs to turn left or right. I must also mention that the Ion works great for me on forehands. It flies exactly like it does backhand. I think the increased gyroscopic effect of the overmold smooths out my throws that might have a little wobble on them with other putters.

mikeP
Mar 23 2010, 10:20 PM
The newest run of Ions is being produced currently and should be out to stores within a couple of weeks! They will have a stiffer center than the previous runs (medium). I for one can't wait to throw one since I usually like my putters a little stiffer than the soft runs, and considering how much I liked the soft ones I can't even imagine how well these new ones might work for me!

cmrichar
Mar 23 2010, 10:48 PM
The newest run of Ions is being produced currently and should be out to stores within a couple of weeks! They will have a stiffer center than the previous runs (medium). I for one can't wait to throw one since I usually like my putters a little stiffer than the soft runs, and considering how much I liked the soft ones I can't even imagine how well these new ones might work for me!

This is indeed correct! We are running the core (center portion) in our Medium Proton plastic and they are turning out great! We will continue to run a bunch of these, and then mold our grippy plastic overmold on them afterwards.

If all goes well we should have these all molded up within a few weeks!

I feel that these are what many people have been looking for to go along with our previous Soft Proton runs.

Thanks,
~Chad

MikeInscho
Mar 23 2010, 11:37 PM
Definitely looking forward to the stiffer runs since I like putting with KC Aviars. Can't wait to throw em'.

drdisc
Mar 24 2010, 01:41 AM
What is MSRP?

DOC65
Mar 24 2010, 01:25 PM
What is MSRP?

Manufactures Suggested Retail Price

shteev
Mar 24 2010, 09:30 PM
google is a great way to not have to wait for an answer about msrp on a disc golf forum. just a suggestion

cmrichar
Apr 17 2010, 08:21 PM
What is MSRP?$15.95

Here is the finished hotstamp design! Keeping note that the image size is not proportionate to the final hotstamp size.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2870vsw.jpg

Once again another huge thanks to both Mike and Zach for their artwork which has been combined to create the hotstamp which we are going to use.

We will be working on getting the die made and soon will start stamping thereafter! Right now we are still working everything out for the medium run and want to perfect everything before we release them yet. The shop has still been finishing up a few things which has delayed us a little bit giving us time to prepare for the hotstamp. We are going to get the hotstamp ready as we work on the medium run that way we can release the mediums with the new stamp!

Thanks,
~Chad