Who's the PDGA Player of the Decade?

Ken Climo?

Nate Doss?

Des Reading?

Who's giving that award?

Anyway, the decade doesn't end until the end of 2010.

really? This decade started when 1999 ended...which would be the year 2000. 2000-2009 is this decade. 2010 is a new decade just like the 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's. Barry Schultz would be my vote

The first year was year 1. A decade contains 10 years, so the first decade was years 1-10. The second decade contains years 11-20, and so on. So, a decade ends with a year ending in zero; hence, 2001-2010.

Asking who is the best player of the 2000s is different than asking who is the best player of the last decade. No biggie, just a clarification.

EOM

My vite is for Doss.

really? This decade started when 1999 ended...which would be the year 2000. 2000-2009 is this decade. 2010 is a new decade just like the 70's, 80's, 90's and 00's. Barry Schultz would be my vote

I agree - the 90's ended at the end of 1999 not 2000. Current decade would be 2000 through 2009.

I don't think they called Year 1, Year 1. Anyway, I think the original question was refering to who is the best players from these ten years (Last decade).

1.) 2000
2.) 2001
3.) 2002
4.) 2003
5.) 2004
6.) 2005
7.) 2006
8.) 2007
9.) 2008
10.) 2009

If you are including 2000 as apart of this decade (which I believe it is), then that is the past ten years.

I'd vote Ken Climo

I'll check back next week when you guys figure out what a decade is.

Barry Schultz

POD would be 2000-2009

For example Tiger Woods just voted POD by the AP last week

Chuck - Help us with some stats. Who won the most tourneys? Who won the most majors? Who won the most cash?

I am suprised Des isn't getting more run. Didn't She dominate her division for a large portion of the decade.

Chuck - Help us with some stats. Who won the most tourneys? Who won the most majors? Who won the most cash?

I am suprised Des isn't getting more run. Didn't She dominate her division for a large portion of the decade.


For female Player of the Decade:

Juliana - 3 World Championships
Des - 3 World Championships
Valarie - 3 World Championships



For the men:

Ken - 3 World Championships
Barry - 2 World Championships
Nate - 2 World Championships
Cam, Dave and Avery - 1 each

For female Player of the Decade:

Juliana - 3 World Championships
Des - 3 World Championships
Valarie - 3 World Championships



For the men:

Ken - 3 World Championships
Barry - 2 World Championships
Nate - 2 World Championships
Cam, Dave and Avery - 1 each

Worlds is one thing, what about the other events. For the Men I'd say its definately between Ken, Barry, & Nate. For the Women I'd go with Des as I think she finished 2 a number of times too. My question is, are Des' credentials enough to top even the best men's play for Player of the Decade.

I think you need to separate the men from the women for this award. I don't have any better access to stats than what you have available by looking up each player's tournament and ratings histories online here. Ratings go back to 1999 online. The only stats that aren't online yet are a good portion of 2001 events and earlier. Probably have to look in the DGWN issues from that period to piece together their tournament results.

Peter Shive - 8 World Championships - 2001-2008

climo based on 4 usdgc titles to barry's 3.

I'll check back next week when you guys figure out what a decade is.

A decade has never changed - it is and always will be 10 years.

My decade can start whenever I want it to be and go 10 years form that time, and someone elses can start when they want it to and go 10 years from that time

The problem arises when people want you to use "their decade" when you are thinking of "your decade". :)

I had fun adding up some of the money won by our top dogs...I was a bit surprised who has won the most since 2001! Are you? Please note these are quick calculations and could easily be incorrect.

Top Earners From 2001-2009

Barry Schultz - $238,877 with an average of about 28 events a year
Dave Feldberg - $211,023 with an average of about 28 events a year
Ken Climo - $199,412 with an average of about 17 events a year
Avery Jenkins - $157,198 with an average of about 26 events a year
Steve Rico - $134,687 with an average of about 21 events a year
Nate Doss - $112,795 with an average of about 18 events a year


Hard to believe Schultz has cleared over a quarter of a million.......

I had fun adding up some of the money won by our top dogs...I was a bit surprised who has won the most since 2001! Are you? Please note these are quick calculations and could easily be incorrect.

Top Earners From 2001-2009

Barry Schultz - $238,877 with an average of about 28 events a year
Dave Feldberg - $211,023 with an average of about 28 events a year
Ken Climo - $199,412 with an average of about 17 events a year
Avery Jenkins - $157,198 with an average of about 26 events a year
Steve Rico - $134,687 with an average of about 21 events a year
Nate Doss - $112,795 with an average of about 18 events a year


Hard to believe Schultz has cleared over a quarter of a million.......

WOW KC Averages around $1200 per event. NICE!

Barry Schultz has my vote...

2 Worlds
3 USDGCs
17 NT wins compared to 12 to Climo
More cash winnings

I havent dont any digging with A tier wins, but I'd be willing to bet Barry has more than Kenny.

Barry Schultz has my vote...

2 Worlds
3 USDGCs
17 NT wins compared to 12 to Climo
More cash winnings

I havent dont any digging with A tier wins, but I'd be willing to bet Barry has more than Kenny.

Kenny played in 40% fewer tourneys and only won 16% less money than Barry. Quality over quantity?

can some give me the head to head results of KC and Barry

can some give me the head to head results of KC and Barry

According to my quick math (which took about a half hour) I got:

KC - 38
BS - 33
Ties - 3

Suprisingly they didn't play against eachother as many times in the big tourneys as I would have thought. Barry rarely seemed to go out to the West coast when KC traveled out there. Barry was ahead of KC until his tough year in 2007 where he lost to KC 7 out of 7 times.

Thats some good stuff Shick. There is no doubt that it is really close between those guys.

You got to wonder if Kenny would have won more cash than Barry if he'd have played as much as Barry.

07 was a tough year for barry. Didnt he take some time off from touring? I thought i heard he was a little burned out and needed some time off...

I'd go with Schultz - you say quality over quantity, but at the same time would you rather have someone that puts in a full season or someone who does it over half a season? Barry plays a bit over half the weekends in a year on average, Climo plays just under one third of the weekends. I give it the man from Wisconsin.

I wonder who it'll be next decade... Nikko, Ulibarri, Doss, Avery, Dave... someone that won't even emerge until the coming season or two?

I had fun adding up some of the money won by our top dogs...I was a bit surprised who has won the most since 2001! Are you? Please note these are quick calculations and could easily be incorrect.

Top Earners From 2001-2009

Barry Schultz - $238,877 with an average of about 28 events a year
Dave Feldberg - $211,023 with an average of about 28 events a year
Ken Climo - $199,412 with an average of about 17 events a year
Avery Jenkins - $157,198 with an average of about 26 events a year
Steve Rico - $134,687 with an average of about 21 events a year
Nate Doss - $112,795 with an average of about 18 events a year


Hard to believe Schultz has cleared over a quarter of a million.......

What's harder to believe is the earnings disparity among professional athletes. How long would it take for Tiger, ARod or McGrady to earn $250,000? Days, weeks? :(

My vote goes to Climo. Always on top of his game and his course etiquette...

You got a point there Mrspank.
Pretty sad that a professional golfer can make more in one tournament by getting 80th place then a pro disc golfer can make in an entire year playing 20+ tournaments.

except disc golf doesnt make billions of dollars a year from advertising, tv deals and fan sales

You got a point there Mrspank.
Pretty sad that a professional golfer can make more in one tournament by getting 80th place then a pro disc golfer can make in an entire year playing 20+ tournaments.
One word, worth millions to the other players on tour: TIGER.

Tom Monroe was voted Player of the Decade for the 80's, Climo for the 90's.
Tom was the first Pro Kenny beat on his rise to the top.
Too bad the old magazines are not online.

Tom Monroe was voted Player of the Decade for the 80's, Climo for the 90's.
Tom was the first Pro Kenny beat on his rise to the top.
Too bad the old magazines are not online.


Congratulations Dr. Disc/Tom Monroe!

Suzette Simons also applauds the third person reference. Not everyone can pull that off. ;)

Just trying to keep the history alive.

Peter Shive - 8 World Championships - 2001-2008

WHO??????????

Oh and a decade is 10 years but this decade we are currently in is 2010-2019 last was 2000-2009 come on guys we all should know this.

WHO??????????

Oh and a decade is 10 years but this decade we are currently in is 2010-2019 last was 2000-2009 come on guys we all should know this.

http://www.innovadiscs.com/team/shive.html

....that's who. I mean regardless of division, did anyone have a more successful decade? The guy never lost.

JMONNY has it right.

Peter Shive. 8 Worlds titles.

Case closed.

I had fun adding up some of the money won by our top dogs...I was a bit surprised who has won the most since 2001! Are you? Please note these are quick calculations and could easily be incorrect.

Top Earners From 2001-2009

Barry Schultz - $238,877 with an average of about 28 events a year
Dave Feldberg - $211,023 with an average of about 28 events a year
Ken Climo - $199,412 with an average of about 17 events a year
Avery Jenkins - $157,198 with an average of about 26 events a year
Steve Rico - $134,687 with an average of about 21 events a year
Nate Doss - $112,795 with an average of about 18 events a year


Hard to believe Schultz has cleared over a quarter of a million.......

A quarter million would be $250,000.

There is a reason stoners use par 3.

Congratulations Dr. Disc/Tom Monroe!

Suzette Simons also applauds the third person reference. Not everyone can pull that off. ;)

Kind of like Clark Kent reporting on the exploits of Superman, eh? ;)

Where's reporter Lois (E)Lane the King when you need her...

JMONNY has it right.

Peter Shive. 8 Worlds titles.

Case closed.

I would think you'd have to look at the open divisions only but if you want to look at age restricted divisions then you have to consider Dave Wiggins Jr.

Wiggins has 10+ world titles from 04-09. He has won an individual World Title every year competing so far (6 total from 04-09)! I believe he has 4 (maybe 5) World Doubles titles not to mention his multiple World Titles for distance and misc areas. That coupled with his multiple distance records set throughout the decade (mostly latter half) would have to put him in strong contention.

Which Player has won the Most Majors in the Open division this decade?

I would think you'd have to look at the open divisions only but if you want to look at age restricted divisions then you have to consider Dave Wiggins Jr.

Wiggins has 10+ world titles from 04-09. He has won an individual World Title every year competing so far (6 total from 04-09)! I believe he has 4 (maybe 5) World Doubles titles not to mention his multiple World Titles for distance and misc areas. That coupled with his multiple distance records set throughout the decade (mostly latter half) would have to put him in strong contention.

This in NO WAY is meant do disrespect young Mr Wiggins but I do believe we was 2nd in 09 and didn't win the individual title last year. I do believe he played up in a higher division though.

Yes, Mr Wiggins deserves consideration.

As our numbers grow, perhaps we should consider divisional POD awards?

Check out the new page to be posted this morning with stats to support your votes for Players of the Decade for Men and Women. http://www.pdga.com/player-of-the-decade

It's Schultz!

1. Most money earned
2. Highest win percentage (only one close was Climo)
3. Most NT wins by 6
4. Most A Tier wins by 15!
5. Most wins by 19
6. 2nd most majors won

Wow...

Climo is the player of the decade.

He not only has better wins in better events, every time he plays with a target on his back. EVERY TIME HE PLAYS, he plays with that mark. He is the Champ, he is known as the CHAMP, and when people beat him, they are giddy inside. He consistently has played at a higher level, he already had indicated that he would be traveling less and picking out events that match his desire to play and balance work/professional life, and he does this as we all look to him for the winning approach that he brings with him to almost every event.

Des is HANDS down the women's best of the entire decade. You look at how hard she has played, won, travelled, went beyond the game to bring in others to our sport, and conintues to be a quality ambassador for the sport.

While Val has had a more recent winning streak, one must realize that Nicki Ross was handing her compeition a good plate of crow in the Am's and Val couldn't best her when Des was winning the Worlds in the early part of the decade. She not only won the World's, but has continued to play at a top level in every event, and has tirelessly givne herself to the game of Disc Golf throughout the ENTIRE decade (except the first 2 years) beyond what any other woman has for our sport.

ITs relatively easy.

Ken

Des

Ken is the tough one, as Barry has a strong case, but the rest of the people listed, really do not come close to the numbers, or the sheer gameplay that these two did throughout the decade. I spent many hours contemplating this exact argument, and really it boiled down to the MARK that Kenny carries with him everywhere. He started the decade with that Mark, and finished the Decade with that Mark. Barry got the mark, but it was only after he Beat Kenny.....

Your answer may vary, but realistically Kenny and Des were the top players of the decade.

Just so we are clear....

The PDGA will not be naming "Players of the Decade" or giving any awards based upon the results of the online poll. The sole purpose of the DiscGolfer article (spring 2010 issue, page 35) and the complementary online poll at PDGA.com is to spur debate and stimulate conversation amongst our members as to who "YOU" think is the Player of the Decade based upon what "YOU" feel are the most important factors.

Look for fun polls and other interactive content like this in the future as we begin to integrate DiscGolfer Magazine with PDGA.com more to increase enjoyment and improve communication amongst our members.

Uh-oh, a probationer said "lame".

Uh-oh, a probationer said "lame".

Yeah I actually was trying to conceal my vulgar language........lame = Male

Can you personally attack a MB structure? If so I hope "lame" didn't cross that line that seems to be different depending on who is posting.

ITs relatively easy.

Ken

Des

Ken is the tough one, as Barry has a strong case, but the rest of the people listed, really do not come close to the numbers, or the sheer gameplay that these two did throughout the decade.

darn fine analysis Jack. All the way around, I kinda thought Barry edged out Kenny a bit, but you're exactly right about Des. All of them are excellent ambassadors of the sport, but Jay and Des get extra kudos for all of the fine work they do EDGE-wise in getting the sport installed in educational systems. (I like to think of it as the "farm" league of the future of our sport.)

Dave Feldberg or Nate Doss.

but mutch respect for KC fighting and playing in Open even though 40+ I hope Im that strong at 40.

Jack Lowe is correct as usual.

KC and Des.

For me, the 8 Majors seals the deal for Kenny.

Looking at the Stats, both of these players dominated the stats across the board and obviously deserve it since it covers the span of a decade of stats.

Schultz & Reading

It looks like Kenny had won more money per event than Barry.

About $1100 to $850 according to the graphic above.

Unfortunately, you can't really calculate a true $$/event for the data in the table. The Dollars are total dollars won for all ten years in all PDGA events. The event count is only Supertours/A-tiers, NTs and Majors. At some point, Dave might produce just the money won in those higher tier events and we could do that calculation. I'm also hoping to get the data from Gentry to produce a head-to-head tally for Schultz/Climo and Korver/Reading/Jenkins to add to the discussion.

I'd say Barry and Des. Runners up, Kenny and Val. Second runners up, Doss and Juliana.

Tough call, Barry was just more of a tour warrior and had the most wins. And Kenny already has a decade, so might as well spread the wealth...

Kudos to Peter Shive, too, I just can't see a "player of the decade" award going to any division besides open...

Dr. Disc taught me how to **** my wrist down properly when I was 16 years old, 31 years ago. I beat him in distance that same day. I studied him intently for many, many years.

Unfortunately, you can't really calculate a true $$/event for the data in the table. The Dollars are total dollars won for all ten years in all PDGA events. The event count is only Supertours/A-tiers, NTs and Majors. At some point, Dave might produce just the money won in those higher tier events and we could do that calculation. I'm also hoping to get the data from Gentry to produce a head-to-head tally for Schultz/Climo and Korver/Reading/Jenkins to add to the discussion.

I found myself wanting this exact information, it may have altered who exactly the player of the decade was, it is extremely limited in the scope that could be defined, and I felt as though that there are probably quite a few people that could be in the mix if we accounted for all PDGA events.

As it stands, if its not going to be an award (Which I think it should be personally.....) then it is good fodder to keep us entertained.

I for one think that having this as an award is an awesome idea, but would limit it to TD's for the voting procedures, as most TD's have done more than one event, or if you are only giving stats for these A/Tier and above, have those TD's that did such events be the voting options, if you ran more than one event you still only get one vote.....

Anywho, it was a close call between Ken and Barry, I foud myself struggling with it for a few days over the analysis that I had, if I had more information a case very easily in my mind could have been made for Jesper, but we are limited with our continent, so maybe if you have Player of Decade, you do it in North America Male and Female, and then outside of the US, then you have some real issues to contend with......

Dave Feldberg or Nate Doss.

I could POSSIBLY see nate, but no way Dave is even close. Nate won the Am Worlds here in 1999 as jr. so he was still growing, and Dave really didn't pick up steam until 2004 or so after the Winnicrew (2002?!?) so he missed part of the decade.

Don't get me wrong, both players as they stand are great and fiercesome competitiors, but they did not impact the entire decade as Kenny and Barry did to start it off, they may be the Kenny and Barry of the next decade, but only time will tell, there's that current World Champ Avery as well off to a good start this decade.......and who knows, Nikko is very young, he has many solid years in front of him, and how he performs.

The bottom line is that Barry and Kenny ushered in the last decade, and they are still a force to be concerned with every time they play, but they have age (injuries, and life get in the way) going against them, but they have helped to create an opportunity for the above mentioned and many more in years to come, and for that, many should always be grateful that they took the time to be as good as they are!

Nate Doss or Dave Feldberg should not be considered in this discussion. I'd say its a clear 1 and 2 by Mr Climo and Shultz. I think Feldberg makes a great case for Thrid place. He has almost three times as many NT wins (if you wanna get real in depth, Dave has 11 second place finishes compared to Doss's 4 in NTs) along with a major in Players Cup, USDGC, Japan, European, and Worlds.

To me, itd go Climo, VERY close behind Shultz, and a pretty definitive third, Feldberg.

Thats just me though.

Dave's unique claim to fame in this argument is he is the only one to have won all of the aforementioned majors.

We really need to consider Players of the Decade every five years. Otherwise, the arc of a player's best years might not match the standard xxx0-xxx9 range. For example, I think KC and Korver would have won the 1995-2004 decade and Russell and Todd might have been closer than Schultz during that period. Likewise, Val is likely to be a strong candidate for 2005-2014 if she continues her dominance.

Dave's unique claim to fame in this argument is he is the only one to have won all of the aforementioned majors.

We really need to consider Players of the Decade every five years. Otherwise, the arc of a player's best years might not match the standard xxx0-xxx9 range. For example, I think KC and Korver would have won the 1995-2004 decade and Russell and Todd might have been closer than Schultz during that period. Likewise, Val is likely to be a strong candidate for 2005-2014 if she continues her dominance.

Someone I know REAL WELL said this same thing on DEC 22 of 2009 in post #16
:)

Someone I know REAL WELL said this same thing on DEC 22 of 2009 in post #16
:)

Then it took 3 months for someone to agree.