nyemm01
Aug 19 2009, 12:45 PM
So i have this problem where i tend to saw off my drives quite a bit in pressure situations or even in casual golf sometimes and i cant seem to fix it. ive come to the conclusion that it has to do with confidence and committing to my shot and MAYBE a little bit of a grip problem.
But i still seem to saw off drives on a regular basis. Can anyone help solve this problem for me and maybe shed some light on why i keep doing this?!?!?
Thanks for any help!
DSproAVIAR
Aug 19 2009, 01:42 PM
Develop a preshot routine. Start at the point where you want to release the disc at the end of the pad. Position every part of your body to where it needs to be at that point. Then, work backwards from there.
jmonny
Aug 19 2009, 01:53 PM
I think most sawed off shots are caused by trying to throw too hard. When you're in that
position next just concentrate on keeping normal arm speed, not too fast.
Also on open shots don't focus so much on the basket, pick a target or line right of the basket and follow thru to that target. The disc will hyzer to the basket instead of away from it.
Keep your disc flight low, theres a lot less chance of sawing off low shots. Watch a video of Climo.
ChrisWoj
Aug 19 2009, 03:59 PM
I think you have a different definition from other people of "sawed off" jmonny - To saw something off is to leave it short, and in disc golf leaving something short or releasing it weakly ("sawing it off") tends to result in a throw without any zip, falling off hard left (for righty backhand) and early. Usually, from what I've seen, it tends to be the result of trying too hard to "place" a shot where you want it. You wind up releasing it early and before the pop because you're focusing on throwing it softly and safely.
The best example on video is the 2007 USDGC Lead Card Live, watch Avery Jenkins on hole 3. (not to say we don't all do it, and not to make an example of the World Champ, but it IS the best widespread example on DVD)
In order to eliminate sawing off shots I had to start giving myself confident in throwing every single shot FIRMLY. Never tell yourself that you want to throw something softly, even if you want it to only travel a short distance, saying you want it soft or saying you need to be careful tends to result in cutting off your follow through short and releasing the disc without coming through the pop fully. Tell yourself, once you've decided on the line you want, to throw it light but FIRM and emphasize firmness in your mind and in your throw.
I hope this helps, with most people I've talked to the problem tends to be mental. If you want to work more on it physically: make sure you're following through all the way. Go into a field and emphasize your follow through. Focus on bringing your arm all the way through, and letting your body follow your arm around.
-Chris.
discette
Aug 19 2009, 04:10 PM
Three things you can do:
Remind yourself to follow through.
Remind yourself again to follow through
and then....
follow through!
nyemm01
Aug 19 2009, 04:52 PM
thanks for the replies guys. it all has helped me. i think my sawing off is more mental and trying to place my shot like Chris said. im almost a 970 golfer and i still have this issue so i appreciate the advice.
follow through i feel is huge to and all this comes to having a good preshoot routine where u align urself where u wanna be and be confident with ur release and follow through.
any other advise is great! thanks guys!
pterodactyl
Aug 19 2009, 05:05 PM
And maybe work on throwing past the target.
Never up, never in.
Patrick P
Aug 19 2009, 08:19 PM
Oh boy, the sawed-off shot, probably the most discouraging shot for me as the result looks as if I threw pixey dust on my disc. Each time this has happened it is because I tried to place and aim the shot like throwing a dart vs. following through the entire arm motion.
I recommend practicing your entire arm motion several times at the point of release, then take your steps backwards, pause, breath, then drive, release, and follow through all in one smooth motion without stopping or having a break in your follow through.
jmonny
Aug 21 2009, 09:31 AM
I think you have a different definition from other people of "sawed off" jmonny - To saw something off is to leave it short, and in disc golf leaving something short or releasing it weakly ("sawing it off") tends to result in a throw without any zip, falling off hard left (for righty backhand) and early. Usually, from what I've seen, it tends to be the result of trying too hard to "place" a shot where you want it. You wind up releasing it early and before the pop because you're focusing on throwing it softly and safely.
The best example on video is the 2007 USDGC Lead Card Live, watch Avery Jenkins on hole 3. (not to say we don't all do it, and not to make an example of the World Champ, but it IS the best widespread example on DVD)
-Chris.
I guess it's a matter of opinion but since you used an example so will I. On the 2006 USDGC video Avery goes OB on hole 3 long and left and Billy Crump calls it sawed off. Plenty of zip and not short at all just too much hyzer angle and too nose up. A sawed off shot can be long or past the basket, I do it all the time. What you're describing sounds more like a shank drive or a fluffed approach. It's just terminology, maybe it's time for an official DG dictionary, anyway I hope some of our suggestions help you nyemm01.
nyemm01
Aug 21 2009, 03:34 PM
i have always thought of a saw off job as a drive that is not fully committed to that is usually released slightly early, resulting in the shot ending short and left (for a backhand righty). they dont always result in nose up drives. throwing the wrong disc nose up and hyzering left isnt neccessarily the results of sawing a drive off.
jmonny
Aug 21 2009, 04:30 PM
i have always thought of a saw off job as a drive that is not fully committed to that is usually released slightly early, resulting in the shot ending short and left (for a backhand righty). they dont always result in nose up drives. throwing the wrong disc nose up and hyzering left isnt neccessarily the results of sawing a drive off.
You're basically right, my point was that you can saw a shot off and still be long or past your target, it's mostly due to releasing early and left of your target line (IMO of course). Saw jobs are the ones that usually sail OB left or long off the fairway. A shot with no snap that comes up short is what i call shanked or fluffed. I've seen some DG slang listed before, I don't know if "sawed off" was on it. Anyway, you'll figure it out.
skaZZirf
Sep 12 2009, 01:36 PM
Tilt the far side of the disc up a few degrees. "Sawing Off" tends to happen because people hold and throw the disc in a hyzer(downward) angle even though the body is prepped for a straight shot. Your muscle memory tends to be your best friend and worst enemy.