It has been a slow start for fly18 ths year ,but after months of work a new course with lights on till 9:30 will open this weekend.It is in Riverside CA the course is called Van Buren golf center..This is an small executive course like Emerald Isles only 2 par 4s.This course had to close 7 of the holes due to cutbacks.We can only use 11 of the holes so I will be puting dual baskets on 7 of the 11 holes to make a 22 hole course par 68...The staff is awsome and the course is fun to play at all levels of play.We will have 3 sets of tees on every hole throwing from thier grass tee box..We are working on pricing today for this weekend.Carts and snack shack with beer and wine only...The course is located at 6720 van buren blvd.riverside CA 92503 just off the 91 4 exits past the 15 on van bured blvd.Phone # 951-688-2563.The course opens sat at 12;00 tommorow!!!!!!!!!We will only have 11 of the baskets up for play the rest on monday..This will be # 19, for fly18 any more info contact me Reese @ 714-235-0100 gotta go get some blisters ...Thanks always

Will have all 22 basket positions up today ....Long night!!
$9 walking $15 with cart for 22 holes...Open at 12'00 today gotta go all baskets on the poles the course is fun under the lights.Thanks Big Mike and Felipe for the help yesterday..
GAME ON............

Leagues start next week on thursday at 6;30 pm 11 holes in the day 11 holes under the lights...Monthly are every 3rd saturday at 11:00 am 2 rounds of 22 holes.Carts and beer will give you cheer......Riverside is back, with disc golf, better than ever par 68 with an awsome staff... ;)

Van Buren golf center will hold its first monthly today lots of new faces will be on hand.Players from all over socal will meet at the testing ground.I look forward to seeing some good pro scores.The weather will be awsome ,and the beer will flow , ;)and the cart will complete the day..Start time 11:00 2 rounds of 22 holes... :o

Played the Van Buren Golf Center with Bill Maury-Holmes last Saturday from the long blue tees and had a great time.

The course only has one true pro par four hole, which is hole#7 and plays either 666 ft. or 732 ft. depending on which polehole you are shooting for. However, there are some tricky pin placements and fast greens all around making for tough par 3 holes where bogey or worse is easily had. This is especially so on the "back side" which plays to all longer pin placements and many 378-420 ft. holes are found. The OB greens (and a bunker or two) can also really come into play on these holes, and having a 425 ft. arm (which I do *not*) would be especially helpful. There's also a pond on the 6th hole which can snatch an errant drive to the short position, and the long position lies on a mound perched precariously above the hole and makes for a very tricky approach to the long pin. With 20 par 3 holes and 2 pro par four holes, par was 68 and the best score two ~ 950-rated golfers could muster was a 70.

From a disc golfing standpoint, this was a blast. On a Saturday morning at 9:30 AM with a cart and the course all to ourselves, we ripped through the front eleven holes. The second time around was a different story however because both a ladies tournament and a juniors mini-tournament had started and they were VERY reluctant to let others play through. In fact, in order to avoid interminable waits, we ended up skipping ahead to the 6th hole (now playing as hole #17 on the back side) and played through from there, coming back around and finishing holes #1-5 where we amazingly caught the juniors again. Bottom line simply is that a foursome or fivesome of disc golfers is going to play MUCH faster than a twosome of ball golfers. And if you�ve got a few foursomes of ball golfers in front of you, you are going to wait a ridiculous amount of time unless you ask to play through.

Sentiments previously expressed in the past remain in that I think that disc golf courses on ball golf courses are an excellent idea in areas of the country where land and public park space is at a minimum. There�s certainly something to be said for being able to play disc golf on watered, manicured green grass, instead of dry, dusty, scrub desert terrain. At its worst, a Fly18 course in California or Texas is probably going to be better than the nicest public park in those states. However, I doubt that this type of business venture is going to be successful in other areas of the country, where our state park & city park courses are actually amazingly nice. Very few people are going to pay the greens fees and/or cart fees to play on a ball golf course when the free local public course is just as good if not better, and don't require waiting on ball golfers or getting angry looks when asking to play through.

Played the Van Buren Golf Center with Bill Maury-Holmes last Saturday from the long blue tees and had a great time.

The course only has one true pro par four hole, which is hole#7 and plays either 666 ft. or 732 ft. depending on which polehole you are shooting for. However, there are some tricky pin placements and fast greens all around making for tough par 3 holes where bogey or worse is easily had. This is especially so on the "back side" which plays to all longer pin placements and many 378-420 ft. holes are found. The OB greens (and a bunker or two) can also really come into play on these holes, and having a 425 ft. arm (which I do *not*) would be especially helpful. There's also a pond on the 6th hole which can snatch an errant drive to the short position, and the long position lies on a mound perched precariously above the hole and makes for a very tricky approach to the long pin. With 20 par 3 holes and 2 pro par four holes, par was 68 and the best score two ~ 950-rated golfers could muster was a 70.

From a disc golfing standpoint, this was a blast. On a Saturday morning at 9:30 AM with a cart and the course all to ourselves, we ripped through the front eleven holes. The second time around was a different story however because both a ladies tournament and a juniors mini-tournament had started and they were VERY reluctant to let others play through. In fact, in order to avoid interminable waits, we ended up skipping ahead to the 6th hole (now playing as hole #17 on the back side) and played through from there, coming back around and finishing holes #1-5 where we amazingly caught the juniors again. Bottom line simply is that a foursome or fivesome of disc golfers is going to play MUCH faster than a twosome of ball golfers. And if you�ve got a few foursomes of ball golfers in front of you, you are going to wait a ridiculous amount of time unless you ask to play through.

Sentiments previously expressed in the past remain in that I think that disc golf courses on ball golf courses are an excellent idea in areas of the country where land and public park space is at a minimum. There�s certainly something to be said for being able to play disc golf on watered, manicured green grass, instead of dry, dusty, scrub desert terrain. At its worst, a Fly18 course in California or Texas is probably going to be better than the nicest public park in those states. However, I doubt that this type of business venture is going to be successful in other areas of the country, where our state park & city park courses are actually amazingly nice. Very few people are going to pay the greens fees and/or cart fees to play on a ball golf course when the free local public course is just as good if not better, and don't require waiting on ball golfers or getting angry looks when asking to play through.



I dont know about all of texas but in DFW we had a fly 18 that lasted less than a year I think! It was on a bad ball golf course but the experience was a nice change of pace but we have a LOT better course than that course in the area! :D

Thanks for the kind words Jeff.The course does 50% of its rounds on sat and sun before 12:00..I was out there for league last night at 6:00 was a blast.I did have a meeting yesterday with a new course 50 miles from van buren that will sign next wendsday.....Awsome course some elevation 2 water holes..My course in texas ideal golf ranch was in for almost 2 years and was sold to a retirement home community the leveled it.It was not even up for sale.I lost 3 courses that year because of the same thing...Fly 18 will continue to carve into the better places to play with more eminities for all players..Disc golf will fill tee times from sagging sales at golf courses in this poor economy...Van buren was #19 for fly18 and many more to come.Vision purpose f18 ;)