SO what is up with the cup this year. I have heard lots of rumors like there will be a GM division, there won't be a GM division. I heard J Gary is playing for IUP. I have heard so many rumors it's getting out of hand.


Does anyone know the format for this years Can-Am cup. Granddaddy told me it would be the same format that it was last year??? If so, is PIttsburgh trying to put together the same team??


I know Jay Gobrecht said he would love to play again. J Gary??? It would be nice to win the cup again. I know that Sid's spot is up in the air and we need a new am player.

So lets get these teams together. Is IUP bringing a team? I know Alanna and Lori both want to play. Lets get these teams together. We need to bring the cup home again.

We need to have a club meeting to discuss this among other things as well.

And to set the record straight IDLA(IUP) is forming a team.
The following are definitely in. Sorry Pittsburgh it was J Gary's idea to do this.

J Gary
J Thompson
K Poole
A Poole
Marcus D.
(one am spot to fill)

One more thing, I did talk to Jay Gobrecht about it two weeks ago. He said he had a gig that weekend so he might not be able to play.

thats cool Kurt. I am discussing with granddaddy right now about the GM/women spot as are some other clubs. We are pushing to have the same format as last year. Because the way it is now, PFDS will have 0 teams coming to the CUP.

But if we can get Lori to play...............

It would look like this for now.

Chris Deitzel - Open 1
Tim Wright - Open 2
Lori Merriman - Women
Speakerbear - Masters
Dave Olcott - Am 1
??????????? - AM 2


I can't believe J Gary doesn't want to defend the cup. huh.


I might just have to sit this one out myself this year though.

But I am sure if we have to have a women that Pittsburgh will only be bringing one team to the event, if any???

or..................perhaps we can get Dawn and Arthur to come and play the womens and am spot???

I know Lori wants to play, but not sure if she will be able to get off of work or not?

That means J Gary is sleeping in a tent this year ;)

He told me, J Gar that is, that he's won the cup enough times with Pittsburgh and that he wants to represent his Home Town of Indiana. I certainly don't mind considering that just another good player on my team.

I do agree that the format should be the same as last year. just not enough females to go around.

And yes, you guys should make him sleep in a tent :D

Just realized Dave Olcott cannot play Am...........


I'm gonna do some thinking, but I am thinking about not playing myself this year.


That is unless my phone call to Avery and Val goes successfully :)

There's plenty of Ams players to pick from.

Stella
Matty McDonalds
Hoegs
Dave Kurht
Greg M.
Scott H.

I'm not worried about getting enough players, I think its more the fact that many of the players from last years winning team are pretty upset that J Gary has left the team. Not that we can't win without him, but the fact that he doesn't want to defend the cup with his winning team is kind of disheartening.

Once again, I think the PFDS should have a offical meeting to discuss this and other PFDS matters. It's been 6 months I think since the last one.

I wish I was an AM :)


Kurt you guys should not feel bad about this at all. I think the part that bummed me out the most is that I heard the rumor from Luke Butch that J Gary wasn't playing.

It's not really a big deal as we wouldn't have the same team anyway without Jay and Sid. Just wish I Would have heard from someone local first. Not VEGAS!!!

But rest assured, I am sure that P-Burgh will get a team together, and I look forward to playing a match against J Gary like we did 2 years ago. And Lori will be thrilled to get to play on the same team as me.

What are the requirements to play amateur? I am a PFDS Lifetime Member and would be willing to play. :cool:

I pretty sure it's the same as any other PDGA event. Have you ever accepted cash? You would make a great addition to team Pittsburgh.

I pretty sure it's the same as any other PDGA event. Have you ever accepted cash?



KP....I don't think "accepting cash" has anything to do with pro vs am nowadays. Player rating is now the determining factor for PDGA events. That's not to say, however, there could be additional restrictions pertaining to divisional status at the Cup. A good question for J Gary....

For the Can-Am Cup you must be a true am. registered as an am and have never received cash at an event. That is part of the Can-Am cup rules.

Also got an email from Granddaddy today saying that the Women field will now be Women/Grandmasters like it has been before.

So our Pittsburgh Team for now is:

Chris Deitzel
Tim Wright
Lori Merriman
Mike Speaker
Greg Meitus (maybe)
1 more AM

Greg Meitus is playing for Syracuse...soooooo

Josh Smith might play Am 1 for the A-team if allowed. If not, he might be willing to play open on the B-team

A-team
Chris Deitzel
Tim Wright
Mike Speaker
Lori Merriman
AND 2 AMS TO BE DETERMINED

B-team could be

Josh Smith
Josh Arnette - Sid Olcott - Dave Olcott
Mike Hoeg
Mike's lady friend
Chris Hoeg
Josh Charlton (if not on IUP) or any other AM.


THese are just some ideas. If you are interested in playing in the can-am cup, post something here so we can try to get you into a team. The last few years we have picked players by player rating, and might do the same this year. But I want to know who really wants to go.

Chris Deitzel

I'm Going............................................. .................................................. ............To Beat Pittsburgh
:D:D:D

I'm pretty sure that Josh Smith can play for Pittsburgh. From what J Gary said, a team is allowed to have two members from outside their region.

One more thing, Just because I'm playing for Indiana does that mean I can't take a shower in Speakers RV???

I know Josh can play, but I'm not sure if he can play as an am or not???

And as for the RV, I do believe that is team PIttsburgh's RV along with Pittsburgh's CABIN


lol


actually, I don't know if Speaker will be bringing his RV this year from what I have heard, and of course ANYONE can come into the cabin as long as they don't take my spot on the loft. Women preferred.

And J Gary....Don't feel bad. NO WORRIES. I am 100% for you playing with IUP. It's a good thing no matter how you look at it.

So who else wants to play??

Tom Moeller
Mike Moeller
Curtis Spence
Matt Miao
KB Clark
Josh Arnette
Matt McMillan


............................lets get 2 or 3 teams again.

I am trying to get the OK to bring the RV - as for it being team Pittsburgh RV, I don't know (it's actually mom & dads). As for whether team Indiana will get a shower-the verdict is still out - We may run into a water shortage.

I'll bring you a replacement battery for the Flash Flight!!! :D

I would fill one of the AM spots on a Pittsburgh team. I had an awesome time last year and would love to go back!

Dave Kuhrt

How about a Schenley team?

Josh Arnette (O)
Matt Miao (O)
Scott Heintzleman (M)
Brian Grace (A)
Dave Kuhrt (A)
Teresa Steigerwald (W)

Other players to encourage to come out and play:

Craig McCloud
Rex Trimm
Mark Prestopnick
Scott Huffman
Will Trask
Keith Hernandex
Christine Arroyo
Eric Bonazza
Corey Diab
Sean R. Malone


We could have 4 teams from Western PA!

My wife Kristen is also interested in going to Can-Am. She is currently trying to get the weekend off from work.

OK, the first Pittsburgh team is formed, and we are trying to get the North Country Brewery to sponsor us as well as donate a keg to the event. If they do sponsor us, I believe our team will be either The Stinky Hippies or Wee Heavy Imps (names of 2 of their beers)

Team is

Chris Deitzel
Tim Wright
Lori Merriman
Mike Speaker
Jason Gibson
Joe McLaughlin.

Jason and Joe are both NCB employees which will make getting sponsored easily and both played in the Ironwood Open. They loved the idea, and I figured I would try to bring some new players to the event.

I am also willing to help put together a second team if anyone would like. I believe I can get a girl for the team as well. If anyone wants to get a team together, send me a PM, call me or post here and we can get another team together for sure.

Indiana Team is set:

J. Gary Dropcho
Kurt Poole
Alanna Poole
James Thompson
Marcus Ranii Dropcho
Michael Dropcho

There are easily enough players for two more teams. Talked to more than 6 people today, including two women, from Schenley who are interested.

If desired, I could do shirts for the teams, but then teams may want to do their own thing.

Pittsburgh TEAM slightly revised as one person would not be able to make that weekend.

The official team is:

Chris Deitzel - Pro 1
Tim Wright - Pro 2
Mike Speaker - Master
Lori Merriman - Women
Josh Smith (WV) - Am 1
Jason Gibson - AM 2

I believe we have put together the strongest possible team that we could with this roster. SOrry if I left anyone out of the event. I would love to help get together a second team as well if anyone wants any help.

OK.....B-team

I just spoke with KB and he wants to play.


So if Josh Charlton will be the captain

Team B could be

Pro - KB
Pro 2 - Tom Moeller
Master - Mike Hoeg
Women - Mikes lady friend
Am 1 - Josh Charlton
Am 2 - Dave Kuhrt


That is all just theory, but for sure team 2 should have Charlton and KB. As well as Dave Kuhrt who has said he wants to play for sure. The rest of the team is up in the air. PM if seriously interested in playing in the cup.

as far as Team2 goes, after VERY brief discussions late yesterday, I've decided that I would love to captain a team and desperately want to get it together asap.

I have three definites so far after the ten minutes of converstaion yesterday....

Pro - KB
AM1 - myself
AM2 - Matty McMillan

I have a phone call list for after work today. hopefully with a few calls the team will be solidified.

Stella.

Tournament Schedule

Saturday, September 6th
8:00am - Mandatory Captains Meeting
Players meeting - 8:30am / tee off - 9:00am sharp!
golf / Floating Lunch / golf
Pig Roast

Sunday, September 7th
Players meeting - 8:30am / tee off - 9:00am sharp!
27 holes / Floating Lunch / Final 9 for top four teams

Team Roster Requirements
6 person teams (a team can actually bring between 0 & 4 pros)
2 open (pro/am)
1 master (pro/am)
1 grandmaster/woman (pro/am)
2 amateurs - *NOTE - ams must be true ams, not a pro with a low rating
*All non-PDGA members - $10.00

Team Residency Requirements
A team must consist of a minimum 4 people from the geographic area that's being represented.

Cost is $330.00 US for each team (or $55 per player)

The Format (if we have more than 10 teams we will have to play more rounds on Sat)

Saturday:
Like last year, we will break up into divisions, then split into foursomes. These foursomes go out and play three 9 hole matches during the first round of play.

Player A plays Player B and Player C plays Player D for the first nine holes. Then A plays C, B plays D in the second nine hole match. The first round continues with A playing D and B playing C. (thus, you play everyone else on your card once)

Toward the end of these 27 holes stop and grab a quick lunch as you pass the clubhouse.

Same format for the afternoon.

Then we party at the camp site. Pig Roast, bonfire, live music, putting contest, swimming, whatever.

Sunday: Same as Saturday morning... After each team has have played all of the other teams in the field, match points are added up, and the top two teams play each other head to head in a 9 hole match to award Gold and Silver medals. The third and fourth place teams play off for the Bronze and Copper.

Awards, pictures and we go home.

Tournament Point system
The format has been match play from the beginning. One point is at stake in each match -- For example, Open player #1 from Team A plays Open player #1 from Team B in a nine hole match. The player with the most holes won is the winner of the match, and earns a match point for his/her team. Ties in the match earns both players' teams 1/2 point.

An accumulated match points system is used. All players (an am Master playing a pro Master for example) must play the same course, and that the points accrued by teams in the preliminary rounds are used to set the seeding for the medal round, but do not carry over into the medal matches. The top two teams from the preliminary rounds play for the gold medal, the third and fourth place teams after the preliminary rounds play for the bronze.

We use the match points system to determine the medal round seeding because it makes every match played equally important.

I'm interested if any spots are available. I could also be an alternate, but if I am an alternate, I wouldn't be able to commit 100% to be available without some advance notice. If anyone is interested in coming up to Erie Fri night and staying at my place, you're more than welcome to... only a ~45 min trip out to Fredonia. I have limited sleeping inside, but a big yard for tents. Let me know. Jay

Nice Josh. I'm glad that your gonna captain a team, and it's great to see Matt and KB playing on the team. You have a lot of options with KB on the team as for who plays what. Jason would be a good open player as well up there at the cup. I have a feeling there might be a lot of teams there this year.

Also me, Lori and Gibby are headed up to Browns Farm on the 20th and 21st if anyone is interested in going up there to practice the course.

Can-Am cup just got a little bit better this year. The North Country Brewery www.northcountrybrewing.com (http://www.northcountrybrewing.com) has come forward as a sponsor of the event. They will be providing beer for the pig roast on Saturday night. A huge thanks to them for being so kind and supporting what has been one of my favorite events over the past few years.

They are also the sponsors of Team Pittsburgh this year and are covering our entry fees into the event. Thanks Bob!!!

Here is our confirmed North Country Brewing Company team for 2008.

Chris Deitzel - Pro 1
Tim Wright - Pro 2
Mike Speaker - Master
Lori Merriman - Women
Josh Smith - Amateur 1
Jason Gibson - Amateur 2

Josh what is going on with your team? I have a good am player for you guys if you need one. You really need to get a team to come. Let me know if you need any help getting some players.

I have the following (remember, KB can play anywhere, but he/I want him as grandmaster)

GM - KB
AM1 - Matt McMillan
AM2 - Me

NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO PLAY?!?!?!?!????????

I NEED:
2 Open
1 Master

someone help me out. who wants to play? Remember, KB will play wherever, IF HE HAS TO, so if you want to go to the Can-AM Cup let me know stat or there wont be a second team, and nobody wants that.

Stella.
412.418.7803 (after 5pm weekdays)
jmc2442@yahoo.com

Don't forget your pros don't really have to be pros. All you really need to do is find a good master. What about Scott Heintzelman or Red, or Tom Moeller, or Carl VEsch, or Curtis Spence? Those would all be good players.

If I were you I would get Curtis, Tom and Carl if possible. That would be a solid team. If you are having problems finding players, I will make some calls for you.

You need to come.

Tom - verified NO
Red - hasnt called me back after two messages
Curtis - said NO to KB
I dont even know Carl V.
Scott - said NO due to family, etc.

I've gone through A LOT of peeps. I cant find anyone.

Josh Arnette is the only one I MAY have lined up... he hasnt said for sure yet, but I know he wanted to. has to see what he can do at work. Im not counting my chickens.

so, in other words, I need help here.

ok, I will call Carl tomorrow. He is a good player who has played in at least 3 can-am cups. My buddy Harold will play. He's pretty good. He would play pro if he had to.

I'll make some calls tonight.

Josh, are you still trying to fill spots? I have heard from a bunch of people who are interested in going.

Dave, are you putting together a Schenley team??

Josh, are you still trying to fill spots? I have heard from a bunch of people who are interested in going.



yes, the ones listed above.

I will talk to my peeps today and give you a call tonight

Wow, I was starting to feel really stupid for how much difficulty I had signing up for this message board.

Anyway, I am very interested in playing in the Can-Am Cup. Obviously I would have to be a "woman" (I play [somewhat poorly] at Schenley, for those of you I have never met). For the record, because I'm nice like that, Brian Grace and Mark Prestopnik (both also from Schenley), are also interested in playing. I think that perhaps Brian has already been added to a roster involving Dave Kuhrt...

I don't know, I just hear these rumors and have no idea what's going on. :)

As of today, "Team 2" as they are being called, is not going to be going to Can-Am with Stella as the captain.

1. I cant get a whole team together and I know I've tried

2. I now have a LUCRATIVE offer for Vegas that week that is not getting passed up.

Someone else able to get a team, good luck.
I now know KB and Matt McMillan are available as those are the only two I had as positives.

best of luck to all that go. it'll be a blast.

You should still come and caddy for me... :D:D:D

did you not see the "LUCRATIVE offer for Vegas that week" section?!?

sorry buddy.

not just a blast, but the best disc golf tournament of the year.

Guess I have to get the second team together?

So I heard about the North Country Brew Pub giving Pittsburgh A team a keg...It better be Stinky Hippie.

And is the consumption of this keg only allowed by Pittsburgh A team? Six people on one keg will be quite a challenge. I think, if I'm allowed, I could help.

OK B-team................

Teresa do you want to play?

Here is what I have got together if Teresa will play

Teresa - Women
KB Clark - Masters
Viper - Open 2
Zack Zimmell - Open 1
Matt McMillan - Am 1
Harold Hokanson - Am 2



We just got back from Browns Farm and I took Gibby, Lori and Harold up to play with me. Gibby aced hole 11!!! Everyone had such a blast. Harold wants to play real bad.


So, if Teresa will commit to playing on the B-team I think the team is formed.


As for the brewery beer, it is for everyone the night of the pigroast. Probably not Hippie, though it did just get tapped this week.

In the void left by Stella's withdrawal, I took the initiative to get confirmations from these players who will be going to the CanAm Cup as a second team from Pittsburgh:


Keith Clark
Brian Grace
Matt McMillen
Mark Prestopnick
Curtis Spence
Teresa Steigerwald

All of these players confirmed to me personally that they will play. I am sending the team's entry fee to Grandaddy and doing shirts for the team.
Team name and roster positions will be decided upon this weekend at Ace Race.

If there are others who want to play, perhaps another team can be formed. All it takes is someone to take the lead.

J. Gary

Well there are still more players who want to play.

I have Viper and Harold. Anyone else interested in a C-team. Need someone over 40 and a women to make the team

Anyone?

Sorry, fell out of the discussion while I was lost in the woods for a few days (yay for family vacation). My sister expressed interest in playing... I'm waiting to hear if she might be interested in the third team women's spot.

Hey this is Ross Schweitzer. I only see one am listed above. So if you guys need a another AM I'd really like to play.
I told Matt McMillian a few times that i wanted to play he has my number if you need to get ahold of me.Just let me know.

Looking forward to representing Pittsburgh disc golf in this event. Is there a website out there from the group running the event, with any more information?

Actually, I think I found the website....this looks cool!

http://www.chainbiters.com/cuphome.html

www.canamdiscgolf.org (http://www.canamdiscgolf.org) and www.chainbiters.com (http://www.chainbiters.com)

How many teams are competing in the event this year?

Right now there are ten teams signed up. Indiana, Pittsburgh A and B team will represent the Steeler Nation.

Some of the North Country Brewing Team will arrive at Granddaddy's tomorrow. I am baking some blueberry pies as I type this for the event, since some of the "pie ladies" are no longer with us. Also making some blueberry muffins for Saturday morning. Once this pie bakes, I'm off to the blueberry patch to pick some more.

It's pretty cool to see North Country Brewing's website linked on the Can Am Cups website. SWEET.

So is the keg Stinky Hippie?

Well in about one hour and fifteen minutes I'm off to Brown's Farm for a weekend of redemption. Last year I was 3-4-2. Hopefully I can do better than that.

Kurt Poole called me last night.....said it was a long Saturday as they started at 9 am and didn't finish 'til 7:30 pm! Ouch...

Currently waiting to hear the end results of the tournament......Ohio and IDLA made it to the finals. Go IDLA! :)

It's official.....the Can-Am Cup is headed to Ohio.

Nice shooting Matty M and Brian for team Whatisit? They stepped up and played with the pros and won quite a few points. Matt M even stomped over Timmy with a 5-2 win I believe.

Good shooting everyone. One of the best years yet at the CUP.

And now be on the lookout for the Brewers Cup.

It appears that NCBC was slighted 2 points in the final calculations. This means that our team would have finished in 4th place and been in the medal round.

Here are our scores.

NAME-------------wins----loss----tie------------points
Chris Deitzel 4-2-3------5.5
Tim Wright 2-6-1--------2.5
Lori Merriman 2-6-1--------2.5
Mike Speaker 4-1-4------6
Josh Smith 5-3-1---------5.5
Jason Gibson 6-2-1---------6.5

For a total of 28.5 Chainbiters had 28 points. They had only awarded us 26.5. So???????????????? Now what?

Wow...After 81 holes of disc golf and this happens. Have you contacted Granddaddy?

Sorry about not securing the cabin for next yar. It was a tight battle in the finals. J Gar and myself lost by one. It came down to the last hole for me. I was tied going into #9 and blew it. J Thompson and Marcus split their rounds and Alanna won on the last hole of hers. Michael D. had some tough competition against Barbo in the finals.

It was so amazing to me that we made the finals as a team in our first year together.

Congrats is in order for my fellow teammates and the other Yinzers that supported us.

Trying to get in touch with granddaddy. I think the scores definitely need to be checked for every team. I am sure that we had 28.5. And if Chainbiters did move ahead, they would have had to at least get 11 points on Sunday to tie us, perhaps more because Ohio 2 was in 5th at 17.5 and we had 19 after Saturday. So Chainbiters had less than 17.5 meaning they would have had to win at least 11 of the 18 points on Sunday to just tie us. And that is if they were tied with Ohio 2 after day 1, but I thought Chainbiters was in 7th after day 1. So????? I'm thinkin we got screwed.

I'm Going............................................. .................................................. ............To Beat Pittsburgh
:D:D:D



Yeah ^^^ That happened!!!

What was the head to head competition between IDLA and NCBC.

Gibby beat me...
Chris beat J Gary...
Speaker beat Michael D...

Alanna beat Lori...
J Thompson beat Tim...

The only one I don't know is Marcus vs. Josh Smith

I'm pretty sure I overheard the guy collecting scorecards say that Chainbiters scored 12 points on Sunday. I know that Amanda won all three of her Sunday rounds. But it's possible there were scorecard shenanigans. I know one of the women I played never turned in the scorecard for a round I won (presumably an accident, but it caused much confusion).

In Whatisit world, we had a lot of fun and finished 7th out of 10.

Marcus won.

3-3 VS IDLA.

Does anyone know who Chainbiters played on Sunday? They played us and who else? Basically they would have had to get 8.5 out of the other possible 12 points from the other 2 rounds. Trying to figure out who they played.

Next year, SUPERTEAM lol I got some ideas.

Next year, SUPERTEAM lol I got some ideas.

Even if Chainbiters scored 12 points on Sunday, that would have put them at 28.5 points with us. So.....we need to figure out what is going on.

So there are possibly a few scorecards wrong. I hope that the results are all correct but there are for sure some total points that are wrong. Perhaps for more than 1 team. I would just like to see all of the correct totals.

SUPERTEAM...Just like the FIFO's did the night before the event. :D:D:D

chainbiters played rochester on Sunday I know for sure.

Our score was wrong, but we still lost to Chainbiters by 1/2 a point. ARRRGGGHHH. All I had to do was tie Eric in that round and we would have made it. Arrrgggh. I had him, and then gave up points on 2 of the last 3 holes. Well the last hole he parked to win, but the other hole was a dumb mistake. They would have had 1/2 point less and 1/2 point more. Would have moved us 1/2 point ahead of them. Oh well. Next year. Our team played pretty solid overall. We were only 2 points out of 3rd, and just behind IDLA. I'm already putting together my team for next year.

Are you looking for a masters or open player?

Are you looking for a masters or open player?



What are you thinking Goocher... I thought you couldn't handle 81 holes of Discgolf in two days. :D

not sure yet.....

I actually was almost positive of Chainbiters score. Back nine and Amanda is alot to take for the 10 th round in 2 days. I counted their score 2 times to make sure. So- rex will make the corrections for the records?

Team IDLA

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