Jun 11 2008, 11:47 PM
I think this is my first post.

I have always wondered if there is a such thing as a curve of forgiveness (for lack of a better term). What I mean by that is, I consider the strong fade left from a stable disc to be very similar to a hook a bowler uses to maintain a reliable point of impact on the pins. This is the opposite of the way your average 8th grader throws a house bowling ball straight down the lane hoping it hits the center. I sometimes I think that an understable putter would have the same type of effect or lack of effect on getting in the cage. I feel that subtle changes or miscalculations upon release of a stable putter would not be as affected...as the same subtle changes and miscalculations upon release with an understable putter. Its hard to explain the way I envison it in my head, but maybe someone else out there has some insight on this paradox.

BTW: I'll do a poll on what you throw. Stable or Understable

Jun 12 2008, 02:35 AM
I understand what you're saying and it makes some sense to me. I've been contemplating switching to a more stable/firmer putter than I currently use, and might after Amateur Nationals. As of right now though I voted understable. I use a beat up Aviar Putt & Approach as my primary putter. It flies straight into the chains for me with pretty solid reliability. But really, as a straight putter that uses a fairly decent amount of spin with minor pitch I don't think a switch would affect me a ton. When fooling around with friends I've managed to putt with the same effectiveness with a Rhyno, Wizard, Challenger, and Aviar.

But I am beginning to think that using the beat Aviar is causing some unnecessary squirreliness, we'll see how it works out if/when I switch it up for the first time since 2005 (during that year I probably went through six different molds, oh to be a newb again).


Jun 12 2008, 02:53 AM
I think it is more a matter of putting style than anything else. My friend Colin uses a beat aviar to putt with and is a very consistent putter. I use a star classic roc that is very stable and have had much success since switching to it last season. I think that straightness in putting is more desirable than a hook/fading motion into the basket. As long as the line is accurate there is more leniency towards short or too hard putts. If I am relying on the disc to fade at the right moment I have to have good line and distance control. Just my thoughts...

Jun 12 2008, 09:41 AM
The hardest shot is ball golf (ask any really good player) is the dead straight shot. Same in disc golf. If you can eliminate half the trouble (missed-to-the-right shots) why not do it? Although it may actually be bad for their technique (learning to throw a disc straight...and thus controlling it fully), newbies gravitate toward "too overstable a disc" (when they first start out) almost sub-consciously I think because of this fact - that they can eliminate the right side trouble. Play your hyzer putt...but eventually learn to also putt straight / anhy.


Jun 12 2008, 09:59 AM
I hyser-putt with a stable putter. That is what works best for me.

Jun 12 2008, 10:10 PM
I wish it was that simple ...
I don't know very many disc golfers who carry one putter. Most will have an overstable, stable and understable putter in their bag. They may not use them all the time ... but they are there just in case.
Putting uphill is easier with an understable putter, and if you need to throw a putter drive or approach shot, it's nice to have a putter that turns over easy. Same goes for driving with an overstable putter, sometimes you don't want them to flip.
If all you use your putter for is putting inside 10 meters then it doesn't matter.

Jun 12 2008, 11:33 PM
I personally stable to overstable putters because I can putt more speed on them, and use them as short range drivers if need be for those 300ft and under shots. I love to use the Wizard for windy putts and short hyzer drives, and the Warlock as my dead straight main putter and short drives as well. But the best advantage I see of an understable putter is the loooong jump putt. When I need the disc to S curve then I'll pull out the Magic. It's understable enough to turn but also come back at the very end of its flight. Understable putters also tend to have more glide IMO and are great for uphill approaches. The only downside is that understable putters are a tad bit unpredictable, and if you throw it with too much power it might turn to much and you'll overshoot the basket. Each has its benefits, but at the end of the day I'll take a stable putter with me to the course.

Jun 13 2008, 11:13 AM
I wish it was that simple ...
I don't know very many disc golfers who carry one putter. ...

Stable putter with hyser when running for the chains in open situations, just to clarify.

I carry 3 total, 1 slightly-overstable, 1 understable and 1 neutral. One does need to be able to putt a variety of ways when navigating the fine wooded courses here in VA.

Jun 13 2008, 01:23 PM
The hardest shot is ball golf (ask any really good player) is the dead straight shot. Same in disc golf.

While this is true, there's still quite a bit of difference in the two types of golf. In disc golf, you can let the disc do the work. You don't have to change your swing like you must in ball golf to draw(hyzer), fade(anhyzer), or hit the straight ball.

Inside of 50-60 feet i prefer a less stable disc, high spin, mostly flat attack. Outside of that range i simply change to a more overstable putter, throw the same shot, but aim a tad outside of the target hoping for "the hook" . Becoming consistent in DG is all about playing the highest percentage, most probable shots.

Every type of putting techniques have won World titles whether it be spin putting, push putting, , hyzer putting, anhyzer putting, etc. That being said, both understable and overstable discs hold the same World titles.

PS. I was REALLY hoping to see Stokely's duck flap putt win a World single's championship. At least he won a few World doubles titles. :D

Big E
Jun 13 2008, 02:40 PM
PS. I was REALLY hoping to see Stokely's duck flap putt win a World single's championship. At least he won a few World doubles titles. :D

What is that?

Jun 14 2008, 04:25 PM
I carry a new Discraft Banger-GT in Pro-D - This is my main putter. I also carry a Discraft Soft Banger-GT - This I use for short (15-20 ft) putts where I need to go at the chains hard and don't want to take the risk of my main putter being spit-out.

I also carry a slightly used Banger-GT in Pro-D for short drives and upshots within 250ft.

Jun 15 2008, 09:16 AM
1 S Wizard, 1 SS Wizard and 2 Beadless Aviars, so 2 Stables, and 2 understables. Will drive or put with either depending on the hole.

Jun 17 2008, 12:23 PM
mainly putt with a med warlock. drive/upshoot with med wizard short approach/touch shots med magic also have been putting with a soft wizard as well for windy days.

Jun 17 2008, 01:36 PM
I just made the switch from 10x aviars to Challengers. i used wizards for about 3 monthes in he middle. I use Cam Todd Challengers, but have just fund some super siff Pro Ds that feel even better than my CTs. Stiff Challengers are the closest thing Ive found to 10xs. 10x's got up in the 40&50 dollar range so i started looking fo an alternative. The CT's are about 30, but i go lucky and got 4 cheap right off the bat.

i like overstable putters for the consistancy of the flight and if you throw them, they turn into reliable understable putters. I also like stiff puters for the consistant release. I like them with a super stiff rim and a ittle give in the flight plate.

Jun 25 2008, 08:17 PM
I throw very understable putters. It allows me to throw right at the basket. I find aiming at your target is much easier than guessing what the disc is going to do.

Jun 26 2008, 12:41 AM
I second that, understable putters fly straighter longer. And with a flat clean release in head wind it'll cruise right in the chains.

Jun 26 2008, 12:48 PM
i like stable to overstable.

Jun 26 2008, 04:40 PM
I like putters that start stable and beat in to straight fliers. The problem is beating up Wizards enough so that they become straight putters... I just need someone to take my stack of Wizards and throw them gently at the wall over and over and over and over...

Jun 26 2008, 05:04 PM
put them in the dryer with a towel or 2.

Jun 27 2008, 01:15 AM
Take all your putters and play a few rounds throwing putters only, it's great for your form since putters don't lie.