rromeo
Jan 27 2008, 05:53 PM
There is plenty info on long distance driving etc. I am interested in learning how to throw approach shots with deadly accuracy. Does anyone have any drills or secrets to help achieve my goal?

Thanks!

MTL21676
Jan 27 2008, 07:47 PM
I throw annys for approaches when I have the opportunity too from like 60 - 120 feet. I would much rather have control of when the disc turned rather than depending on it to turn.

I have found I have incredible distance control with this ( I fluffed a lot of hyzer approaches) and randomly throw stuff in a lot more now.

grateful24655
Jan 27 2008, 09:26 PM
come down to greenville, nc and talk to a guy named pymgy. he'll show you what you need to do.

MTL21676
Jan 27 2008, 09:29 PM
yes, pygmy throws in more approaches than I think anyone I've ever seen.

However, I hear Glenry from Virginia was better at it.

mikeP
Jan 28 2008, 10:20 AM
There is plenty info on long distance driving etc. I am interested in learning how to throw approach shots with deadly accuracy. Does anyone have any drills or secrets to help achieve my goal?

Thanks!



I see good players approaching this part of the game from 2 different angles. For accurate short shots you must somehow slow down from what you do when you throw farther. Some players use their normal form and slow it down or stay more square to the target (less body rotation/reach back). I find this difficult, probably due to my long arms and my natural desire to pull fast through the snap. I adjust by throwing from a stationary position whenever comfortable. For me this is from about 260' and in. From 260' I am pulling the disc through and snapping my wrist the same as I would for a 400' shot, without the run-up and rotation. This SEVERELY limits my ability to shank hard left or right. This by no means makes me mistake-proof, but it assures than my 2nd shot is more manageable and has really cut down on my 4's and 5's on more technical courses.

johnbiscoe
Jan 28 2008, 02:00 PM
1. learn to use round edged discs if you're not already
2. practice
3. practice
4. practice some more.

glenry does throw more of them in.

mikeP
Jan 28 2008, 03:33 PM
1. learn to use round edged discs if you're not already
2. practice
3. practice
4. practice some more.

glenry does throw more of them in.



Skills do not improve by practicing things incorrectly.

johnbiscoe
Jan 28 2008, 03:38 PM
sure they do.

davidbihl
Jan 28 2008, 03:41 PM
Keep the disc parallel with your forearm and focus on throwing the disc flat (parallel with the earth)

Sharky
Jan 28 2008, 04:26 PM
Hey hey rick, I just found this on another area of this site. Good info!

link (http://www.pdga.com/msgboard/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=786109&Main=786109#Post7 86109)

dannyreeves
Jan 29 2008, 12:40 PM
I think the most important thing is how you shift the weight of your body during the throw. Whether you are throwing a tee-shot or a short approach, always imagine the flightpath you want the disc to take and follow through on that line. Always step through the shot - even short ones. It really helps me hit my lines when I have to turn my back from the target too.

Hope that helps.

twoputtok
Jan 29 2008, 04:26 PM
Reeves, are you sure you need to be giving advice on accuracy? :o:D

dannyreeves
Jan 29 2008, 04:51 PM
Yes. I have amazing drives. Actually, I am consistantly playing the best golf I ever have.

MrJB
Jan 29 2008, 07:50 PM
One practice routine I have tried might help. Bring some kind of markers, water bottles will work fine, to your local football practice field and put them down one sideline every 10, 15, or 20 yards. Then from the end of the field, just try to land as close as possible to each one. You can try annys, hyzers, putters, mids, drivers, all variations, but I like to try to keep the disc over the line the whole time with an understable putter or mid if I can. It forces you to vary the spin to keep the disc flying straight the entire flight. I find that it's great practice and it really helps me get an idea of how far I can throw accurately with each disc. Which is really important when you putt like I do... /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Give it a try and let me know how it works. ;)

JB

Greg_R
Jan 29 2008, 08:59 PM
Develop a throw that minimizes variables (just like putting). This is why you'll see many pros jump putting from inside 100ft... there is a lot less to screw up. IMO, a flat throw has a good chance of blowing by the basket if perfect touch is not used. You want to throw something that will die right at the basket and not roll away. Find 1 disc (putter or round midrange) and see what you have the most control with (hyzer, anny-stall, jump putt, etc.).

The best drill for approach shots is playing catch with a friend (see if you can hit them w/o them moving). If you don't have a friend you can throw to various targets. Throw a few in a row to each target to develop some muscle memory but end your practice by picking and hitting random targets.

grateful24655
Feb 01 2008, 03:10 AM
i would say that throwing with a friend does help. that's how is first started throwing frisbee. before every round i usually toss around a fastback or 130 roc to "dial up". i think it really helps build confidence in all areas of your game, especially approaches. it can be fun fo sho!

boredatwork
Feb 01 2008, 04:54 PM
Also use your body to aim for your shots so that you are paying attention to the angle of your shoulders while approaching the throw. Once you develop a good habit of aiming with your body you won't have to think about it any more and you can focus on the feel of throwing your line or to your target. Also part of aiming with your body is aiming with your walkup, get those angles right and it will start to get easier and more natural

zero_43502
Mar 05 2008, 02:20 PM
I made a huge improvement after watching a this video http://www.discgolftv.com/dgtv/10/wmv/channel/6?page=1
it took a while but i slowed everything down and found i was much more accurate in every part of my game .
also if you dont have one i used a innova gator that helped me learn not to overshoot the basket

jlmeier
Mar 08 2008, 02:12 AM
I was throwing back and forth with Ron Russell a few months ago we were about 175-200ft apart and his throws were hitting me right in the chest and were so soft. Amazing

mikeP
Mar 10 2008, 10:37 AM
I was throwing back and forth with Ron Russell a few months ago we were about 175-200ft apart and his throws were hitting me right in the chest and were so soft. Amazing



...and he probably wasn't even looking at you. ;)

jlmeier
Mar 10 2008, 10:29 PM
I was throwing back and forth with Ron Russell a few months ago we were about 175-200ft apart and his throws were hitting me right in the chest and were so soft. Amazing



...and he probably wasn't even looking at you. ;)



LMAO

tcdiscgolfer
Mar 11 2008, 12:34 AM
When I make an upshot I usually use either a coyote or a qms. I also stand flat footed as if I were going to make a flat footed drive and pull back and come across my chest. One more thing if you don't throw it hard enough to get it in the basket you never gave it a chance to get in. Those are the words of a local pro of 15 yrs. I also like to throw an ultimate disc with a friend before rounds to dial in my upshot approaches

MikeMC
Mar 19 2008, 05:45 PM
When you practice, do throwing exercises where you not only try to get the line correct (aim) but also the distance (force). You get one of the two correct and you're in good shape. For example, if your throw is 10 feet to the right of the basket but the distance is perfect, you have a 10 foot putt. Generally, once I'm within 200', my approach shot will be within 10 - 15 feet of the basket 90% of the time.

dtwo
Apr 04 2008, 12:17 PM
I just noticed this post last night, so I thought I would offer my .02 cents.

1) Disc selection is important. Use an Avair/Wizard over a Roc/Buzzz when you can, they fade less at slower speeds. However, I also now use the Cro when I need a good Hyzer.

2) Learn the distance where you can look at the target or the point where you are trying to aim, and make a complete throwing motion. I can only do that at ~100', they say Climo can do it to 300'!

3) Over ~100' I need to turn my head away from the shot to get enough power, and I am clearly less accurate. IMHO ... then it is just practice, practice, practice ...

4) Craig G's advice is just envision the shot out of your hand, and forget about the rest of it. If it leaves your hand and starts the first 20' of flight path correctly, then it will fly the rest of the way like you envisioned.

5) There are some approach shots that really require a forehand! #12 at Patapsco is a great example of that. A forehand that is half as good as your backhand would still leave you closer to the pin more often on that hole!

rickhemmings
May 13 2008, 01:01 AM
Back in my frisbee throw and catch days, I learned how to throw a high straight shot at my partner and have it float straight down to him/ her. This can be an effective upshot technique with the correct disc and very accurate in low wind situations. I use a disc which has as little fade as possible and throw with a tiny amount of anhyzer, then it will float straight down. Depending on distance to the basket, this throw will fly 10 to 20 feet high. Comets can do this shot very well, so can APX's.
The other throw that can be very accurate and consistent is a spike hyzer. If you throw high enough, the disc will either stop dead in it's tracks when it hits, or will roll a very short distance, maybe 5' on levelish ground. There are 2 discs which are perfect for this throw if used for an approach within around 200 feet. Both are super stable and have serious low speed fade, so they really come in angled and stop where they hit. The monster and the whippet x. The monster flies longer, but it's not very long. Use max weight to minimize wind interference. Your hyzer release angle is not all that critical, as these discs will assume their over stable fade regardless of wind direction, if thrown less than roughly 200 feet. Just make sure to throw them high and wide. Once you get it down, you will rarely miss your mark by much, and you will not float on pass the basket which is more likely with other styles of upshot. disclaimer alert: Of course other discs can make these shots, the ones I mentioned though, do work extremely well when used as directed :cool:

Znash
May 13 2008, 11:43 AM
understable disc, with low power is the best way to put it under the basket (if it's not windy)(100ft and out)
100-40ft learn a jump putt
and 40ft and closer stand still and put it in the hole.

The best advice is to try and use the same motion as your tee shot just slow down and use disc with more glide and less speed, my control disc are beat aviars and chalengers, rocs in all stages, and lepeards.

boredatwork
May 13 2008, 02:00 PM
Focusing on putting more spin on the disc will allow it to travel further with less forward momentum. A striking example of using spin to get you there slowly is shown on the recently posted video on www.discgolftv.com (http://www.discgolftv.com) at the Evergreen Open 2007. Watch Rico and McIntee as they tee off on the really short 7th hole of the final 18. it is about a 150 foot uphill shot. Rico makes it look like he throws really hard because his body moves a lot, but the disc comes out slow from his hand! That is because he and McIntee are putting tremendous spin on the disc that allow it to float more and settle in to the basket on a precarious slope.