Heres a new thread for the 2008 rookies of the year.

I watched Paul McBeth play a few holes with Nikko practicing at Players cup and he is goingto be a really solid player/
Hopefully he can get out to the mid west and play some tight wooded courses.

Will Shustrick has a really big arm and a great putt. Being from Tennessee, he should be able to hit quite a few events over the year.

Theres a Florida Player named Lenny Gomez that has a lot of potential, if he can get up north he may have a shot!

I'm pulling for Schusterick in 08. Great golfer and all around great kid. Can definitey show us adults some pointers on maturity too.

Ziggy Bierekoven is the top candidate out of the MI, for sure.

The Bagger will be tough! ;)

I will put money on Ziggy right now!!

I will put money on Ziggy right now!!



I got my cash on the kid that is schooling most of the 1000 rated guys he has played..........

huntington beaches own paul mcbeth has defintatly got the rookie of the year award in the bag. i mean he is competing with all the top socal pro <font color="blue"> </font>

huntington beaches own paul mcbeth has defintatly got the rookie of the year award in the bag. i mean he is competing with all the top socal pro <font color="blue"> </font>



I wouldn't go that far because I know Ziggy is a really good player and I'm almost positive there are a few guys I don't know about. Then again Paul has a good chance if you ask me considering he is the guy I said I had my $$$ on. Anyway these guys better put together some hot finishes this year if they expect to win.

Rookie season started a few days ago so it has begun. :D

Ziggy with cash yesterday so he's leading so far!

I am not too aware of the competition out there yet but after watching Paul come into his own over the last couple years I would say he is in contention and at least for now he has my vote!

wooooooooooooooooooooooo 85 dollars

OK Mr 907!!!

OK Mr 907!!!



LOL

Paul is really good according to Nikko and Nikko never says that. :D

I know he's not going Pro yet b/c he's in HS and still wants college elligiblity, but one kid to look out for in the near future is Billy Dunne from NEFAland. I think he's looking to be a PDGA member and play in Worlds in the near future. The kid will give Wiggins a run for his money..I think Billy is 15 or 16..and he's got mad skill.

I know he's not going Pro yet b/c he's in HS and still wants college elligiblity, but one kid to look out for in the near future is Billy Dunne from NEFAland. I think he's looking to be a PDGA member and play in Worlds in the near future. The kid will give Wiggins a run for his money..I think Billy is 15 or 16..and he's got mad skill.



College eligibility? Is the kid going to play sports? If not I moved up and still got scholarships.

I know he's not going Pro yet b/c he's in HS and still wants college elligiblity, but one kid to look out for in the near future is Billy Dunne from NEFAland. I think he's looking to be a PDGA member and play in Worlds in the near future. The kid will give Wiggins a run for his money..I think Billy is 15 or 16..and he's got mad skill.



College eligibility? Is the kid going to play sports? If not I moved up and still got scholarships.


It is possible he simply enjoys another sport and knows he'd want to compete at a higher level. I didn't feel like I'd proven all I could as a 7th (last) man on the varsity Cross Country squad, and decided to run D3 to prove to myself that I could compete at a higher level than I had been. Mind you, I ended up blowing out a knee so it was a bad idea, but it isn't unrealistic to think that he'd want to play another sport at a higher level, regardless of scholarship money. A lot of people do it.


-Chris.

I know he's not going Pro yet b/c he's in HS and still wants college elligiblity, but one kid to look out for in the near future is Billy Dunne from NEFAland. I think he's looking to be a PDGA member and play in Worlds in the near future. The kid will give Wiggins a run for his money..I think Billy is 15 or 16..and he's got mad skill.



College eligibility? Is the kid going to play sports? If not I moved up and still got scholarships.


It is possible he simply enjoys another sport and knows he'd want to compete at a higher level. I didn't feel like I'd proven all I could as a 7th (last) man on the varsity Cross Country squad, and decided to run D3 to prove to myself that I could compete at a higher level than I had been. Mind you, I ended up blowing out a knee so it was a bad idea, but it isn't unrealistic to think that he'd want to play another sport at a higher level, regardless of scholarship money. A lot of people do it.


-Chris.



Woj, I was just asking because if not it shouldn't be a problem.

I know he's not going Pro yet b/c he's in HS and still wants college elligiblity, but one kid to look out for in the near future is Billy Dunne from NEFAland. I think he's looking to be a PDGA member and play in Worlds in the near future. The kid will give Wiggins a run for his money..I think Billy is 15 or 16..and he's got mad skill.



College eligibility? Is the kid going to play sports? If not I moved up and still got scholarships.


It is possible he simply enjoys another sport and knows he'd want to compete at a higher level. I didn't feel like I'd proven all I could as a 7th (last) man on the varsity Cross Country squad, and decided to run D3 to prove to myself that I could compete at a higher level than I had been. Mind you, I ended up blowing out a knee so it was a bad idea, but it isn't unrealistic to think that he'd want to play another sport at a higher level, regardless of scholarship money. A lot of people do it.


-Chris.



Woj, I was just asking because if not it shouldn't be a problem.


Yeah, I got you, I was merely giving a reason he might be interested in playing college sports even if not at a 'scholarship' level. :)

wooooooooooooooooooooooo 85 dollars


Kid played 998.5 rated golf in hideous weather. I'd look at that before looking at his total earnings for the day, which would have been considerably higher had more people been out, which he couldn't control.

wooooooooooooooooooooooo 85 dollars


Kid played 998.5 rated golf in hideous weather. I'd look at that before looking at his total earnings for the day, which would have been considerably higher had more people been out, which he couldn't control.



Why would the weather make his rating for the event more impressive? I t could have possibly booted it because of Geoff shooting poorly. I'm not saying it did but it could have.

Since Am worlds Paul has averaged the following at each event.

1019-2 rounds

1018-3 rounds

974- 3 rounds (one was 920)Ouch

1008-3 rounds

1010-3 rounds

That is pretty good if you ask me averaging 1005 since Am worlds with a BAD tournament.

wooooooooooooooooooooooo 85 dollars


Kid played 998.5 rated golf in hideous weather. I'd look at that before looking at his total earnings for the day, which would have been considerably higher had more people been out, which he couldn't control.



Why would the weather make his rating for the event more impressive? I t could have possibly booted it because of Geoff shooting poorly. I'm not saying it did but it could have.


Weather isn't a factor, the performance of the people around you is, I know this and so do you... my main comment on the situation is that some players lose focus, especially younger ones I'd imagine (in most sports, youth and focus are not hand-in-hand, especially with distractions like horrid weather).

My main point was NOT that it was a spectacular performance, but that he would have made more than $85 had more people been there, he still played very solid golf and it shouldn't be discounted for the low monetary reward.

Since Am worlds Paul has averaged the following at each event.

1019-2 rounds

1018-3 rounds

974- 3 rounds (one was 920)Ouch

1008-3 rounds

1010-3 rounds

That is pretty good if you ask me averaging 1005 since Am worlds with a BAD tournament.


I agree, that IS sick for an incoming rook.

id have to say i was at that bad tournament paul was at and he was sick BAD he could bearly open his eyes and focus

all the players mentioned are great candidates for the award but i still belive ziggy is the front runner. he may not travel as much as everyone else but with worlds in his home state, and the tournament heaven that is michigan i would put my money on ziggy to win ROY hands down. this kid is sick and hes a great ambassidor for the game. he is always willing to help any player looking for advice and always a pleasure to play a round with....

all the players mentioned are great candidates for the award but i still belive ziggy is the front runner. he is always willing to help any player looking for advice and always a pleasure to play a round with....



Except when he starts a round birding 3 or the first 4 holes at hudson mills and then aces the 5th... during a money round

Ziggy going to the Memorial? Schusterick and Paul are on the pre-reg list. Will played pretty well there last year as an Am. ;)

My money is on Will for ROY 2008. :cool:

all the players mentioned are great candidates for the award but i still belive ziggy is the front runner. he may not travel as much as everyone else but with worlds in his home state, and the tournament heaven that is michigan i would put my money on ziggy to win ROY hands down. this kid is sick and hes a great ambassidor for the game. he is always willing to help any player looking for advice and always a pleasure to play a round with....


Except when he's "80 deep"

(seriously, if Ziggy gets rookie of the year, we'd have to stamp a CFR disc with a picture of a disc under a basket with the phrase "I'm 80 deep." on it)

there is a mathmatical formula for ziggy's putts. this is the rough guidlines for it

0'-30' is a tap in
30'-50' is a 10 footer
50'-75' is a 20 footer
75'-100' is a 40 footer
100'+ is outside the circle

at least in his mind it is......

zig will not be at the memorial becuase of school but im fairly certain he will be at the GCC.....he prolly will want me to drive him there.....

there is a mathmatical formula for ziggy's putts. this is the rough guidlines for it

0'-30' is a tap in
30'-50' is a 10 footer
50'-75' is a 20 footer
75'-100' is a 40 footer
100'+ is outside the circle

at least in his mind it is......

zig will not be at the memorial becuase of school but im fairly certain he will be at the GCC.....he prolly will want me to drive him there.....



Dang if I putted like that I would be 1050 so what's his deal?

Whatever happened to the original user named Rooster?

Have not seen him post in a LONG time.

Whatever happened to the original user named Rooster?

Have not seen him post in a LONG time.



No clue I see him at the bigger TX events and in Austin.

Is your rookie year the first year you play a Pro event or the first year you accept cash?

I believe it's the latter.

Run-for-your-Life-Ziggy and 26-feet-Koontz are my favorites for ROY. Both of those guys have had great years and are amazing disc golfers.

For the women, you gotta give it to SS Destroyer, Sarah Stanhope, from South Carolina. She's got a long and accurate forehand and has been taking names across the country in the events she's played, with a whopping 6th place finish at Women's Nationals. I don't think any of the other women except for Nicole Frazier can even stand a chance for ROY.

Whatever happened to the original user named Rooster?

Have not seen him post in a LONG time.



Two chickens enter,
One chicken leaves.

THUNDERDOME.

That pretty much sums it up...

Run-for-your-Life-Ziggy and 26-feet-Koontz are my favorites for ROY. Both of those guys have had great years and are amazing disc golfers.

For the women, you gotta give it to SS Destroyer, Sarah Stanhope, from South Carolina. She's got a long and accurate forehand and has been taking names across the country in the events she's played, with a whopping 6th place finish at Women's Nationals. I don't think any of the other women except for Nicole Frazier can even stand a chance for ROY.




Nicole took 7th at worlds and is ranked like #7 on the women's rankings as well.

ok look everyone needs too get over it what happens this year happens whoever comes out on top comes out on top i say good luck too everyone who is running for roy just have fun with it

ok look everyone needs too get over it what happens this year happens whoever comes out on top comes out on top i say good luck too everyone who is running for roy just have fun with it



In serious need of periods and commas.

Looks like Paul KILLED it this weekend! Ziggy added another cash as well..

WOW!

Not too shabby (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7449&amp;year=2008&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)

ziggy got his first pro win by 12 strokes this weekend!

I must give props to Corey Wisenburg from Jax, Fla. Last week he held the lead against KC for 3 rounds and finshed second, which was the second time in a month he finished second to the Champ!!! Then he follows it up with a WIN in the Seven Hurlers Open the following week. GG was closing in on the 5 stroke lead Corey had but, he held him and Hosfeld off for a solid victory.

I look for this young man to be a force to reckon with for years to come!!!!! Besides his great game, he is a great Role model for my nine year old son. He shows greatness in his ability to share the game with others.

By all means he deserves to be considered!

Corey is good, but will not be considered for 2008 ROY.
(Because he was a rookie in 2007 and he should be nominated for '07)


1089 by Will is nuts. He beat Tannock that round by 20 strokes?!

Well, Nikko Locastro was a rookie in 2006 but was considered in 2007.

its 1089, not 1098, but still, that round by Will was sick!

this tournament decided the AL USDGC rep, so they had the courses roped off to slightly mimic winthrop gold - so lots of OB and plenty of chances to gain/lose strokes

from talk around tournament central, his only blemish was on hole 7, which played as an island hole - maybe deano will comment more as he was able to witness this round

its 1089, not 1098, but still, that round by Will was sick!

this tournament decided the AL USDGC rep, so they had the



I think that what is most impressive about about that tournament is what Lavone Wolfe (#580 - DG Hall of Famer) had to say about Will.
http://kdga.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=clubtalk&amp;action=display&amp;thread=483

Seriously, how many 15 year olds do you know that are good, nay great guys to play with? (How many do you know that don't cheat?)

Also, have you checked the Innova site recently? Will and DW Jr are listed at the top of the news category! I'm a little scared. Now that I am 31 my body gets tired after a round. To make matters worse my ego hurst when I get my arse handed to me by 13, 14 and 15 year olds.

Will makes it three in a row!! (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7346&amp;year=2008&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)

You have to respect anyone winning three tournaments in three weeks.

WOW!

Not too shabby (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7449&amp;year=2008&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)



Will took his third win (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7346) in a row shooting a pair of 1031(unofficially) rated rounds. The competition was stiff too! This kid is on a tear! And it's his sixteenth birthday tomorrow! Happy Birthday Will!

Meanwhile, the only players that were able to complete the Masters Cup in fewer throws than Paul McBeth are named: Steve Rico, Avery Jenkins, David Feldberg, Nate Doss and Ken Climo.

Meanwhile, the only players that were able to complete the Masters Cup in fewer throws than Paul McBeth are named: Steve Rico, Avery Jenkins, David Feldberg, Nate Doss and Ken Climo.



I am sure that Paul is a great guy. Personally, I don't know him but I have not heard anything but good things. Moreover, the guy can obviously play golf.

In fact, all of the guys up for ROY can play. Some I have seen in person, others on DVD, and others still on the web. The reason for my deluge of posts about Will is thus:

-Will went out to CA and played (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7647) against McBeth, Steve and Bamba Rico, Dorius etc. He beat them. From what he told me he was a 30' putt away on his last hole from tying Pelg and forcing playing off. In the days following what did we hear about that? Nothing. We did, however, hear all about the ROY candidates from MI and WI.

-Will is form Knoxville. I don't know if you have been here but this isn't exactly disc golf central. In fact, there is a real disconnect between most of TN when it comes to golf. Without efforts to pump him up on this board Will would get lost in the shuffle and would NOT get the respect he deserves. I don't think that McBeth and others face that same problem. My sense is that NORCAL and SOCAL are strong disc golf areas and that McBeth recieves his dues.

-Finally, Will is a 16 young man with game, poise, and a great attitude. Think about all of the other 16 year olds that you know and with whom you have played. Do the words poise and great attitude even cross your mind? Didn't think so.

That's all. Will is my friend and I just want to make sure that people see what he is doing for golf.

Meanwhile, the only players that were able to complete the Masters Cup in fewer throws than Paul McBeth are named: Steve Rico, Avery Jenkins, David Feldberg, Nate Doss and Ken Climo.



I am sure that Paul is a great guy. Personally, I don't know him but I have not heard anything but good things. Moreover, the guy can obviously play golf.

In fact, all of the guys up for ROY can play. Some I have seen in person, others on DVD, and others still on the web. The reason for my deluge of posts about Will is thus:

-Will went out to CA and played (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7647) against McBeth, Steve and Bamba Rico, Dorius etc. He beat them. From what he told me he was a 30' putt away on his last hole from tying Pelg and forcing playing off. In the days following what did we hear about that? Nothing. We did, however, hear all about the ROY candidates from MI and WI.

-Will is form Knoxville. I don't know if you have been here but this isn't exactly disc golf central. In fact, there is a real disconnect between most of TN when it comes to golf. Without efforts to pump him up on this board Will would get lost in the shuffle and would NOT get the respect he deserves. I don't think that McBeth and others face that same problem. My sense is that NORCAL and SOCAL are strong disc golf areas and that McBeth recieves his dues.

-Finally, Will is a 16 young man with game, poise, and a great attitude. Think about all of the other 16 year olds that you know and with whom you have played. Do the words poise and great attitude even cross your mind? Didn't think so.

That's all. Will is my friend and I just want to make sure that people see what he is doing for golf.




Paul is all of that but a year older.

-Finally, Will is a 16 young man with game, poise, and a great attitude. Think about all of the other 16 year olds that you know and with whom you have played. Do the words poise and great attitude even cross your mind? Didn't think so.



Paul is 17 years old. Poise and great attitude certainly describe him. He is a real down to Earth kid with a phenomenal game. He displays true grace under pressure. A great ambassador for this sport and a fine role model.

No offense to Will at all, I just don't know him and he has impressive stats, but living in Huntington Beach and getting to know the real McBeth, He is the real deal and his attitude is three times more impressive than his game...

My vote will definately be for Mr. McBeth

7,8, 9, TANK.

All I know about Will or Paul is that Will signed his first autograph in 2006 at BG Ams. :) I told a friend of mine it was dumb to get the autograph of some kid that didn't even win Am2.

Shows how much I know.

7,8, 9, TANK.



LOL, That's never gonna be unfunny, SjarD

Ive played with will a few times back in 2005 and even back then he was up and coming. I remember he was throwing Rocs on 350+ holes. A great player and great guy. Will would be my vote.

No offense to Will at all, I just don't know him and he has impressive stats, but living in Huntington Beach and getting to know the real McBeth, He is the real deal and his attitude is three times more impressive than his game...

My vote will definately be for Mr. McBeth



My point exactly.

Look at what's happening...Ken and Suzette are posting about Paul. Two well known and respected names and figures.

Hogger who? (Exactly.)
But my guess is that Ken you've now looked at Will's stats and are more aware of him than ever before.

There just isn't the same disc golf culture here to help keep Will afloat in all of the political mire that is the ROY contest.

If you look back at ROY to 2000 they are from CA, TX, FL, MN, OH. Those are the centers of US Discgolf. Knoxville is not.

I first saw Will play at the '07 Memorial and WOW! I had dinner with him and his dad at the "08 Memorial and WOW! Just an amazing kid all the way around. I first saw Paul play at the "07 Worlds and WOW! I later seen him on the top card of the '08 Memorial and WOW! The fact of the matter is both of these young men are excellent players and excellent representatives for the sport of disc golf. Either one could win ROY and I wouldn't be surprised. But the common denominators of both of these fine athletes are their ages (both under 18) and both signed to the greatest disc golf team in the world. INNOVA BABY! Yeah! Including several other up and coming junior aged stars, like 13 year old David W. and my 9 year old Nick D. Hey Tank, they were talking on another thread about TANKing a round, as if TANKing is a bad thing! Nothing But Chains Baby!

Both are sick golfers with great attitudes. Watchin McBeth at The Memorial was nuts, he really kept his emotions in check after bad shots. Playing with Will a few times this year has been a treat to watch as well. Great attitude and a sick game to go with it.

Needless to say they are the two front runners with 6+ months left in the season. I'm excited to see how it all plays out (still hasn't been a major yet!).

Will is a stud....congrats on the big wins of late, keep it up!

never seen Will play ... I guess this weekend will be a good chance for him to show himself against some big dogs and big/tough courses here in Charlotte @ the Clash

looking forward to seeing him in person

I saw Will play a bit here in Kingsport. Classy young chap put the beatdown on the locals. (it was in his ADV days though). Best of luck to both of these young fellas, it does nothing but help our sport.

no so hot so far in Charlotte.... the true test will be Renny Gold tomorrow... lets see it Will!

Liz Lopez should be a lock for the womens ROY!

She just had a solid finish at the Greater Tulsa Open.

This chick is a stud!

For sure!

Liz Lopez should be a lock for the womens ROY!

She just had a solid finish at the Greater Tulsa Open.

This chick is a stud!



yeah, that's a lock :cool:

Will and McBeth tied after first round of Golden State.

And now tied yet again after round 2 for 6th! Those kids are insane!

Liz Lopez should be a lock for the womens ROY!

She just had a solid finish at the Greater Tulsa Open.

This chick is a stud!



yeah, that's a lock :cool:


And now she's sitting 2nd behind Val after two rounds at the Golden State... I have a feeling she's just adding icing to the Rookie of the Year cake right now.

Go Liz Lopez! She just doesn't stop getting better!

I have a feeling she's just adding icing to the Rookie of the Year cake right now.



I think the cake is alreay in the box just awaiting pick up.

And now tied yet again after round 2 for 6th! Those kids are insane!



Will is good, but Paul should have this locked now...

Quite a few Championship events to play still. Plus, Will posted the third best round rating of all time in the 54-60 SSA range this update.

Pound for pound, Will is 1 year behind Paul...Paul is going to be the youngest World Champion, and US Champion.

until David Wiggins Jr. does it.

Pound for pound, Will is 1 year behind Paul...Paul is going to be the youngest World Champion.



You're assuming that Ken, Barry and Nate will decide to let others in the club.

(edit: because I am an indiot and don't know how to spell)

Paul is going to be the youngest World Champion, and US Champion.



Already missed for Open Worlds by two years with Sam Ferrans winning just before turning 17. USDGC might be easier since Feldberg won it at age 28. However, so far only those born under the sign of Aries have won it and Paul wasn't born then. Climo, Schultz and Feldberg have birthdays within 12 days of each other. (cue Twilight Zone music)

Paul and Will might have strong headstarts but Ziggy Bierekoven went down to Alabama into unfamiliar territory for an A-Tier and played ~1008 golf taking fourth at a Supertour this weekend. He's out of school as of just the other week and focusing on getting out and playing now.

I hope to see all three of them at Worlds to really get some head-to-head-to-head golf results.

Paul is going to be the youngest World Champion, and US Champion.



Already missed for Open Worlds by two years with Sam Ferrans winning just before turning 17.



Modern era stats...

Paul is going to be the youngest World Champion, and US Champion.



USDGC might be easier since Feldberg won it at age 28. However, so far only those born under the sign of Aries have won it and Paul wasn't born then. Climo, Schultz and Feldberg have birthdays within 12 days of each other. (cue Twilight Zone music)



He will do it...Regardless of astrological sign.

Paul is in 6th place in NT points and might even be better after this past weekend. 6th just think about that for a tick.

Modern era stats...


Have to do it by 2010 to beat Nate who was 20 for PW2005.... and happens to be a Taurus like Will...

Played with Paul at the Majestic. Wow! Nice kid with one of the best putts I have ever seen.

I had the pleasure of watching both golfers on their second and third cards together at the GSC. First time I got to watch Will and was very impressed, he has impeccable form and is a nice and reserved guy much like Paul! It is great for the sport to have such wonderful up and comers, whoever ends up winning they both deserve it. For my money though I'm sticking with Paul for ROY, Schustrick's day will come. They tied in the first two rounds and Paul was just two strokes up (64 to 66 from Will) after the final round. Amazing golfers

They tied in the first two rounds



What makes this extra funny in my mind is that Will caught a ride with Paul and his Dad from Denver after the High Plains.

I always find in funny when I have travelled 3 or 4 hours out of state only to end up playing with someone with whom I have either travelled or is also from Knoxville.

How is ROY evaluated. Points, Earnings, Rating?

How is ROY evaluated. Points, Earnings, Rating?



It isn't! Is it based on who all the touring pros and State coordinators and who they vote for. So basically it is based on stats for some people who vote and popularity for others.

...and some consider sportsmanship and some do not.

.....and some consider their relationship to current board members and some do not.

Chuck: (I know you're reading this, you're DISCussion board omniscient) Is there any way the PDGA could get up, in the future, rookie-only statistics? I mean, you can put up numbers for Am Men and Pro Men and such separated, why not break it down to just the rookies? Set it to only competitors that have accepted cash for the first time since the last Worlds show up.

Is it possible?

It's all possible with the new website. It's just a matter of priorities once it gets underway. There's at least a four year backlog of cool ideas that have been waiting for this upgrade. There are many reports we'd like to have done that would be user accessible and/or regularly updated.

Like what Chuck?
Could you give us all a sneak peak into the future? On another thread of course.
Four years of cool ideas...WOW!(not sarcasm)

There are many reports, sorts and filtering of exisiting online data that will finally be accessible for members to manipulate with the new flexibility that was not available before. Examples would be state and division sorts by ranking of ratings or points that haven't been available and much requested. Parts of the website will become "members only" where some of these new reports and information will be available as a benefit of membership. I don't have the IT checklist that Dave maintains so I'm not the best to ask. However, Dave is typically reluctant to say anything until it's close to being available or is actually done.

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Paul is going to be the youngest World Champion, and US Champion.



Already missed for Open Worlds by two years with Sam Ferrans winning just before turning 17. USDGC might be easier since Feldberg won it at age 28. However, so far only those born under the sign of Aries have won it and Paul wasn't born then. Climo, Schultz and Feldberg have birthdays within 12 days of each other. (cue Twilight Zone music) [/quote

when are their bdays? i'm april 8th so maybe there's hope (types well while dreaming)... Schwebby is right around there too

Aries rule! (we are talking about the car right?! :D)

Aries rule!


Seems appropriate that USDGC winners are all Aries where they "ram" the OBs down your throat... :D

spoken like a true fish! :P

which would seem more appropriate for USDGC w/ all the shots people throw in the water

which would seem more appropriate for USDGC w/ all the shots people throw in the water


Considering I've fish-nished near the bottom on my two times there, water certainly factored into that.

I thought this was the ROY thread?

LIZ LOPEZ for ROY 2008!!

If you look closely, the posts were related to ROY. And with Liz being another Aries, perhaps she can be the woman to breakthru and win the USDGC. :cool:

McBeth came out to doubles last night with Shoestring. Cool kid that definately has game. Great putter.

What do you guys think a person will need to "average cash" to pull off a spot on the list as filler? lol


-Chris "wouldn't even make THAT list" Woj.

Nice win, Chris!

Haha, thanks. Just making an effort to sneak onto the back end of a ballot in this year's runaway race. :)

Missing the first half of the year and not moving up after worlds probably makes it tough to do though too. Either way, good shooting lately CWoj

Oh no doubt. If I cared about winning it I'd definitely have waited to be a candidate next year. :) One things for sure, this year even if I had been doing this from the beginning of January I wouldn't even be near the front-runners!

and McBeth shoots a blazing 1073 rated 60 on Sunday at Wrightwood (par 81) this weekend to take the Sunrise Showdown by a handful of strokes over the likes of Steve Rico, Wisecup

On top of that he beat the course record by 4 and won by 5. He was on fire that last round and actually easily could have shot a -23 (58). Kids crazy I tell ya!

Will racked up another win as well.

Will racked up another win as well.



Where? Did he beat Schweb?

Franklin, KY (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=7593&amp;year=2008&amp;incl udeRatings=1#Open)

45 from Franklin's longs is sick. That course is nothing but bombs all over the place. Wonder what the weather was like, I've only played it in crazy wind.

45 from Franklin's longs is sick. That course is nothing but bombs all over the place. Wonder what the weather was like, I've only played it in crazy wind.




Looks like they played a different course the 1st round though Woj. The 2nd and third rounds looked about 10 strokes tougher.

First round was Rec tees in the upload.

First round was Rec tees in the upload.




So it was a different course. :DWell at least an easier one.

45 is still impressive because that wind was sick that weekend. Easily a minimum 30 mph all weekend, and no matter what direction you turned it was a headwind.

1. McBeth
2. Will

I don't think anyone will disagree with that