Kette_Master
Nov 22 2007, 03:09 PM
For right hand throwers, is this a true statement? "Backhand rollers should finish to the right, and sidearm rollers should finish to the left." I use a RoadRunner for backhand rollers and a Firebird for sidearm rollers. The distance of my backhand rollers far exceed the distance of my sidearm rollers. That is probably because I throw more backhand than sidearm. I've also been experimenting with rolling my putter both BH and SA and have found that the BH finishes to the right and the SA finishes to the left.

bschweberger
Nov 22 2007, 05:04 PM
yes, that is a True Statement

Kette_Master
Nov 22 2007, 07:21 PM
Schweb-
I saw a quote from you on Innova's website concerning the Firebird. You said, "It is my favorite and most predictable rolling disc." Do you use it for both BH and SA rolling?

denny1210
Nov 23 2007, 07:44 PM
For right hand throwers, is this a true statement? "Backhand rollers should finish to the right, and sidearm rollers should finish to the left."


NOPE - rollers should finish to the direction that is desired. While it is true that most backhand rollers finish right and it it's easier to throw that shot, it is also very useful to be able to throw a backhand roller that never stands completely up and finishes left. (the same is true in reverse for sidearm rollers.)

Shags17
Nov 23 2007, 08:22 PM
I use a RoadRunner for backhand rollers and a Firebird for sidearm rollers.



Is it common for people who throw forehand rollers to throw overstable discs? Or is your Firebird pretty beat?

Nov 23 2007, 08:44 PM
get a couple putters and practice release angels and contact angles.then when comfortable with accomplishing desired effect move on to under stable discs, try to flat release and power enough to turn them to a roller,this requires an understable or a large amount of snap. once youve got desired results go to a more stable disc. i find my backhand rollers tend to duplicate the same results as when the same disc is thrown in the air.my forehand roller needs a lot more work to achieve similer results.it is important to get as much or more practice in a field in all kind of wind conditions as it is to practice air shots

tbender
Nov 27 2007, 10:00 AM
I use a RoadRunner for backhand rollers and a Firebird for sidearm rollers.



Is it common for people who throw forehand rollers to throw overstable discs? Or is your Firebird pretty beat?



Yes, overstable is better for forehand rollers.

travisgreenway
Nov 27 2007, 10:52 AM
If you are throwing an overstable disc...is it still something that you can flip...do you just throw it more straight up....I usually throw the most overstable disc in my bag so I won't throw a roller...However my backhand roller is vastly improving thanks to Spring Valley :DSomeone help a brotha out! walking from basket to tee in casual rounds I roll my putter to see if I can sit it on the teebox or it the sign or whatever and I am fairly accurate with SLOW forehand rollers :confused:
Thanks in advance :cool:

oklaoutlaw
Nov 27 2007, 10:59 AM
I use a RoadRunner for backhand rollers and a Firebird for sidearm rollers.



Is it common for people who throw forehand rollers to throw overstable discs? Or is your Firebird pretty beat?



Yes, overstable is better for forehand rollers.



Why do you say that? What is the difference in a disc rolling with counter-clockwise spin (forehand) as opposed to clockwise spin (backhand)? I have been throwing understable discs for forehand rollers for many years and have always been able to get the same, if not better distance than those guys throwing backhand rollers. An Eclipse or Valkyrie roll great forehand, both very understable.

I am not trying to argue, I would just like to know the basis of your statement.

tbender
Nov 27 2007, 11:53 AM
A pure YMMV discussion. :)

It's an observation from experience mainly. I generate a lot of spin and I have gotten FH rollers out to 500-550'. (Of course, nowadays my right arm is not in shape to do those distances anymore...) But from my own throwing and watching others, overstable seems to be preferred and most consistant.

The biggest thing that I've seen is angle forgiveness. I can be less fine with the angle of the Firebird than an Eagle or otherwise and get a more consistant line and finish. Now for shorter rollers, I have "stabled" down and backed off the spin power.

I've also used less overstable discs to get a certain line/finish -- a harder left finish or trying to get more carry before rolling (more of a sidearm release than a standrad 3/4's-to-over-the-top release).

kjellispv
Nov 27 2007, 02:20 PM
I would agree with TBender for forehand roller distance. The more overstable the farther it will go, alot of it has to do with the terrain your rolling on. But on average i use my spirit for 500ft, a firebird for 450, monster for 400, max for 350, teerex or eagle for 300, and a wraith/ orc for 250 footers. The same concept goes for my backhand rollers the slower i can get it to stand up while actually getting it to stand up and finish right the further it goes. Another factor is arm strength, i know people like to throw understable stuff for tommahawks/ hammer throws but for max distance i throw a firebird or spirit.

bschweberger
Nov 29 2007, 08:53 AM
Schweb-
I saw a quote from you on Innova's website concerning the Firebird. You said, "It is my favorite and most predictable rolling disc." Do you use it for both BH and SA rolling?

Kette Master, yes I use it for both, but I rarely throw forehand rollers.