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jefferson
May 30 2007, 01:10 PM
"Liddell most likely will face Wanderlei Silva next. "That's what we'll probably do, Chuck verse Wanderlei," UFC president Dana White said afterward. So to all of you UFC admirers old and new, get ready for Silva-Liddell -- and get pumped up for Jackson defending his belt against current PRIDE two-division champ and former UFC fighter Dan Henderson (which will be the first title fight between current UFC and PRIDE champions)."

cant wait for these 2 fights, hopefully they will happen on the same card.

still waiting on fedor...

seewhere
May 30 2007, 01:41 PM
Jackson is for REAL!!

skaZZirf
May 30 2007, 01:45 PM
I was surprised that liddell lost to Jackson, but I was more shocked about the implications surrounding the UFC and pride mixture...Is jackson, who was only above average in the Pride world, a representative of the shortcomings of the UFC clan of fighters...Will Fedor come in and simply dominate these fighters. I think Liddell is way outmatched by Silva, whos relentless attack and non-tiring fighting style is unmatched in the division. Liddel may be done as the two worlds collide, and younger more aggresive fighters come forward...Ill tell you what, I have not picked a card correctly since the merger. MMA is eploding on the scene, and american fans will be shocked when these multi cultural fighters and pride transplants take the stage. Keep you eyes open, and your mouth closed.

jefferson
May 30 2007, 03:24 PM
i dont think anyone will dominate after the merger, too many good fighters. liddell, eventhough 37, is not done yet. he had an amazing run as the champion that will probably not be matched for awhile (except maybe fedor). silva has lost 3 of his last 5 and has not faired well in UFC fights for some reason. he did lose to tito somehow, albeit 7 years ago. they have been trying to plan this fight for some time, i can't believe it might finally happen... and without a title on the line, crazy.

knees to the head

m_conners
May 30 2007, 03:33 PM
I'm pumped to see Jackson defend his title. But I'll be even more pumped when Fedor steps into the octagon. When it happens Fedor should be something else to watch.

rhett
May 30 2007, 03:46 PM
I'm just glad we're still getting the fights we want. I'm afraid that as the popularity and $paydays$ go up, we will get the "boxing effect" of protecting promising fighters from early defeats.

So far so good because everybody has losses. I hope it stays that way. The UFC has been benefitted from the Don King era as much as boxing has been destroyed by it.

skaZZirf
May 30 2007, 03:54 PM
I believe you are correct that liddell's stand as the champ was awesome to see, but like with all fight sports, a champion will come forward and hold the crown, and eventually get a beatdown from an underdawg......I thought GRSP was gonna be unstoppable...eh ehhhhhh....I also thought crocop was gonna kill some UFC boys...Fedor is my last hope as a choice fighter to pick up a win...dan henderson is good, but lacks the commercial edge that the companies are looking for...It would be great to see someone like Kimbo slice get in there...If you dont know him, look him up.

rhett
May 30 2007, 04:18 PM
Brandon Vera is the kid that needs to get signed. Big smile, lots of personality, outstanding skills. He's been in a contract dispute with the UFC because he wants the big money now, and you can't really blame him. I think his hope was to work the different leagues against each other for a better payday, but Dana White out smarted him by buying all the other leagues.

"The Truth" is kind of in limbo right now. I hope Dana offers him a decent enough deal to get him in the door, because I see a lot of potential from that kid, with all the tools fight fans love plus all the charisma the sponsors seek.

jefferson
May 30 2007, 04:25 PM
there are so many good fighters coming in its going to get ridiculous. dont sleep on the ruas... shogun (http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/05/24/dana-white-confirms-signing-of-mauricio-shogun-rua/) just got signed thursday. he was supposed to fight liddell now he'll probably await the winner of liddell-silva, or more likely jackson-henderson.

some people seem unaware that liddell-jackson was a rematch, the 1st was more entertaining,
PRIDE (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x68cu_chuck-liddell-vs-quinton-jackson) style. chuck needs to learn the power of the knee... and quickly.

skaZZirf
May 30 2007, 05:13 PM
Id like to see less lovemaking in the UFC...Pride fighters didnt roll as much(except gracies) as UFC fighters...the cage lets fighters on the ground have a goal as well as lower the stand back up protocol of pride...They push the other into he cage..cheesy IMO...Plus,,, fighters grab the cage and use it for leverage, also making even good seats, bad....

jefferson
May 30 2007, 05:23 PM
i agree, i also love the yellow card in PRIDE. each fighter gets a yellow, all of a sudden its fists of fury.

this was a great fight, silva vs jackson II (http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/silva%2Bvs%2Bjackson/video/x7z48_wanderlei-silva-vs-quinton-jackson), this after the 1st match where silva landed like 20 straight knees... to the head. the replays at the end are brutal.

jefferson
May 30 2007, 05:35 PM
can't even believe this loss (http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/silva%2Bvs%2Bortiz/video/xxe56_wanderlei-silva-vs-tito-ortiz-valet) is on silva's resume. tito is garbage... tackle and dry hump

m_conners
May 30 2007, 06:38 PM
Cung Le (sp?) is a bad mofo.

skaZZirf
May 31 2007, 01:17 AM
so...I ve been wrong almost all year in my picks...but ill put any reasonable wager that FEDOR wins his next baTTle...

jefferson
Jun 05 2007, 10:02 AM
amusing article (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=7767) about the K-1 fight last weekend at the LA coliseum where Brock Lesnar and Johnnie Morton made their mma debuts.

jefferson
Jun 13 2007, 09:27 AM
anyone see Sam Stout vs. Spencer Fisher last night? their previous meeting was nominated for fight of the year in '06. i didnt see that one but i dont see how it could have been better than this one. these guys pounded each other the entire match and i dont remember them ever going to the ground. both these guys have chins of steel, but fischer was the faster and more relentless striker eventhough stout is muay-thai trained. fischer was winning the fight by everyone's account but he was severely bloodied around the right eye. fortunately, the judges saw through the deluge of blood and scored it correctly 30-27. check out this fight if it gets replayed.

m_conners
Jun 13 2007, 02:18 PM
I have it recorded...plan on watching it tonight.

Big E
Jun 13 2007, 03:07 PM
ME AS WELL

jefferson
Jun 29 2007, 09:45 AM
UFC 73, 74, & 75 (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=event.ppvhome) have been scheduled. 73's cards look almost complete with the always enjoyable spider on the top card, and the jenna jameson badboy on the 3rd. lot of cards to be added to 74 & 75... hopefully 1 card will be liddell vs. silva. guessing it will be added to 74, as there's not much worth watching right now. i also think cro-cop will be added to #75, fighting some big frenchie.

skaZZirf
Jun 29 2007, 11:30 AM
who is set up to take down jackson... Also i heard the pride belt will be fighting the UFC pelt....Whats the drill.

jefferson
Jul 12 2007, 09:00 AM
who is set up to take down jackson... Also i heard the pride belt will be fighting the UFC pelt....Whats the drill.

rampage vs henderson will be a unification fight

ESPN.com: At UFC 75, Dan Henderson will fight Rampage Jackson. Is this a unification bout or is this just for the UFC title?
Dana White: It will absolutely be a unification bout. We have to respect Henderson's titles. He knocked out Wanderlei Silva and had the 185-pound championship. When he fights Rampage, they both have belts. Why should Dan Henderson get the UFC title if Rampage can't get the PRIDE titles? It makes one of them the undisputed guy.

Silva?
ESPN.com: Chuck Liddell versus Wanderlei Silva. Is it going happen?
Dana White: God, I hope so. So many people have wanted to see that fight for so many years, and PRIDE basically killed the fight. Now that Chuck has lost, the fight makes more sense, and I'd love to make it happen. We're on the phone every day with fighters and fighters' managers. There's still work to be done.

FEDOR?
ESPN.com: Fedor Emelianenko -- when will he be in the UFC?
Dana White: We'll have him soon. We'll have him before the end of the year.

and the state of PRIDE
Dana White: I don't know what we're going to do yet because that thing is so messed up. We're still trying to figure it out. It's a complete disaster. They went out of business for a reason.



full interview (http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=2928261&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos2)

jefferson
Jul 12 2007, 09:08 AM
TThe Spider is def one of my favorite fighters, multiple knees, kicks and punches.... to the head. and, his ground game is vastly improved from just 2 fights ago. he destroyed rich franklin and now nate marquardt, who's next? i dont think anyone wants to fight this guy.

tito and evans were supposedly the same weight, but i swear tito looked 15 pounds heavier... maybe its just his huge melon. tito apparently added some kicking to his standup, but it was more of the same for him: head to the groin - takedown attempt. he won the first 2 rounds while causing no real damage, but got a point deducted in the 2nd. i think evans crushed him in the 3rd and if this fight went 5 rounds, i think he would have knocked him out. tie = rematch

jefferson
Jul 19 2007, 10:49 AM
UFC 75 on Spike (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=6831) not PPV. interesting, because 75 looks a lot beTTer than 74 so far. cro-cop come back.

skaZZirf
Jul 19 2007, 10:54 AM
Crocop will not lose this time...Left roundhouse kick to the DOMEpiece.

Bizzle
Jul 19 2007, 11:13 AM
Crocop will not lose this time...Left roundhouse kick to the DOMEpiece.



I hope so...it was kind of ironic to see him loose last time with his own trademark shin to the skull. I was stunned!!

jefferson
Sep 18 2007, 11:11 AM
Crocop will not lose this time...Left roundhouse kick to the DOMEpiece.


wrong... uninspired to say the least.

how does houston alexander crush jardine in less than a minute and get a 5th card match (which he also won in about a minute) and jardine gets a top card match which could lead to a title shot? hope the last beating earns alexander a REAL fight next time.

MMA rankings (http://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings.asp?n_id=8942)

oh yeah... shogun is coming

skaZZirf
Sep 19 2007, 02:19 PM
that sucks...He really is a great fighter to watch...FEDOR time.

jefferson
Sep 24 2007, 12:25 PM
WOW... liddell loses to jardine AND shogun loses to griffin.

m_conners
Sep 24 2007, 02:33 PM
I didn't get to see it but saw that Keith pulled it off....just goes to show how much variety there is in the UFC, you never know who will win or lose.

I want to see Serra beat the fart out of Hughes.

jefferson
Sep 24 2007, 07:01 PM
well here you go (http://www.crocop.de/)

if liddell had any muay thai skills at all he would have kneed jardine into a coma silva style. jardine's head was down the whole time. griffin dominated shogun. neither shogun nor liddell could adjust and shogun's fitness was horrendous.

worst part about the liddell fight is now we will probably never see liddell vs. silva. would have been something, oh well. silva vs jardine in december i think. watch the knees to the face keith, they're coming.... in bunches

dannyreeves
Sep 24 2007, 08:16 PM
I really think Liddell has some personal problems or something that is keeping him from focusing or preparing for his fights. I have heard rumors of a lil too much partying.

As for Shogun. He needs some cardio. Not much else to say about that.

As for Serra. I hope he beats Hughes but only because I think Hughes is a total doucheclown. Then I can see GSP get some revenge. Other than that, I think Serra is barely in the top 10 in the 170lb divison.

The best looking fighter on Saturday was definetly Jon Fitch. That dude will be fighting for the belt very soon. He is an animal.

m_conners
Sep 25 2007, 02:03 PM
Yeah I hope Hughes gets the snot kicked out of him and then GSP can come in and take the belt back from Serra. I would like to see Serra do well for the rest of his career but it's unlikely that he keeps his belt long.

I wonder how long the Ultimate Fighter contract lasts?

jefferson
Sep 25 2007, 03:40 PM
The best looking fighter on Saturday was definetly Jon Fitch. That dude will be fighting for the belt very soon. He is an animal.


4th in current MMA rankings (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=9208)

accidentalROLLER
Sep 28 2007, 03:24 PM
boy, that cro cop-kongo fight sucked [censored]. i was excited when i heard cro cop was coming to the ufc, but after 3 fights, he doesn't even look like the same fighter. in pride, he was a machine and devastated people. he has more ufc losses than kicks thrown.
....on that note, it seems like alot of the fights so far this year have been lame. either the "big" match-ups aren't there, or they don't pan out to be good fights.

jefferson
Oct 29 2007, 05:08 PM
The Spider (http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/columns/story?id=3081517) is a bad man... hes like a younger, lighter, more dangerous Wanderlei. speaking of whom, guess who's coming to UFC 79 (http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=3072423)

anyone see the interview with couture (http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1316) ? sounds like a lot of the pride guys are getting the big contracts at the expense of longtime UFC guys. oh well... knees to the face

accidentalROLLER
Oct 29 2007, 05:16 PM
does anyone know what the structure of the UFC contract is? Years? Fights? Money? I can't find info on them anywhere.

jefferson
Nov 20 2007, 10:45 AM
i think its usually structured around number of fights rather than time frame (3-5 usually?). money seems to be preTTy varied.

jefferson
Nov 20 2007, 11:20 AM
just announced (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10025), henderson dropping weight to take on silva. tough fight for silva as henderson will probably be back up around 200 come fight time. but, theres no one left for the spida to dominate.

lots of big names at UFC 79 (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=EventDetail.FightCard&eid=979) so far.

fedor fights new years eve against the biggest korean ever (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10047)

legit win for kimbo? (http://sportsline.com/mmaboxing/story/10465686) sounds like there might have been some flopping from his opponent who hasnt lasted 2 minutes in his last 5 fights.

m_conners
Nov 20 2007, 02:54 PM
Hong Man Choi - At 7-foot-2-inches tall and more than 350 pounds, Choi will have substantial height and weight advantages over the Russian.

Sheesh, this guys is HUGE!!!

http://www.philben.net/images/blog/ssirum.jpg

jefferson
Dec 22 2007, 01:12 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3165552

m_conners
Dec 24 2007, 05:24 PM
He should stick to boxing if you ask me. But it would be pretty frikin cool to see Floyd in the octagon.

jefferson
Jan 22 2008, 11:21 AM
in 2008? (http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videos.asp?v_id=1413)

jefferson
Jan 30 2008, 01:28 PM
february 16 - miami (http://fight.proelite.com/kimbo-slice-vs-tank-abbott.html#)

phluffhead
Feb 05 2008, 07:32 PM
Brock didn't show much technique. A simple kneebar are you serious. Needs to fight another brawler

jefferson
Feb 06 2008, 09:43 AM
TTru... but he is huge, quick, and strong.

brock vs tim sylvia

jmc2442
Feb 06 2008, 10:29 AM
he punched like a lunatic. If Brock could CONTROL his fists and power through contact he would play a role in the UFC.... also, he needs some fundamental work still. There is no excuse for getting caught the way he did.

jmc2442
Feb 06 2008, 10:32 AM
oh, and I forgot...
spider vs. hollywood.
one month.

I hope it lives up to its potential. Im amped for this one.

phluffhead
Feb 06 2008, 03:50 PM
brock vs tim sylvia


That's what I was thinking while watching the Sylvia fight or Chuck or Kimbo if that could be worked out

Erroneous
Feb 06 2008, 03:55 PM
so what happend w/ the Fedor Vs. King kong fight? was it cancelled or delayed or did i miss somthing

veganray
Feb 06 2008, 04:30 PM
Fedor crushed Hong Man Choi on Dec 31. Armbar submission. 1:54 Round 1.

jefferson
Feb 08 2008, 10:42 AM
does anyone know what the structure of the UFC contract is? Years? Fights? Money? I can't find info on them anywhere.


ba$e from last fights (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=mmajunkie-UFC_81_Salaries&prov=mmajunkie&type=lgns)

jefferson
Feb 18 2008, 10:32 AM
kimbo by TKO... tank looked terrible (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=11386)

jefferson
Mar 06 2008, 10:59 AM
silva is a bad, bad man (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventdetail.fightCard&eid=1056)

who's next? rampage?

Mar 06 2008, 02:43 PM
did you watch the fights juff? i watch the highlights and, with the exception of the silva & leben fight, most of them were pretty lame. ufc seems in a lull right now.

jefferson
Mar 06 2008, 03:28 PM
i actually watched it at a bar. there's a place on ufc.com where it lists what bars in your area are showing the fight. some charge covers, some dont.

i agree those were probably the 2 best fights, but the okami / tanner fight was good, and kongo / herring had its moments. it was strange that kongo tried to take the fight to the ground so often.

i though a big mistake was not airing the arlovski fight, he's always entertaining and has fought a lot of UFC fights so he is well known. losing couture was obviously a big blow, but they have so much top talent that they will have good matchups for awhile.

not really excited about 83, but 84 is starting to look intriguing.

Mar 06 2008, 03:35 PM
i don't understand all this obsession with the heavyweight division. bunch of big names, but the hype tends to be greater than the fight. i'm excited to see kenny florian tee-off again. the lightweight fights have gotten [censored] match-ups for a long time.

jefferson
Mar 07 2008, 09:58 AM
TTru, i feel you on the heavyweights... but i still want to see this fight happen (http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3280383).

looks like some good fights lined up with florian.

Mar 07 2008, 10:47 AM
i like couture, haven't see much of fedor. whenever i root for randy, he loses, whenever i could care less, he wins. i miss the fights when florian was getting to the top. it seems whenever fighters get the belt, they never have to fight again. i miss seeing some of those lighter weight battles, like when parisian got his teeth knocked out (literally). much more exciting then all these reality show boyband fighters in there now.

phluffhead
Mar 07 2008, 04:14 PM
That was a Good fight and makes Silva look ever more unstoppable. I thought hendersen had a chance in the first

rhedd
Mar 09 2008, 03:16 AM
The only person who could give Silva a good fight and possibly beat him would be St. Pierre. That would be the most competitive fight we'll see with Silva, otherwise he's gonna keep destroying everyone at 185.

They need to sign Kimbo to the HW division already, that would spice things up.

jefferson
Apr 08 2008, 05:43 PM
FEDOR (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=12220)

its not couture, but a step in the right direction nonetheless. much beTTer than hoi chi min or la choy or whatever his name was

jmc2442
Apr 08 2008, 05:53 PM
^^^ PIMP. as with most MMA battles, I will be watching.

jefferson
Apr 09 2008, 12:51 PM
kimbo's next opponent announced (http://mmajunkie.com/news/4104/report-kimbo-vs-thompson-set-for-elitexc-cbs-main-event.mma)... looks like another KO victory. hopefully he'll get a real opponent eventually.

phluffhead
Apr 09 2008, 01:05 PM
Don't think he can handle a REAL opponent unless it's a slugger

jefferson
Apr 09 2008, 01:27 PM
TTru... probably why they're not scheduling them

jmc2442
Apr 09 2008, 01:56 PM
wow, on CBS... i wonder who else will be on the card?!?

jefferson
Apr 09 2008, 02:21 PM
Fight Card (http://groups.proelite.com/snf/105071/Fight_Card)

great, all show and no defense baroni again

jmc2442
Apr 09 2008, 02:57 PM
dang, Juffman is awarded TThe "Dude All Over iTT" award. I say "lkjdfasjl?!?" and he's got TThe answer in minuTTes....

btw, Ruthless vs. Hands of Steel should be pretty good.

Baroni is a [censored]....

my thoughts... hey, its something. National TV MMA, dang.

phluffhead
Apr 09 2008, 03:50 PM
Ju hear about Mayham Miller b&*&- slapn Danny Bonadouchebag in the street the other day. He was talkn about it on Faction yeasterday

jefferson
Apr 15 2008, 12:20 PM
GSP (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6082&zoneid=13)
vs
MaTT Sera (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-serra041508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

for what its worth, maTT seems more relaxed... of course dont know if thats beTTer or not. def the more humorous of the 2: "I�m just going to get to feel like Tim Sylvia feels in every city.�

should be a good one - 4/19/2008

if you dont want to buy the ppv, GO HERE (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=EventDetail.SportsBars&eid=1082)

phluffhead
Apr 15 2008, 04:12 PM
Please tell me we're not going to Hooters to watch it.

Have Ju been to Wilsons or is Sjur getting it

jefferson
Apr 15 2008, 08:48 PM
been to place laTTerly known as wilsons... [censored].

fox & hound

phluffhead
Apr 16 2008, 01:43 PM
Anything but Hooters is alright with me

cwphish
Apr 16 2008, 03:23 PM
I guess the Fox and Hound is a franchise then since we have three in Charlotte. They are all crappy places to hang out here.

phluffhead
Apr 16 2008, 03:45 PM
I just want to see the fight, but Hooters has the worst beer selection EVER and some dryarse wings.

cwphish
Apr 16 2008, 03:50 PM
Are you sure it's not because Faith has an association with Hooters? :o

skaZZirf
Apr 16 2008, 06:08 PM
Fox and doggystyle. Do it.

phluffhead
Apr 17 2008, 07:47 AM
Are you sure it's not because Faith has an association with Hooters? :o



Wow I believe she worked there at some point in life then worked her way up the pole

jefferson
Apr 17 2008, 11:01 AM
They are all crappy places to hang out here.


no jambands? :D

Big E
Apr 17 2008, 11:47 AM
Hey my work wont let me go to UFC's website to see the cost for pay per view....... Can anyone tell me that has access?

jmc2442
Apr 17 2008, 11:53 AM
its always 40 bones plus this tax and that. ends up being around 45 after all is said and done.

jefferson
Apr 17 2008, 12:09 PM
probably about right. or, you can go to a local sports bar that carries it for free or $5-$10 cover.


if you dont want to buy the ppv, GO HERE (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=EventDetail.SportsBars&eid=1082)

phluffhead
Apr 17 2008, 12:18 PM
Stop half stepn

TX Arlington Fox & Hound @ Arlington 817 277-3591
TX Arlington Hooters @ Arlington 817 265 3861
TX Arlington Humperdinks @ Arlington 817 640-8553

jefferson
Apr 17 2008, 12:37 PM
what a nice guy

guessing the hound will be $10, hooters free, and well humperdinks

m_conners
Apr 17 2008, 02:39 PM
Chris "THE KRIPPLER" Lieben is hosting an MMA fight night this weekend in Tulsa. Same night at the Serra/GSP fight. Too bad i'll be at a campout tournament getting wasted.

Big E
Apr 17 2008, 02:55 PM
Thanks for the info..........I have a 18 month old daughter so we have everyone over to our house and the fight is free for me :DI was just woundering what the amount they would have to split would be! :D

jmc2442
Apr 17 2008, 02:58 PM
Too bad i'll be at a campout tournament getting wasted.



seems to be the theme for this weekend. :o

gonna be the first UFC I don't get to see since like 71 or 72.

m_conners
Apr 17 2008, 03:37 PM
Yeah same here i havent missed one in quite some time. BUMMER!!!

Go Serra!

http://mmamania.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/mattserraufc69champion.jpg

skaZZirf
Apr 17 2008, 06:01 PM
Serra is overrated. He will be destroyed.

accidentalROLLER
Apr 17 2008, 06:11 PM
One thing that's really starting to bug me about the UFC is that the "big name" or "popular" fighters always get these weird rematches. Now, its one thing if the 2 guys battle and one loses by decision or lucky punch/submission. But its another if the guy gets totally dominated. And it usually occurs with one old school/has-been/washed-up fighter that everybody loves.
I'm not talking about GSP/Serra specifically, but, for instance, the 2 Rich Franklin/Silva fights were a joke. Same with the Ortiz/Shamrock fights.
I really get sick of seeing the same guys in the octagon every fight. I swear, every UFC has Griffin, Evans, Tank, Lieben, and/or Liddell.
To be honest, the last 5-8 UFCs I've seen haven't been that great. I think its gotten too popular and mainstream. Jon Q. Public wants to see the same things over and over.
Does anyone else miss the days from a few years ago? It seems like most of the fights used to be the lighter weights, now its all heavy-weight classes. Maybe its just me.

skaZZirf
Apr 17 2008, 06:18 PM
I agree. I would like the sport to get to a weekly level. More up and comers. Right now the only way to get a title fight is to be on the spike show.

accidentalROLLER
Apr 17 2008, 06:55 PM
Yup. I miss just a few years ago when 2 up&coming lightweights would beat the snot out of each other just for a chance to be in another UFC fight. Now these "reality show" guys come in and lose again and again and keep getting on fight cards.

cwphish
Apr 17 2008, 07:03 PM
They are all crappy places to hang out here.


no jambands? :D




One of them actually had one at one point. The band (Simplified) must have thought it was lame to, because they broke into Copa Cabana.

cwphish
Apr 17 2008, 07:08 PM
UFC will never be the same with the restrictions it imposed a few years back to clean it up for the public. Bottom line is the guys don't get to hurt and punish each other anymore, so they keep coming back after they wipe the snot off their face.

jefferson
Apr 18 2008, 08:36 AM
Yup. I miss just a few years ago when 2 up&coming lightweights would beat the snot out of each other just for a chance to be in another UFC fight. Now these "reality show" guys come in and lose again and again and keep getting on fight cards.


WEC has great lightweights

jmc2442
Apr 18 2008, 08:46 AM
WEC is alot better with the lighter weight classes, 145-155....

I cant wait for Faber vs. Pulver. its gonna be a throwdown.

jefferson
Apr 18 2008, 09:09 AM
just lost a lot of respect for hendo:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24187721/

"...But not against Silva. I�m a much better fighter than him and more well-rounded. He caught me and that�s the way it goes. I felt he was more lucky against me.�

i really hate when fighters and others use the "lucky" cop-out... silva has something like a 70% standup striking accuracy which is far and away the best in mma. over half his wins are TKOs or KOs by strikes... the term "lucky" in reference to his game is laughable

skaZZirf
Apr 18 2008, 11:17 AM
What are the odds on the fight. Last time they fought it was 10-1. Serra might be bleeding after this one! I predict clinch and multiple knees. Serra will buckle, and ground and pound will ensue. After third fist to Serra's unconscious skull, the fight will be stopped. There will be a four minute wait for Serra to wake up, before he is taken from the ring on a stretcher. GSP will thank the home crowd for support and then state that Serra is a great fighter and good friend, and he will accept rematch, if Serra wants one. Thanks for watching.

jefferson
Apr 18 2008, 11:53 AM
... or serra will knock him out again with multiple "lucky" punches to the dome and a canuck riot will ensue the likes of which have never been witnessed since the g-n-r concert debacle.

skaZZirf
Apr 18 2008, 12:14 PM
Serra will be dominated like no other belt holder has. I predict an embarrassment to his entire gym and crew, including tears from his greasy brother. The MMA world will not be shocked by the results. He will then fall away into obscurity in his home town in Long island. He will claim excuses, but will have trouble articulating the reasons for his defeat, not only because he has a 10th grade education, but because of a massive concussion and broken jaw.

m_conners
Apr 18 2008, 01:02 PM
Serra is overrated. He will be destroyed.



Thats why I am pulling for him. The underdog will win once again and put GSP's face on the mat.

phluffhead
Apr 21 2008, 09:55 AM
Wow I've never seen so much running in my life. I think there was maybe two decent fights

jmc2442
Apr 21 2008, 10:19 AM
Juffman, give me your take... I didnt get to go anywhere that had the fight over the weekend. I've read the results... what really happened? interested in whatever you thought about all the fights.

skaZZirf
Apr 21 2008, 11:27 AM
Serra was outclassed. He fought like he was terrified the whole match. GSP was clean and rested after the fight, while serra looked like he headbutted and woodchipper.

veganray
Apr 21 2008, 11:34 AM
That damned Travis Lutter kept me from going 12/12 on my pix. Why couldn't he close out that armbar in R1? :mad:

jefferson
Apr 21 2008, 11:46 AM
gonna have to agree with bs, in a word... TTerrible.

the Quarry - Starnes fight i have a hard time explaining. starnes, or the running man, after taking some shots apparently decided the best way to make it through the fight was to run away, and he did, for 2+ rounds. i guess he felt he'd have an easier time telling his friends he lost a decision rather than getting KOd. instead he embarassed himself by running to a losing decision 30-24, and probably lost his UFC contract in the process.

gsp dominated serra completely after taking him down about 2 seconds into the fight. if gsp suffered any damage it was to his knees from serra's shaTTered ribs scratching them.

travis luTTer looked like he only trained for a 1 round fight, and his body seemed surprised it was being asked to go on past 5 minutes. franklin pounded him like a tired tomato can in the 2nd.

everything else was uneventful or featured more starnes-like strategy except for the Hironaka - Goulet fight that got replayed after the main event. guys were throwing bombs and goulet didnt look like he was making it out of the 1st then TKOd Hironaka in the 2nd.

at least we see penn and silva in the next one... i forsee multiple knees to jardines face.

phluffhead
Apr 21 2008, 12:23 PM
you can still see the fights here www.mmashare.com (http://www.mmashare.com)

it's sad when the best fight is an undercard

jefferson
Apr 22 2008, 09:14 AM
instead he embarassed himself by running to a losing decision 30-24, and probably lost his UFC contract in the process.


nabs (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=12408)

jefferson
Apr 22 2008, 09:16 AM
UFC 85 (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=11489) is starting to look craptacular

accidentalROLLER
Apr 22 2008, 09:30 AM
I can't believe they didn't kick Werdum out of the UFC. His fight with Arlovski was almost as bad as Starnes.

skaZZirf
Apr 22 2008, 10:10 AM
Now, that is a scar!

veganray
Apr 22 2008, 11:41 AM
UFC 85 (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=11489) is starting to look craptacular


Rumors abound of James Irvin as a replacement. That should be a better fight that Chuck/Rashad, IMHO, though not worthy of top billing.

jefferson
Apr 22 2008, 04:05 PM
instead he embarassed himself by running to a losing decision 30-24, and probably lost his UFC contract in the process.


nabs (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=12408)


explanation (http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=6978)

skaZZirf
Apr 22 2008, 04:53 PM
Starnes vs White...

veganray
Apr 22 2008, 05:05 PM
That should be just as entertaining as Ortiz vs. White was.

jefferson
May 02 2008, 09:18 AM
Dream 3 card announced (http://www.dreamofficial.com/fightcard/dream3/)

May 11th... ReaLly geTTing into the lightweights, anyone see aoki vs JZ in dream 2? watch out, the grappling monkey wears tights

jefferson
May 02 2008, 10:44 AM
in mma history? (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=832)

phluffhead
May 02 2008, 10:55 AM
Wow he almost made it 1:30 once

jefferson
May 02 2008, 11:31 AM
most the guys he fought... their only win

jefferson
May 06 2008, 01:05 PM
rumors abound about the Affliction: Banned event July 19th that has yet to be officially announced.

Fedor v Sylvia is supposed to the headliner... recently barneTT v rizzo 2 (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6217&zoneid=2) appear to also be part of the card. who else? a supposed rothwell v arlovski and appearances by Babalu and lindland

this amounts to one of the biggest cards in mma history, especially regarding heavyweights, which then makes you wonder where's the $$$$ coming from? seems like it could be a big setup for an even larger letdown... hope at least the fedor fight happens

skaZZirf
May 06 2008, 01:20 PM
Sylvia is going to be housed! Ill be taking bets.

jefferson
May 06 2008, 01:46 PM
good luck finding givers... id like to see crocop v sylvia

phluffhead
May 06 2008, 02:47 PM
On how many rounds or seconds?

skaZZirf
May 06 2008, 03:42 PM
First round, 2 min in.

jefferson
May 07 2008, 03:43 PM
lindland confirmed? to fight Fabio Negao (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/josh_gross/05/07/lindland.mailbag/index.html?eref=T1) and supposedly the total fighter purse will be over $6 mill. how, with partnerships falling through with hd.net and golden boy? who knows....

confirmed card (supposedly)
FEDOR v sylvia
barneTT v rizzo
lindland v negao

specualtion
rothwell v arlovski
sobral v 200 lb tomato can

jefferson
May 16 2008, 10:49 AM
Its Official (http://www.afflictionbanned.com/)

nice trailer

jmc2442
May 16 2008, 12:20 PM
wow. thats two KILLER headlining fights in two months. I cant wait

Faber v. Pulver, now this.

say word.

skaZZirf
May 16 2008, 12:32 PM
I will say it again. Fedor is going to DOMINATE!!!! I feel bad for Sylvia.

jmc2442
May 16 2008, 12:41 PM
dont be so sure "FreeZack".. personally I think it'll be a good fight. My money would have to be layed down on Fedor though, but I dont see an onslaught.

the more I think the more the Faber-Pulver fight really has me waiting. Its gonna be a goodie. Maybe its just all the plugs I've been seeing during playoff hockey that has me amped, but I doubt it. Its two small dudes ready to KILL eachother for the belt.

It's great that VS is broadcasting it live because that fight could last 5 seconds or 5 rounds.

skaZZirf
May 16 2008, 12:49 PM
Fedor is the best fighter in the world, hands down. Sylvia is gonna learn something, if he is awake long enough. Personally, I think a fair fight for Sylvia would be against Fedor's younger brother.

jefferson
May 16 2008, 02:42 PM
Personally, I think a fair fight for Sylvia would be against Fedor's younger brother.


that would be a great fight

skaZZirf
May 16 2008, 03:33 PM
watch the sick move at 1:02

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SXCYpC_zxBo&feature=related

jefferson
May 16 2008, 03:48 PM
wow... that asian ultimate warrior is a sparring bag

skaZZirf
May 16 2008, 11:51 PM
Fun to work moves you cant normally do!
Have you seen the flying armbar 10sec victory yet?

skaZZirf
May 16 2008, 11:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_FevrLdaw

CRUISER
May 17 2008, 01:33 AM
He made that look so easy... :eek: :eek: :eek:

skaZZirf
May 17 2008, 11:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMH_ajmDsSw&feature=related

jefferson
May 17 2008, 12:03 PM
what about this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=267i7rKeECA)

who throws successful heel hooks? and against silva no less...

skaZZirf
May 17 2008, 04:13 PM
Sweet.

phluffhead
May 17 2008, 05:32 PM
JU see this

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-kimbo051608&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

skaZZirf
May 18 2008, 11:21 AM
Ernesto hoost leg kick at the end. WOW. After you watch this, search for devastation. Scariest knockouts in MMA history.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fgrC8XfrL18&feature=related

accidentalROLLER
May 20 2008, 12:13 PM
http://view.break.com/505060

phluffhead
May 26 2008, 06:20 PM
Yo where's BJ fight? Jardine got worked

jefferson
May 27 2008, 09:08 AM
Yo where's BJ fight? Jardine got worked


BJ vs sherk (http://www.mmashare.com/bj-penn-vs-sean-sherk---ufc-84-fight-video-t1599.html)

phluffhead
May 27 2008, 02:26 PM
Thanks buddy for some reason it wouldn't work yesterday.
Nice snoozer for Tito's going away party

Big E
May 27 2008, 03:55 PM
I missed the fight how where the other fights?

rhedd
May 27 2008, 11:00 PM
War Wanderlei!

rhedd
May 27 2008, 11:05 PM
Heh, I just posted the double ko video and I didn't even see that you already posted it Colin, that was unbelievable.

phluffhead
May 28 2008, 10:48 AM
I missed the fight how where the other fights?



That site should have the other fights on it. Shrek v. BJ wasn't working on MOnday but the other fights were able to be viewed.

phluffhead
May 28 2008, 03:25 PM
Yo juff what's your take on the ending? TkO or end of round

skaZZirf
May 28 2008, 04:03 PM
On the double KO...end of round, IMO. Draw is always ended with sudden victory.

jefferson
May 28 2008, 04:12 PM
No Contest

veganray
May 28 2008, 05:14 PM
In boxing (per the Washington State Department of Licensing Rules), in the event of a simultaneous knockdown, if neither fighter can rise before the ten-count, it is a KO loss for both. If both can rise before the ten-count but neither can continue (as determined by referee or ringside physician), it goes to the judges' cards.

MMA is obviously a bit different, with no 10-count or even knockdowns per se, but that's how it works in one combat sport.

jefferson
May 29 2008, 09:23 AM
most mma orgs actually have rules in place for this and other situations. im almost positive this org (like most others) had it at NC

jefferson
May 29 2008, 09:36 AM
card announced, CroCop in grappling match (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=12930)... seriously

veganray
May 29 2008, 10:53 AM
That is the lamest gimmick imaginable. Not only will it be a bore, but CC is going to get housed. I can't imagine why his management would possibly agree to such a bout (unless there is a "gentlemen's agreement" to let it be a draw to boost CC's waning cred). :(

jmc2442
May 29 2008, 11:03 AM
"gentlemen's agreement" and the name Gracie dont usually go together. You are right Ray, what a gimmick. LAME-O. I want to see Cro-Cop blast someone on the side of the head, not try to armbar them to death.

total crap.

skaZZirf
May 29 2008, 11:33 AM
Crocop is better than you think, and this gracie is unproven. Hes 22 yrs old, and he got lucky with that last name.

phluffhead
Jun 02 2008, 02:19 PM
Bimbos a joke. But that was a nice ear though.

accidentalROLLER
Jun 02 2008, 02:26 PM
I don't even know what to think of that fight. That proved absolutely nothing.....except that they should never show fights on CBS ever again.

phluffhead
Jun 02 2008, 02:29 PM
It showed me that he would get destroyed against anyone good.
However, Faber looked pretty good last night

jmc2442
Jun 02 2008, 04:19 PM
Those two fights title fights last night were pretty awesome....

I really wonder what Faber would do with 7 or so more lbs on him at or around 155. I think he would still be a beast and a total force to be reckoned with. Unfortunately, we may never find out.

phluffhead
Jun 02 2008, 04:40 PM
However, the cornrows have to go and no REmatch

jefferson
Jun 03 2008, 10:14 AM
Those two fights title fights last night were pretty awesome....

I really wonder what Faber would do with 7 or so more lbs on him at or around 155. I think he would still be a beast and a total force to be reckoned with. Unfortunately, we may never find out.


i think he lost to tyson at that weight (his only loss)... or it was a catch weight. preTTy sure it was not 145 though. i think hes fought a few times above 145. wouldnt mind seeing him try to drop weight to fight Kid Yamamoto

great fight, he should have ended it in the 2nd. his hands were much faster and heavier than jens'

Big E
Jun 03 2008, 10:54 AM
Those two fights title fights last night were pretty awesome....

I really wonder what Faber would do with 7 or so more lbs on him at or around 155. I think he would still be a beast and a total force to be reckoned with. Unfortunately, we may never find out.


i think he lost to tyson at that weight (his only loss)... or it was a catch weight. preTTy sure it was not 145 though. i think hes fought a few times above 145. wouldnt mind seeing him try to drop weight to fight Kid Yamamoto

great fight, he should have ended it in the 2nd. his hands were much faster and heavier than jens'


Thats was the fight I wanted to see real bad :mad:

jefferson
Jun 03 2008, 01:38 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/33my8u1.gif

CRUISER
Jun 03 2008, 01:51 PM
Was that right before the ear blew up?

phluffhead
Jun 03 2008, 01:52 PM
**** I think the next one did that ear in.

Juff- Glad to see that ju finally got to see the fight

m_conners
Jun 04 2008, 04:05 PM
Another Kimbo article...this guy has overcome a lot of crap in his life, but what has he truly done to deserve all the money he is getting? I think it might be the fact that he is putting people in seats and generating a ton of viewers. It cracks me up when all these MMA fighters bad mouth Kimbo but the fact is more people are interested in Kimbo than any seasoned MMA veteran.

ESPN the magazine Kimbo article (http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3405201)

jefferson
Jun 05 2008, 10:35 AM
kimbo brings it on himself when he does [censored] like call liddell out. buTTerbean knocked out thompson in less than a minute for [censored]s sake.

he does put [censored]es in seats, but so did the XFL in the same arena (network TV - saturday night). lets see how the 2nd event goes. i think most mma enthusiasts are more concerned about the delivery of an inferior, or 2nd rate, product to one of the largest audiences ever. and, most mma fighters are probably jealous of his paycheck and recognition when they've devoted much more to the sport and are in all likelihood a much beTTer fighter

jefferson
Jun 05 2008, 10:44 AM
44 days till the return of the king (http://www.afflictionclothing.com/banned/)

FEDOR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgTueUP3t4&e)


arlovski is officlially in...

veganray
Jun 05 2008, 12:54 PM
Kimbo vs. <u>Ian</u> Liddell. That'd be HOT!

DiscHof
Jun 05 2008, 03:41 PM
Kimbo vs. <u>Ian</u> Liddell. That'd be HOT!



What's the line, and who's taking bets? :D

jefferson
Jun 05 2008, 04:32 PM
Bas RuTTen on kimbo (http://mmayou.com/news-and-exclusive-interviews-with-mmayou/37-fighters/200-bas-rutten-puts-all-the-rumors-to-bed)

jefferson
Jun 06 2008, 10:08 AM
44 days till the return of the king (http://www.afflictionclothing.com/banned/)

FEDOR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgTueUP3t4&amp;e)


arlovski is officlially in...



http://www.mma-zone.com/wp-content/uploads/sylvia_fedor.jpg
crazy the size disadvantage fedor commonly fights against

skaZZirf
Jun 06 2008, 10:11 AM
Must be tough to be that much bigger and get your [censored] handed to you.

veganray
Jun 09 2008, 01:10 PM
Pride 2006 Grand Prix champion Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic (Pictures) has canceled his June 15 grappling exhibition against Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt Ralek Gracie (Pictures) after aggravating an elbow injury in training. Dnevnik, one of the biggest online news portals in Croatia, reported the cancellation of the bout on Saturday.

The match, which was scheduled to be held under modified rules with a no-points system, began as a stopgap solution after promoter Fighting &amp; Entertainment Group was unable to find a suitable mixed martial arts opponent for the Croatian kickboxer.

Excluding a 56-second cameo appearance against overmatched Japanese grappler Tatsuya Mizuno (Pictures) last March at Dream 1, the Zagreb native has not fought in a Japanese ring for over 17 months.

Filipovic suffered the elbow injury in the Mizuno fight, but opted for conservative treatment in order to avoid surgery. However, after more than 15 years in the fight game, "Cro Cop" is finally showing the wear and tear of over 60 professional bouts.

The kickboxer, 33, is now tentatively scheduled for a clash with fellow former K-1 star Jerome LeBanner on July 21 at Dream 5.

jefferson
Jun 10 2008, 09:06 AM
and he still wants to fight fedor ...

jefferson
Jun 10 2008, 09:07 AM
on the ground? (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=13148)

jmc2442
Jun 10 2008, 09:17 AM
its an effective fighting maneuver. I'm all for it.

jefferson
Jun 12 2008, 09:40 AM
def... wrestlers have an unfair advantage in the US because when they do the leg grab from the knees, the sprawler doesnt have a lot of options for counter. if he goes for uppercut or punches he loses that arm for sprawl / leverage purposes. all he can really do is push the other person down and maybe guillotine, but most likely it will be a push down, disengage, and get to feet.

lets see what happens when the wrestlers shoot / grab legs and the free knee is coming at the face. or, what happens when someone employs the fetal defense. have a knee... good day sir


bring the knees

jefferson
Jun 12 2008, 09:52 AM
i really loved the old PRIDE kicks to the head, but the glory days might have passed. i just don't see him taking a fight with a quality opponent unless / until he lands fedor on new years eve as he would like to, and i feel that would be terribly one-sided. numerous fighters have come out recently saying he is dodging them. the latest is overeem:

Overeem Says Stamina Not an Issue, Wants �Cro Cop' (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=13192)

"Mirko has been offered to fight me twice, and he has dodged me both times," Overeem said. "That's why I will get on the house microphone and issue him a challenge in the middle of the ring after I have finished the big Korean."

veganray
Jun 12 2008, 11:10 AM
The real fun starts at about 1:09
JJ tail-whipping (http://view.break.com/517207)

jefferson
Jun 12 2008, 02:56 PM
wow... 2 minute mark, TainT-in-face tap submission. nice

jefferson
Jun 12 2008, 03:04 PM
i really loved the old PRIDE kicks to the head, but the glory days might have passed. i just don't see him taking a fight with a quality opponent unless / until he lands fedor on new years eve as he would like to, and i feel that would be terribly one-sided. numerous fighters have come out recently saying he is dodging them. the latest is overeem:

Overeem Says Stamina Not an Issue, Wants �Cro Cop' (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=13192)

"Mirko has been offered to fight me twice, and he has dodged me both times," Overeem said. "That's why I will get on the house microphone and issue him a challenge in the middle of the ring after I have finished the big Korean."



uh oh... crocop replies:

"Hi everyone, I've just stopped by to comment some statements made by Alistar Overem and his team.

It seems to me that some people should mind their own business. I've never been offered to fight Alistair Overeem. Why would I decline this offer? I came to DREAM to fight the best and I'm looking forward to see DREAM signing more top level heavyweights. Now when Alistair is officially in DREAM, I'll be expecting an official offer from DREAM to fight him and I'm going to accept it with pleasure.

I'm not on vacation here, I train hard and I've never picked my opponents. I fought the best fighters in the world already, I don't see why I should have seconds thoughts about fighting Alistair Overeem? On my way back up I need to fight top level competition and I believe that DREAM is perfectly able to put up a strong heavyweight match-up soon. So it's up to DREAM, let's bring it up."


interesting that he says "Now when Alistair is officially in DREAM.." when he is scheduled to fight this sunday at Dream 4

DiscHof
Jun 16 2008, 02:42 PM
Lots of MMA this weekend, no posts?!

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=13257

Great article. Tokoro vs Uyenoyama was a non-stop fight showcasing what MMA is all about. Oh yeah, Ralek Gracie needs to learn standup. His head looked like a ridgid extension of his neck. Solid ground game though (of course).

Also, Overeem kept his word and called out Cro Cop.

jefferson
Jun 17 2008, 11:39 AM
you're right, got caught up in some kind of golf tourney

dream of course put on a beTTer show than elite xc (nabs)... we saw the most entertaining fight: Tokoro vs Uyenoyama, Marvelous Manhoef a man possessed demolishing the overmatched legend Sakuraba, Jacare finally beating a quality opponent in miller (def exposing his stand up though), a great win for Mousasi, and another technical domination by aoki finished by an outstanding submission by Gogoplata (which i have never seen from the top).

elite xc did show they landed a good hw prospect in herman as he crushed waterman, ninja dominated an overmatched Bonello, nick diaz failed to make weight then used the extra weight and size to beat down Corbbrey, and noons gets a huge early knockout against Yves Edwards (back to back wins against diaz and edwards).

like the xc event wasnt bad enough, they decided to WWE-ify the end by letting diaz in the cage after noons win. terrible... somewhere in a tanning booth, vince mcmahon became aroused

jefferson
Jun 17 2008, 12:11 PM
def possibility coming the july 19th weekend

affliction's opening event (http://www.afflictionclothing.com/banned_july19/) featuring 5 of the top 10 HWs

a free UFC show (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=13271) supposedly in the works to counter the affliction event. however, latest news indicates the axe murderer will NOT be a part of it

and of course, Dream 5 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=13063) 2 days later on the 21st. this will be the best LW show of the year featuring the conclusion of the LW grand prix:

Lightweight Grand Prix Bout: Shinya Aoki vs. Caol Uno
Lightweight Grand Prix Bout: Eddie Alvarez vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri
Lightweight Championship bout: Shinya Aoki/Caol Uno vs. Eddie Alvarez/Tatsuya Kawajiri

3 of these fighters are currently in the top 8 in the world, and after alvarez just beat Dida Amade and hellboy, he deserves at least top ten.

in addition to these fights:

Featherweight Bout: Norifumi "KID" Yamamoto vs. Joseph Benavidez
Middleweight Bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. TBA
Middleweight Bout: Denis Kang vs. TBA
Welterweight Championship Bout: Nick Diaz vs. Hayato Sakurai

and don't forget whispers about crocop v overeem, and Sergei Kharitonov (http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=4184) joining the card

gonna be sick in a month

jefferson
Jun 17 2008, 12:14 PM
btw... 4 semi-finalists for the middle weight grand prix are:

Ronaldo de Souza
Gegard Mousasi
Zelg Galesic
Melvin Manhoef

hoping for a manhoef v mousasi final at Dream 6

jefferson
Jun 18 2008, 10:23 AM
a free UFC show (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=13271) supposedly in the works to counter the affliction event. however, latest news indicates the axe murderer will NOT be a part of it



(un)Official announcement on FREE UFC event 7/19 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=13292), and even more multi-sourced rumors on the rest of the card:

205 lbs: Anderson Silva (21-4) vs. James Irvin (14-4)
205 lbs: Brandon Vera (8-2) vs. Reese Andy (7-1)
155 lbs: Frank Edgar (8-1) vs. Hermes Franca (18-6)
265 lbs: Cain Velasquez (3-0) vs. Jake O�Brien (10-1)
170 lbs: Anthony Johnson (5-1) vs. Kevin Burns (6-1)

phluffhead
Jun 18 2008, 02:55 PM
Can't wait for next months action

accidentalROLLER
Jul 03 2008, 11:38 AM
What's the news Juf? I need your updates so I can read the good stuff.

accidentalROLLER
Jul 07 2008, 01:07 PM
What happened to MMAShare?

jefferson
Jul 07 2008, 02:58 PM
What happened to MMAShare?



not sure, but mmalinker (http://www.mmalinker.com) is beTTers anyways

jefferson
Jul 07 2008, 03:04 PM
goT To be honest, ThoughT rampage was gonna roll over forrest. fought a very technically sound fight and deserved the decision, i had it: 9-10, 10-8, 10-9, 9-10, 10-9 for forrest for 48-46 (not sure how the last judge had 49-46). hope rampage's knee is alright.

this will create some great future matchups between griffin/silva/liddell/machida/jackson

i want to see silva v machida... talk about conTrasT in styles.

jmc2442
Jul 07 2008, 05:25 PM
cote with the chokeout. that was pretty good considering I was worried for him there for a minute.

forrest won, not 49-46. rematch?!? I want one!

jefferson
Jul 08 2008, 09:08 AM
rematch very likely at some point soon.

cote supposedly will get a title shot now... rumors are spider will fight irvin, okami, and cote all in 08 (of course he'll have to win the 2nd)

jmc2442
Jul 10 2008, 01:14 PM
the friggin lineup for UFC87 August 9th is awesome....

St. Pierre vs. Fitch
Lesnar vs. Herring
Florian vs. Huerta
Gamburyan vs. Everson
Kongo's fighting......

Cant wait for this one.
I love watching St. Pierre and he's a great fighter, but I got my five bones on Fitch.... He's an animal in that cage.

accidentalROLLER
Jul 10 2008, 01:20 PM
the friggin lineup for UFC87 August 9th is awesome....

St. Pierre vs. Fitch
Lesnar vs. Herring
Florian vs. Huerta
Gamburyan vs. Everson
Kongo's fighting......

Cant wait for this one.
I love watching St. Pierre and he's a great fighter, but I got my five bones on Fitch.... He's an animal in that cage.


Been waiting for this one. It may not last long, but that should be the best fight in a long time. I'm leaning toward Florian by submission, but wouldn't be surprised by a Huerta knock-out.

jefferson
Jul 10 2008, 02:38 PM
def looks like the best fight on the card

JCthrills
Jul 10 2008, 05:36 PM
There's a very good chance my company will be hosting a UFC fighter in town on August 6th for a meet-n-greet during the Indianapolis State Fair. I cannot say who quite yet but he fought last weekend....

phluffhead
Jul 15 2008, 09:47 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-071508&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns <font color="red"> Nice Rampage </font>

jefferson
Jul 16 2008, 09:07 AM
WOW, and at 1:13.... PM

jefferson
Jul 16 2008, 09:30 AM
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/rampage_arrested#22689

jefferson
Jul 16 2008, 11:02 AM
wonder what he was on? i mean, who flees the scene of an accident in a vehicle with your [censored] picture on the side of it
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/stadium.weblogsinc.com/tmz/images/2008/07/0715_rampage_04_full.jpg

jmc2442
Jul 16 2008, 11:13 AM
guess he thought the camo would hide him.

bruce_brakel
Jul 16 2008, 09:27 PM
http://www.breitbart.tv/html/132723.html

jefferson
Jul 17 2008, 12:56 PM
wow... round 2 (http://www.tmz.com/2008/07/17/round-2-cops-nab-rampage-again/#comments)

jmc2442
Jul 17 2008, 02:09 PM
^^^ WOW. what the he[/b]ll is happening to him?!? I love Rampage... funny guy, good fighter, seems like he's pretty genuine in real life. This is just CRazY.

jefferson
Jul 21 2008, 01:30 PM
what a [censored]ing disappointment. another example of the PRIDE tourney format FAILing. why have the semis and finals the same night? why?

Alvarez upsets kawajiri in the 2nd semi (maybe the fight of the weekend), but ruled he cant participate in the final b/c of eye damage he suffered. hellboy comes in as the reserve (after defeating black mamba) and pounds aoki's face into the mat. aoki cries for the next hour.

alvarez loses the chance to pound aoki for the title, and gets $10K for the semis. hellboy wins the title (after losing to alavarez in the quarters) and wins $100K.

bull[censored]

phluffhead
Jul 21 2008, 02:15 PM
Wow did Tim even get a punch in on Fedor. Thank god I didn't waste my time on that one

jefferson
Jul 21 2008, 04:14 PM
ive never seen him so intent on ending a fight quickly. he and silva showed why they are the top 2 p4p fighters in the world.

hopefully couture and barneTT up next for fedor

fedor is god

phluffhead
Jul 21 2008, 05:02 PM
timmay looked stunned after that arsewhoopn

jefferson
Jul 21 2008, 05:27 PM
sounds a little stunned too (http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Sylvia-Disappointed-with-Loss-1702)

jefferson
Jul 23 2008, 10:37 AM
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080723022614_IMG_1699.JPG

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080723022615_IMG_1702.JPG

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080723022615_IMG_1709.JPG

jefferson
Jul 23 2008, 10:38 AM
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080723022615_IMG_1718.JPG

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080723022615_IMG_3000.JPG

http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080723022615_IMG_3091.JPG

jefferson
Jul 24 2008, 10:20 AM
http://www.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20080724012856_IMG_7825.JPG

awesome pants are no match for the wegian left

jefferson
Jul 24 2008, 10:22 AM
next Affliction event (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-afflictionvegas072308&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns) rumored to take place in vegas on october 11th

fedor v arlovski

phluffhead
Jul 24 2008, 12:43 PM
UFC 88 doesn't look too bad either

http://mmalinker.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=9537

jmc2442
Jul 24 2008, 01:58 PM
st. pierre vs. fitch
florian vs. huerta

thats ALL I care about right now in regards to UFC. those two fights better live up to what they could so easily be.

m_conners
Jul 24 2008, 02:14 PM
Huerta is a bad mutha. One of my favorite fights ever was between Huerta and Guida (sp?).

rhedd
Jul 27 2008, 12:55 AM
It was a great week for MMA, with the Affliction, UFC, and Dream events. Affliction had the star power, but Dream 5 had some great fights, I love HDNet.

jefferson
Jul 29 2008, 05:09 PM
dream 5 was great, but it fell short of what it could have been with Kid yamamoto pulling out, alvarez not fit for the final, and aoki clearly gassed in the final

jefferson
Jul 29 2008, 05:10 PM
Rampage update (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/josh_gross/07/29/quinton.jackson/index.html?eref=T1)

phluffhead
Jul 30 2008, 10:24 AM
Rampage v �The Axe Murderer� Wanderlei Silva at UFC 91
WOW a little soon I'd say

jmc2442
Aug 07 2008, 10:01 AM
is everyone else as amped as I am to see UFC87?!?

potentially two of the best fights ever. POTENTIALLY.

jmc2442
Aug 08 2008, 11:31 AM
UFC87... who will win?

accidentalROLLER
Aug 08 2008, 07:22 PM
I am so amped about the Florian/Huerta fight. This is Florian's 1st real test after losing to Sherk, which I bet he is still mad about. Huerta will be surprised. Florian is a totally different fighter than anyone Huerta has faced. Prediction: Florian wins by submission in 2nd round.

I hope Brock wins, I almost feel sorry for the guy.

GSP is the baddest dude in his division and has been on a mission since his last loss, I think to that Jersey dooshbag. I like Fitch, but no contest. GSP by referee stoppage in the 1st.

jmc2442
Aug 09 2008, 12:39 AM
alright, since Colin went at it after the poll I'll give my rap.

I have no clue. GSP Fitch, do I really want to guess?!? Fitch is an animal, GSP, warrior. florian huerta. I've seen both in OUTSTANDING fights. no picks here my friend. I just hope I see some blood, some kicks, some knees, and all heart.

I watched Ortiz vs. Griffin on Unleashed the other day. Most bogus scorecard ever, but Griffin, wow. I want that excitement tomorrow, LIVE.

especially for my 40 bones. :D

Big E
Aug 09 2008, 10:46 PM
LETS GET IT ON :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

jefferson
Aug 13 2008, 09:44 AM
I am so amped about the Florian/Huerta fight. This is Florian's 1st real test after losing to Sherk, which I bet he is still mad about. Huerta will be surprised. Florian is a totally different fighter than anyone Huerta has faced. Prediction: Florian wins by submission in 2nd round.

I hope Brock wins, I almost feel sorry for the guy.

GSP is the baddest dude in his division and has been on a mission since his last loss, I think to that Jersey dooshbag. I like Fitch, but no contest. GSP by referee stoppage in the 1st.


close... i cant believe fitch made it out of the 1st. florian was impressive, kind of machida-like a lot of the fight. lesnar is a [censored]in bull

spartan
Aug 14 2008, 03:54 PM
like i said before the st. pierre fight, bj penn vs. st. pierre. Who wins?

jefferson
Aug 27 2008, 10:37 AM
hopefully penn, but gsp is looking preTTy unstoppable right now

jefferson
Aug 27 2008, 10:43 AM
enjoy (http://mmanytt.se/?p=706)

#10 should be moved to #1... the camera going from the chiseled, waxed, focused james "chinless" thompson to aleksander "i just hopped off a barstool in the russian slums" emelianenko is priceless. then there's the staredown... thompson tries to intimidate and aleksander thinks about a post-fight vodka

#3 &amp; #4 should be removed

jefferson
Aug 27 2008, 11:01 AM
middle weight semis announced:

Ronaldo de Souza vs. Zelg Galesic
Gegard Mousasi vs. Melvin Manhoef
Middleweight Championship bout: Gegard Mousasi/Melvin Manhoef vs. Ronaldo de Souza/Zelg Galesic

Plus:
Featherweight bout: Hideo Tokoro vs. Atsushi Yamamoto
CroCop vs Overeem (waiting on "official" confirmation)
Yoshihiro Akiyama
Jason "Mayhem" Miller
Ikuhisa Minowa
Sergei Kharitonov
Hayato "Mach" Sakurai


September 23rd

veganray
Aug 27 2008, 11:39 AM
Elite XC Oct. 4: Kimbo vs. Ken Shamrock.

Why they didn't make the Kimbo/Brett Rogers match is beyond me, but what do the masses think about this one. My opinion is that if Shamrock trains seriously (and hasn't agreed to take a dive), he'll house Kimbo on the mat. But I think that one of those 2 initial conditions (hopefully not the second) may not happen.

skaZZirf
Aug 27 2008, 11:52 AM
enjoy (http://mmanytt.se/?p=706)

#10 should be moved to #1... the camera going from the chiseled, waxed, focused james "chinless" thompson to aleksander "i just hopped off a barstool in the russian slums" emelianenko is priceless. then there's the staredown... thompson tries to intimidate and aleksander thinks about a post-fight vodka

#3 &amp; #4 should be removed



So ju know Juff....Snabbaste, means fastest in Swedish.
#9 was brutal.

jefferson
Aug 27 2008, 12:29 PM
TThanks

what about anusuna?

phluffhead
Aug 27 2008, 12:33 PM
I love the sound that kick makes

jefferson
Aug 27 2008, 12:36 PM
Elite XC Oct. 4: Kimbo vs. Ken Shamrock.

Why they didn't make the Kimbo/Brett Rogers match is beyond me


seriously VR? because kimbo will LOSE to breTT and kimbo is by far their biggest $$$ cow. they still have time to prop up an over-the-hill legend for a huge payday / win for kimbo before he meets a ReaL opponent and gets demolished.

kimbo post breTT thrashing is a tougher sell than undefeated

ken hasnt won in over 4 years and has lost 8 of the last 10.

veganray
Aug 27 2008, 12:47 PM
I understand the economic theory behind the lame "match", but the fact that we'll miss a legit KS/BR grudge match for probably at least another year (maybe longer, BR may bolt if he doesn't get a big $$ fight soon) shows EliteXC's disdain for the true fans.

m_conners
Aug 27 2008, 01:09 PM
Cant wait to see Kimbo fight a highly skilled competitor...kimbo will get his teeth knocked the frik out!

accidentalROLLER
Aug 27 2008, 05:46 PM
This is why you should never show off.
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mitchjustice
Aug 27 2008, 05:57 PM
The best thing on the board in a while :D

skaZZirf
Aug 27 2008, 06:05 PM
Is that real?

veganray
Aug 27 2008, 07:34 PM
Nope. From the film "Never Back Down".

skaZZirf
Aug 27 2008, 07:53 PM
ahhh.

jefferson
Aug 29 2008, 09:02 AM
i dont think breTT is happy (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/Rogers-call-out-Kimbo-shreds-Shamrock?urn=mma,104000)

If Ken proves to be more sham [than] rock and Fergi beats him, then the Slice hype grows even greater. Dude is already more myth [than] Sasquatch, Chupacabra and a [expletive] unicorn combined. Kevin is the black Yeti.


hahahaha

rollinghedge
Aug 29 2008, 10:09 AM
Red Bull made me do it? (http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/8500354/Jackson-pleads-not-guilty-to-multiple-charges)

skaZZirf
Aug 29 2008, 11:36 AM
What an maroooon.