I am converting to 100% bent arm throwing. I have been "kind of" playing around with the elements of bent elbow technique for months and months, but I never really committed to the elbow focus until last week.

I have also been working diligently on improving my nose down release. I am very pleased with the progress so far.

This is my video:

Brad Driving (http://www.egpworld.com/disc/brad.avi )

This was about 425' with a Pro Wraith. I was surprised on this particular throw, as I was just trying to be smooth and use the correct technique, and just busted it...

Work on keeping that left arm in... it will increase your rotation speed / acceleration.

One thing I would like to say...

This type of throwing technique is just easier than the old school Stokely/Shultz straight arm "point the pull" type throwing motion.

1. It is easier on your body-I can say unequivocally that this motion, as demonstrated in my video, is the easiest on all parts of my body. This is my number one priority. This would include my back, right knee, chest, etc. Especially my knee, my jabbing of the right side is drastically improved. Since the wear and tear is reduced I CAN PRACTICE MORE...
2. it is easer to attain the correct positions-reaching back with the elbow is infinitely easier for me than reaching back the disc. I believe this may have to do with me being pretty thick across the chest. All of the tension in the shoulders is gone now.
3. Your eye stays on the target longer-I keep working on this. The bent arm throwers that are used as prototypes to copy only take their eyes off the target for a split second, at the full pull back position, if at all.
4. it translates better into your upshot motion and putting-throwing bent arm/elbow only needs to be shortened to become a deadly upshot. The motion is the same. I am getting pretty good at bent arm snapping 80' putts. I have holed several 100' upshots since switching using only a shortened version of my drive motion.

I was surprised on this particular throw, as I was just trying to be smooth and use the correct technique, and just busted it...



I primarily use the bent elbow technique. Slowing down, throwing @ 80-90% power, lots of spin and being smooth will all add distance to your throws. My longest throws, look and feel effortless.

One thing I would like to say...

This type of throwing technique is just easier than the old school Stokely/Shultz straight arm "point the pull" type throwing motion.

1. It is easier on your body-I can say unequivocally that this motion, as demonstrated in my video, is the easiest on all parts of my body. This is my number one priority. This would include my back, right knee, chest, etc. Especially my knee, my jabbing of the right side is drastically improved. Since the wear and tear is reduced I CAN PRACTICE MORE...
2. it is easer to attain the correct positions-reaching back with the elbow is infinitely easier for me than reaching back the disc. I believe this may have to do with me being pretty thick across the chest. All of the tension in the shoulders is gone now.
3. Your eye stays on the target longer-I keep working on this. The bent arm throwers that are used as prototypes to copy only take their eyes off the target for a split second, at the full pull back position, if at all.
4. it translates better into your upshot motion and putting-throwing bent arm/elbow only needs to be shortened to become a deadly upshot. The motion is the same. I am getting pretty good at bent arm snapping 80' putts. I have holed several 100' upshots since switching using only a shortened version of my drive motion.



While you are experimenting with this style, you might try it with a very abbreviated run up. Another advantage of the compact or bent elbow style is no need for a long or fast run up. You can do it easily with a three step X step, or a three step 360 degree turnaround on the tee with minimal movement from back to front of the tee.

While you are experimenting with this style, you might try it with a very abbreviated run up. Another advantage of the compact or bent elbow style is no need for a long or fast run up. You can do it easily with a three step X step, or a three step 360 degree turnaround on the tee with minimal movement from back to front of the tee.



Wow. Dave responded to my bent arm thread....cool.

I use "nose down catch" to practice nose down. It is all about using the least amount of pull back.

Here are the rules.

What may help get the nose down?

1. Throwing hard. Power can force the nose down.
2. Throwing less nose sensitive, less stable discs. Throwing "easy to throw" discs can MASK nose down issues.
3. Using some weird grip. Not necessary.
4. Leaning chest down into the shot (weight forward). Can lead to jamming of the knee without proper form.

You are not allowed to do any of these things in my "catch" drill !!!!!!!

It is easiest to get two players, or you can use a basket to aim at.

1. The disc of choice is a Z or ESP Predator.
2. Stand about 100' apart.
3. Throw with 80' of power.
4. The disc should fly flat straight out from the chest and slowly descend. The "catcher" should NOT be looking at the bottom the disc EVER.
5. The disc should fade flat. This means the Predator will slide left and try to skip. It should not "die" nose up.

You ARE allowed to use three elements to increase nose down:

1. Your wrist angle should be down when the disc rips. The disc should release from all parts of your hand simultaneously. You do not want a "thumb, then fingers" rip. The disc should EXPLODE from your hand (see step #2)

2. Acceleration. Keep you pull very, very,very, very short. You do not want a long pull that SLOWS DOWN, you want a very, very short pull that POPS HARD. This should be a shortened version of the same acceleration you would use in your full drive. I can throw 80' power and never bring the disc behind my front shoulder more than a few inches.

3. One step footwork Start the throw with your feet together (about 45 degrees to the target) and take one step forward and with your throwing arm foot (if you throw right handed, step with your right foot) and throw. this is the same typical step you might take if your were playing baseball catch. Just enough movement to get you moving toward the target. When you step lean forward naturally and get your weight over your lead foot. In this sense, it really is a "catch" step.

Lastly, you throw flat. That means a flat plane to the ground. No hyser, no descending plane allowed. The launch should be flat and forward, straight out from the plane.

This is fun, believe it or not.

Aim 20' right and slide/skip the disc the last 20' using the flat fade.