New Thread for the Park...
The course website is www.wolfriders.com (http://www.wolfriders.com) ... I hope everyone will check it out and let me know what you think. after I finish the sketches for all the teesigns, I will add a scorecard to the site.

The park is getting better every week. We will be framing teeboxes in the next few weeks and hope to get those poured and teesigns installed by the middle of March.

I am trying to keep up with all aces in the park so if you hit an ace, please let me know.

I will be scheduling some workdays soon to finish up hole 15 and any other small clean up efforts. I am also working on plans to add several bridges to the course.

If anyone has any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Now that the course is practically done, I can't wait to see everyone out and about.

the construction has started on the wall. :D

I put two pictures up on the site. I have also added some hole sketches to finish out the front nine and if you click on the "more" link you can see details and add comments.

Awesome job all around - the course looks great and the website is top notch...and don't worry - if I hit an ace, everyone will know about it :cool:

Made my first trip to "Briar", I mean Bryan McCkain Park yesterday and had a great time. the course is going to be a lot of fun. Just needs some more clearing which they are working on and a couple bridges and an elevator on I think it is #5 and it will be just right for an old man to play. Don't get off the fairway or else it will be "Welcome to Briar McClain"!! Go try it and have some fun if you have not already.

Nice job on the web page pretty sweet.

Played for the first time today. First please put some directions on your website. I'll add a link to lodga.com for it. For out of towners, google Longs Creek Elementery to get an address. #1 is behind the school.

Second, we need to do some serious trimming and clearing there if we want to get in in shape for LOSO. Need more clearing around the tee boxes and baskets for sure. Right now, it's just not tournament ready. Definitely need to get the New Braunfels boys involved. I'd recommend anyone who plays it casually to carry some scissor type shears with them to cut briars down as they play. This really helpled at UC.

Third, the layout is nice, the baskets are beautiful, huge trees, great potential. Once it gets beat in, it will be a must play course. Remember Live Oak guys and how rough it was for the first two years, so give it time to mature.

It's going to be a good one, thanks guys for getting this in the ground!

I'm working on a map to the course as we speak. I would like to have a workday this sunday for anyone who can make it. working on hole 15. I beleive there is a mini at the course on Saturday and don't want to interfere with it. Brian is right about the clean up but with a few good work days to clear out the briar... I think it can get there.

i was just in corpus for a workday at waldron park (looking to be a nice 9-holes) and we got quite a bit done. here's the kicker: 12 people showed up (thats like 1/3 of the 3rd coast club members). with that many hands, the work went quick; so if enough people show up, i'm sure a couple of fairways can be knocked out before lunch.

I'm working on a map to the course as we speak. I would like to have a workday this sunday for anyone who can make it. working on hole 15. I beleive there is a mini at the course on Saturday and don't want to interfere with it. Brian is right about the clean up but with a few good work days to clear out the briar... I think it can get there.



I'm down for helping on Sunday ;) You should come out on Saturday for the mini. Hope to see you there....

Jim was it cart friendly or no?

not yet need to build a bridge or two first :D

thanks mcbagger :D

Sorry, I meant "Mclain - reflections", had Nani on the brain doh! I need to run Sunday's morning mini at UC, but I will come help after the mini. I'll see if the tree trimmers are available. Please talk it up at Saturday's McClain mini too, I can't make it Saturday. I have some survey flags, and may go out there this afternoon to help mark walkways from baskets to tee boxes if I can remember the way. That should help on Saturday.

I really want to use this for LOSO guys!!

Chris, I did not take my cart when I played it and I am very glad I didn't. It definately is not cart friendly at this time. There is one place for sure and possibly one other. You have to cross a creek several times. Some are not too bad. I probably will be using my bag on that course for a while. It is a fun course and is going to be great as they make improvements almost daily.

thanks Jim

hole #6 was aced today with a star aero! makes #4 for me.

nani aces only count as .5 of an ace
:D
.5 Congrats all the same.

I think he is talking about Briar McClain. :o

Anybody there to witness that Ace besides you :cool:Congrats

unfortunately no. but it went in all the same. thanks.

Did some cleaning at McLain today... hole 5. Larry and Tracy did some cutting, starting to look good.

Did some cleaning at McLain today... hole 5. Larry and Tracy did some cutting, starting to look good.



The leaning tree on hole 5 was left because the city did not want it removed. I talked to Larry and Shawn about taking down the large tree that was blocking the left side of 5, Wayne and I did this last weekend. I told them the one next to it had to stay for now. I don�t have a lot of heartburn over it because it wasn�t part of the original plan but the city might. On the other hand the trees cut down on 4 today were purposely not removed. They were a specific part of that hole�s design. The skinny oak leaning at the end of hole 9, which was also cut down without consultation, was supposed to be staked so it could become the replacement for the two trees it was next to.

Don�t get me wrong... help is appreciated, but cutting trees frivolously has potential to mess up the design and, even worse, goes against city park mandates. The city made an agreement with Wayne and I on tree removal. We had to get a tree permit to cut down what was needed. There are even several tree species the city specifically wanted us to keep at all cost. We walked the course with the city Arborist and this was given a high degree of emphasis. The removal of trees and having the permit was an integral part in getting the city to approve the current design.

The tee signs are being completed as we speak. The sign for hole 4 illustrated the trees near the basket. This sign is now incorrect. The city has finalized their tee sign order and expect to have the tee boxes in by mid march.

Removing briar is great... but DO NOT REMOVE ANYMORE TREES. I am trying not to be rude because I know it was not done maliciously but seeing the changes to hole 4 was unexpected. All I am asking is people get consent before changing the flow of a hole. Brian previously posted there was a lot of clearing left and I should have mentioned the tree restrictions at that time. If anyone wants to go out and clear anything� please limit your efforts to briar or scrub brush. If you really want to cut something down, we can clear 20 ft each side of the yellow tape marking the center of 15�s fairway.

I'm just the briar clearing guy :) I hate those suckers. I'll talk to Larry today, but I think all they wanted to do now was cut some more scrub trees in each of the fairways, and maybe widen some of the walking paths between holes. When they cut UC up, I put ribbon around trees I didn't want touched, maybe we can do that Sunday afternoon, cuz I think they are going back out there after the UC mini. Shawn I'm sending you Larry's cell # via PM too, you should call him and give him your parameters (they do not have Internet access). They can cut down a small forest in a few hours, I've seen it! ;)

The retaining wall is almost done around the tee box for 1. There will actually be three sections of the wall so the construction will continue for another week or so, but the upper level is all we need to frame in the tee box.

Hope everyone can make the mini on Saturday and the workday on Sunday.

good golfing.

Work Day this Sunday... still 15. If we can get all the way through and there are enough people, we can split and have some people work on the wall in front of 3s tee box and the rest move over to 17.

the retaining wall on 1 looks great... I will try to post a picture of it tonight.

I heard this guy was at work day! I was in Alvin @ the time, I just heard about this fella.

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Easy there rock star, Jesus loves him and you don't even know him.

new site for McClain park...

www.mcclainpark.com (http://www.mcclainpark.com)

And we are going to have a work day this Saturday... show up if you can, we will be out there starting at 8.

there are scorecards on the website now...

You've done an awesome job!!!!

New site looks good.

1 question -

Is this course playable during school hours?
I'd guess yes, but where to park?

Im playing today around 4 starting on hole 5

Park at Friesenhahn park just a block from Knoll's Creek further down O'Connor from 1604. Walk across the street (look both ways), and you'll be at hole 5.

Ima try to make this one. Its such a pretty day.

Played a round with Laura and Coda. Coda 9 down, Jayson 2 down, Coda aced 4 on his second shot, skip shot Star tee-bird. My shot over the basket almost hit it again! Great shot Coda!! :eek: ;) :D:mad:

This weekend we were able to cut in hole 15 completely. the tee box has been moved to the intended position. Don't be scared though, we intent to cut a few more branches to raise the ceiling... and take out a few more trees on the right at the end of the fairway. We will wait for the city to remove the massive brush pile we created before we clear anything else. I was also able to repair and mortar the wall on hole 3. I will backfill it and level the area over the next week or so. please don't walk on the wall until I can get the dirt filled in.

A BIG THANKS TO: Wayne Atkinson, Chris Potts, Matt Farrar, Turbo, Keith and Tamara ( just forgot their last name)... for coming out and working so hard on Saturday.

For future workdays... what time and days work best for everyone... In order to get the course ready for LOSO... we need to have a couple of days with big groups to finish the little things... clearing the briar, clearing some underbrush to make the rough a little less rough, drag trash/cut brush out of the way, cut stumps. If everyone will let me know what works for them... I can try to schedule the workdays at those times.

Also, I have added the ability to post your scores on the www.mcclainpark.com (http://www.mcclainpark.com) website. I will slowly make the page more functional with searches and sorting... but for now you can post your stuff and see everyone elses postings as well.

This weekend we were able to cut in hole 15 completely. the tee box has been moved to the intended position. Don't be scared though, we intent to cut a few more branches to raise the ceiling... and take out a few more trees on the right at the end of the fairway. We will wait for the city to remove the massive brush pile we created before we clear anything else. I was also able to repair and mortar the wall on hole 3. I will backfill it and level the area over the next week or so. please don't walk on the wall until I can get the dirt filled in.

A BIG THANKS TO: Wayne Atkinson, Chris Potts, Matt Farrar, Turbo, Keith and Tamara ( just forgot their last name)... for coming out and working so hard on Saturday.



i noticed the wall on #3 was down but I didnt know if it was purposely knocked down or what. I did see 3 teens mess'in around by the heavy equipment during the week last week...one of them had a fire extinguisher in their hands. Im available to help this Saturday if you are working that day.

I am out for a couple more weekends because of coaching YMCA volleyball for my oldest. About mid March and I am free on Saturdays. I will be playing hopefully a couple of days during spring break. Send me some details of what needs to be done and I will take a pair of sheers and gloves with me over there and do some scrub brushing. Sundays are completely out for me, but Saturday's are good or the evenings after time change.

Wayne and I did some more clearing on 9... stills needs a little more briar removed at the end, but the middle plays much nicer now.

The city is looking to contract out the Tee box install, so hopefully they will be ready to go in with in a week or two. I will try to get another work day set up when I get back from vacation... hope everyone enjoys their spring break.

Saturday afternoon, hole 1 basket, 5 foot Western Diamondback Rattlesnake laying across the path toward #2. I thought it was dead at first, but as I went around it through the brush, I saw the head and then it moved. 13 rattles on it. Be careful, the rain has moved many creatures into new habitat. I only played one hole and threw my drive on hole 2, the rest is another story,.. see ya'll in about 6-8 weeks.. :D:D

I got spam in the comments on the website.... so I have made a minor change to at least slow the stupid ones down. when adding comments, you will now have to enter a security code displayed next to the submit button... it's not much, but it should keep "bots" from spamming the site.

I noticed that today...is there a general comments section, or does it have to be hole-by-hole? I wanted to comment on something, but it didn't apply to any specific hole.

I'm working on adding generic comments without having to do it from the hole details... but it's not done yet.

I am working on getting Bird's pictures on the site and some video he shot during the charity mini he ran in the park. I have finally gotten a video to play and have it loaded on the site. I have only updated the main menu link to the video so try it from their. I will finish putting the tournament pics and adding more videos soon. and I am still working on adding general comments without having to specify a particule hole.

Things seem to be going great... all we need is the rain to stop for a little while so we can get the tee boxes in... and maybe those very important bridges.

it's an added challenge to play without acutal bridges, played yesterday, soupy, but fun to put faith in mud filled branchs to insure safe passage over the creek :D;)

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zach says these are awaiting approval by the city, but that i could share the preview here.
i like em - a big step from falcone's signs, eh? whatcha think?

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Where does the #$*&$! magnet go!!!! :o NIIICE!!! :D

I noticed Jason Archer posted an ace in the scores for hole 18... anyone know what the disc was?

Is anybody interested in playing in a mini on Thursday Start at 5'O-clock meet at pavillion by hole one I will run this one, same cost as normal Sunday mini. Be there or be square.

i beliave it was a teerex he threw.

I hear you....I'm down for a Mini on Thursday :cool::)

I was planning on playing Thursday anyway so a mini at McClain sounds good.

weather permitting

still planning on playing it about 4:15

All 18 tee signs are finished! Kinda! Shawn's gonna check them against the course this weekend, the city is totally zooming to approve them, and they should go to the printer soon. Should be done by Grand Opening. Cool huh? Don't throw in the shady part!! :eek:

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The tee signs look freekin awesome.

mowed hole 1 (almost all of it) today and started to mow 2 and 3. hole 2 is still draining (maybe part of a 5 year plan will be to get an actual drainage way put in). With all the rain I don't see the city getting the tee pads in by April 15.

mowed hole 1 (almost all of it) today and started to mow 2 and 3. hole 2 is still draining (maybe part of a 5 year plan will be to get an actual drainage way put in). With all the rain I don't see the city getting the tee pads in by April 15.



How come the city doesn't mow it? I played out there this week and it is almost as bad as Nani. :( Everyone please email or call San Antonio Parks and Recreation and let them know about the tall grass at the parks (McClain, Nani). I did...maybe it will get done faster this way if we all let them know we are out here playing.

Hey Bird due you have that number handy? If you could post it! Thanks

Hey Bird due you have that number handy? If you could post it! Thanks



Great idea. I say start at the top...Malcom Matthews...207-8480
SA Parks and Rec Director :eek: :D

be nice :)

I called today about Nani. They appreciated the call and said that they were working on all of the parks as quick as possible. Everybody from around the city is calling after the recent rains. From what I gather, they are concentrating on the inner parks because of the Easter Holiday camping, but will get to the others ASAP.

As Brian said, be nice. They will get to it, but the more phone calls that are done right, the more they will see how the park is used and then maybe we will see maintenance done at a more steady rate.

I think the main thing that caught them off guard , was all the rain that happened in the two week period at the end of March. I know it is an inconvience, but SA is large and the P&R department have over 120 parks that they have to take care of, not like just 1 park each that Live Oak and Universal City have and that their P&R can dedicate the efforts to.

How come the city doesn't mow it?



the way I understand it the city still has to get the extra mowing added to the contract with the people who do the mowing. I don't know what the existing mow schedule is but it will have to change.

How come the city doesn't mow it?



the way I understand it the city still has to get the extra mowing added to the contract with the people who do the mowing. I don't know what the existing mow schedule is but it will have to change.



It needs to be mowed and if you are going to be the only one doing it, I would like to help. I can help this Friday after 1:30 P.M. I can take my weedeater out. Let me know if you can go out then. :cool:

That's the way I unserstand it also. I believe that there are two different contracts, one for the smaller jobs and one for the larger fields. The larger one is contracted out through the City of SA maintenance department. These are the big tractor mowers you see doing the drainage ditches, and street and Hiway medians and right-of-ways. I know when Nani first came in, it went unmowed for a long time and the grass and weeks were high, but then all of a sudden it was being mowed on a regular bases, especially after they hydro-mulched. Give them a chance to get on the schedule and time to clean up after these rains.

On another note, the rattlesnake that I saw out there hasn't been the only snake spotted. Remeber that this is new territory for us and that we are invading their space and until more foot traffic becomes the norm, they will stay around, eventually they will leave, but be careful until then.

http://www.mcclainpark.com/grand%20invite.jpg

Fresh off the mouse and awaiting approval by the city... here's a demo of the 2'x3' overview sign for the course. /msgboard/images/graemlins/ooo.gif We tried to get recognition for LODGA's time and effort but PDGA won out as the official helpers (??). Good to see credit to the designers anyway... in the largest font I can get away with!

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9308/mcclainoverviewproofax5.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mcclainoverviewproofax5.jpg)

I think the invitation was mailed out to everyone in the 78247 area code... I got a call today asking about demonstrating how to play disc golf. I don't know what the expected turn out is... it seems like they are playing it by ear when it comes to coordinating the whole thing. Either way... show up, play a round and enjoy the work that has been done so far. tee pads and signs will be coming very very soon...

hey shawn, have the fairways been mowed?

hey shawn, have the fairways been mowed?



only what i've done... and the longer we get this light rain... the longer it will be I'm sure. hole 1 looks good... I got about 1/4 of hole two... the runnoff water is keeping me from doing more.

looks like a little mowing was done today... part of holes 2, 3, and 10 got mowed... still too wet to mow the entire thing... but it does look better.

Shawn, i went out today just to take a look and noticed hole 1 with 2 tee pads! nice work around the area too....2 also looks nice being mowed. Left after looking at hole 2 cause some bum/homeless man/serial killer came out of the bushes wanting a light even though I told him I didn't have one...he proceeded to follow me asking me for a light... so I walked back to me car..he stopped at the pavilion... dude had torn faded jeans,messed up hair,no shirt, extremely dirty and had a weird accent. I was the only person out there btw so I didn't want to take any chances. :D

Dienes Meatho?

Dienes Meatho?



Are You Scared is what he means...

Si

Bag inventory for McClain...Wraith...Roc...Pepper Spray... :o

Tried to make it, got called into work.
I talked with Gaskill he said there was about 20 folk's, so that is good news.
Good job boy's.

I tried too, but couldnt get my poop in a group.

Very nice ceremony, but it was cold!! I came all the way from Dallas for this, so no excuses vatos :D

Good job Shawn, Wayne and crew!

nice ceremony...had fun playing the front 9 with
shawn,wayne,rick,bird,stacy and I think his name is matthew? sorry if I got your name wrong. Too bad about the weather or more people probably would have showed up. The wind made the day interesting to say the least :D

Dienes Meatho?



Are You Scared is what he means...



I would've never gotten "tienes miedo?" out of that without Bird's transaltion. Nice try though, guero. :)

wow played Monday and this park is a jungle right now. I thought it was tough a few months ago man its a killer now!

So, is the city responsible for keeping up the maintenance on the course or do we need to have a work day to clean this up? It is my favorite course but is kinda dissapointing when I show up and cannot play because it is not maintained. :(

I can help out this weekend.

There was an article about the Grand Opening of McClain Park in the Express News today. It is in the Neighbors Section (North West, North East, North Central). Check it out. :cool:

There was an article about the Grand Opening of McClain Park in the Express News today. It is in the Neighbors Section (North West, North East, North Central). Check it out. :cool:



You can read it online as well. Nice Article

Article (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/neighbors/northeast/stories/MYSA042507.1H.NE.discogolf.22396e5.html)

So, is the city responsible for keeping up the maintenance on the course or do we need to have a work day to clean this up? It is my favorite course but is kinda dissapointing when I show up and cannot play because it is not maintained. :(



The city is supposed to keep it mowed. if the regular mow schedule is not enough... I can talk to them about stepping it up. I also want to make sure the park stays playable and in good shape. Are Sundays good workdays for everyone? There will need to be several over the next couple months to make sure the park is ready for LOSO. I am still working on the city to help out with bridges. Otherwise I have a few ideas of some easy bridges to build... just need some charity funds to help cover the cost.

My vote would be for Saturday workdays, since we have a regular mini on Sundays.

My vote would be for Saturday's also and if we need funds to get McClain ready for LOSO then maybe we need to bring that up at the May 12th meeting. We started a Club Fund and I would vote "Yes" to use some towards fine tuning McClain. :)

My vote would be for Saturday's also and if we need funds to get McClain ready for LOSO then maybe we need to bring that up at the May 12th meeting. We started a Club Fund and I would vote "Yes" to use some towards fine tuning McClain. :)


You mean a meeting for LOSO?

So does this park always play so muddy and wet? Oh and is walking across the tree the only way to get to the basket on hole 5

Not always, just after it rains :DTo the right of the downed tree on 5, there are a few boards/rocks to get across. I think this is one of the places Shawn wants a bridge.

My vote would be for Saturday's also and if we need funds to get McClain ready for LOSO then maybe we need to bring that up at the May 12th meeting. We started a Club Fund and I would vote "Yes" to use some towards fine tuning McClain. :)


You mean a meeting for LOSO?



Yes a meeting for LOSO. McClain is one of the courses that is going to be played at The Live Oak Summer Open. We need to discuss how to get that course ready for it.

I aready have plans mysef for saturday but will be out there sunday morning. Anyone who wants to go out saturday... I think the top priorities are clearing out briar on 13 basket and 9 basket. the right side of 17s fairway.

I plan on clearing low branches on 13 and the left side of 17s basket on sunday.

The city may have me design another course and I basically told them that I would consider doing it in exchange for putting more money into McCain Park. We will see.

where is the meeting on the 12th?

Stacey and I will be there Saturday for Sure. What time shall we meet? :) I believe the meeting is at Jimbob and Laura's House in Live Oak. I Think? :confused:

Once the course is ready and well maintained by the city or us, I will start running Saturday Mini's at McClain. :) Can't wait to see those new faces out there. :cool:

I want to help Saturday, but I don't have any tools or gloves...I can be out there about 9.
Saturday minis will be cool - this course needs more exposure.

Stacey and I will be at McClain between 9 and 10 in the morning to help out. Please come out and help if you can. Thanks....

Hope you got in contact with the course designer's before you start takin out limb's and such.
Have fun! Good Work.

Big thanks to Geoffrey M., Stacey P. and Todd P. for your help on clearing that nasty briar behind hole 9. We worked for about two hours and got alot accomplished. You should see those trees stand tall after you pull briar off of them. I think we heard a couple of them say "Thank You" when we were leaving. :) Thanks Again, You're Awesome!!! :D

Sweet, good job guys! :cool:

Yeah, that briar was nasty...there's still a lot that need to be done, and the more hands the better. If 4 of us can clear one green in 2 hours (I think we were there longer than that...seemed it anyway) then it'll take an army to get the rest done in time for LOSO.

Any new word for the city about mowing? The high grass is up to my nipples...I measured. :eek:

I noticed that people have started posting comments about lost and found discs on the mcclain site... and there is some form of lost and found disc thread here. would everyone use a lost and found page on the mcclain site if it gave you a way to post lost discs and then by clicking a "found" button or something sending the loser a contact to the finder?

My main computer crashed last week so I am trying to make due with my wifes computer and wont be able to get to real email or site updates for about a week.

That would be nice, Shawn - good idea.

I work for a HOA management company that is interested in building a course for one of our communities. Could someone please PM me with any helpful information? Course design? Where to get materials? Cost? A contracter to put it in, etc... Anything would help. Thanks!

Stacy, your yahoo acct has mail :)

I work for a HOA management company that is interested in building a course for one of our communities. Could someone please PM me with any helpful information? Course design? Where to get materials? Cost? A contracter to put it in, etc... Anything would help. Thanks!



Sweet, location?

Hey son whats the R stand for?

i think thats the R for the rockets but isn't he a SA fan?

no it's some kind of racing emblem.

has this park been mowed yet? is the city taking care of it?

I was there this afternoon, and it is pretty much unplayable. It is terribly overgrown and is really going to take some serious mowing and trimming to make it reasonably playable.

I was there this afternoon, and it is pretty much unplayable. It is terribly overgrown and is really going to take some serious mowing and trimming to make it reasonably playable.


I will be calling the city in the morning about the mowing as well as the tee pads and removing the rest of the brush... I found an abandoned factory that I think we could "recycle" some materials from if the city will let us in order to build some bridges.

I found an abandoned factory



Wow, I knew the grass was high, but that is ridiculous.

I plan on working in the park on the 9th. I haven't been able to get out there in several weeks with the rain always coming through when I get a chance to work. does anyone know if it's been mowed?

I will be cutting stumps on hole 15 and anything else I can find.

I stopped by today to have a look and its worse than ever. Hole 1 is playable, but anything past hole 2's teebox is chest-high. I couldn't see 2's basket, so I turned around and went to LO.

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I talked to the city today and they have scheduled some time to go out there with a contractor tomorrow. Steve (SA Parks) will go out to meet with the contractor and has asked to see if someone (discgolfer who has played the course) could meet him out there. SA Parks is responsible for the fairways and with no tee signs (yet) contractors aren't sure of the layout.

Anyone or more interested and who have the time please PM me. I have contact information.

I talked to the city today and they have scheduled some time to go out there with a contractor tomorrow. Steve (SA Parks) will go out to meet with the contractor and has asked to see if someone (discgolfer who has played the course) could meet him out there. SA Parks is responsible for the fairways and with no tee signs (yet) contractors aren't sure of the layout.

Anyone or more interested and who have the time please PM me. I have contact information.



I will meet with them tomorrow....

Thanks, Bird!!!!

I will meet with them tomorrow....



Thank you so much... it feels great to see people keeping this park alive. If the weather would just simmer down a little things would be so much easier.

And in response to your PM... I would be glad to. I will write up what I can and send it to you.

Signs are printed and framed. Not sure if they've reached the Parks Dept yet.

Signs are printed and framed. Not sure if they've reached the Parks Dept yet.




Thanks for everything! We will call and touch base with SA Parks :D :cool:

Hurray! :D SA Parks started cutting the grass today! :)

I did not meet with Steve from SA Parks and Rec because he had an Emergency. I did speak with him on the phone and we rescheduled for Friday. He said his guys were going to be out at McClain today so I went over there after work to see how the course looks. There were three guys out there mowing Holes 1, 2 and 10. One of them told me it took him three hours to mow hole 2's fairway. They did do the fairways on those holes but I think they could use a little more. The worst holes on the course are Hole 3 (entire fairway), Hole 4 (Around the Basket Area), Hole 10 (Could mow Fairway Wider), Hole 11 (Needs Mowing), Hole 14 (Really Tall Weeds Around Basket Area), Hole 17 (Outta Control, 8-10 Ft Tall Sunflowers on Fairway), Hole 18 (Tall Weeds/Grass).

All holes need some work but the ones listed above need more. I think we could actually play this course next week if we have a workday with 10-15 people on Saturday. There was a tree that fell on Hole 5's fairway and another large limb on Hole 12. Shawn, What time are you going out there on Saturday?

Didn't see any discs in the baskets, nothing but lizards and spiders in them. :(

I will be out there by 8 am. I will try to bring my mower along with my chainsaw and loppers.

I can make it out Saturday, but will have to leave about 11. See you at 8.

Shawn, could you pack an extra pair of gloves, please?

Stacey and I can be out there between 9-10. We have someone coming out to spray our yard for insects at 8 A.M.

I'll bring my piece of junk mower and weedeater.

If anyone has a water cooler please bring it also. We will bring some water and powerade on ice for everyone.

Kyle hurt her back, but I'll be out with my weed wacker, mower, and lopers. See you all there!!

is nobody from SA playing the waco open this weekend???

So far, we have about 6 people coming out to help. I think Jimbob and Baby are in, too.

We all want a new course to play and more muscle would be helpful.

Thanks you guys...................and gals! :)


Re: Waco--------sorry to miss this great event. :( Get 'em and have a great time. :)

thanks good luck with your work day .. if you post you will bring some beer for after the work is done I bet more people will show up :D

Sorry, I'll be out of town.

i have to work saturday morning till 4pm. anybody going on sunday?

The work day went great. we mowed the fairway on 18 and cleared more around the basket by raising the ceiling on those cedar. cut down the sunflowers on hole 10 and mowed the fairway on 11. Bird and Stacey were going to continue on hole 12. BIG thanks to Dave (Dr. Safety) and Jeff for making it out and REALLY BIG thanks to Bird and Stacey for making it out and bringing water.

If it takes beer to get 10 or 15 people out for a work day... I'll buy. a good work day or two with 10 to 15 people and this course will easily be playable all the way through again. PLUS the more people to call the city and ask them to keep up with the mowing the better.

In other news... the tee signs have been delivered and we will schedule the install as soon as the tee pads are done... which by the way the crew was out this morning forming up tee pads as well. There is a lot of great progress going on in the park. We just have to keep the momentum going.

Thanks to Shawn, David, Geoffrey and Stacey for giving up their time and hard work. It will be appreciated by all.

Stacey and I stayed until 3:30 P.M. and cleared out the rest of hole 12 (what David started) and it looks awesome. :cool: We might have to charge the city for that clearing. :D We also mowed the path leading to Hole 13's Tee. I will be heading out there after work during the week and do what I can in the shade. We need to have at least 10-15 individuals show up to a work day to get more done in less time. This is an awesome course and needs your help so it can get beat in. Again, Thanks to those who showed up. :)

When we left they were still framing Tee boxes and looks like they will be ready to pour very soon.

I dont have any tools...how could I help?

I dont have any tools...how could I help?



Just show up to the next work day. We have tools and your help would be very much appreciated. ;)

Hey, great job everyone!!! The course is looking great. I wasn�t out there to see what some of the holes looked like before SA Parks mowed but, I can only imagine. I do know some were left extremely tall and Shawn, David, & Geoff really knocked �em out. You guys rock!! The open holes were the worst but, the wooded holes didn�t look so bad���.they just need a little TLC and disc golfers to help stomp the ground.

With that being said, I�m planning on doing a little stompin� myself today (6pm). A little playin� and a little cuttin�������anyone care to join me?

Thanks again for all your hard work and time��Shawn, Geoff, David, and Bird. This will be appreciated by ALL disc golfers.


Larry V. or Tracy- A Star Orc was found by Geoff this weekend. I�ll bring it out Thursday.

Stacey, Todd and I cleared Hole # 3's Fairway. A couple of machete's, a couple of hours and a couple of blisters was all it took. Really all joking aside, it was hard work but when I walked back to the Tee Box and could actually see the basket, that was rewarding itself. I will call and email the city about the mowing again tomorrow but more people still need to call. A couple of guys said they saw some hornets on hole three right side of fairway about 1/3 of the way up. Be careful and Thanks Again to everyone that has helped with this course.

first of all... Geoff, sorry for butchering your name in the previous post.

Updates:
hole three looks better, but it still could use some mow action. I am sure it was a lot of hard work knowing what it looked like when you started. a mower would have never gotten through there before the work you guys did.
11 tee boxes have been formed and the contractors were pouring concrete on most of them. only 6 left.

I redesigned the mcclain website in an attempt to make it more user freindly and changed the comments section to a forum. let me know how you like it.
I know a lot of people read the PDGA site and aren't members so they can't post (or at least I think that's how it works)... you can register on the mcclain site and post all you want.
The forum includes a topic for lost and found right now but I am still thinking about breaking it out and creating someway to allow the finder to notify the loser.
The score section is the same but will get a facelift soon as well. Hope everyone is enjoying the weather, the course and the new site.

Wayne and I will be out this saturday to work for about 2 hours and then we plan on attempting to play. don't know if we will tackle the sunflowers on hole 17 or hole 14...

If Joe still reads this thread... did you ever find out how much a stump grinder rents for?

A to Z Rentals (9067 F.M. 78) 659-6601 Has a 25 HP stump grinder for $125/day. If a trailer is needed there is an additional fee...

I got an email from Steve at SA Parks and Rec and supposedly he met with the mowing contractor today. I am not sure what happened but hopefully it will be mowed this week. I will call him and see what's going on.

All but three tee boxes are poured and set (12, 13 and 14 are not). Most still have the forms on them, but I saw a couple guys with a truck heading towards 5's box to clear those out. Will there be steps up to 17's box? It's set a good 9" above grade...I actually played every hole but 17 and had a decent score (cant remember exactly...+3 or 4).

Nice job on Hole 3 and 11...hole 17 is going to take an army.

All Tee boxes are done. some need to be twisted a little to better line up on the holes... but they are in. Tee signs soon to follow.

That's great to hear....it's nice to know someone else is getting the course ready for the soon to come Saturday Mini's. I will be running them and the start date will likely be July 21, 2007 at 9:30 A.M (Date Subject to Change). I am looking at $10.00 Open and $7.00 Am fees. This will be Open $8.00 Payout, $1.00 Ace pot, $1.00 Course Maintenance. Am $5.00 Payout, $1.00 Ace Pot, $1.00 Course Maintenance. Can't Wait.... :) More to follow.............

Sweet........ :cool:I'm down for Sat. mini's! I can't always make Sun mini's so, Sat's are good for me!!!! And when I can't make a Sat, I'll make a Sun.

Way to go Bird........thanks for a variety!!! :)

well this sucks... thanks to all the rain and the other trees pushing on it, the big oak at the end of 5s fairway fell over. What can you do... the hole will still be fun having to play uphill at the end, but it won't be as cool without the oak. Clean up will be interesting as the tree will stay alive and we can't remove it... but we can remove the other trees around it.

That does suck :(

I have picked up 18 4x4 posts, 18 bags of concrete and 18 tee signs from the city... mark your calendars for July 21st. come out and help install some tee signs and do a little course maintenance. Wayne and I are renting a Prodigy multipurpose vehicle to auger holes and will be aligning some tee pads and moving some dirt on hole 9 as well. The more the merrier and the more we can get done.
We should be out there no later than 8 but I will post more definite plans as the date gets closer.

Just to warn you though... every time Wayne and I plan work in the park together it rains the night before.

I read over on the PDGA forum that there will be mini's at McClain park starting in July... is there any way that the start time can be pushed back to say 11am.... the reason for asking is I ride the bus out there, its about a hour and a half bus ride to McClain park from where I live on Fredricksburg road.... I would have to leave my apartment by 6:30 am to be there on time for them...

@slow1der- could you post this on the PDGA forum for me, since I don't have a membership to the PDGA yet to post on the forums, thanks

Eric Atkisson

Eric-
I'm not so sure about pushing the time but, we'd be more than happy to pick you up/carpool. We live off Fred/I10, sounds like we are near eachother. Let me know if this helps. Remember, we'd be more than happy to! :)

So how does McClain look these days? What holes if any need to be cleared? I will start the Saturday Mini's at Bryan McClain Disc Golf Course on July 28, 2007 :). Open $10.00 and Am's $7.00

McClain Workday to install Tee Signs is July 21, 2007. Please show up if you can and help the future of DISC GOLF in the Alamo City. After the Tee Signs have been installed, we will focus on bridges. Thanks Once Again to Everyone who has helped on the workdays. ;)

So how does McClain look these days? What holes if any need to be cleared?



What hole #1 looked like
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What it looks like today
http://i8.tinypic.com/53pcx2r.jpg

WOW....first time a played the course....I thought to myself this course would hold water if it came a big rain.....Looks like I was right.

I think that's the magic of photoshop. Nice job, tho.

I take it the course is a little soggy, then? :D

So how does McClain look these days? What holes if any need to be cleared?



What hole #1 looked like
http://i8.tinypic.com/62ghnb8.jpg

What it looks like today
http://i8.tinypic.com/53pcx2r.jpg



LOL. Holy SH*T WOW......That's a flood plain.... Geese.

So how does McClain look these days? What holes if any need to be cleared?



What hole #1 looked like
http://i8.tinypic.com/62ghnb8.jpg

What it looks like today
http://i8.tinypic.com/53pcx2r.jpg



That's funny.... :D:D

I guess I can try to play 18 with my Hydra

I think they were looking for hole #1
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Don't forget about the tee sign installation... I called home depot and they have the equipement but you can't reserve it... so I will try to get it friday evening for a 24 hr rental.

I took my sling blade out today and cleared about half of hole 17 and around 14s basket. I am going to bug the city about mowing again tomorrow.

They did install the overview sign at hole one in a really nice posting board... and they put in a bench as well.

Hope to see everyone July 21st...

calling all installers... if you have an empty gallon milk jug, bring it filled with water.

can everyone who is planning on coming out to help please post here or send me an e-mail at [email protected]

I'll be there!! 8 a.m., right?

Stacey and I are in and will try and bring a couple of friends. We will also bring the ice chest with beverages too ;). See everyone there.

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well... thanks to mother nature I am going to postpone the install. All this rain will make it impossible to get the signs installed correctly. I will post the new date as soon as it stops raining for more than three days.

its getting out of control!! This rain needs to stop!!

Hole 2
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Hole 2 today..scary
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well... thanks to mother nature I am going to postpone the install. All this rain will make it impossible to get the signs installed correctly. I will post the new date as soon as it stops raining for more than three days.



I was going to start Saturday Mini's on July 28 but the course is still not being maintained by the city. I went out this past Sunday to look at it and after all that rain, it wasn't that bad. It would be playable if the grass was cut and bridges were installed. So with all this said, the Mini's will be postponed until further notice. :( Stay tuned...I am going to start to talk to people higher up the Chain of Command (SA Parks and Recs is not working).

yep, that was my experience with SAPAR. Good luck!

I was watching SurvivorMan the other night, you know the one where they drop the guy into some remote area, and he has to eat bugs to stay alive.

Anyway, he was making his way through a thicket near a creek bed, and I swear I saw a basket in the background.

I think he was on #17.

I have finished updates to the www.mcclainpark.com (http://www.mcclainpark.com) site to allow forum posts and score entries again. Now that there are Tee boxes on all the holes, I deleted all the old scores.

I will be updating the links pages and adding more pictures as time permits.

If the weather holds out a little longer we can schedule the tee sign installs. Yeah...

Is the course mowed? Is it even playable right now? If so does anyone want to play it this weekend?

i'll play if it is decent shape. i have been wanting to play that course for a long time now.

Is the course mowed? Is it even playable right now? If so does anyone want to play it this weekend?



Probably Not. It wasn't mowed a couple of weeks ago. :(

Is the course mowed? Is it even playable right now? If so does anyone want to play it this weekend?



Probably Not. It wasn't mowed a couple of weeks ago. :(



Thanks for the heads up. Looks like I'll be playing at UC

I will be going out to McClain to do some course maintenance during the week after work. If you have some spare time, please go out there and do what you can. The sooner we get this course playable, the sooner the mini's start. :)

Went out to McClain today and it is still not mowed. Some holes playable some not. I am meeting with SA Parks Friday Morning at McClain. If anyone wants to join me please PM me.

Do they need directions? :o:D

So how did the meeting go?
Are they ever gonna mow?
Maybe they could lease the land back to the farmer they bought it from, then the cattle could keep it down.

just venting :D

Talked to SA Parks, after getting District Mgr's involved, action will be taken. I will be out there after work to flag the holes that need the most attention. If anyone has time before me or know of any holes that need the most attention.........please list them here.

Hang in there disc golfers, we'll have a course sooner or later. Stay positive.........maybe it will rub off on others. :D

Aug 25. I have 6 gallon jugs already. same plan as before.
show up at 8 bring gallon jubs of water and we will auger the holes, set the posts and attach the signs. if enough people show up, do a little course maintenance as well.

thanks to everyone who is putting forth the effort the keep the park going and attempting to work with the city to stay on top of things. It's a lot more work than just making a few phone calls and clipping a few weeds. Thanks again.

Schedule conflict: lots of Live Oakers headed to Gonzales on the 25th.

There will be lots of us at the Gonzales Open that weekend. That is not a good date if you want help to show up. Let us know if you can re-schedule.

Is there an echo in here?

How about Sept 8th.

That date is the Disc Golf Benefit for Jennifer Beazley at Twin Parks. I will be able to help with the install but not sure how many others are going to that fundraiser? Count Stacey and I in if you go with that date.

How about Sept 8th.



I can help out that day. Do you need anyone to bring equipment?

Sept 8th it is then... we are still planning on renting the auger. I have 6 gallons jugs and one mixing bucket for concrete. We will still need gallon jugs of water and a bucket or two.

I have a couple gallon jugs and I have several 5 gallon pails to bring along.
Dr. Safety

I'll be there. 8 a.m. right?

I'll bring several 12 oz containers we can use for whatever reason. The only problem is they are sealed and will need to be consumed.

This rain really sucks.....McClain was supposed to be mowed by the contractor today but with the weather like this, I doubt that it did. Maybe next week. :( :( :(

This rain really sucks.....McClain was supposed to be mowed by the contractor today but with the weather like this, I doubt that it did. Maybe next week. :( :( :(


Now the hurricanes will probably start coming in one after. McClain dries to the point where it can be mowed ... here comes another storm. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo

Sept 8th it is then...



I'm going to try to make it. I don't know if I'll be in town, but if I am count me in.

Wayne said he should be a be to make it but Matt will be out of town on a business trip. I think it might happen this time... but with my track record of it raining everytime I plan to work outside... it even rained this weekend and I was just putting together a playscape swingset in the back yard... Either way, thanks to everyone who is planning on comming out. If the course doesn't get mowed within the next day or two, I think I am going to call and complain again. I have spent far to much time on this park for it to just go to crap like this.

Wayne said he should be a be to make it but Matt will be out of town on a business trip. I think it might happen this time... but with my track record of it raining everytime I plan to work outside... it even rained this weekend and I was just putting together a playscape swingset in the back yard... Either way, thanks to everyone who is planning on comming out. If the course doesn't get mowed within the next day or two, I think I am going to call and complain again. I have spent far to much time on this park for it to just go to crap like this.



Stacey and I have been calling the city about the mowing alot. :( We will be there for the tee sign install. See you this weekend.

HURRAY!!!!! Talked to SA Parks and they are out there now. I had to see it for myself so, I went at my lunch hour and YUP.................McClain is being mowed. :) :) :cool:I'll go tomorrow after work to see the results. Steve w/ SA Parks wants some feed back...........i.e. if you think a spot was missed....post it here and I can draft up any concerns to SA Parks. Thanks for all your patience disc golfers.....keep the good vibes coming.

We'll be playing McClain before you know it. :cool:

Best way to test out what got mowed and if they missed any spots is to play. Anyone want to play there tomorrow? I never thought Ild say this but I'm getting tired of playing UC.

I think I will head out later today, about 5:30 if anyone is interested.

Glad to see the interest :) Have fun on what you can but, this mowing job will take a few days...........it's a jungle out there. In due time..... :) :D :cool:

I'll be out there tomorrow after work (5pm) to inspect and while I'm out there.......Hmm?....might have to throw a few! Maybe, I'll see some of y'all out there :)

See you this weekend.



I mean't next weekend. :oTee Sign Install.

The course was mowed for the most part...I played through what I could, then walked the back 9 backwards.

1 - Great shape.
2 - Half the fairway got cut, still pretty soggy
3 - half a fairway, no route to hole 4
4 - the green needs some attention
5 - couldn't get to it
6 - skipped also
7 - good shape
8 - a little overgrown, nothing major
9 - green needs attention
10 - great
11 - a little more mowing couldn't hurt
12 - good for the most part
13 - lots of mowing needed
14 - lots more mowing (I really like this hole, but it needs the most TLC)
15 - green needs attention
16 - green needs attention
17 - there's an 8' wide fairway, lots of mowing needed
18 - skipped, but a path to the green was cut

After teesigns, bridges need to go in on 3, 4&gt;5, 5, and 17. Is the city springing for those?

Sept 8th it is then... we are still planning on renting the auger. I have 6 gallons jugs and one mixing bucket for concrete. We will still need gallon jugs of water and a bucket or two.



Do we need any off road vehicles to haul equipment and supplies to the install locations? If so I shall bring mine.

Played holes 1-10 today at McClain (skipped #2, too wet, small fairway). The city is trying and I am happy to see that. Work still needs to be done but you can go and play most of the holes out there. We stepped on those long thick weeds as we played and the course is actually a little better to play than when we did. Still not ready for minis. :( We'll get there.

Geoffrey had a good idea....we should work on one hole at a time on workdays. All people work on the same hole and if we get done with that one, move on to the next.

something to help get the material to the holes would be nice. I plan on renting the auger still to make things go quickly. I have 9 gallon jugs of water so we will need nine more. Also, Bird, if you can come by my house that morning to pick up half the material... I can't hall it all in my truck in one load.

As for the bridges... the city is not springing for those. They asked that any bridges we want to put in be submitted to the parks department for approval because they will be help liable if they don't meet code or if someone gets hurt. Alma with the parks department is still trying to scrape up some funding to help with bridges, but nothing yet.

have they cleared out the brush piles on 15 and 17 yet?

No brush has been hauled. I spoke with SA Parks a few minutes ago and they plan on going out on Sat with the tractor. Then on the following weekend they plan on getting a community service group out there. Steve said that once the park is to our liking then he can concentrate on other projects like brush piles and any trees that need triming.

No brush has been hauled. I spoke with SA Parks a few minutes ago and they plan on going out on Sat with the tractor. Then on the following weekend they plan on getting a community service group out there. Steve said that once the park is to our liking then he can concentrate on other projects like brush piles and any trees that need triming.



Thanks for staying on top of that. It is appreciated.

Hey Shawn, I will be able to help haul equipment with my truck just need you to PM me your address.

About the bridges....Geoff had another good idea for them. In Kyle, they have those concrete sewer tubes where the water can flow through and people can walk across them. The trees that fell on Hole 5 in the creek have dammed it up pretty good. We need to get that tree and debris out of there. It is causing water to stay in the Park.

The trees that fell on Hole 5 in the creek have dammed it up pretty good. We need to get that tree and debris out of there. It is causing water to stay in the Park.



This should be one of the first priorities, in my opinion. The erosion is already noticeable on hole 7's tee area. The city will most likely have to be involved since that trunk is about 4 feet around. With the water level down it's easy to see that all the water on the course is diverted here but has nowhere to go.

Ok, I stopped by today thinking I could make a dent in the drainage situation, but it's worse than we originally thought. The water doesn't drain where the creek meets the road on the left. It follows the road back toward the tee even with about the middle of the fairway. I'm going to sketch a picture...

http://www.isarapix.com/pix11/1188521453.png

The arrows point to where the water should run under the road. If we could get water to it, it would drain like gangbusters. The problem is the way the ground has eroded there and the height of the culvert. Because of all the debris and conditions in that area, the water reaches a certain height where it just pools and any overflow has to drain back over the fairway. Granted, we have had twice the rain already for a normal year, so it's like the worst case scenario.

I walked across the road to look at the other side of the drainage area, and I see no reason why hole 5 shouldn't look half as good as that park area.

So what can we do to fix that problem? :confused:

So what can we do to fix that problem? :confused:



can we get Steve to focus on this area when he brings out the community service workers... this seems to be a bigger issue than the brush piles. Did he say what he planned on using the community service workers for? sorry if I missed that part of your post.

I think if they could take out all those fallen trees except the big oak. it was intended to be part of the original design before it fell and with the size of it, I just don't think the city would try to take it out. The city arborist would probably pitch a fit and I think it also breaks the city tree ordinance since it's an oak. they were very picky when they gave me the limit clearing permit.

The auger I plan on renting for the tee sign install should come with a trenching attachment. if time permits, I plan on putting a small trench down the left side of 2 fairway to help direct the water.
how wet is that fairway? is there still water sitting in the ditch in the the right of way?

You don't think the city would remove a tree that has fallen, no matter what kind it is?

Hole 2's fairway is soaked pretty bad and smells bad. That is the reason they only mowed the right side. Hole 5 also has lots of water on the fairway. We'll see if all of us can come up with some kind of temporary solution for this problem on the 8th.

Steve with SA Parks came by my office today to go over the site plan and marking tape. We can mark areas in need because, honestly, they have no idea how the park should look. Things are shapin' up...............minus the rain.

Keep the vibes coming!!!!! :)

it seems like the typical "Plan a work day at McClain and it's gonna rain"...

I think it's 40 to 50 percent everyday through the weekend. I don't thing the auger will make it through the mud. does anyone own post hole diggers? As long as it's not raining ON saturday, I say we still try to get them in the ground. Also, let me know who has cordless drills.

as for the tree stuff... I was told that the city arborist if very particular about removing trees, even ones that have fallen. The only thing she didn't care about was cedar. Besides, I think the big leaning oak would look great if all the other trees were removed.

I have a cordless drill.

The Oak tree that fell is part of the draining problem at McClain and I think we should really try to get the city to remove it. Does the city arbonist want to save dead fallen Oak Trees? :confused: Do you have the phone number for him or her? If you do, please send it to me PM.

Besides, I think the big leaning oak would look great if all the other trees were removed.



Have you been out there lately? The oak isn't so much "leaning" as it is "on the ground." I agree it would have looked good, but as it is now, it just looks like a mess of brush in stagnant water.

I say we try to do what we can on Sat.

Talked to SA Parks today......told Steve about the Tee Sign work day and he is planning on getting a crew out there to help and we can help direct on any problem areas.

We spoke briefly about the drainage and if it's the city drainage easement it will have to go. Steve is drafting a proposal to the city on drainage problems.

It's good to see everyone coming together. Maybe, in the future, we can plant a new oak tree on Earth Day or something. I love nature too , but, water back ups are very damaging. We'll miss you old leaning tree :(

I need to get out there sometime this week to mark some problem areas or maybe I'll just wait until Sat.

I know it has rained alot but we need to do something about it soon.......

I went out to McClain today to mark the fairways so the city knows how wide to mow them. I marked what I could on Hole 2 and that was it. The fairway is soooooooooo full of water that is really nasty and stinks when you step in it. Hole 1 is getting there too. I can't even imagine how the rest of the course looks. I say postpone the Tee Sign install and lets still meet this Saturday but work on trying to come up with a fix or temporary fix on getting this water to drain out of the park because this is going to happen with every storm that passes through. Bryan McClain Park is just in a really, really low spot and all the water drains right into Hole 1 and stays flowing in the park. Even with Tee Signs and mowed grass, we still would get to Hole 2 turn around and go play somewhere else because of the water. This is my opinion and I think this should be First Priority.

I don't think it would be this bad if it wasn't for the non-stop rain. Wayne and I worked on the park the entire year last year and hardly ever had these issues.

If the trees need to be pulled in order to help the drainage, that's cool. It's just sad. I love oak trees. I walked the back nine Sunday morning and it was actually in fair shape. it could surely use more mowing. the old deck that had been used as a bridge on hole 14 finally made its way into the creek on 16. The old washing machine moved from the left side of the creek to the right side as well. If we want to postpone the tee sign installs, that's ok with me but I would have a huge favor to ask you Bird... I will send you a PM.

is the grass at least clear enough on hole two for us to try and cut some sort of drainage ourselves?

Is the downed tree the reason it won't drain? If so then could it be pulled or moved enough to allow some draining using a Jeep? If so we can take my Jeep back there and pull it out.

I think I am going to go check this out today ... is it easier to get there from the road or from hole 2?

I called Steve to remind him about the work day.....I left a voice message and asked if he could get his crew to help haul any debris in the drainage ditch. I'll keep y'all posted.......

Shawn - Saturday for the workday, right? 8:00ish? I will be there.

Scott - It's pretty hard to try to explain, I doubt pictures would even be much help. To understand what's happening you really have to see it yourself. The downed tree is not THE problem, but it isn't making matters any better. I was surprised when I snooped around and saw what was going on there. It's a mess, but nothing we can't fix.
The best way to hole five (coming from 1604) is to pass the school and take a right into the park's parking area (under the power lines) and cross the street. the grass is a little high, but don't think about snakes and you'll be ok.

Stacy &amp; Bird - way to stay on top of things with the city. Thanks, guys!

Scott - It's pretty hard to try to explain, I doubt pictures would even be much help. To understand what's happening you really have to see it yourself. The downed tree is not THE problem, but it isn't making matters any better. I was surprised when I snooped around and saw what was going on there. It's a mess, but nothing we can't fix.
The best way to hole five (coming from 1604) is to pass the school and take a right into the park's parking area (under the power lines) and cross the street. the grass is a little high, but don't think about snakes and you'll be ok.


Think I'll bathe in deet and then go check it out today.

Bird - Nice job on marking the 2nd fairway. When it gets mowed the that line it will be nice.

All - I went out there today to investigate again. The drainage problem is bad but I don't think it is related to the downed trees since it drains closer to the tee box. Some of the park is draining correctly. I went to the other side of the road where it drains to and there is running water over there, so it is draining. The problem is the stagnet water from near 5's basket that also goes past all of hole 6 and near the tee box for hole 7.

How do we divert that stagnet water to the area that is draing correctly? Once diverted how do we prevent it from happening again each time it rains?

Also, do we have a task list of things that need done? This may just be the project manager in me (that's what I do for a living) but I think we need a task list of things that need to be done. This will provide a couple of benefits:
1) Anyone of us can look at the task list and pick things off one by one on non-work days in our spare time.
2) By documenting the tasks to be done, we make sure they all get done.
3) On work days it will help make sure we a lot of stuff to do. So if the city has a work crew out there we can just give them a list or partial list of task and say have at it.
4) Will allow us to keep a record of all the work we are putting into the course so the City and others know we are serious about this course.

So if you all think it is a good idea I've created an online task list for us all ot use. It is free. Here are the details:
URL: http://www.onlinetasklist.com/
Username: AlamoDiscGolf
Password: McClain

It is pretty self explanatory on how to create, edit, delete, and close a task. I added one open task and one closed task to show how it works. Feel free to have at it by adding tasks. Or another thought is for whoever runs the website to put a task list on there that some of us can access. Either way I think a task list is a good idea.

Enough rambling.

Great post, Great Ideas. :)

Steve C. from SAPAR is asking what if any tools that we may need on Saturday? If you can think of anything we can use, please post it here. SAPAR will have a volunteer group out to assist with anything that we need accomplished. :) He is going to talk with Public Works to see if they can get Heavy Equipment out there Saturday to remove the debris in the creek "really quick". I think we need weedaters on saturday to take care of some of the shaded holes that the grass is not too bad on. It's great to see the city so involved finally. :eek: :) :D

love the task list... add just a few items that have been on my list for a long time. thanks for setting that up, I think it's a great idea. I do project management as well and task lists are very important.

Oh I had another thought. If the back nine is draining better should we focus are efforts (at least the city's mowing, trimming, pruning efforts) on those holes to get at least 9 playable?

Just one more thing on the task list. If you complete a task, just open it up for editing and put a note in the description stating who did it and what you did. Then mark the due date as the date you did the task. Then finally close the task.

Nice job adding all those tasks. I think I'll head out before the mini today and knock 1 or 2 off.

Hey, I haven't had time, yet, to look at the tasks. However, I did talk to Steve and we are getting the help we need. I will inform him about the task list............Great idea, by the way.

Thanks to everyone for their efforts. I'll email Steve tonight and show him the way................

I think we can do something simple on hole 3 as far as a bridge goes... there is a section to the left as you approach the tee box that is narrow and would support a bridge like this. it was the original fairway before the property line became an issue. It's basically two I beams in concrete footers with teated 2x6 bolted to the top and then teated planks screwed to the top.



http://www.mcclainpark.com/images/hole 3 bridge.JPG

the same thing could be done on hole 16 and 14 as well...

Shawn

Add a few hand rails and it would probably get through the city without problems. Do you have access to Autocad or any drafting software?

and then when we want to get really fancy we can try this on hole 5 :)



http://www.mcclainpark.com/images/hole 5 bridge.jpg

Shawn

Add a few hand rails and it would probably get through the city without problems. Do you have access to Autocad or any drafting software?



I am using 3d studio max... SAPAR said they would send me the city codes for compliance with handrails and stuff... but I have not gotten that yet... that was also several months ago.

not that we have an extra $1500 laying around but there are companies out there that make things like this


http://images.egardenbridges.com/mgen/digimarc.ms?img=master:DNV002.jpg&h=400&w=400




the city also just built a footbridge in camanche trail park near the library... supposedly they could make another one for McClain if they could find the funding in their budget

If you want a cheap easy solution, take two wooden telephone poles and cut them to the desired length and use them as the horizontal supports. Bolt or screw rail road ties or some 2x8's to the top of your telephone pieces and use them as walking boards. There is a course in San Marcos that has a bridge like this on it and it is used to cross a water filled ditch on your way to the next hole.

Hey what time are you guys starting tomorrow? Also, what kind of attire should I be thinking about? :D JerryChesterson told me pants and long sleeves? YIKES!! too hot for that!!! :p

Pants = yes.

I'll be out there about 8:45. I would be earlier, but I have to wait for the post office to open at 8. I'll only be there til about noon, after that I'm off to Austin to go house hunting http://www.isarapix.com/pix1/1189178551.gif

Talked to Steve (12:30pm) and we are having forward movement. I sent a list of what we need for tomorrow:

weed eaters
mowers
loppers
saws
rakes
shovels
post hole diggers

He is going to bring all that out. The crew will be out there at 8:30am. I also, sent him the link for task ideas.

See y'all manana :) :cool::D :D;)

Hey what time are you guys starting tomorrow? Also, what kind of attire should I be thinking about? :D JerryChesterson told me pants and long sleeves? YIKES!! too hot for that!!! :p



Wear shorts...I'm sure there will be a job where you can wear cool clothing. :) :D

Other options:
http://216.248.192.55/Metrotest/Images/Photos/thumb_972005Golden_Gate_Bridge-s.jpg


http://www.londonarchitecture.co.uk/Images/TheCity/TowerBridge-001.jpg

or
http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/places/images/photos/photo_lg_westvirginia.jpg

http://sybaris.rowrr.com/myspace/millau-bridge-france.jpg

Stacey and I will bring water and powerade for everyone. We may even bring some other beverages for after the work is put in and we can play. :cool::)

I'd bring shorts and pants, just to be on the safe side. And an extra pair of shoes.

Does Tony ever post anything useful? Wait, do I?

Whatever, I'm just looking forward to sleeping in tomorrow.

7:30 is sleeping in, right?


























Hmm, after review, I guess I don't...Cheers, Bender!

Okay, today was a great workday at McClain as we had around 10 Disc Golfers and about 15 Community Service workers show up. I believe all Tee Sign posts were installed and Stacey and I will finish the rest of the actual signs tomorrow. Lots of mowing and weedeating went on. When we were leaving I walked through some of the holes and they look great. We also dug small trenches to allow water to drain out of 2's fairway. Steve C. with SAPAR called Stacey this evening and told her that there will be a work crew out there on every Saturday for the next 4-6 weeks until everything gets done. :) Johnny from SAPAR will be out there tomorrow with the big tractor to do some more mowing, maybe 2 will be drier so he can mow some of that. This is all great news and I am sure the city is going to come through and start maintaining the course. Thanks to all who helped out today, You Guy's ROC!!!

Who owns the post levels? I have one and I left one on Hole 2. I will check if it is still there tomorrow.

the post levels are mine. it WAS an awesome work day. The next time you talk with Steve C. remind him that here is still old brush to be picked up. Especially at the end of 15 and on 17. Johny probably can't mow 17 if they don't get the old piles out of his way. Big thanks to all you showed up.

Yessir! Those community service people worked their butts off with those post hole diggers. We should get those that were interested out there and have them enjoy the fruits of their labor.