OK so here we go.This was an idea Sept 06.Too short a notice to get it done.Now we have time.Braggin rights are on the line.FORMAT IDEAS.6 8 or 10 man teams?(Each team must have at least 1 Woman,1 Master. I'd say Grandmaster if everyone thinks they can scrape one up.I know we can and NW AR can also.)The rest of the team can be open.I don't wanna see a possable team not show cause they are missing just one person.So OK.By the end of the month we can decide the number of players and divisions to be filled.Entry at least $25.00 per player.I'd prefer $50.00.To be decided as well by the months end.9 hole match or 18(Depends on the number of teams and course by then)There could possably be 18 holes at DiamondHead by then.The owner mentioned buying 5 more acres last year and another 9 was in the plans.The teams I see showing are WAFDA,NWADGA/TDSA/OKCITY.Little Rock could buy in,Texas could show.Two teams from the same area could show(Tulsa?)The invites are for anybody who could put one together or TWO.My hopes are this. 10 Man Teams.$50.00 per player($500.00 Per Team)At this rate with the right prep we could do like Snapper does in San Diego.Every Team member gets a colored shirt(Colors to be decided team members)Custom Disc,Killer Bad Lunch and camping paid for the weekend(SAT NIGHT) .With just 4 10 man teams that's $2,000 in entry.With a budget of $1,000 for all the goodies(Which could probably include a Keg /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif) The winning team could walk with $1,000.Ideas? Suggestions?Let's do it.Oh Yeah I forgot to mention the Trophy.My thoughts are one monster trophy.To be taken home for the year of the win.It comes back the following year to have another winning teams victory engraved on it(I think Evan can hook us up with that beauty)SEE YA!!!!! :cool:

Sound's pretty cool to me!

I would make it at least $50 per person

That all sounds good :) lets talk about the team.

To be fare would it be something like this?

2 Am
2 Adv
2 Pro
2 Master
1 G master
1 am or pro Female ( prefer to see one of each )

You made a comment about "Each team must have at least 1 Woman,1 Master. I'd say Grandmaster if everyone thinks they can scrape one up.I know we can and NW AR can also. The rest of the team can be open."

With what you have said there 1 women 1 master and 1 G master that leaves 7 pro players. Little Rock area does not have that many pro players. where as tulsa or texas could make a strong team that would destroy alot of other teams.

lets argue out the format of players :)

I would suggest 5-6 man teams. It would even be hard for Tulsa to put together two teams for traveling pruposes.

I don't even think Fayetteville could put together a 10 man team. Do they even have that many at their minis?

Lets be realistic and look at 5 man teams. ;)

1- Pro
1 - Pro master
1- advanced
1 - adv master
1- woman (any division)

I don't know if OKC can get a Grandmaster.!?....I know OKC has a master.

Make it 6 per team and add one more Pro.

DJ is OKC's newest Grandmaster :D

Wow......I didn't know that he was 50

He will be in Sept. so he is eligible for GM this year..I think Mike Barton may also be GM status

I like the 6 man team idea.2 Pro,1 Pro Master,1 Advance,1 Advance Master,1 Woman.This is why we're discussing it now.A team may recruit.(Say someone can't make the numbers from one area can borrow from another)It would be cooler if we were all from the same area.Doesn't have to be so.Also the ENTRY.$25.00 or $50.00 ?That's $150.00 per team or $300.00.See the way I look at it is this.We're gonna spend money on several things.(Camping,Food,etc etc)If we are responsable for our own blah blah blah.Then $25.00 would be fine.I would like to see each team have it's own COLORS and stuff.Like I said before.Snapper paid for alot of things at $50.00 per player.At $25.00 it can be handled by each team" Captain."The way we did it in Cali is this.We played match play type minis to determine who was in.In some areas that's gonna be a given.In others where there's more than enough to make a team you may wanna have a specific type of qualifyer.Lock down the dates to qualify.Then always have a backup player or two to fill in if nessessary.No Changes will be allowed after a team has begun play.SO! If your hungover and whining.You either forfit or drag #$*&$! thru it.6 teams would be killer.Little Rock/Ft Smith/Fayetteville/Tulsa/OK City/Texas.If anybody else wants to get in so be it.So now we're looking at(If we charge $150.00 per team)$900.00 to the winning team.(Winner take all)That's $150.00 each!Plus braggin rights and the "TROPHY"This trophy will be carried home each year by the winning team.I'll get WAFDA to spring for the trophy somehow.It'll stand at least a few feet high.One Bad Mo Fo!!!9 Hole Matches?Or 18?9 sounds good to me.So you'll play a couple matches Lunch then a few more.WE COULD do 2 Matches per team/That's 5 matches one day followed by 5 more the next.Can you handle 45 hole in a day? Remember how fast DiamondHead plays.AND you can't quit before the round ends BTW.If you tie you'll be adding up the total of all holes won.Even then it plays fast.It's not like you'll be playing BlackHawk..Comments?TEAM CAPTAINS?(I''LL TAKE THE FORT)Got half the team arranged already. :D:eek: :p :cool:

He will be in Sept. so he is eligible for GM this year..I think Mike Barton may also be GM status



You are right about both of them. :)

... more OKC GrandMaster players : Jack Wilson , Brent Edwards , Mike Barton ... (Pro GM) ...
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... also again ... I don't think the $$$ amount of payout returned to the top Team(s) will be that big a factor for participation ... it's the "bragging-rights" ... the ownership of the "Victory Cup" ... the fun of competition ... especially if this format turns into an annual event ... some ca$h-payout , yeah ... but you can use most of your entry-dollars and resources to make it a great-reputation , can't-miss , fun-for-everyone EVENT ...
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If we have a Grand Master field it may have to be Pro.Advanced Grand Masters can step up if they want the challenge.And i'm not saying this because of Eddy.I don't know where he'll play(If at all)I may put him into the Pro Masters field so that I can play Pro.Aren't there more Pro Grand Masters than Am?If not we'll simply flip it.I've also got a Senior Grand who'll classify as a Am Grand.Get it?LET'S DO THIS.Whoever can kinda make up a team.With a Pro Grand or Am Grand. (Don't have to tell us who the players are right now)Just show of hands from each area interested ,Can you put together a team?(Forrest,I was posting while you were.Good points.)There HAS to be a majority vote on this.Yeah sure we'll tick someone off.BUTT! I want to see everyone involved with putting this together.Like I said before,By the months end.We need to have the guidelines in place.Then we can lock down the weekend and rules.The weekend I was thinking about.Last year it was one week after HOTB.I know there's not alot of free weekends anymore(**** the growth)But this particular weekend.Good weather still,Good rates at the camp grounds,Not a thing(As last year had it)going on.Alot to be done here.And yeah,The BRAGGIN rights and TROPHY are the ticket.But the cash is the sweet stuff on the top.I can see some killer teams coming together.This could get heavy.

Sat Sept 22nd.Weekend after Hell On The Border.(Sept 15th &16th 2007)I've been thinking about this.(Duh!)6 Teams.6 Players per team =36.OK 4 players per hole x 9 =36! 9 Hole Match x 5 = 45 Holes!(ONE DAY EVENT.)Start at 8:00 am.3 Rounds of 9, LUNCH, 2 Rounds of 9. BBQ/Trophy Presentation/PARTY!!! Then sunday we can play anything we like(Skins,Doubles,Yadda Yadda Yadda)And if anyone has a long drive ahead of them they can get a decent start.Plus! Playing sunday morning with that nasty hangover won't be so painful. :DI'm feelin it.Suit up losers.The pain is in store. :D:D:D:D

Is Diamond head big enough for all these people in one day? Is it big enough period?

It is currently a 9 hole course. As for overall room, YES, there is more than enough room for campling. The have a few cabins and a couple that will sleep around 20+.

There was only about 5,000 people there for memorial.As for the course.9 Holes with PLENTY of room to set up as many as we need.Matter of fact.There's some areas that would make even better holes than there are now.SPLASH!!! :D

Oh Yea!

The floating hole.

Basket on inner-tube floating down the river, better make that putt quickly. :D

Nah see,If your floating behind it in a raft.You'll get at least 60 seconds.(But this one is also done with all the other teams throwing at ya from each side of the river)Kinda of a Guts / Golf hole.Helmet required.

As long as I am next to the basket, I'm safe from you. :D

Your NEVER gonna be safe from me Wise.But if telling yourself this makes the denial easier.It's OK.I understand.That spankin you got from the Arkies at HOTB still stings a little doesn't it.Let's see.Eddy/Pitch/Watson.Yup! A" MAJOR" Arkie whippin.See I don't have to cross the lines.You just bring it to us. :DAnd don't let the Team Challenge scare ya.(I predict Arkansas)You'll still have fun.I suggest extra padding for the water hole. ;)

Home course, home players, home town routes, yada, yada, yada............................................

Funny, I can't find ay results of you wining any cash out side of Arkansas last year.

You need to quit ranking yourself on whats in your back yard and step out once and a while. and when you do, at least show up on time and don't make the others on your card wait on your arse. :o:D

Come on over to Black Hawk, I'll play you straight up, you name the amount $$$. :o Before you get out of there, you'll think you were playing whack-a-mole instead of disc golf. :D

I really don't think you would like the results of Oklahoma vs. Arkansas, we spend more time golfing than chopping wood or plucking chickens. :o

Who has more $$$ won in 06?Yeah that's right Am Boy.As for the Challenge at BlackHawk.Your On!Team Challenge?YOUR TOAST!!! :cool:

I'm going to start working on a team...

So is the team going to be set at 6 man?

Screw the team challenge, buck up, pig boy! :o

Don't think you can handle me by yourself? :o

Yea, you played pro all year and placed in three events. WhooooooHoooo!
so whats your record against me straight up?

Yea, I don't think you'll want to bring that up. :D

Yea, I don't think you'll want to bring that up. :D



:o

I think OKC will be able to get a very good team going!

Looks like i've got some buisness to attend to.OK Wise.$5.00 Skins.18 at ANY 1 of your courses.18 at ANY one of mine.And a $50.00 BONUS overall.There's your challenge.I'll drive up there next week.You come down the following.Suit up!!!

:oYa'll should do it at Horseshoe, let me hold the money for ya'll :D

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Sounds fine to me.We'll do 18 at $10.00 per hole.How's that?(Oh Dave is out gettin his hustle on.Blackhawk 3:30)Let's see.Every sanctioned event entered.CASH! One 1st ,Two 2nd's.Wise,1 Pro event,NADA!Shoulda stayed AM.Signed,Pig Boy.Sooieeee!!! :D

I will take you up on the bet Pitch!

Sounds fine to me.We'll do 18 at $10.00 per hole.How's that?(Oh Dave is out gettin his hustle on.Blackhawk 3:30)Let's see.Every sanctioned event entered.CASH! One 1st ,Two 2nd's.Wise,1 Pro event,NADA!Shoulda stayed AM.Signed,Pig Boy.Sooieeee!!! :D



Good post.

Wise you got your work cut out for you, Pitch is on a mission to kick some Okie butt! Pitch you probably already know this but I can tell you from experience that Mr. Wise has taken money from Tulsa's worst players to Tulsa's best players, he always seems to find a way to pull out the Dub...salty old man :cool:

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If this happens I will bring my video camera out and get some footage.

You know the more I think about it the better Horseshoe sounds.So Wise and anybody else with the pockets.I'm in.$10.00 per hole.Straight up.Nothin overall.Better bring a couple hundred extra if you wanna play with these boys.If the Ice Bowl is Sat.We'll do this Sunday.Long Course.10:00 am.(Evan! Brenda an I will be there.Thanks for the Bed)

We can do it up here as you first mentioned. I won't be at the Ice Blow this year. :(
Watson, Ron Robertson and I have a big trip in march, I'm saving for.

As for no pro cash, you didn't look very well. My 2nd Pro tourney, got 4th and into the skins match with open players and thanks to Coda, pulled out another $150 + my $80 for 4th.

Bring you money up here, $5 per hole, double 9 & 18 for an even "C" note. I've taken money from many players better than you. :D Waaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy better than you. :o

But be sure to leave that **** little kid of yours at home! :mad:;)

So be it.There are some other folks wanting in on this.I think it'll be better just the two of us.Maybe a caddie or two just to keep an eye on it.Besides i'm gonna need someone to talk to.Your whining is gonna drive me crazy.Oh we want to discuss the beat Wise situatiuon.1st Talequah,2nd Horseshoe,(You weren't even close to the pack)3rd HOTB.You got me at Blackhawk.And Chandler.(Lost keys and MAJOR Hangover)Chandler was a blast.I really didn't care.I was into the party.As for Waaaaayyyyy better golfers.I'm sure your losses aren't advertised as much as your wins.What happened yesterday?See we wouldn't have known about that one unless someone else posted it.Oh yeah,Landon said hi.I'll be there soon Wise.I'll let you guys thaw out.Your gonna get hammered with the ice in a couple days.Then i'll be there.Make sure that back stays in tact.Don't wanna have you blaming it on that. ;)

What happened yesterday? Bougher, thats what. He kicked the crap of both me and Nicholson. He just toyed with us and he still shot a 54. ;)

As for our record, you can chalk horseshoe up on my side as you are Chandler, party and hang over. Thats just what Horseshoe is. :D

And I don't have to advertise my losses, the players around here do that just fine.
But I can assure you, in head to head matches, I have more wins than losses. I've lost a few big matches here and there but taken out a few Goliaths also.

As for the back, well thats always a hit and miss. I can go months with out any trouble, then BAM, hello, remember me?
****, I hate it whe it reminds me.

If you let Landon caddie, I'll just concede because thats just not right and you know it. :D

Make it 2 Pro's, 1 Adv: 1 Intermediate(am): 1 Woman: and 1 Master.!.!.!

OK folks.Here's how it's lookin.2 Pro/1 Pro Master/2 Advanced/1 Advanced Master/2 AMs'/1 Woman.Grand Masters need to speak up.This can either be a 9 or 10 man team.See the GM position can't be easily replaced.If you only have one and he drops out your screwed.So if we vote on this and it's final for the GM.You'd better be sure he's gonna show.I'M REALLY THINKIN 9'S THE NUMBER.$25.00 ENTRY(INCLUDES THE SHIRT)9 HOLE MATCH.WINNER COLLECTS $150.00 PER TEAM THAT SHOWS.(If we collect $225.00 from each team.I should have enough to cover the shirt and buy up a whole mess of chicken and trimmings to throw it on my smoker for a sat night meal)Plus there's the cost of the TROPHY.I'm really gonna make sure this is a peach.Evan will be in on it.You have seen his stuff.It definately kicks.RATINGS?This is supposed to make the playing field level.We all pretty much know who's who in the DG arena.I don't think this is too important.And i'm not wanting to complicate it too much.Now one thing you havn't noticed on the team.Juniors.The reason i'm not including them is this.This weekend is gonna get a little crazy to say the least.I'm not wanting to influence or make it a point to see a bunch of us doing things in front of the lil ones we shouldn't be doing.This is a big kids weekend.If you decide to bring a little one.Please understand the conditions probably aren't gonna be suitable for kids.Use caution.You never know what might happen here.As I see it.This will be the best way to end a great year of golf and compettion.Alot will happen in 2007.I see alot of great things in store.What better way to top it off.SEPT 22ND IS THE DATE.One week after Stillwater.Any objections?

I'VE GOT MOBILE TALKIN THIS UP!!!Oh yeah the payout is wrong.Based on $50.00 per player and 9 Man Teams.The winning team would collect $250.00 for each team that shows!!! That's $2,000 if we get 8 teams.(9 or 10 man) .$200.00 per player.Waz wrong wit dat?Better get crackin.Flyers just around the corner.

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I'VE GOT MOBILE TALKIN THIS UP!!!Oh yeah the payout is wrong.Based on $50.00 per player and 9 Man Teams.The winning team would collect $250.00 for each team that shows!!! That's $2,000 if we get 8 teams.(9 or 10 man) .$200.00 per player.Waz wrong wit dat?Better get crackin.Flyers just around the corner.





Waz wrong wit dat?

Pitch is this ^^^^^^ more of your tournament math?

$50 Per man x 9man teams =$450 per team x 8 teams = $3600 / 9 = $400 per player.

where was the extra $1600 supposed to go?

I know you mentioned shirts and chicken but ****!
$1600 is a lot for both. 72 shirts x $10 = $720
That would leave $880 for chicken and a trophy, take out $75 for the trophy and you still have $805 for chicken. Take out $100 or even $200 for kegs and that still leaves $605 for chicken. At $2 per pound that gets you about 300lbs of chicken.
****! :o

Howmuch chicken do you need or does each player get one for a trophy?

I can eat about 5 lbs of chicken ........ run with it pitch !!!

We Want chicken !! ( kinda reminds me of a W.S.P. song )

Well here's another thing to account for.Camping fees?I don't know the amount of this.Also.If I can swing it I want to add some other goods to the players packs.I haven't priced them yet but in San Diego we also got a custom stamped disc.You know there's not any money left over after I run a tourney.I give it all back and then some.Just like eatin $85.00 from the Eddy Bowl.Relax Wise.$250.00 per team(If we make the numbers)Plus all the goods and trophy will be a good reason to come back the following year.Now all you have to do is win.You will be there.If you don't make it i'll personally have to whup up on ya.As for your post Ash.I don't get it.What is your question.

I'VE GOT MOBILE TALKIN THIS UP!!!Oh yeah the payout is wrong.Based on $50.00 per player and 9 Man Teams.The winning team would collect $250.00 for each team that shows!!! That's $2,000 if we get 8 teams.(9 or 10 man) .$200.00 per player.Waz wrong wit dat?Better get crackin.Flyers just around the corner.





Waz wrong wit dat?

Pitch is this ^^^^^^ more of your tournament math?

$50 Per man x 9man teams =$450 per team x 8 teams = $3600 / 9 = $400 per player.

where was the extra $1600 supposed to go?

I know you mentioned shirts and chicken but ****!
$1600 is a lot for both. 72 shirts x $10 = $720
That would leave $880 for chicken and a trophy, take out $75 for the trophy and you still have $805 for chicken. Take out $100 or even $200 for kegs and that still leaves $605 for chicken. At $2 per pound that gets you about 300lbs of chicken.
****! :o

Howmuch chicken do you need or does each player get one for a trophy?

You can keep my part of the chicken, beer, shirt and all that stuff and I'll take the $400 if we win(OKC)! :D:D......j/k

Hey if you guys wanna go that route cool with me.I just figured I could put together some nice players packs and handle the food and party for all.Less work for me if I don't.It actually came down to about $20.00 a piece for what(Camping fees,Shirt,Food,Possably a Disc ,Brew etc etc etc)I'd probably be cuttin it pretty thin at that.But in a bulk rate I figured I could get it done.You guys make the call.All your gonna need is to pay for the camping,The XTRA meal I was gonna supply,Whatever beverages ya drink up Sat Night.Think ya might spend $20.00 there?You don't have to have the Custom Stamped Disc and Matching Shirts.Just thought it would be cool.Show of hands.

Hey if you guys wanna go that route cool with me.I just figured I could put together some nice players packs and handle the food and party for all.Less work for me if I don't.It actually came down to about $20.00 a piece for what(Camping fees,Shirt,Food,Possably a Disc ,Brew etc etc etc)I'd probably be cuttin it pretty thin at that.But in a bulk rate I figured I could get it done.You guys make the call.All your gonna need is to pay for the camping,The XTRA meal I was gonna supply,Whatever beverages ya drink up Sat Night.Think ya might spend $20.00 there?You don't have to have the Custom Stamped Disc and Matching Shirts.Just thought it would be cool.Show of hands.

I was only kidding with that last post!

Go for it Pitch, that sound's like a good idea to me!

Its all good Tom, I like the idea of shirts, beer and food. ;)

We Want chicken !! ( kinda reminds me of a W.S.P. song )



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WSP will ve in tulsa in March

March 25th, Brady Theatre, That's a Sunday, Blackhawk & WSP in the same day :D

We need to nail down the guidelines for each player category...

Are we going by player ratings? I think we should be flexible with the player ratings. Maybe make your advanced players rating no more than 955 or 960. AM2 and AM Master should be IMO under 930.

Female can be any division.

Any thoughts?

Match play is different than normal play, I wouldn't want to limit it to just PDGA, remember that Little Rock and Mobile are predominantly SNDG, I don't really know an easy solution to prevent sandbagging in that case, my understanding is that diamondhead is a short, easy course, Might be a bunch of easy birdies even for low rated players, my honest opinion would be do it at Horseshoe Canyon but I don't want to throw a wrench into the gears

We need to nail down the guidelines for each player category...

Are we going by player ratings? I think we should be flexible with the player ratings. Maybe make your advanced players rating no more than 955 or 960. AM2 and AM Master should be IMO under 930.

Female can be any division.

Any thoughts?

I think, what you played in last year is what you should play in this.......like if you have played 5 intermediate tournament's, 8 Advanced and 6 Pro tournament's........You should have the option to play Advanced or Pro.

A Winch? :DTalequah! We may still be able to get into the river then.Never know.It could be colder than a witches teet or hot as ummm?You get the picture.Besides.Easier drive for most.You need to just be worried about making the team.We may need someone to carry the beverages too.(Evan,Can you cook) :D

I'll be too busy cooking Non-WAFDA butt on the course :p

I don't know about you, but any more than 2 rounds at the canyon is pushing it. The course has to be short if you are gonna play a bunch a rounds.

Yeah Evan.But you could start a new one at the Canyon.A sanctioned event would be cool.I could see a monster .Just get about $50,000 in sponsership.They'll show. WAFDA Presents"The Arkansas Open"( A Tier.) :cool:

I'm on it, $50,000 will get a sponsor one heck of a tee sign, I can see it now, flashing neon, moving parts

I'm just Canyon Happy, can't wait till Feb. 24th :)

Better yet, get a good lazer light show. :D
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We do need a tourny at the Canyon. Sanctioned would be very cool!

Better yet, get a good lazer light show. :D
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I wonder how much Pink Floyd would charge for a private show at the Canyon :cool:

There's been talk of a nice sanctioned event for Horseshoe before, with the cabins, lodge, ect. not to mention maybe one of the coolest courses in the country - that could be Arkansas' flagship tourney

Don't worry.WAFDA will handle it.I've already got something in mind.

Don't worry.WAFDA will handle it.I've already got something in mind.



When ya book Pink Floyd maybe we can get Big Dave to do the opening act :cool:

We need to nail this down so team captains can start recruiting...this is what I think is fair.

Pro Division: Any Player can be a pro...after all it is called the OPEN division.

Pro Master Division: 40 years of age or older.

Advanced Division: If you have accepted cash you cannot play in any of the AM divisions UNLESS your rating is under 955. It's pretty much just like MA1 is set-up now under PDGA guidelines.

AM Master: 40 years or older - no cash accepted with player rating 955 or under.

Amateur: This will be the most controversial division - If we go off of MA2 guidelines than you must have a rating of 915 or under. I think we should make it 930 and under because I guarantee their will be players without a PDGA number thus no player rating. Pitch what do you think?

Female: Any Female can play regardless of their division.

Yeah some may not be PDGA members.I'm not too familier with the ratings game.Mine is at 959 as of now.It dropped from 960 something.If you think it'll be better to allow a 930 or under for AM fine.This is why i've asked for ideas.The flyer is only a few days away.I'm getting several PMs' on it also.Notes are being taken.Start gathering your players if you haven't already.I'm thinkin you all have.Good!I'm also thinking Alma Greens will be deadline for entry as well.That allows me time to focus on these other tourneys and I will be able to shop all the players packs.The more I save the more you get.I've already got a price on the T Shirts.Good quality.If someone has a connection on these let me know.I want 80 shirts.One extra for each team.Also if we get all 8 teams i'll be lookin for xtra baskets.We'll set up some temps for the tourney.I have two nice baskets already.(Now the resort may have 9 more put in by then)Let's hope.Is Tulsa lookin at Two Teams?I think you guys could.I think you will. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just for you Pitch

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We need to nail this down so team captains can start recruiting...this is what I think is fair.

Pro Division: Any Player can be a pro...after all it is called the OPEN division.

Pro Master Division: 40 years of age or older.

Advanced Division: If you have accepted cash you cannot play in any of the AM divisions UNLESS your rating is under 955. It's pretty much just like MA1 is set-up now under PDGA guidelines.

AM Master: 40 years or older - no cash accepted with player rating 955 or under.

Amateur: This will be the most controversial division - If we go off of MA2 guidelines than you must have a rating of 915 or under. I think we should make it <font color="red">930</font> =X ( <font color="green">925</font> ) and under because I guarantee their will be players without a PDGA number thus no player rating. Pitch what do you think?

Female: Any Female can play regardless of their division.

Ahh the sweet memories.I spent ALOT of years on that course.To me the layout back then was better.Alot of the holes are the same now.They just ate up the park with that new water park on the back side.19 thru 27 was way better before that.There's been so many changes thru the years.I can show you the original layout.That's when there were orange poles in the ground.That should tell ya how long i've been around.And NOPE! I'm not feelin old.Cool video.Look closley at the tee sign on #1.My Dads name is on it.Oh yeah,He ,Myself and a couple others laid out Whittier Narrows .Ever played that one?

We need to nail this down so team captains can start recruiting...this is what I think is fair.

Pro Division: Any Player can be a pro...after all it is called the OPEN division.

Pro Master Division: 40 years of age or older.

Advanced Division: If you have accepted cash you cannot play in any of the AM divisions UNLESS your rating is under 955. It's pretty much just like MA1 is set-up now under PDGA guidelines.

AM Master: 40 years or older - no cash accepted with player rating 955 or under.

Amateur: This will be the most controversial division - If we go off of MA2 guidelines than you must have a rating of 915 or under. I think we should make it <font color="red">930</font> =X ( <font color="green">925</font> ) and under because I guarantee their will be players without a PDGA number thus no player rating. Pitch what do you think?

Female: Any Female can play regardless of their division.





OK so lets keep it around 925 then...Pitch are you cool with that?

AM only?

Yo' Pitch,
Yep on playing Whitter Narrows.Last year for the first time and then again.Good job on the use of the power towers,I think I tee off right into one of those :eek:.I still like La Mirada better.Played it for the first time in 2005,Better layout on the back side ,that year.Darn Water Park :mad:.Playing out here is a little different then back there ,No Ace pots,You know the deal you hit one everybody pays you a buck.Also,we write on our score cards a little differntly,Circle your birdie,box your bogies,...you know the drill.Had a little discussion about it at the Am Worlds With "Keldog"....Anyways props on all you and your father did for the sport....Spin IT....

Hey thanks ,On another note.I've had a few questions on the AM ratings.I haven't paid much attention to the ratings game so I thought to myself,What am I looking for in the AM division?I thought of a couple people I would consider truly Am.Then a couple who were a little bit tougher.Maybe near the Pro status.Now a couple people are thinkin a 930 and under or maybe even 925 and under.The two I considered truly AM were rated under 900.The ones I considered more like Advanced were UNDER 930.And UNDER 925.These are not the AMs I was lookin for.These guys are Advanced players.They would crush the true AM. I want PRO/ADVANCED and AM.If the ratings are gonna be a part of this in the AM status players I can say under 900 looks like the AM i'm lookin for.This may not be good news for some of you.But it'll be great news for the true AM.And let me say something else.These Ams i'm speaking of are still capable of easily shooting under par at most any courses.Especially Diamondhead.Tonight i'm going to put together a rough draft of the flyer.Most of what we've talked about will be included.I do now believe that the ratings game is a good thing in the case of the AM division.Advanced is still considered an Am division.But the dividing line is that whomever plays that division "ADVANCED" may not have collected cash in any sanctioned event.And in my opinion(Kinda like that ol saying,Everybodies got one)The Advanced division shouldn't exist.BAGGERS!Step up!Your givin us your money anyway. :eek:

AM only?



Yes AM division only.

Hey thanks ,On another note.I've had a few questions on the AM ratings.I haven't paid much attention to the ratings game so I thought to myself,What am I looking for in the AM division?I thought of a couple people I would consider truly Am.Then a couple who were a little bit tougher.Maybe near the Pro status.Now a couple people are thinkin a 930 and under or maybe even 925 and under.The two I considered truly AM were rated under 900.The ones I considered more like Advanced were UNDER 930.And UNDER 925.These are not the AMs I was lookin for.These guys are Advanced players.They would crush the true AM. I want PRO/ADVANCED and AM.If the ratings are gonna be a part of this in the AM status players I can say under 900 looks like the AM i'm lookin for.This may not be good news for some of you.But it'll be great news for the true AM.And let me say something else.These Ams i'm speaking of are still capable of easily shooting under par at most any courses.Especially Diamondhead.Tonight i'm going to put together a rough draft of the flyer.Most of what we've talked about will be included.I do now believe that the ratings game is a good thing in the case of the AM division.Advanced is still considered an Am division.But the dividing line is that whomever plays that division "ADVANCED" may not have collected cash in any sanctioned event.And in my opinion(Kinda like that ol saying,Everybodies got one)The Advanced division shouldn't exist.BAGGERS!Step up!Your givin us your money anyway. :eek:



Under 900 is fine, this is your gig I'm just trying to figure out what the guidelines are so I can finish recruiting. Regarding the advanced players, are you saying you want to get rid of the advanced players and just make it pros? If that's the case you might want to consider something like this:

4 pro/advanced
1 or 2 pro masters (i say 2)
2 AMS
1 Female

That may or may not work.If I said 4 Pro/Advanced you'd probably see a majority of Pro.I dunno.Let's poll it.

Make the Poll! :cool:

we can't do four pro players. if we do that wafda won't have a team. come on pitch use your head here.

Dave,We can use players out of other areas.You just worry about that AM spot.There will be plenty of those around here for you to be concerned about. ;)I've asked someone to throw the poll together.Gave em 3 options.ALSO!!! Got a call from the resort.Lookin good.Gonna discuss options when he calls me back.

Kevin from Diamondhead called :cool:Weekend is ours.We will probably own the place that weekend.He's workin on the rates etc.I expect to hear from him again soon.He also offered discounts on the floats.This guy is too cool folks.

go team OKC!!!

go team OKC!!!

HELL YEA!!!

I'll get the poll up today, Pitch...I'm slammed at work right now.