How do I train myself to Spin off my heel instead of the ball of my foot. I can not get anymore distance and this I hear might help. Anyone have any thoughts?

practice, man. go to a field and spin on your heel while throwing. start small and build big.

where did you hear that :confused:

If you watch video, Ken and Barry both spin on their heel when driving. I don't know if it is for distance, but they both do it.

interesting -- i don't really pay much attention to what i do though it seems more intuitive to pivot off the ball of the foot... i think i sort of go off the ball *and* the heel -- the whole foot :confused:

for distance, getting the most into the hit seems to be the main concern -- everything else can adjust to it and i would think there are many 'right' ways -- not just one. that said, what does Christian Sandstrom do ? :D

maybe Blake will weigh in on this...

this is pointless to try and correct. it doesn't matter. my advice would be to work on something else to help your game.

I guess my question would be: Does spinning on your heel lessen the torque on your knee. (She asks because her knee is messed up but she can't give up playing....)

Throwing off the heel will accelerate the wear and tear on the knee and hip. When you throw off the ball of your foot, there are more shock absorbers between the knee and hip, namely, the joints in your foot and ankle.

If you want to play the game for life, practice your putting and upshots, and don't take short cuts on good body mechanics.

I guess my question would be: Does spinning on your heel lessen the torque on your knee. (She asks because her knee is messed up but she can't give up playing....)



I think so Anita, I have changes from Ball to heel, well I didn't, the knee itself made the change...

Don't worry about my short game Bruce. ;)

Why should I trust you? You list your occupation as "liar"! :eek:

Anita, be careful on your heel , you will slip on the pad more often. coming from a golfer that slips on his heel often!

I'm thinking that they may start their pivot on their heel and momentum carries it forward to the ball of their foot.

So sidestep, plant with heel, rotate foot to the right and let the momentum shift your weight to and over the ball? It feels good when I try it in the office. But people are looking at me strange...

^^^ that makes more sense, it seems like it would be difficult to pivot on the heel alone.

http://www.playerscup.org/images/splash06.jpg

See how Brad starts his rotation on his right heel.....

hold up, the disc is already out of Brad's hands...

i want to see his foot *at* (or just before) the hit /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

also, since the thread started with the idea that throwing off your heel adds D -- is that a long or short hole he is teeing off at?

It doesn't matter if you are on the heel or the ball of your foot. The only thing that matters is that you have your weight forward. Personally, I think being on the ball is a lot better. When you are on the ball of your foot, your knee will naturally be slightly bent, which reduces the risk of injury.

Weight forward. Focus on that and you will be good to go.

http://www.playerscup.org/images/splash06.jpg

See how Brad starts his rotation on his right heel.....



Who the He!! is Brad? This is a poster of Eric Mccabe, trust me I have watched that guy play golf since near day one... and yea he is a heel spinner.

Myself I spin on the ball of my foot for hyzer shots (easier to keep from throwing my weight through and turning the shot) and On my heel for straight to turnover shots.

Who the He!! is Brad?



That would be Brad Schick (http://www.pdga.com/tournament/playerstats.php?PDGANum=7992) of Ohio, a PDGA Pro sponsored by Discraft.

Or more to the point Brad Schick (http://www.discraft.com/team_schick.html) , a pro on Discraft's Elite Z team.

thanks Gary, i was hesitant to cross over to the dark side [ :p] yet i followed your link and look at the good info that was there:
Brad's Advice For Newer Players
I see a lot of players practicing their distance... and only their distance! That seems to be a big thing to new players. Perhaps they feel that they are going to catch people's eye, which is true, but there is so much more on the road to success. Putting has got to be the biggest part of the game in my opinion. If you practice putting at least half as much as in other areas, your game will improve in strides.

One other thing I see new players doing is throwing discs that are WAY too overstable for their experience and armspeed. When they do actually figure out how to throw that disc, their finesse is so limited that it has major impacts on the touch shots, low ceiling shots, and up shots. Start out with something that is easy to throw and work your way to the overstable stuff.




it lists his rating as 1009, but last i checked it was 1012.

http://www.playerscup.org/images/splash06.jpg

See how Brad starts his rotation on his right heel.....



Who the He!! is Brad? This is a poster of Eric Mccabe, trust me I have watched that guy play golf since near day one... and yea he is a heel spinner.

Myself I spin on the ball of my foot for hyzer shots (easier to keep from throwing my weight through and turning the shot) and On my heel for straight to turnover shots.




Whoa....Obviously i know my teammates better than you do. :D

Yeah, No question that is Brad Schick.

Quinten, you might want to study your DisCraft player trading cards a little more.

Schick and McCabe, Both hella dudes!

I'll also use this time to prop my boy E-mac for his 8th place @ USDGC too...Holla!

http://www.playerscup.org/gallery/fri/images/PLC_0035.jpg

This Is E-mac and truth be told, he turns on his ball, not heel

http://www.playerscup.org/gallery/dubs/images/PLC_0144.jpg

More E-mac

Here he seems to spin the heel.

Maybe you utlize the ball more on hyser release and heel on Anie's?

...or how hard one is wanting to throw...(as stated above)...?

Wow I stand corrected.

They look a lot a like I will stick with that one.

Separated at birth???

you might want to study your DisCraft player trading cards a little more



'Dat wuz funny!

I think what all of these pics are showing is the weight transfer from the heel to the ball.

Can't you spin on both? I suspect many people initially plant on the ball of their foot, then the heel touches at or before they rotate the foot over both the ball and the heel. If you want to keep your center of gravity farther forward, it seems like you would have your weight pretty equally distributed over the both foot contact points.

If you want to quickly open the hips, you need to push back from the plant foot, and it seems natural (to me at least) that the heel would be the push point and therefore be the point of rotation with the ground. However, I highly question whether opening the hips quicker and keeping the weight back will make one a better player.

Maybe so, but how many people have you seen spinning on their heel when the disc is 200' down the fairway? It seems like it would be really hard to do. :D

I know that I plant on my toe when I'm throwing hard. Keeping my weight shifted slightly forward (in respect to my body, while I'm pulling the disc, not forward the direction I'm throwing) seems to help me not roll my wrist. When I'm going for a shorter, more precise throw, I get my weight on my heel, and like My_Hero said, I generally spin quite a bit after release. It's kinda fun!

Because I wore cleats for years, I know that I spin on the ball of my foot. I always left very clear circles cut into the ground where I spun on my plant foot.

I thought I remembered reading something about Climo saying he spins on the ball of his foot to reduce injuries on the knee.

Spinning on the heel seems more aligned with the overall axis of rotation...IMHO.
Spinning on the forefoot would seemingly lead to an additional strain of the next in-line joint...the ankle.

Ken does what My_Hero suggested. He initially spins on his heel then goes to the ball of his foot as his weight comes forward. He throws with a bent knee on the ball of his foot. It is very much like walking, other than the quick pivot. Throwing off the heel almost requires a straight leg. Several very good throwers, like Steve Rico, do this, but it is very stressful to the knee and hip.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

John, You have quite the menagerie. :cool:

LOL. Thanks.

I guess i could have said "If the Champ does it, shouldn't we?"

Ken does what My_Hero suggested. He initially spins on his heel then goes to the ball of his foot as his weight comes forward. He throws with a bent knee on the ball of his foot. It is very much like walking, other than the quick pivot. Throwing off the heel almost requires a straight leg. Several very good throwers, like Steve Rico, do this, but it is very stressful to the knee and hip.

Vindicated! :D