james_mccaine
Aug 30 2006, 10:22 AM
We will be using survey paint to mark some OB lines, and expect to mark many linear feet of OB using a roller, and are trying to estimate how many cans to purchase.

My question is for those familar with using this stuff, can you give me an idea of how much feet you get per can?

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 10:27 AM
Seems like I've gotten between 300-400 feet per can doing it by hand. Obviously, the speed with which you move and the pressure on the valve can vary this quite a bit. Make sure to use white paint.

james_mccaine
Aug 30 2006, 10:49 AM
Thanks, why white paint?

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 11:03 AM
Same reason it's used in many other sports: colorblindness. White is apparently the best color on green. We have at least three known players around here that can't see pink or orange paint on grass.

james_mccaine
Aug 30 2006, 11:11 AM
Wow, I didn't even think about the color blindness. It makes a lot of sense.

LouMoreno
Aug 30 2006, 11:46 AM
I found that out when I marked Ace Race tee boxes last year with orange ones of these. There was a player that could not see them.
http://www.shurmark.net/images/FP_Pic.jpg

tbender
Aug 30 2006, 12:16 PM
I found that out when I marked Ace Race tee boxes last year with orange ones of these. There was a player that could not see them.
http://www.shurmark.net/images/FP_Pic.jpg



Lou, was that due to colorblindness or discgolferness? I've seen people ignore those (and flags and balls) just because they were being a disc golfer.

LouMoreno
Aug 30 2006, 12:22 PM
It really was colorblindness. He wasn't foot faulting. He couldn't find the tee boxes. The rest of his card had to point them out to him before he threw.

padobber
Aug 30 2006, 04:00 PM
It is great that people are thinking about colorblindness! I am colorblind and i cannot see red or orange in green backgrounds. For most people red, pink, or orange are the best colors to use, but my white discs are the easiest to find for me (except in winter!). I just think it is pretty nice for you to think of us colorblind people when choosing colors.

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 04:06 PM
I'm not sure that's why white is the primary color you see for field markings in most sports but it's possible that's why. It may simply be that white lime powder was cheap when that was first used for marking and then white paint was substituted for it in many cases during the past 20 years. Either way, we have white indicated in our PDGA guidelines for OB marking in particular and recommended for tee marking paint unless flags are also provided for something visible above ground.

james_mccaine
Aug 30 2006, 04:37 PM
Chuck, any suggestions on where to get this stuff at reasonable prices?

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 04:47 PM
Best I've seen it is $5 a can at Menards around here but that was last year. If you know someone with a contractor's account at a supply store, you might be able to get 20%-25% better. I'm not a big fan of marking 10m circles for both the cost and environmental aspects but figure painting OB lines is worth it to remove doubt.

johnrock
Aug 30 2006, 07:17 PM
James, I'm the one in charge of painting lines here in Amarillo. Been doing it for 6 or 7 years (twice a year for the last two years). I do OB lines on the street and by the creeks, and I do 10 m. circles around both pin positions. I get 12 cans of Orange and 12 cans of White (inverted spray cans for the handheld sprayer). I don't know if you remember how much OB we have here, but it takes between 10 -12 cans for the OB, and almost all of the 12 cans for the circles. Some of the circles aren't complete because the OB is close to some of the pin positions. I get the paint at an equipment rental place where I have an account for my business (Rental Service Center I believe is their latest name). They usually sell me a case of 12 cans for around $40.

johnrock
Aug 30 2006, 11:46 PM
Also, if you're painting on a street, the sprayer with 4 wheels works best. Some of those lines have lasted more than three years here in Amarillo. The handheld sprayer works fine, but it is a little wiggly. Obviously, the 4 wheeled sprayer (like a little tractor) is difficult to use when you get off the street, but the handheld sprayer (the kind with one wheel)works better for our thick grass.

By the way, I use Orange (or Yellow) for the OB (since it is painted on the street and the wet dirt around the creeks), and White for the circles. I believe the circles are a very nice touch that adds an extra ounce of professionalism to the course. I tell players they are only a guide, not an absolute.

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 11:50 PM
I tell players they are only a guide, not an absolute.




Apparently that's not correct now. If lines are painted, I believe the Competition Directors now consider them the official line for jump putting.

johnrock
Aug 30 2006, 11:54 PM
So be it. :p Good thing I take pride in my work.

ck34
Aug 30 2006, 11:55 PM
You can check on it but I believe that was the ruling at Am Worlds to carry forward since then because others have asked.

idahojon
Aug 31 2006, 09:16 AM
Chuck, any suggestions on where to get this stuff at reasonable prices?



Missouri Turf Paint (http://www.missouriturfpaint.com/paint_aero.html) has good quantity prices on paint and free shipping (in quantity). Also a 'scrubbable' paint.


Timestriping, Inc. (http://www.timestriping.com/) has Spray Chalk in cans that fit the wands and marking machines. Good for when your park will not allow paint.

specialk
Aug 31 2006, 02:45 PM
I've used dashed lines to conserve paint.

How about just going to white stakes like ball golf? If ball golfers an asctertain OB with a little white ball and stakes several yards apart, I'm sure we can do it with discs.

rhett
Aug 31 2006, 03:38 PM
They use marking paint to connect the stakes at big ball golf tourneys.

quickdisc
Aug 31 2006, 06:04 PM
Nice !!!!

http://www.timestriping.com/