I recently installed a 12 hole course in Oregon thats landscape has many hills and valleys. I need to know what is the appropriate way to list the distance of each hole. I have a few holes that throw from hilltop to hilltop. Do I measure as the crow flys or from the contour of the land. I beleive in regular golf it is measured from the contour of the land.

If the typical player of the skill level designed for a hilltop tee can reach the other hilltop in one throw, then measure hilltop to hilltop (crow flies). If the throw is too long like a par 4, then measure down the hill then back up.

Good call Chuck :D Thats how I would want it done if it was my course :D

You could buy a GPS, measure, then return it. That's what we did.

http://www.roadtosanity.net/img/course_layout.jpg

Two shots across parking lots? :eek:

That would cause some problems if I played there :)

Cars are almost never there when we play. Hole 5 is actually has a 50' elevated tee, and 15 crosses only where cars are coming in and out, not where they park. It's a fun course and I am the only one who has significantly hit a car...Luckily the guy was cool and drove a beater, but it definitely left a big dent.

what are all the white dots randomly peppering your course, picnic tables? wow, you must have a way liberal parkks department.

If the typical player of the skill level designed for a hilltop tee can reach the other hilltop in one throw, then measure hilltop to hilltop (crow flies). If the throw is too long like a par 4, then measure down the hill then back up.


That stands to reason, measure as-played; it that the Official PDGA stand Chuck? Because that figure goes into reports, reports affect ratings, etc.

There is no official PDGA stand but I believe experienced designers would not object to this measuring process:

"Distance on a hole should be measured from tee to pin along the shortest intended route that can be played by the typical player of the skill level a tee to pin combination is designed for."

That means a dogleg where Rec players cannot typically throw over it and take a short cut, should be measured following the dogleg route. I usually measure about 10 feet away from the corner of the dogleg but the difference is minimal if you measure to the point of the dogleg with no flightway offset. If the same dogleg will be played by Gold level players from the Gold tee and the trees creating the dogleg corner are not too high, then I would measure a more direct line if a good percentage will cut across the dogleg route.

The same holds true on holes that go around/over water. If Blue or Gold can cross the water farther down the fairway than White or Red players, I'll measure accordingly.

If the typical player of the skill level designed for a hilltop tee can reach the other hilltop in one throw, then measure hilltop to hilltop (crow flies). If the throw is too long like a par 4, then measure down the hill then back up.


That stands to reason, measure as-played; it that the Official PDGA stand Chuck? Because that figure goes into reports, reports affect ratings, etc.



Hole length does not factor into ratings...I mean it can make you take more throws but whether it is measured correctly or not or reported on the TD report correctly or not does not change ratings.

I always measure on the ground down the center of the fairway.
I would take 3 measurements with a wheel and use the middle one if you have the time.
This has been an ongoing depate here in St Louis.

Dirty Dave,
How was Flaggstaff?
Did you get to meet or play with any of the Gateway Sponsored players while you were there.

Is that map of a course in San diego?
Man, that park look sweet but seems a bit crowded for that big of a disc golf course.
Are there any mutiple pins or tees?

I always measure on the ground down the center of the fairway.
I would take 3 measurements with a wheel and use the middle one if you have the time.
This has been an ongoing depate here in St Louis.<font color="red"> GPS worked at Bayside with all the little rolling hills, and its accurate up to 8 ft. </font>

Dirty Dave,
How was Flaggstaff? <font color="red">Flagstaff was great, I had a few tough rounds, but made a strong comeback (149th to 15th) </font>
Did you get to meet or play with any of the Gateway Sponsored players while you were there. <font color="red">All the Gateway guys I met were cool as hell. I played with Matt, Devan, and a lot with Will. I met Boro on the last day after the round was over, all the Gateway guys are great putters. </font>

Is that map of a course in San diego? <font color="red"> It's a temporary course that we run down at the beach :cool:</font>
Man, that park look sweet but seems a bit crowded for that big of a disc golf course. <font color="red">Once a week only, and almost no one ever goes to this park </font>
Are there any mutiple pins or tees? <font color="red">We have two layouts-OG & sdrawkcab. </font>
http://www.roadtosanity.net/img/course_layout.jpg http://www.roadtosanity.net/img/course_sdrawkcab.jpg

If you have the oppertunity just put the method of measurement on the signage for the hole next to the length.