whats the best private course you've played? i've only played one and it was awesome(mitch mac's). one thing that really appeals to me about private courses is that you could use portable baskets and easily have several different layouts and pin placements.

In no particular order Kandahar, Timberlee, Willow Brook and Flip City all were or are great private courses. Kandahar and Timberlee were on ski hill property. Willow Brook is the best Fly 18 yet to be built. Flip City is a permanent 24 on wonderfully hilly terrain. Flip City is the only one you could go play tomorrow.

Marshall Street

PAW PAW, WV

Not only the best private course in the world, it's also the best disc golf course in the world.

Not only the best private course in the world, it's also the best disc golf course in the world.



Perhaps in a perverse alternate universe.

Try HHSC (http://www.highbridgehillssc.com/)

Not only the best private course in the world, it's also the best disc golf course in the world.



Perhaps in a perverse alternate universe.



I know the 'randomly punitive' design philosophy from Spencer bothers you. If that is indeed true, it bothers me, too.

But I've never seen any other disc golf with the whole package: elevation changes, open holes, tight wooded holes, water hazards, short holes, dauntingly long holes, roller holes, par threes, par fours, par fives, incredible vistas/views, free camping on site, etc. Except for being remotely located, Paw Paw has got it all!

In no particular order Kandahar, Timberlee, Willow Brook and Flip City all were or are great private courses. Kandahar and Timberlee were on ski hill property. Willow Brook is the best Fly 18 yet to be built. Flip City is a permanent 24 on wonderfully hilly terrain. Flip City is the only one you could go play tomorrow.



I thought Kandahar was a public course. It seemed public to me when we played it. Flip City is practically a public course. If you were to just drive up to Flip City and play it without talking to the owners, they wouldn't kick you out. That's fairly public.

It's a beautiful property without a doubt and it has some good holes. There is a lot of untapped potential that is masked by the sheer awesomeness of the terrain. With things like crossing fairways, several wide open "nothing" holes and the pinball design philosophy, it's more frustrating than fun for me to go there.

Sandy Point in WI is really nice. Very clean, garbage can, bench and broom on every tee pad. Not a single cig. butt on the course. Cuts nicely through the woods, multiple pin placements. Owner owns a bunch of cabins there that you can rent.

I guess if the course doesn't have the "Chuck Kennedy seal of approval" then it must not be the best.

Funny how PAW-PAW keeps getting unsolicited testimonials of its greatness and there is Chuck making sure everyone knows he doesn't approve.

I guess if the course doesn't have the "Chuck Kennedy seal of approval" then it must not be the best.

Funny how PAW-PAW keeps getting unsolicited testimonials of its greatness and there is Chuck making sure everyone knows he doesn't approve.



Does it matter what another person thinks about a course that you personally enjoy? If you like it, that is all that matters. Chuck is one guy, what is the big deal. There are some courses I would never go back to, but others think they are the greatest courses in the world, Lake Lowndes S.P. in Columbus MS for example.

The only private course I have played is Bud Hill in Memphis TN. A nice course, some super challenging holes but mostly alot of simple hyzer shots for easy 2's.

The Paw Paw courses don't have to have my or anyone else's seal of approval, especially since they are on private property. I don't like sauerkraut either but that doesn't mean it isn't great for lots of people. It is what it is and many enjoy the fabulous terrain, views and wonderful hospitality. I enjoyed all of those aspects on my visit including the unique challenges of many holes. But if the courses are strictly evaluated separate from all of the other positive aspects of Paw Paw, there are some issues as noted. Crossing fairways violate course design 101 just for starters. That's just a fact, not a judgment.

Grass roots disc golf!!! I love private courses!!! The feel, the folks, the golf........the whole ball of wax. In no particular order and for a variety of reasons these are my favorites: "Spotsy Region" of Virginia is a veritable rabbit warren of great private courses - Mike Trapasso's The Grange with 54 holes on site, John Biscoe's Hawk Hollow down the road a few minutes; John Whinery's Fossil Hill, Greene County Tennessee, The Country Course NC, Higher Ground NC........... I could go on..... Probably almost as many private course in NC as public. Shoot, I liked private courses so well, I bought the company. :cool::D

I have gotten to the point where I don't enjoy the public courses as much as I used to. So I built one myself on our little farm in Virginia. I also enjoy the Grange in Spotsylvania as well as Rockahock in New Kent.

I think private courses are the wave of the future. You can go in there and really build a course without having to go through inordinate amounts of Gov't red tape hemmin' and hawwin'.

Then there's Ramcat Ridge in Yadkinville NC. Some of the best elevation changes in NC including THE steepest hole in NC with a 60 ft. drop. Plus an amiable host-- one of the friendliest in NC!

It's odd that Texas hasn't chimed in on this thread. I've only been golfing in Texas on one trip and was lucky enough to have played at Houck's Wimberley courses . . . . tremendous.

I think if you review LaGrassa's list of pluses at Paw Paw and then review Chuck's list of minuses you'll point to Wimberley. Sadly, I've never played San Saba, but when my $50 million lotto ticket comes through I'll take a good look at buying it . . .. I know God -- I've got to buy a ticket.

Houck's been so busy traveling I'm not sure he's seen much of this Board. The Wimberley courses are certainly excellent and unfortunately I'll probably never get to see San Saba.

Paw Paw is great for big arms, too long for noodle arms like me. So many of the holes are D contest holes, rip your arm out of the socket, 500 foot uphill shots. That's great when you are young and really want to grip it and rip it.

At my age I'll settle for noodle arm courses instead of monster courses. Ouch. Paw Paw hurts just thinking of it I need to go get the BenGay. And this way I don't have to walk so far. I think Paw Paw is like 2 miles each round.

Only private course I've played is Cabin Creek. Beautiful land, fun course. Just wish I had got to play it BP (before paintball).

The world famous cabin hole:
http://www.eteamz.com/cabincreek/images/Hole07.jpg

The cabin's still there, it's behind the paintball safe zone.

where is that? what state?

i forgot to mention that i've also played a course in arkansas city, kansas that is on a quaker camp. very fun layout with some good homemade baskets. and another 2 in winfield.

where is that? what state?



Ohio. (http://www.cincinnatidiscgolf.com)

The two best private courses that I would consider my favorite would be Ozark Mountain and Larry Ast's private course in his yard. Ozark Mountain is without a doubt my favorite course in the world!! All with water, beautiful veiws and vistas, and HUGE elevation changes that will make you dizzy just looking at them. Including one hole that rises 50 feet on a 200 foot shot. As well as one that drops 100 feet on a 700 foot hole!! :cool:Not to mention it is on 275 acres of Ozark backcountry. Larry Ast's course however is without a doubt the nicest course in anyone's yard on earth. You can't imagine anything being better on 5 acres. With the coolest eleveted rock green/ teeoff and treehouse tee-deck you could ever imagine. Not to mention how wonderfully landscaped and maintained the entire property is. So much work has gone into his yard that one could not even venture to guess how many man-hours it actually took he and his wife. I just feel blessed to have been able to play either one of these courses I just described. For pics of Ozark Mountain go to www.gdstour.com (http://www.gdstour.com) and go to the courses link. :cool:

Johnny Sias' Lucky Eight course in Lavalette, WV is the only private course I have played so far, but it is awesome. We have started laying one out on the 40 acres that my father owns here in WV, it will take us some time and some changes, but we ill get it right sooner or later.

In Central Texas alone we have (in my order of preference) 4 amazing Private Ranches (most with multiple courses on the property):
<ul type="square"> Circle R --- San Saba: 3 of the most difficult but beautiful courses you'll ever play. It's hard to beleive all three courses are on the same piece of proptery, yet are completely different than each other Moody's Red Rock --- huge pine trees, rolling meadows, and ponds to throw at/over. Plus, Dave will let you bring your dog out to run and play with his dog, Daisy. Twin Parks Country Club --- a meadow course and a hill course similar to Wimberley, but with concrete tee boxes, solar lights for night play, the best Disc Golf club house anywhere, and a herd of English elk running through the fairways. Circle R --- Wimberley: Two more amazing and contrasting courses designed by the master, John Houck. The Meadow will try your technical skills, while the Hill will try your strength and stamina. [/list]

Just back in town after a three day weekend. Thanks much Lowe. But my understanding is that Ramcat's owner is a rather selfish individual who just wanted a cool place to play. /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Come see us Lowe. You really need to see new #'s 17 and 18.

Ted's Dread in Kansas City, Kansas has all the elements...open/tight/wooded, water, elevation, long/short/blind holes...a true masterpiece! :cool:

All this and just a short 10 minute drive from WyCo DGC and the new Kansas Speedway!

The Stables in Ft Madison Iowa has a sweet 18 hole private course. It's one of my favorite courses.You must make an appointment to play.

can anyone tell me if these private course are profitable, i'm in the process of proposing one but i need some more solid proof they'll make money or at least break even, 18-holes, practice area and pro shop. no other course within 30 miles.

See if you can find someone connected with Gran Canyon in Brooksville, FL. The owner is not a disc golfer but charges $5 per day. They have separate pro & am tournaments in in the winter, with 27 holes and over 100 players each and 3 days of fees, that's $3,000 or more to the owner. As I understand they hold a half-dozen smaller tournaments a year. No idea how much casual traffic they get; no pro shop or other services; and the property is multi-use (mountain-biking, I think). This must be profitable if you aren't considering land costs.

This gets my vote as my favorite private course and favorite course overall (of about 85 played in about 20 states). As a private course owner myself---a work in progress at this point---I'd be happy to eventually just cover our costs.

Another great course, high on my list of favorites, is a hidden gem of Still Waters Farm in Govan, SC. Its remoteness limits its play outside of tournaments. Private courses are great because they can be designed without some of the limitations of public courses----move a tree, plant a tree, dig a ditch, pile dirt, use moveable baskets, change any hole that doesn't work out as planned, go anywhere without regard to other park users.....no waiting on large groups, lots of peace and quiet, most often scenic, other activities, diffrent standards of conduct, etc.

Stoney Hill Disc Golf Course (http://www.saulsinsurance.com/stoneyhill/)

Contact the owners of the private courses in Maine - their courses must surely be profitable.

Offer the customer world class courses, full amenities, and a reasonable daily fee ($5 per day) and there's no way they can't be profitable.

Contact Snapper Pierson at Morley Field in California. Best pay to play operation I'm aware of.

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www.4141discgolf.com (http://www.4141discgolf.com)

Farm Life Disc Golf in Williamston, NC is one of the toughest courses I've played. Not a long course but plenty of tight woods to test your game. Some water, and the skeeters could also be considered a hazard. My favorite in NC is The Country Course. 25 holes that mix up woods and open field shots with elevation and good times makes for a great experience. Plus, Brian McRee to show you around makes it worth the while. Plus next door there is the Groove, which is pretty tight also.

Lucky 8 in Lavalette WV is now my highest rated private course. It's Johnny Sias' course. Awesome elevation changes, demanding fairways, very good homemade baskets, much natural beauty. To top it off Johhny is a very genial host with a wealth of disc golf experience and knowledge.

I guess if the course doesn't have the "Chuck Kennedy seal of approval" then it must not be the best.

Funny how PAW-PAW keeps getting unsolicited testimonials of its greatness and there is Chuck making sure everyone knows he doesn't approve.



I just played the Paw Paw tournament today. And I have to agree full heartedly with Chuck on this one.

The crossing fairways, while fine for casual play and small tournaments where groups can be spread out, it is a strange thing to actually experience it.

Overall I liked the design, but there are probably about 6-8 holes that could use some chainsaw TLC. From what I saw on the tee signs for the intent of the hole design, there is tremendous potential for a top notch, world class course. But when you have a 4ft fairway for over 350ft, or when a basket or fairway is blocked by trees spaced out by only 3ft, that is not a disc golf hole.

Unlike mentioned up thread, I did not see any par 5's. There were a lot of par 4 holes, and some very long three's.

It is definately.......remote. :eek:

Hawk Hollow, John Bisocoe's course in Spotsylvania VA, is also very good. Great elevation changes and some long and demanding holes.

The Grange in Spotsylvania VA also has 2 good courses and a par 2 tiki course.

I did forget about 3 other private courses I have played.

CR2 in San Saba....MECCA!

Too bad it is gone, I loved all three of these course. #9 on Strawbale fields was incredible. You teed off an elevated pennisula over a 50ft deep OB ravine that is 300ft across. On the other side is the fairway, it is only 80ft wide surrounded by OB on the right, and the OB ravine on the left. The remainder of the fairway stays the same width with mesquite trees in the middle, and runs for an addtional 680ft.

Granted, 300ft is an extreme distance for a mandatory shot, but is on a world class course and a professional tee box.

Here's a more complete list of all private courses I've played that rate above 50:

Private Course Ratings: Overall Best
Sorted by Overall Rating

<table border="1"><tr><td>Course</td><td>State</td><td>City</td><td>Overall Rating</td><td>Date Played
</td></tr><tr><td>Lucky 8</td><td>WV</td><td>Lavalette</td><td>90.1</td><td>May 2006
</td></tr><tr><td>Hawk Hollow</td><td>VA</td><td>Spotsylvania</td><td>88</td><td>March 2006
</td></tr><tr><td>The Grange: Darkside (Private)</td><td>VA</td><td>Spotsylvania</td><td>77.7</td><td>March 2006
</td></tr><tr><td>Ramcat Ridge</td><td>NC</td><td>Yadkinville</td><td>75.3</td><td>Oct 2004
</td></tr><tr><td>Farm Life (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Williamston</td><td>75.1</td><td>April 2005
</td></tr><tr><td>The Grange: Sunnyside (Private)</td><td>VA</td><td>Spotsylvania</td><td>72.6</td><td>Oct 2001
</td></tr><tr><td>E. Wake Middle School (9, Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Knightdale</td><td>71.7</td><td>Nov 2003
</td></tr><tr><td>Tar River (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Franklinton</td><td>70.6</td><td>Feb 4, 2006
</td></tr><tr><td>Ace Run Ranch (Private)</td><td>VA</td><td>Suffolk</td><td>70.5</td><td>Sept 2001
</td></tr><tr><td>Country Course (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Louisburg</td><td>70.4</td><td>Feb 2006
</td></tr><tr><td>Davidson College (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Davidson</td><td>67.8</td><td>Mar 2003
</td></tr><tr><td>Cedar Lake (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Archdale</td><td>64.9</td><td>Oct 2003
</td></tr><tr><td>Higher Ground (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Fuquay-Varina</td><td>64.5</td><td>Jan 2003
</td></tr><tr><td>Knotty Pines (9, Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Winston-Salem</td><td>61.8</td><td>Dec 2001
</td></tr><tr><td>The Groove (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Louisburg</td><td>54.1</td><td>Jan 2003
</td></tr><tr><td>Old Plank Road (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Thomasville</td><td>53</td><td>Oct 2003
</td></tr><tr><td>The Grange: Tiki (Private)</td><td>VA</td><td>Spotsylvania</td><td>52.2</td><td>March 2006
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

I know it is not a "full-legnth" course, but there cannot be a cooler private course than the Tiki Course at the Grange. TIKI!

Well I'm gonna have to give a nod to my old private course in Athens, Ohio. It was called Big Rumen Farms. Man how I miss that place.

As for PawPaw and the crossing fairways.............were you in a hurry to get somewhere?????? where ya goin???? whats the rush, enjoy the day, your miles from anything :)

And as for the chainsaws......you don't need them, just follow the stumps and you will find the alleys.

Johnny Sias's course is beautiful. very tough.

and as for Maine courses........I believe they made over $500,000 in there 1st year of operation. That is from my friend who is from Maine and has played there quite a few times.

And as for me, Im ready to open up a pay-to-play 24 hour disc golf course with lighted baskets. Now that would be sweet.

hey lowe,
the pdf says hawk hollow's overall rating is 90.9. did i get downgraded for not being as nice as johnny? ;) :D

and as for Maine courses........I believe they made over $500,000 in there 1st year of operation. That is from my friend who is from Maine and has played there quite a few times.

And as for me, Im ready to open up a pay-to-play 24 hour disc golf course with lighted baskets. Now that would be sweet.



As the guy who keeps the books for two of the most frequented pay-for-play courses in Maine, I can assure you that no individual course has ever made $500,000 in any given year, and certainly not in the first year of operation. Whoever gave you that info is waaayyy off.

When done right, and wisely, operating a private, pay-to-play disc golf course can make the owner and employees a fair living, but no one's getting rich off of it. A good year is a break-even year, if you're properly investing money back into the course/facilities for upkeep and improvements. If you're not doing that, you're not going to keep people coming back.

--Josh

1 too many zeros in that post. :)

hey lowe,
the pdf says hawk hollow's overall rating is 90.9. did i get downgraded for not being as nice as johnny? ;) :D



John,

You're definitely as nice as Johnny ;) and I thoroughly enjoyed our round at Hawk Hollow! However, these ratings are done on the curve, and are pretty subjective, so they are fluid. I recently made some adjusments to the top courses. Although Lucky 8 edged you out a lot of that has to do with being on a spectacular piece of property and the 20+ years that Johhny has had to develop the course.

Be encouraged, though, your still at #14 overall of 165+ that I've played. Especially for a private course that doesn't have Park Dept resources that's exceptional!

P.S.- One more factor that bumped Hawk Hollow down a little is that I played Nockamixon in PA after that (on the same trip) and I rated it a little above HH too.

is there a list in order of rating on the site that i am not seeing?

I know it is not a "full-legnth" course, but there cannot be a cooler private course than the Tiki Course at the Grange. TIKI!



And you can play it immediately after the dark side has kicked your back side and restore your confidence a bit. :cool:

I know it is not a "full-legnth" course, but there cannot be a cooler private course than the Tiki Course at the Grange. TIKI!



And you can play it immediately after the dark side has kicked your back side and restore your confidence a bit. :cool:



In March I had my second career ace on the Tiki course on a 70 ft. hole and it still felt good! That was after the Darkside had whupped me.

is there a list in order of rating on the site that i am not seeing?



John,

I assume that your referring to my Google Group "DG Course Reviews". No there I haven't posted an overall list yet. I still have 5 new reviews to write up so that's my priority at the moment. After that I hope to put up the overall rating list as well as lists of Difficulty Ratings.

Lowe

For Biscoe's benefit here is a partial list of the Overall Rating for the courses I've played. I know there will be lots of disagreement, so I won't try to defend my results. YMMV.

Bibby Overall Course Quality Rating

<table border="1"><tr><td>Course</td><td>State</td><td>City</td><td>Date Played</td><td>Rating
</td></tr><tr><td>Renaissance</td><td>NC</td><td>Charlotte</td><td>April 2004 </td><td>99.90
</td></tr><tr><td>Brandywine S.P.</td><td>DE</td><td>Wilmington</td><td>August 2004</td><td>99.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Winthrop U - Gold</td><td>SC</td><td>Rock Hill</td><td>Oct 2001</td><td>98.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Seneca Creek S.P.</td><td>MD</td><td>Gaithersburg</td><td>Nov 2003</td><td>96.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Lake Russell S.P.</td><td>GA</td><td>Elberton</td><td>June 2003</td><td>95.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Cedarock</td><td>NC</td><td>Burlington</td><td>Sept 2004</td><td>94.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Mars Hill College</td><td>NC</td><td>Mars Hill</td><td>Nov 2005</td><td>93.50
</td></tr><tr><td>La Mirada</td><td>CA</td><td>LA: La Mirada</td><td>Oct 2005</td><td>92.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Walnut Creek</td><td>VA</td><td>Charlottesville</td><td>Oct 2002</td><td>91.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Lucky 8</td><td>WV</td><td>Lavalette</td><td>May 2006</td><td>90.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Circle R: Hill</td><td>TX</td><td>Wimberley</td><td>Mar 2002</td><td>90.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Nockamixon</td><td>PA</td><td>Quakertown</td><td>March 2006</td><td>89.90
</td></tr><tr><td>Wellspring</td><td>NC</td><td>Burlington</td><td>June 2003</td><td>88.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Hawk Hollow</td><td>VA</td><td>Spotsylvania</td><td>March 2006</td><td>88.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Castle Hayne</td><td>NC</td><td>Wilmington</td><td>April 2006</td><td>87.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Circle R: Meadow</td><td>TX</td><td>Wimberley</td><td>Mar 2001</td><td>87.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Buckhorn</td><td>NC</td><td>New Hill</td><td>July 2005</td><td>86.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Patapsco Valley S.P.</td><td>MD</td><td>Ellicott City</td><td>Mar 2004</td><td>85.30
</td></tr><tr><td>Valley Springs</td><td>NC</td><td>Durham</td><td>Oct 2005</td><td>85.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Johnson Street</td><td>NC</td><td>High Point</td><td>May 2004</td><td>84.90
</td></tr><tr><td>Bluemont</td><td>VA</td><td>Arlington</td><td>Mar 2004</td><td>84.70
</td></tr><tr><td>Richmond Hill</td><td>NC</td><td>Asheville</td><td>Aug 2003</td><td>84.50
</td></tr><tr><td>UNC</td><td>NC</td><td>Chapel Hill</td><td>Aug 2005</td><td>84.30
</td></tr><tr><td>Zebulon</td><td>NC</td><td>Zebulon</td><td>Jan 2006</td><td>84.00
</td></tr><tr><td>George Ward</td><td>AL</td><td>Birmingham</td><td>June 2004</td><td>83.90
</td></tr><tr><td>Reedy Creek</td><td>NC</td><td>Charlotte</td><td>Sept 2005</td><td>83.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Barnett</td><td>FL</td><td>Orlando</td><td>Mar 2000</td><td>83.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Hornets\' Nest</td><td>NC</td><td>Charlotte</td><td>Mar 2003</td><td>82.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Hilton</td><td>NC</td><td>Hickory</td><td>Nov 2004</td><td>82.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Timmons</td><td>SC</td><td>Greenville</td><td>June 03</td><td>82.20
</td></tr><tr><td>Warriors Path S.P.</td><td>TN</td><td>Kingsport</td><td>Nov. 2003</td><td>82.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Earlewood</td><td>SC</td><td>Columbia</td><td>Jan 2002</td><td>81.90
</td></tr><tr><td>Crooked Creek</td><td>SC</td><td>Chapin</td><td>Jan 2002</td><td>81.70
</td></tr><tr><td>Cedar Hills</td><td>NC</td><td>Raleigh</td><td>June 2005</td><td>81.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Edora</td><td>CO</td><td>Fort Collins</td><td>July 2003</td><td>80.90
</td></tr><tr><td>Riverview</td><td>SC</td><td>North Augusta</td><td>Jan 2002</td><td>80.70
</td></tr><tr><td>Redan</td><td>GA</td><td>Atlanta (Redan)</td><td>Jan 2002</td><td>80.60
</td></tr><tr><td>Calvert</td><td>MD</td><td>College Park</td><td>Nov 2003</td><td>80.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Dorey</td><td>VA</td><td>Richmond</td><td>Mar 2003</td><td>80.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Patriots Park</td><td>GA</td><td>Augusta </td><td>Jan 2002</td><td>79.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Ellison</td><td>NY</td><td>Rochester</td><td>May 2002</td><td>78.80
</td></tr><tr><td>Morley Field</td><td>CA</td><td>San Diego</td><td>Oct 2004</td><td>78.10
</td></tr><tr><td>The Grange: Darkside </td><td>VA</td><td>Spotsylvania</td><td>March 2006</td><td>77.70
</td></tr><tr><td>Live Oak</td><td>TX</td><td>San Antonio (Live </td><td>Mar 2001</td><td>77.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Yadkin County Park</td><td>NC</td><td>Yadkinville</td><td>Oct 2004</td><td>77.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Whittier Narrows</td><td>CA</td><td>LA: South El Monte</td><td>Oct 2004</td><td>76.80
</td></tr><tr><td>Kilborne</td><td>NC</td><td>Charlotte</td><td>Oct 2001</td><td>76.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Sugaw Creek</td><td>NC</td><td>Charlotte</td><td>Sept 2005</td><td>76.20
</td></tr><tr><td>Turkey Lake</td><td>FL</td><td>Orlando</td><td>June 2002</td><td>75.80
</td></tr><tr><td>Mint Hill (9)</td><td>NC</td><td>Charlotte (Mint Hill)</td><td>Oct 2002</td><td>75.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Ramcat Ridge</td><td>NC</td><td>Yadkinville</td><td>Oct 2004</td><td>75.30
</td></tr><tr><td>Ridgecrest (9)</td><td>NC</td><td>Black Mountain</td><td>Nov 2005</td><td>75.20
</td></tr><tr><td>Farm Life (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Williamston</td><td>April 2005</td><td>75.10
</td></tr><tr><td>El Dorado</td><td>CA</td><td>Long Beach</td><td>April 2003</td><td>74.20
</td></tr><tr><td>Lake Olmstead</td><td>GA</td><td>Augusta</td><td>June 2003</td><td>74.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Hambrick Memorial </td><td>OH</td><td>Columbus</td><td>May 2004</td><td>73.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Great Seal S.P.</td><td>OH</td><td>Chillicothe</td><td>May 2004</td><td>73.30
</td></tr><tr><td>Veterans</td><td>CA</td><td>Sylmar</td><td>Oct 2005</td><td>73.20
</td></tr><tr><td>Newport News Park</td><td>VA</td><td>Newport News</td><td>Sept 2001</td><td>73.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Rockburn Branch</td><td>MD</td><td>Elkridge</td><td>Sept 2004</td><td>73.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Sedgley Woods</td><td>PA</td><td>Philadelphia</td><td>March 2006</td><td>73.00
</td></tr><tr><td>Glenburnie</td><td>NC</td><td>New Bern</td><td>Feb 2004</td><td>72.90
</td></tr><tr><td>The Grange: Sunnyside </td><td>VA</td><td>Spotsylvania</td><td>Oct 2001</td><td>72.60
</td></tr><tr><td>Barnett</td><td>NC</td><td>Kinston</td><td>Feb 2003</td><td>72.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Loriella</td><td>VA</td><td>Fredericksburg</td><td>Oct 2003</td><td>72.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Nixon</td><td>PA</td><td>Kennett Square</td><td>March 2006</td><td>72.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Inland Greens</td><td>NC</td><td>Wilmington</td><td>April 2006</td><td>72.35
</td></tr><tr><td>Morningside</td><td>TN</td><td>Knoxville</td><td>Mar 2002</td><td>72.30
</td></tr><tr><td>E. Wake Middle School (9,</td><td>NC</td><td>Knightdale</td><td>Nov 2003</td><td>71.70
</td></tr><tr><td>Rose Lane</td><td>GA</td><td>Toccoa</td><td>June 2003</td><td>71.60
</td></tr><tr><td>Northeast Creek</td><td>NC</td><td>Jacksonville</td><td>Feb 2002</td><td>71.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Forked Run SP</td><td>OH</td><td>Reedsville</td><td>May 2004</td><td>70.90
</td></tr><tr><td>Barber</td><td>NC</td><td>Greensboro</td><td>April 2001</td><td>70.80
</td></tr><tr><td>Old Settlers</td><td>TX</td><td>Round Rock</td><td>Mar 2002</td><td>70.70
</td></tr><tr><td>Tar River (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Franklinton</td><td>Feb 4, 2006</td><td>70.60
</td></tr><tr><td>Ace Run Ranch (Private)</td><td>VA</td><td>Suffolk</td><td>Sept 2001</td><td>70.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Country Course (Private)</td><td>NC</td><td>Louisburg</td><td>Feb 2006</td><td>70.40
</td></tr><tr><td>Pratt</td><td>VA</td><td>Fredericksburg</td><td>March 2006</td><td>70.30
</td></tr><tr><td>Central Park</td><td>GA</td><td>Cummings</td><td>June 2003</td><td>70.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Shady Oaks</td><td>IL</td><td>Chicagoland: </td><td>May 2001</td><td>68.50
</td></tr><tr><td>Green Pines (9)</td><td>NC</td><td>Knightdale</td><td>April 2005</td><td>68.30
</td></tr><tr><td>Stumpy Creek (9)</td><td>NC</td><td>Mooresville</td><td>Mar 2003</td><td>68.10
</td></tr><tr><td>Davidson College </td><td>NC</td><td>Davidson</td><td>Mar 2003</td><td>67.80
</td></tr><tr><td>Pease</td><td>TX</td><td>Austin</td><td>Mar 2002</td><td>66.10
</td></tr><tr><td> </tr></td></table>

thanks lowe! :)

HeyHowdy Lowe. Quite interesting to see Ramcat and Farm Life right together in your ratings. I played Farm Life for the first time a month ago and had the good fortune of playing a couple or three rounds with Kent Roberson, FL course owner, who has not played Ramcat. When the subject of comparing the two courses inevitably came up I told him Ramcat was really very similar in a lot of ways even with the dramatic topographical differences. Just add probably an average two feet of width per FL fairway, shake the contours of FL into a little plication, and drain off the swamp and the mental approach to playing the two courses is very similar. Cut your drives to 80% effort and be satisfied with staying in the fairway rather than feeling you have to make a run at every basket.

Come see us when you get a chance. New holes, and IMHO better (read more challenging), #'s 1, 2, 17, and 18 since you did those ratings. Of course benches on over half the holes now, to rest your bones, might actually lower the Ramcat ratings. :eek: :D

Oh, and please don't incite John into making HH even longer and more difficult. I've only had the pleasure of playing Hawk Hollow once and even though I guess it tape measures as a long course, it is so well thought out that it just doesn't feel like a long course. Loved it.

In Maui, there is a course named Poli Poli. It sits on the lee ward side of the 10000 foot Haleakala volcano at at least 6000 ft. Beautiful views, technical and challenging course, and cool locals. What could be better than playing disc golf on top of a tropical rainforest covered volcano in Maui?

In Maui, there is a course named Poli Poli. It sits on the lee ward side of the 10000 foot Haleakala volcano at at least 6000 ft. Beautiful views, technical and challenging course, and cool locals. What could be better than playing disc golf on top of a tropical rainforest covered volcano in Maui?



Pictures??? :)

Ahhhhhh .... sweet memories!

http://fp1.centurytel.net/AxldogAcresDiscGolf/images/015_15.JPG

Killer!!!! Disconsin Dells or Maui? /msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif :D

Hey Lowe,

There's a new private course here in Houston, Oak Meadows. The course is beautiful (remember we're talkin' Houston, although that is an understatement. There are beautiful tunnels, a huge island with a lake on one side and a huge back drop of semitropical trees and
Live Oaks). You need to get it rated, In terms of "metro" courses it is probabaly one of the best; a real mix of big crush holes, and small technical holes with everything in between, including water hazards and some of the roughest shule anywhere (rough = briars etc.) To top it off, the developer and designer have put in concrete pads, big wide ones, and the course has a winding concrete path that goes through the holes but doesn't interfere. To top it off, the course get's groomed like a ball golf course.

Sounds like a city park right? Nope, private development as part of an outdoor theme neighborhood. Best yet, the price... free!

Check out the map at hfds.org/MB/Courses/Oak Meadows

Lyle,

Thanks for the info. I'll be in Houston on business at the end of Dec. I'd love to play the course then if I can get away one day. The course sounds great!

Lowe

a huge island with a lake on one side



i'm sure it's just a wording error but that line gives me a headache.

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