I am bored, so lets hear what everyone is carrying.

2001 CE roc, SE roc, 2 DX rancho, DX otario, DX san marino (all 180), 177 DX cobra, 175 Pro firebird, 175 pro eagle, 175 pro teebird, 175 pro beast, 175 pro leopard, 175 CE JLS, 175 pro whippet, 1 glass, 1 container, 1 towel, 3 minis, 5 pencils, 1 lighter, and 1 ice cold water.

Yup, great classic thread, BTW what are you carrying Kid ?

169 gram XD
174 gram Champion Aviar
174 gram CE Aviar
171 gram CE Classic Roc
176 gram Candy Shark
170 gram pro line gremlin
172 gram 11X kc roc
171 gram 2002 CE Roc
171 gram 2003 CE Roc
171 gram 2001 CE Roc
165 gram Z-XL
166 gram JK Proline Valk
166 gram CE Valk
166 gram proline Beast

175 Wizard - putter and drives under 300'
175 Demon - short hyzers and short windy shots
179 2003 CE Roc - 300-350' hyzers
180 DX Roc (new) - Straight shots up to 350'
180 DX Big Bird Roc (really beat) - Short turnovers
169 SE Valk - Roller
175 Sabre - Long Turnovers and straight tunnel shots
175 CE TL (Last Run) - This is my 1 Wood!
175 Pro Monster - Long hyzers and light headwind drives
175 Pro Firebird - heavy headwind and long spike hyzers
177 Speed Demon (new) - Deadly wind, specialty shots

forgot my CE classic roc

3-4 Aviars (BB)
4-5 Rocs
4-5 Teebirds
1 Firebird Fx

OK here I'll toss out my bag for the public's amusement:

All of these discs are for my side-arm drives:

2 175 Pro Firebirds : Long steady hyzer drives
1 175 beat-in Speed Demon : For monster drives 5 feet off the ground
2 170 new Speed Demons: For Monster S-curves drives
2 175 JK Valks : For an-hyzer drives
1 180 Ram : For short hyzer approaches
4 175 KC Pro Banshees : For everything else

For my backhand drives:

2 175 Kc Eagles: for hyzers
1 175 Kc Teebird: for straight with slight hyzer

2 Omega SS: for putting
1 Omega AP: for tight approaches

Oh and a pile of towels, pencils, snacks, carabiners, 1 birdy bag, and some minis.

Jeff

166 CE Firebird FX
175 KC Eagle
173 KC Eagle
174 CE Leopard
175 Archangel, (BH roller)
174 JLS 1.6, (BH roller)
174 SE Rhyno
175 Pro-Line Firebird
172 Z-MRV, (how do I throw this?)
174 CE Spider
just switched from 175 Omega SS to 175 Aviar
175 proto Wizard
175 TL Teebird

& considering adding:

169 Speed Demon
175 Pro-Line Beast, (BH Roller)

Not mentioning all the incidentals;
174 CE FX Firebird,
174 Z Talon
174 Elite(old) Xtra
173 Z Wildcat
173 X XS
173 Elite XS
178 Z Wasp
178 D Wasp
177 DX Roc
176 (Juliana) Stratus
173-4 X Challenger
175 Q Omega
171 CE Rhyno (HOMIE)!
and 2 175 Aviar Putters

170 X-XS beeat to hades, (roller)
175 X-Wildcat
173 Z-wildat(orange)
175 JK-valk early run (non-see through)
163 CE Valk
175 CE T-bird (TX flag dye)
175 Q-JLS
175 1.8 JLS
175 CE Eagle (Thumb, occasionally backhand)
175 Pegasus (PEGGY SUE!!!! have a bunch, so dont care its not being produced anymore)
175 CE Firebird
174 Z-predator
175 CE Spider (first run pearl, star stamp)
177 Z-wasp
2x 175 JK Aviar-X (gummy)

2 Proto Wizards (1 upshot, 1 putt)
1 very beat Stingray
1 new Elite X Stratus
1 candy Leopard
1 older SE Leopard
1 JK Valk (older, opaque)
1 JK Valk (newer clear)
1 MF Sentinel
1 9x or 10x KC Eagle
1 gettin beat 9x KC Firebird
2 Rams (1 older style, 1 new)
1 Speed Demon

All are used forehand or backhand, but if there's room to spare (laterally and vertically) I throw the new JK Valk forehand for distance, and throw the Eagle or Speed Demon if I need to be more precise. The Rams are for forehand rollers, short curvey approaches, and tomahawks. The Stingray and Stratus are for BH rollers and Wizards are for most everything under 250'.

(4) JK Aviars
(4) Rocs <FONT SIZE="-2">two are 8X, two are reg KC</FONT>
(4) CE Valks <FONT SIZE="-2">two 1st run, one flathead, one reg CE</FONT>
<STRIKE>(4)</STRIKE>3 Firebirds <FONT SIZE="-2">one FX, two CE</FONT>
(1) Monster <FONT SIZE="-2">replaced one of the Firebirds</FONT>

All discs are at or near max weight

(1) Birdie bag
(2) Fig newtons <FONT SIZE="-2">not sure how old they are</FONT> /clipart/lame.gif

From the top of my cart pockets on down.

175 Q-Omega
175 Omega SS Putter
175 CE-JLS
170 Q-JLS
165 Pro Line Beast
168 JK Pro Valkyrie
165 CE Eagle
161 11x KC Pro Eagle
157 CE Firebird FX
165 11x KC Pro Banshee
150 CE Leopard
175 DX Leopard
180 CFR Shark
175 CE Spider
175 CE Classic Roc
179 DX Cobra
180 11x KC Pro Roc
180 DX Flat Top Color Stamp Roc

Discs on the "Try it, you'll like it," roster:

166 Candy Glo Eagle (I already like it, I'm just trying to determine if I like it better than my other two Eagles)

167 CFR Teebird TL (Never have liked Teebirds, but I've never tried these TLs and folks are just crushing 'em)

177 2003 CE Roc (Haven't had the nuts to throw it yet)

Might be time to revisit the D.esert I.sland S.upply of C.hoice thread. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

175 Aviar X
179 8x KC Roc
177 Yellow Super Roc
174 Pro T-bird
174 DX Beast
174 Original Candy Valk.
174 JLS -For rolling-
174 Special Edition Leopard
174 CE TL T-bird
172 Pro Firebird
171 KC Whippet X
174 Pro Monster
1 Birdie Bag
1 Mini marker disc

This is my Basic set up. I'll either add or
Subtract Drivers depending on the course playing.
Players usually check my bag to see what I'm
Throwing. I like the Quad-Shock as well for my
Bag.

<FONT COLOR="ff0000">Shocking news:</FONT> <FONT COLOR="0000ff">ALL DISCRAFT!</FONT>

2- Z Preds
2- X Preds
1- Z Xtreme
1- Z Talon
1- Z Wildcat
1- Z XL
1- X XL
1- Z Wasp
1- Photon Wasp
2- APX Swirls

Oops...memory is failing me.....left 2 off....

175 Pro Monster Org./reddish
175 Pro Beast Pearl

174 Down Under AP Putter
174 Aviar
175 2nd run Hammer
180 Roc
171 Soft Spider
175 CE Spider
178 Z Wasp
176 X Elite Wasp
171, 173, 174 1st run JK Valk
174 CE Leopard
172, 170 CE Firebird
174 CE FX
172 Predator
174 Z Talon

169 Pro TeeBird (light headwinds)
166 Warrior (where control is key)
171 X-Storm (alternates with Warrior)
149 JLS (tailwinds)
171 Z-Hawk (straight/anhyzer upshots)
171 Z-MRV (hyzer skip/slide upshots)
168 Scout (headwinds, stick instead of slip)
174 Z-Putt'r (anhyzer putt/approach)
174 Proto Wizard (hyzer putt/approach)

and

167 DX Beast (new addition to bag)

1 164 CE Valk
2 163 CE FB
1 164 C Beast
1 165 CE Leopard
1 172 XD
1 179 DX Roc

170 Jk Aviar X
170 Champion Aviar
172 KC Aviar
170 CE Rhyno

175 Z Wasp
174 Z MRV
179 KC Roc

166 Pro Beast (pearl)
170 Z wildcat
172 Z XS
174 Pro Tee Bird (clear)
175 Pro Monster (pearl)
171 Pro Firebird (pearl)

Drivers:
168g Pro Line Beast
172g JK Pro Valk
166g JK Pro Valk
172g CE Valk /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
155g CE Leopard
170g Z-Express
165g Z-Wildcat
165g KC Pro Teebird
172g CE Teebird TL
166g "H" Apache
165g "H" Speed Demon
Mid Rangers:
170g Champion Shark
172g Pro Line Spider
170g Pro Line Gremlin
170g DX Gremlin
172g Sting Ray
172g Stratus
172g Whippet
Putters:
170g Omega AP
172g XD

X Xtreme
X Talon
X Predator (beat)
Z Reaper (Thumber &amp; Roller)
Z Wasp
Comet (1st Run)
APX (Swirl)
5 Magnets (gotta practice!)

Potential Future Players
Z Wildcat
X XS (again)
X Wasp
(All 2003 Riverside Open Custom Stamped!!)

2 kc banshees
2 ce valks
2 jk valks
1 rancho roc
1 stingray
3 xds for drive approach(varying degrees of stability)
1 xd putting (its a honey)

Empty can of Fosters, a fistful of jalapeno sunflower seeds that spilled out of their bag, a Harvest Bar wrapper, a half-full bottle of water, a towel with blood stains on it and some discs.

blood stains from leaking man-gina.

You guys carry to much plastic. Pick a few molds learn them, and you will play better.

Thanks Gator, I'll get right on that.

always in the bag--these discs are my bread and butter:

- Wizard 174g - putts and approaches
- Pro-D Wasp 179g - approaches and short drives
- CE Classic Roc 168g - anhyzer approaches
- 4 CE Firebirds (162 FL, 161 FX, 166 FX, 174 Flattop FL) - all levels of stability for flicks and backhands in any wind conditions
- 174g Z-Wildcat - long backhands and hammers

often in the bag:

- 2 Wizards 172g
- Photon Talon 174g
- DX Piranha 174g
- Proline Leopard 174g
- DX Cheetah 174g
- DX Gazelle 167g
- DX Proto Firebird 174g
- 2 JK Opaque Valkyries 174g
- CE Rhyno 171g

currently in testing:

- X-Wasp 174g (I like this one, though I am still getting a feel for when it turns)
- Proline Beast 171g (not sold on this one yet--similar to the Wildcat, but less predictable)
- DX Roc 180g (ace with this last weekend!) - this is a weird Roc that I inherited from a friend--already beaten, very flat on top, and has a chalky feeling to it--not like any other Roc I've seen.

3-180 11 time KC Rocs, new to beat
3-168-174 KC Eagles 10 to 11 time
1-173 CE Eagle
1-175 CE classic Roc for upshots
2-175 classic rocs for putting
1-165 beat CE Valk for long rollers

Praticing with a few z-wildcats...but trying to stick to a few models. Seems to be helping my game near the end of 36 holes, as I dropped 5 pounds of my bag with less discs....more strength on the final holes.

2 Blaze
2 Demons
2 Scouts
2 Speed Demons
2 Sabres
2 Wizards
1 Chief
1 86 Mold Softie
Unrealistic expectations
Irrational optimism
Patience

CE firebird FX
Pro Monster
Pro Beast
Glo CE eagle (no joke)
4th Run CE Eagle
4th Run CE Leopard
Teebird
Leopard
Cobra
CE Spider
11 X KC Roc
10 X KC Roc
Ching Flat Top Roc
2 DX Rocs
Rhyno
3 Aviar Putt and Aprroachs
Big Bead Avair

3 1.7 exp
3 pearle beast
3 1st run valks
4 ce firebirds (2 fx)
4 gators
3 aviar putters
1 gumbputt
1 dx gazelle
5 ce eagles

and a partrige in a pear tree

o0o i forgot the quad shocks, and the 4 towles,2 steel minis, and 5 pencils,ice cold water

Mark you carry 15 different molds! For me that is too many. How can you possibly need that many??? Sorry, I just went back up and saw that you pulled a cart. My bad. That explains it all!

new max weight RAM
old max weight RAM
max CE Firebird
EXP (always carry a driver I don't mind losing in the water)
new max JK Valk
flat top 171 CE Valk
1st run 172 CE Valk
4th run 171 CE Valk
MRV
2 JK Aviar putters

"Sorry, I just went back up and saw that you pulled a cart. My bad. That explains it all!"

Dat wuz funny! "Spoken like a true smart ***." /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Drivers
174 CE Valk 2nd run
167 CE Valk 2nd run
167 CE Valk 1st run
165 CE Valk 3rd run
168 CE Valk 1st run
169 JK Valk 1st run
167 CE Firebird FX
MIDRANGE
171 CE Spider 1st run
180 CE Roc 1st run
2 176 QMS
175 XD
180 CE Aero
PUTTERS
3 175 Soft rhynos
175 CE Avair 2001

DX Valk 175g New/newish
CE Valk 169g 1st run
CE Valk 171g 4th run
JK Valk 168g

Ram 180g
Viper 180
CE Eagle 168g 1st run
DX Eagle 175g 1st run
DX Eagle 168g

DX Roc 180g seasoned
KC Roc 180g newish
CE Spider 174g pearlescent white
CE Aero 180g
KC Aviar 174g 8x

JK Aviar-X 174g
SE Rhyno 165g

DX Eagle 168g 1st run beat
DX Valk 174g newish to beat

Ibuprofin 200mg, 200 count
3 towels
knee brace
assorted "lucky minis"
rulebook/PDGA card/SoCal Card in baggie
scotchbrite pad, new
assorted pencils
sharpie black
sharpie blue

Innova Tour bag
Quad-shocks, 4 caribiner setup.

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I don't usually get to practice a course and tune my bag, so I just bring it all every time. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Don't have them in front of me so can't tell you exact weights but I do know they are all 170 .

2 QJLS-Long range w/wind and low ceiling/tunnel
shots.
2 Z-Wildcats-Long range against a moderate wind.
2 RAMs(old)-Go to disc for short hyzer drives and approaches when there is room.
1 Cobra-For short line drives and short anhyzers.
1 JLS-For anhyzer drives.
1 (beat really bad)JLS-For sky rollers and big
anhyzers.
1 Polaris LF-For overhand thumbers.
1 CE Spyder-For approaches without room for RAM.
1 EXP-For heavy into the wind drives.
1 Wizard-Putter and short approaches.
I carry a Z-X2 for some shots that I feel that are right for it. I have always had a thing for X2's. Probably because most of my aces were with them. Several of these discs I might only use once or twice a round but wouldn't want to be without them.

2 CE FX (175 and 162)
1 CE FL (172 first run)
1 CE Eagle (173 first run)
1 CE TL (172 first run)
1 CE Teebird
1 CE JLS (test run)
2 PL Beasts
2 DX Vipers (upshot and water)
2002 CE Roc
1 ZXL
1 SM Roc
1 DX Shark
4 CE/PL Valks (very flippy to stable)

2 Omega SS puters
2 ace club minis (latest 2 years)

Anything less, the bag feels empty.

On calm days will use the beasts, 2 valks, CE Roc, FXs, Viper, JLS, and teebird/eagle for thumbers

On Windy days will use the beasts, other 2 valks, FXs, Viper, JLS, and CE Roc.

"If I need the shot" discs, ZXL, JLS, SM Roc, Shark, FL and TL.

Other peoples cigg butts, beer cans/bottles, bush trimmers,/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif old landscaping tape, a towel, THE KING, a rule book, my PDGA mini, and a couple of disc.

Z-Predator (First Run)
X-Predator
2 Z-Talons
X-Talon
Z-Wildcat
X-XS
Z-Wasp
2 X-Wasps
D-Wasp (proto)
D-Hawk
Stratus (First Run)
Magnet
Swirl APX
2 Elite APX

171 CE Eagle (2)
174 CE T-Bird (2)
174 CE Leopard
171 CE Valk
175 SE Leopard (Roller)
17? Storm
175 X Stratus
178 CE Roc
180 KC Roc
175 SE Rhyno

Forgot some other discs that are on the "try me" list.

175 Pro Line Gremlin (Been throwing it a bit, but not sure if it'll replace anything else in the bag.)

These two are on the "try me, but don't tell anybody" list. (J/K My-Hero) /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

167-69 Elite X Wildcat (I love the flight of these, having seen other players at about my power and skill level throw them extremely well. Haven't tried it myself yet, but I've got one waiting to be thrown.)

? Weight Z-Wasp (Do they go up to 180 like that disc they seem to be modeled after?) Its the only Z disc that I'm always sold out of, so I figured that was a good sign. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

jk aviars 175---putts
dx rocs 180---most shots, windy putts
03 ce roc 180---more stable mid
dx beasts assorted weights---long throws
172 speed demon---tomahawk,s-curve,heavy wind

Z Wildcat 170, orange
CE TeeBird 169, purple
Z Xtra 171, blue
CE Eagle (2) 174, 160, yellow, pink
Z Xpress 170, yellow
Z MRV (2) 171, 171, orange, blue
Chief (2) 174, 174, orange, purple
Speed Demon 168, white (try me disc, forehand into the wind!)


8 year old son carries:

Dragon, 147, orange
Leopard, 149, orange
TeeBird, 170, orange
Z MRV, 164, orange brain wave
Shark, 150, orange
Blowfly, 171, purple

The blowfly has made his game, and subsequently mine, much more enjoyable. When the disc hits the ground it very rarely rolls or skips away.

Pencils, Mini's, Towels, A Little umbrella (just in case), score cards, markers, water bottel, some extra change, sun tan lotion, bug spray, range finder, clip board, PDGA Card, and maybe a disc or 2 if there's any room left.

some days it is a Wizard, Roc, TL, Firebird and 12 Bud Lights!

Mark- I believe the wasp gets up to a chubby 178g.

Thanks Greg. I'll make a point to pull one of those out for myself to try when I restock them next. I know they're the best selling Dcraft disc of any of their different plastic lines that I carry, because I'm always running out of them. The Elite X Wcat would be a close second.

These discussions are always interesting.......

Here it goes:

(2) Z-Wildcats (For maximum distance)
(1) Z-Talon (More controlled low ceiling shots)
(1) Z-Predator
(1) Z-Xtreme
(1) Comet (short anhyzers)
(1) Photon Wasp, extremely beat. This is my go to disc right now, it will pretty much go where I throw it.
(1) Z-Wasp (overstable midrange)
(1) X-Wasp (stable midrange)
(2) APX Swirls (one old putter, one new approach)
(1) XS, beat up for rollers

As much as I hate to say it the beat up comet may quickly be replaced by the worn in photon wasp. I better bite my tongue. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

My bag /cart is much like Jim's.
Z Cat for long D
Z Talon for controlled long D.
X Pred for anyting and EVERTYHING! GO TO DISC!
XS Slightly beat for rollers and long long Anni's
Z Pred for all overstable conditions
Z Xtreme, Nuff said.
Z MRV Stable mid range when I don't want to beat up the following:
MRX- Old school Black!! $$ disc(if anyone has any black ones email asap)
Hawk, old school warped and beat like no other!
MRV- Beat(rarely used- forehand Z xtreme)
Magnet- Proto beat
Soft Magnet- Main Putter
D Challenger- still learning but the Magnet is getting lonely.
Z Mag- overstable upshots!
There ya have it!

2 candy-type plastic 1.13 LS
1 2nd run CE valk
1 JK valk
1 pro Beast
1 dx Eagle
2 CE Eagles 1st and 3rd run
2 Kc Teebirds 10x and 11x
1 11x Kc cheetah
1 pro Firebird
1 dx Panther
1 Z-reaper
1 glow Roc
1 XD
1 aviar putt&amp;approach
1 omega supersoft

My mess of a bag...
2 175 Pro Firebirds (FH rollers)
1 169 CE Firebird FX
1 171 CE Firebird F (bread...)
1 170 CE Eagle
1 170 Z-Talon
1 169 KC Teebird 11x
1 168 JK Valk
1 170 CE HCF Teebird TL
1 170 CE Leopard
1 169 Q-JLS
1 174 Sentinel LE
1 173 CE Spider (...and butter)
1 180 Q-MS
1 174 DX Classic Roc
1 175 X Challenger
2 175 JK Aviar-x
and 1 200 Condor (spare tire)

I lost my JK Valk inside a Condor in my bag for a week once.

Discraft......

Orange Z-Wildcat (not translucent)
Red USDGC Z-wildcat
3 Photon glow magnets
1 Black [*****] elite x WASP
White (Red D stamped ) First run Wasp. mmmm tasty!
Orange Z-Wasp (Clear Z stamp)
Green (first run Z-Preadator) Ugghhhh yeahhhh!!
Z-Xpress Green....roooolllleeeerrrrrrr.
Blue Stratus also a roller.
GOOD LUCK HEMP NECKLACE on a Discraft bag Navy blue with red trimming Quadshock...

Look what just slipped into my bag!

Smoooth.... (http://studentweb.stcloudstate.edu/steing03/xwasp.jpg)

Lets see:
from back to front;
QMS ace disc- used for the slow turn over
2000 ce roc? straight shot
beat firebird FX for tomahawks
Z-extreme - what Timmy said
Stable orange predator
Beat Green predator- most predictable disc
Stable monster for big hyzers ( texas style)
Flipppy monstor for the slow fade big hyzer
Kc 169 eagle for the big tailwind BOOM
Beat KC/L eagle for the big annie
QJLS trying to learn this disc
Z XS learn this one
JK Valkrie trying to learn this one
1.3 omega AP for the approach shot
Beat 1.15 super soft for the turn over putt.
and the putter a GREEN 1.2 omega AP

and a fairly new metal mini

sheesh no wonder I use a cart.

picture of my son
174 FL new
175 FL Worn
175 F'x-out'
170 1.7 EXP
2 180 Flat top rocs
2 177 D Wasps
1 CE T w/lip 175
2 10X KC Teebirds 170 ish, tailwind crushas
1 Z Reaper or Monster, whatever i grab, overhands
1 Aviar X 200 and in straight or w/ bend upshots
1 175 Magnet primary putter
1 173 z predator, trying to relearn it
revolution bag
quad shocks
3 magnet minis
2 aero minis
pain killers
1 liter Dr Pepper
couple towels

I'm in a state of flux.

2 180 g KC Rocs One a little more beat than the other. accuracy straight shots to slight hyzers.
2002 CE Roc. big long hyzers.
QMS. Ace runs (not that it's hit any)
CE spider. (assorted shots)
Pro Gremlin (long straight to hyzer shots) a littl emore length than the Roc.
Champ Shark (just got it, don't throw it much.)
Beat QJLS. subtle to big anhyzer drives.
newer QJLS. Straight to slightly understable drives.
CE Leopard. Do anything driver. Big S drives.h
CE Eagle. Long straight and hyzer drives.
JK Valk. Stand up and go driver. Mainly long and straight stuff. Escape anhyzer shots.
Pro Monster. New to bag, straight long stuff, wide open, good for Winthrop (water on the left) Rollers.
Pro Beast. most drives. straight and long. this thing rocs.
Champion Aviar. Putting and slow rollers.
10x KC Aviar. Short drives, upshots, ace runs.
Omega SS. Legacy putter. May be switching over to the Aviar again, especially since it's getting warm.

CE Firebird FX - 175 - Hyzers, skip shots &amp; sidearm
Z Wildcat - 172 - Controlled long drives
2nd run CE Valk - 173 - Controlled long hyzers
3 CE Valks - Rollers to straight drives
2001 CE ROC - 180 - Money shot disc
Proto Ontario ROC - 176 - Shorter range money shot
ROC Bottom - 180 - Anything
Stratus - 175 - controlled anhyzers
Wolf - 180 - Slow anhyzers
2 JK Aviars - 3 time &amp; 4 time - aproaches and drives
Soft Magnet - Go to putter
Revolution bag with Quadshocks

Revolution Bag
Quad Shocks
Rock climber's Chalk bag

Rollers:
beat dx Cheetah (super-flippy roller)
Stratus
2nd run CE Valk (FH roller)

Midrange:
CE Classic Roc
CE Spider
Tank (grenades and touch rollers)

Drivers:
JK Valk (150)
Pro-line Valk
QJLS
CE Firebird

Putter:
X Putter

This is the fewest discs I have carried in a long time. I enjoy not having so many choices now. I really like the QJLS and I will be adding more soon and probably removing the Valks.

2- Z Preds
2- X Preds
1- Z Xtreme
1- Z Talon
1- Z Wildcat
1- Z XL
1- X XL
1- Z Wasp
1- Photon Wasp
2- APX Swirls

Ooops, i've already told you fools what my secret weapons are.

Wow!, you putt with a Swirl APX? The only other person I know who does is Scott Papa!

2x 174g Z-Wildcat - low wind conditions, big d
2x 174g KC Teebird - any sort of wind, go-to disc
174g CE Valk - late turnover/'big anhyzer' drives
153g JK Valk - rollers, extremely uphill drives
171g Speed Demon(not broken in at all)

178g Z-Wasp - < 300 drives, most upshots
172g Z-Hawk - downhill or tight tunnel shots < 300
174g KC Aviar - go-for-it disc, putter when windy

2x 175g Omega SS
170g JK Aviar-X - long putts

rollers:
ce 01'nat doubles valk
ce eagle 3rd run(every throw is magical)
drivers:
ce eagle 3rd run
pro beast
ce valk last run(flys good even with tire marks)
ce eagle last run
ce T teebird(farthest,straightest,best.)
11xkc teebird(straight and very stable)
ce FL firebird 1st run
ce FX firebird (oddly overstable)
pro firebird (completely trashed...still a champ)
pro monster
Z xtra 1st run
ce eagle unknown run (will not turn-out,guaranteed
ram new run (when in doubt sling the ram)
midrange:
in need of new z wasp, and roc
Z-magnet
putters:
2 SE-Rhynos
soft magnet
other sh**:
2 towels
gatorade bottle or 2 cans
disappearing pencil
orange and black sharpe's
some papers
change
lighter
knife
golf ba**
tennis ball
metal mini
frizz mini

JK Valk (Turn-over/Tail Wind)
Pro Beast (BIG D)
Pro Monster (Wind)
KC Eagle (hyzer)
Super Roc (finally flippy)
'03 CE Roc (Straight/overstable)
11x KC Roc (Straight)
First Run Challenger (STABLE)
Avair P&amp;A
Omega SS

Doubles of some. Some are just specialty discs, mainly throw the Beast, '02 CE Roc, and my Omega SS. Using the Challenger more and more.

1-pro monster,
1-11x teebird,
1-c.e. tl,
1-c.e. leopard
(all 175)
1-2nd run valk,
1-pro beast
(both 172)
1-9x roc(178),
1-dx roc(177),
1-c.e. avair,
4-dx aviars
(all 174-175)
i really like putters
1-c.e. eagle(172)
1-dx valk(175)
(for rollers &amp; water holes)
now you know/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

at the moment...

CE Firebird FL 175
10x KC Banshee 171
Z-Xpress 168
CE Eagle 172
Z-MRV 175
KC Roc 180
JK Valkyrie 174
Rhyno 165
Aero (classic I believe...or rather, just that old) weight unknown

172-ce Firebird
175-11xKC Tbird
175-dx Whippet
175-2nd run ce Leopard
175-proline Leopard
180-ce Shark
175-01 ce Roc
175-Cobra
175-ce Classic Roc
175-Q Omega
175-11x KC Aviar

speed demon 173
champion beasts 169
dx beast 146
03 ce roc 180
dx rocs 180
jk aviar 175

172g Aviar putter old
172g Aviar putter new
173g Rhino putter
172g Candy Spider new
172g Candy Spider old
175g Roc
173g Spider
170g Stingray
170g CE Leopard
173g JK Valk
174g Champion Beast
173g Champion Beast
169g Candy Firebird
175g Candy Firebird
168g Candy Eagle

Real old 172g Valk that I roll with (almost never)

Gatorade
too many Minis
Couple of beers (unless I am playing PDGA or SoCal events, of course)
pencils
Baseball


Discs that I need - Another Z-XS, mine went 450 feet, but it was lost in the winds of Huntington Beach.

My theory on Midrange - Always have the right disc and don't bogey!!!

that is a great set-up steven

DX Viper (long understable)
DX Valk (big S/distance)
DX Leopard (mid very understable)
KC Cheetah (understable/late hyzer)
KC TeeBird (very overstable)
KC Firebird (stable/forehand/overhand/rollers)
QJLS (long late hyzer)
Elite Z-MRV (mid overstable)
Ching Stinger (mid understable)
(2)Classic Rocs (1 new slight OS/1 beat dead nuts
straight)
Innova XD (short understable/flick putts)
Aviar P&amp;A (putts only)
*All discs 170-175g

I have one of Todd's 'T' Birds in my bag.

and I know you are taking good care of it for me. thanks stan.

as far as strange bags go: doesn't Nolan Grider carry two Aero's, four Roc's and CE Eagle?

George Morales JR. you carry to much crap, stop hanging out with Joey so much!

no, he carries a lot more than that

Nothing but the best, INNOVA baby.

Savory!

Don't do this mix at home. it's dangerous. as a player whose first golf disc was a black master, and a former ultimate player, i got used to plastic that most current golfers would consider
to be understable. Here is what i carry.

Drivers: 174g Z-Wildcat
164g Z-Wildcat
174g CE Valkyrie
170g CE Valkyrie

Mid-Range: 175g Z-Cyclone
172g JLS

Approach: 175g Hawk
175g Spider EX

Turnover/Multi-Purpose:
172g Express
174g beat-up Stingray
170g beat-up Cheetah

Sidearm approaches: 175g Soft Rhyno

Funky little rollers and short controlled shots
i am one of the few who carry:

180g Gopher

Putter: 175g Omega Super-Soft Putter

I know....very strange....at least i don't carry my 230g nite-glow 50-mold Midnite Flyer anymore.

Thats cause it probably broke.....

In my mullet bag i have the following:
(at least i think thats whats there)
1 QJLS new
1 QJLS kinda beat
1 QJLS roller
1 QMS new
1 QMS beat
1 omega driver
1 Sentinel new
1 Sentinel beat
1 Limited Edition Sentinel (kinda beat-new)
1 10x Eagle
1 11x Teebird
1 2nd run ce valk
1 3rd run ce roc
1 beat roc
1 3x JK aviar stable
1 3x JK aviar straight
1 beat to crap glo aviar

I dont' really carry all of these at once for every round, depends on the course i go to and whats needed. I'll average 14 discs in the bag.
One of these days i'll learn to throw some of em.

I think what Schweb is trying to say is that he loves all DISCRAFT discs. Brian u know you want a Z-Preadator.....

thanks kid-roc---my game [especially mental] improved when i realized i only needed a few discs.
putter
approach-rocs in various stages
driver-beasts heavy and light
overstable

Lightning Discs Baby!!

What's up C-lo, when do we see you next.
Schweb

Ride the Lightning!

Let's see ... My basic setup is

170 CE Leopard (drives)
170 CE Roc (upshots)
175 Wizard (putts)

and then there's

172 LX (prayer drives)
170 Spider (straight shots)
?? MRV (spike hyzers)
?? Stratus (new - just starting to throw it)
?? Stingray (annies)
170 Beast (hyzers, skip shots)
?? Wolf (first disc, beat to h*ll, still ticking)

A couple of minis, Sharpie, notebook, pencil, water bottle, and 234982340927306982 cockleburrs

zip lock baggies for scorecards. extra pencils and a permanent marker. lip balm. athletic tape. birdie bag in a zip lock bag. insect repellant. pdga card. spare disc to give away. scrub pad to smooth disc. marker discs. money. towels. compass and thermometer (thanks CHHIII). 2 meter string. drinks and snacks. sunglasses. sunscreen. plus a lot of unneccessary stuff. and bag tag #64. ROCS

Chris,
were those lightning discs with discraft hotstamps you were throwing at Ozark?

Chris,
Don't you throw Firebirds?

Stan, where do you keep your discs? /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

He carries those in a trash bag in the back of the Duke Power pickup truck. Who needs discs when all you do is brush hog new fairways on hellish new holes at Renny? /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Stan, don't forget, Matt's Cel Phone....

Oh ya, gotta have that Innova bag with the cell phone holder. Never lose your cell phone.

Hey Snoop, not to mention that I carry hand loppers and a folding saw to remove problems from the course too. No wonder I walk crookedly.

What's in my bag? A lot of dust from lack of use, maybe a squirrel and some nuts. Last years beat-up discs. But I did order 5 Pro beasts now that the last of the snow is almost melted up here. In my bag:

for backhand drives, 2 or 3 KC tee birds
for sidearm drives 2 Ching Bombs
for high speed turnover shots a Valkerie
for low speed turnover shots a Z-PuttR
for putting a few aviars
for sidearm rollers an X-Clone
for into the wind drives a CE Firebird

some beef jerkey
candy bars
condoms
insect repellent

This week for fun:

133g #1 hyzer (mostly trick shots)
127g #1 helix (main driver)
110g roc (used most putter)
150g DX players package valkyrie (super long shots)
Also have a premium magnet and birdie, but the roc is fine for putting if there's little wind.

Not used to the light stuff; it's tuff on my elbow until I get better tempo. After a bunch of ultra-light disc throws, it's easier to get the timing for throwing the 150g stuff. Is it possible that throwing a bunch of 150g stuff will give you ideas on how to throw max weight with better tempo/technique?

Condoms? Uh...ok.

My bag has changed again...

175 Pro Monster (Purple!)
172 Champion Beast (Pink!)
172 CE Eagle
168 Z-Xpress
175 Z-MRV
180 10x Roc
? Aero*
174 10x Banshee
175 DX Valkyrie�
175 Glo Rubber Putter*
172 Birdie (no Thumbtrac)*

�under consideration for reliable hyzer backhands over water
*testing to decide whether the Aero is really the best of the three putters for me

Pro Gremlin (orange)
Pro Monster (yellow)
Pro Aviar (neon green)
KC Pro Banshee (red)
DX Banshee (yellow)
DX Cheetah (blue)
Polaris LS (blue)-I want to lose this in the water
Thumbtrac Birdie (yellow)
KC Pro TeeBird (white)

This is what I want...
Pro Cheetah
New Pro TeeBird
Candy Classic Roc(if they have them)

Right now I can throw almost any hole that is straight or to the left. If I anhyzer the Cheetah or the TeeBird, I can play a hole on the right, but I lose mad control trying to do that and get enough power.

I have a gently used ce classic rock burning a hole in my closet. Also a pro t-bird (well, 11x) but those are too sweet to give up.

Will, try a beat Roc or a worn in QJLS for those anhyzer shots. Stand perpendicular to the pad when you start your throw, and don't face forward when you release for those anhyzer shots. you will get a lot more power and a stable disc will hold it's line longer when you throw like this... at least for me. A lefty who has a lot of righty holes to deal with.

stratus 170--roller
speed demon 173--overstable
z-cat 168--distance
z-cat 174---wind
dx beast 150--downwind
z-xl/ce lep/talon-control driver [trying to decide]
ce roc--more stable mid
x-wasp--stable mid
dx rocs--midrange
jk aviars---putts

This month just for fun-
175 monster
175 z magnet
175 beast
172 ce 02 usdgc roc
180 kc roc #3-4 slot justing working in the magic

Monster is impressing me, magnet shows potential and durablity (and some serious wet play issues).
Beast might replace my valk. And I havent seen a roc I wont throw then run away with.
-Toby-
...ps Kurt Bayne is my hero..must find poly roc.

I was using a Classic Roc for those holes, but I let my friend borrow mine. I then went and played in a tourny here in Raleigh without it. After the first round, I bought a used one from the TD. Yeah, it was a smart decision. Got an ace on hole 6 at Kentwood. That shot was worth $57.

1-8X Banshee
2-9X Eagles
2-10X Eagles
3-DX Rancho Rocs
1-Stingray
2-Aviar P&amp;A's

Primary Driver: Clear Orange Elite Z XS 170g - Z plastic helps for stability and I get great skip out of it. It also takes a beating very well. One of the farthest discs I�ve ever thrown

Midrange: White Roc 170g - don't use it that much, usually approach with my XS. But it works great for short, tight shots that a driver isn't suited for.

Putter: Blue Aviar 174g - don't use that much because of its weight. Used to the light weights of my driver and midrange, the heavier putter always seems to hit the bottom of the basket. Yet I keep practicing.

Others: Clear Yellow Elite Z XS 169g - Used as a backup driver for hazardous shots like water or other instances where I might lose my favorite driver. (backup for xs)

White Screen printed Elite Z Reaper 175g - Used for straighter shots because of its stability. Also works great in the wind because of its weight.

Clear Yellow Elite Z XL 174g - Used as a back up driver for hazardous shots like water or other instances where I might lose my favorite driver. (backup for reaper)

Nic,
glad to see that someone else likes the Z-XS. I lost mine about 3 weeks ago in nasty wind and brush. /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

My bag has changed yet again.

Champion Beast 172
Pro Monster 175
CE Eagle 172
Speed Demon ...er... not sure
Scout 171
Juliana Bower Stratus 172
10x Roc 180 or 171...not sure which to keep in the bag yet
Z-MRV 175
Birdie (not thumbtrac) 172
Blaze (in testing) 174
Chief 174

I just got a new bag in the mail:

2 CE eagles high 160's
CE Firebird F 165
QJLS 175
2003 CE ROC 176
10X KC ROC 180
2 Ching Rocs 180
XD 175
CE Classic Roc 170
Pirhana 175
Big Bead Aviar (very Stable) 175
2 Aviar P&amp;A 175 and 168 for putting

My bag is changing as well (trying to find my niche):

174 Z Wasp*
180 DX Roc
180 D Comet*
171 Pro Spider*
170 Champion Shark*

171 Pro Firebird
175 dyed 10X KC Teebird
172 10X KC Eagle*
167 Backstamp DX Banshee
170 DX Valkyrie*
165 Champion Beast
150 Dragon

172 Z Extreme*
171 Z Wildcat*
172 Z Xtra*
172 Elite XS
176 Elite XL
170 Z Reaper

*Use primarily

I use the others at courses that are not as brutal to my discs as my home course.

Oh, forgot my putter pocket...

175 DX Rhyno

175 Pro Firebird
175 11x KC Teebird
175 TL (Last Run)
175 SE Valk
180 DX Roc (beat)
180 DX Roc (new)
180 11x KC Roc
178 Z-Wasp
175 Demon
175 Soft Wizard

That's your problem DR, not enough Discraft/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif BTW, i know where you can get a Cam Todd Pro D Challenger/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

175 CE Firebird
175 DX Firebird
175 X-Talon
170 X-Reaper
173 KC Eagle 10x
170 DX Valkyrie
169 DX Roc
180 San Marino Roc
175 XD
175 Aviar Driver
soft aviar putter

2 Beasts
5 Valks
KC Roc
DX Roc
Banshee
Whippet
Cheetah
6 Aviars

Birdie Bag
No Condoms like Morgan
Quad Shocks


Thats all Folks

2 speed demons--156 and 172
2 10x t-birds--166 and 174
2 dx beasts--146 and 172
03 ce roc 180
x-wasp 170
dx roc 175
x-challenger 172
jk aviar 175

175G Speed Demon (may not stay in bag long)
179G QMS
170G 2nd run CE Valk
172G beat 9X Whippet
175G newer 10X Whippet
170G CE Firebird FX or 175G Proline FireBird
175G Monster
175 G 2nd run CE Eagle
174G CE Leopard
174G 10X Banshee
175G JK AviarX
If I'm forced to throw some backhand I'll carry a
169G DX Valk

JM, when are they coming out with the "My-Hero Swirl"?

I'd rather them call it <FONT COLOR="0000ff">"Swirlicious"</FONT>

For long drives down the middle;SE TL 175 hard plastic,SE TL 174 SOFTER Dome,with a little hyser,CE TL 175 for long straight,long S, long turnovers,and sometimes a roller. A QJLS for long turnovers 175.A CE FL 174 for about anything,CE Firebird 174 for headwinds,KC Firebird 10x 174 for fun,Pro Beast 175 ,Pro Monster 175,CE Eagle very beat for rollers[forehand]174,CE Leopard for controlled turnovers,backhand rollers 173 ,A J-BIRD or bottom stamp ROC 180,Pro GREMLIN 175[I use this on about anything ,think the world of it] and AVIAR putters 174.Sometimes a Rhyno,but not lately.No worries.

Did I hear someone say Pro-D Challenger?
I hear only the cool people putt with those! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Especially the expensive $17 ones /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Hey, B.B.D. what in your bag?
D.P.

Cam sells them for $10.

What do you call us idiots that putt with the $20 ones? That must make me beyond cool! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Seriously, about a month ago I started putting full time with the Z-Challenger and anyone who knows me will tell you that I'm right now putting better than I ever have.

This disc feels so good in my hands that I want to hold it all the time. A bit sick, perhaps, but if I keep dropping putts as well or better than I am now, I'll just have to be a little twisted. /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Sandbaggers?

Thanks, sweetheart. I miss you too. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Where can I find a Z Challenger? I am seriously considering getting a UV Challenger just for the novelty of it. Only 300 1st-runs made.

Mark, Randy wants to know if he can feel yours Sunday? Does it feel like sand?

Z Challengers were made for World Doubles only. I'd be surprised if there were any left. Also, there are a few 2003 Worlds models that if anyone throws, that person should be shot! I've thrown them all, the first run blue stays in my bag. I use the D when it rains.

But, back to my bag. Since I'm playing New Lenox tomorrow here's what's in it:
2 Aviar Putters
Q Omega
CE Rhyno
X Challenger
DX Roc
D Wasp
Z Wasp
Z Wildcat
CE FX Firebird,
and maybe a Z Talon depending on the wind.

i've seen Z-challengerS(not worlds) at moody's trailer at pease park!

should only be $15(normal price for Z PLASTIC)

Wrong, Metal. Sorry.

Circular Productions still has Z-Challengers. $20 each. Call us at 830-833-1227 for more info

Tafe, you're gonna have to shoot me. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I ordered one of the World's Z-Challengers and I'm gonna use it as my back up to the 2003 WD silver one.

A little heads up, when you throw these things a little harder like on a drive on a shorter hole, they HOLD, baby! /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

ALLLLRIGHTY THEN,
ok,they sure look like Z-PLASTIC.

Z-Predator, 174 S-Shots, Low Hyzers
candy Valk, 162 Uphill, rollers
champion Valk, 164 Big turnovers, rollers
champion Valk, 172 straight, slight right turns.
Beast, 174 Ultra Long, Straight
Pro Beast, 164 Ultra Long right turn
Candy firebird, 158 Straight shots
Pro Monster, 172 Hard Hyzers, Sidarms, Forehand roller, thumbers
Candy Shark, 177 250 to 150ft. shots
Aviar, 175 under 220. Putter
Candy TL, 174 straight to right turns.

Tons of Minis, PDGA Towel, Quadshocks

No Metal, I meant I thought you were wrong on the price. The Z-Challengers go from $20-$25. I've got a couple left if you want to check them out. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

i still have mine from world's TOTALLY CHERRY!!!

i'm just going off of the price list on the wall.
Z-PLASTIC = $15.00
it could be different for the ZCHALLENGER,i'm not sure. I WILL CHECK NEXT TIME!
let ya know.

WB jr/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Champ Aviar
Birdie
Pro Spider
Classic Roc
Pro Gremlin
Elite X Wildcat
KC Pro Gazelle
KC Pro Banshee
Pro Monster
Pro Beast
KC Pro TBird

2 Rattlers
2 Aviars
1 candy JLS
1 candy Valkyrie (1st run)
1 Rhyno
1 Firebird
1 Classic Roc
1 Millinium AP putter
13 One Dollar Bills compliments of my foursome Sat.
$1.47 in change
2 stubby scoring pencils
2 Circle R scorecards (1 used, 1 not)
1 PDGA Rule Book
23 cigarette butts picked up off various courses

4 Teebirds: CEtl,10xKC,11xKc,and a DX
2 Rocs: glow and dx
2 Valkyries: 2nd run CE, Jk
1 Candy plastic LS
1 3rd run CE Eagle
1 11x Kc Cheetah
1 old stamp XD
1 DX Aviar

Speed Demon - 157
Firebirds - CE-168, Proline-174
Tee Birds - KC 11x-173 &amp; gummy 161, 10x-174, SE TLs 169, 168>rollers
Z-Wildcats - 173 &amp; 168
Beast - gummy 160
Demons - 1 new, 1 beat
Rocs - 3, from new to very beat
Rhynos - 1 dx, 1 SE soft
Aviars - 3 P&amp;A, from new to beat

This is my any-course/situation combination...
I'm so impressed with the Z-Wildcat, that I could possibly see it replacing my Tee Birds...but since there are 2 4-year-old SE TLs in my quiver, this won't happen anytime soon. The Speed Demon allows me to throw an extremely overstable disc a long ways...reliably. Firebirds just feel right when I'm faced with a headwind, or severe L>R crosswind... Ain't nuthin that will replace my Demons/Rhynos.../msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

circle_2, how's that 157 speed demon fly?

2 aviars
1 clasic roc
1 super roc
2 flat dx rocs
1 kc firebird
1 ce firebird
1 kc eagle
1 ce eagle
1 z x2
1 cyclone
1 flat, ce, 1st run T-bird
1 monster (haven't thrown yet)

Paul, the Speed Demon just screams outta my hand, then hyzers like a lawn dart falling to earth...but all the while, it is making forward progress! I threw it last night into a 20-25mph headwind...and this little 157g parked itself 20' out for my first bird of the evening. I would normally have to heave a heavier Firebird with more UMMPHHH...but instead I just snapped this thing...and it took off! I must confess that I've not experimented with light Firebirds, though... It is the coolest-newest disc out there...though my UV Challenger raises more eyebrows.../msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif Am looking forward to actually breaking my SD in...and I'm NO-WHERE-CLOSE to having this thing fly straight...YET!! I'm gonna get a few more, and in even lighter weights...we masters have to persevere to preserve ourselves!
Doc

anybodies throw the Monster? Characteristics???

thanks doc, im gonna be gettin one now.

bag me:
rhyno (long putts /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif)
aviar (short drives)
zputtr (upshots)
pro firebird (wind)
dx beast (straight distance)
jk valkyrie (long s curve)
pro leopard (tight, hard drives)
ROCs (everything else!)

not enough people seem to use rhyno...

anyone own a ching tank and want to tell me about it?

Ellis the tank is a beadless soft rhyno and is less overstable than the rhyno. Use a soft rhyno as your main putter for three years and you have just created your own home made version of the tank.

Monsters ROCK!!

Overstable, but not extremely so....very fast.

great for sidearm

1-175g Monster
1-175g Firebird
1-175g Eagle
1-172g Eagle
1-167g Eagle
1-175g Beast
1-170g Beast
1-167g Valkyrie
1-162g Valkyrie
2-175g Roc
2-172g Soft Ryhno

10x Teebird
CE Valk
CE Leopard
DX Leopard
KC Eagle
Pro Monster
Beat DX ROC
KC ROC
Pro Gremlin
Big Bead Aviar
Small Bead Aviar
Rhyno

11x KC Teebird
JK Valkyrie
Champion Beast
10x KC Eagle
JLS 1.10
11x KC Roc
Beat dx Roc
Storm
Demon
2 Soft Rhyno
1 1st run Soft Rhyno

Another change...

My old reliable Champion Beast is currently MIA, hopefully I will get it back soon...

H-Speed Demon
175 Pro Monster
172 CE Eagle
172 JB Signature Stratus
180 10x Roc
174 Chief
179 double-stamped and double-misstamped (as a Champ Shark) QMS
172 pre-thumbtrac Birdie
179 CE Aero
197 Condor (no, I'm not kidding)

168- Orange Challenger (Birdie putts)
17?-Magnet,pre raised letter era, (short turn putts and drives)
171- Pro D Wasp
172-HD Hawk
170-Z Hawk
172-Limited edition first run XL
171-Elite-X Wildcat
171-Elite-Z Wildcat USDGC Ghost stamp 2002
171-Elite-Z Talon
172- Elite-Z Preditor

168 CE Firebird FX (head wind)
175 Pro Monster (thumber, tomahawk)
175 Pro Beast (Distance Driver)
174 Glo CE Eagle (Sidearm, hard hyzers under 300)
174 4th Run CE Eagle (Turnover Distance Drives)
174 1st Run CE Leopard (Primary Driver)
172 4th Run Leopard (Controlled Driver)
170 SE Valk (Turnovers, Roller)
175 CE Spider (Head Wind)
171 11X KC Roc (Hyzer Mid Range)
178 10X KC Roc (Primary Midrange)
180 DX Roc (Straight Midrange)
166 DX Roc (Turnover Midrange)
177 Champion Shark (Headwind approach, hard hyzer approaches)
175 Glo Aviar (Straight Short Driver)
174 DX Aviar (Turnover Short Driver, Aprroaches)
175 DX Big Bead Aviar (Approach)
175 DX Aviar (Putts)

yeah, my bag is heavy :-)

a glo CE eagle, do you just mean a champion glo eagle?

naw its CE....its not one of the new lines.....it was made for the Raleigh Area Disc League...Innova made them in Banshees and Eagles....and they glo pretty well..played glo saturday night and man did it shine!

Innova made them, for lots of things.....

My Hill Country Flyers one ROCKS!!!!

Cant wait for them to make another mold or three, with that plastic.

GLO CE SPIDER!!!!

yeah they are more stable in the GLO CE Mold....I love my eagle

Robert,do you have back up? It seems 50% of your bag is going to be hard to replace.I remember at the 03 crosstown,swimming touring golfers.If its


so hard to replace,why throw.Hang it on the wall.Once the thought of losing creeps into your mind ,it takes away from your shot.

well dave, Id say everything in my bag but that one eagle I have bag ups of the same disc or something nearly the same.....i dont ever think I will lose the disc...and after all....if I do....it's just a piece of plastic

3 10X KC Rocs
CE t-bird
Big Bead Aviar
Pro line leopard
CE Eagle
FX Firebird

What else do you need?

Can we say z-wildcat for distance?? /clipart/smile.gif

you can, but why give up accuracy for an extra 50'?

If you want to give up accuracy, throw a beast or a valkyrie...

BTW, I nearly aced a 380' hole this weekend with a z-wildcat. No accuracy given up here!

Daniel

I've just got a bunch of these round things that look like plates... all different colors - quite pretty, even.

One day, I may figger out what to do with 'em. /clipart/proud.gif

2 Challengers
172g Z-Wildcat
172g Z-X2
168g 11x KC Teebird
172g 11x KC Roc
171g LS (Roller)

2 H Speed Demons (176 &amp; 177)
174 X Predator
174 Z Talon
174 Z Wildcat
170 Z Wildcat
173 Z Talon (white, 1st run, understable)
174 BEAT Z Predator (roller)
174 X MRX (SWEET!!)
172 X Storm
MAX Challenger
??? <FONT COLOR="0000ff">SWIRL</FONT>
MAX Soft UV Challenger

180 kc roc
169 mrv
174 magnet
174 aviar
172 aviar
175 pro-line monster
174 Z-Preditor
170 Z-Xpress
172 Z-XS
169 XL
169 KC-Gazelle
169 KC-Banchee

2-dx beasts 148
2-11x t-birds 157 and 172
2-h-speed demons 156 and 173
03 ce roc 180
x-wasp 170
dx roc 180
x-challemger 174
aviar-x 175

164 QJLS-Primary Driver
165 JLS-Backup for the Q
165 LS-Backup for the J
168 Champion Beast-Distance
167 JK Pro Valkyrie-Distance
169 KC Pro Teebird-Straight Distance
164 KC Pro Eagle-Hyzer drives
168 Pro Leopard-Anhyzer drives
174 Pro Spider-Straight/anhyzer midrange
170 Pro Gremlin-Straight/hyzer drives
174 KC Pro Aviar-Long approaches
175 Omega AP-Shorter approaches
175 Omega SS-Anhyzer putts
174 SE Soft Rhyno-Wind putter
175 JK Aviar X-Backup putter
174 Champion Aviar-Primary putter

175-DX small bead aviar (primary putter)
175-Elite APX Soft Swirl (secondary putter)
172-Champion Aviar
174-10x Aviar
175-10x Aviar
177-QMS
177-DX roc
180-DX roc
180-10x Roc
174-Elite MRX
172-KC cheetah
174-QJLS
174-KC Valkyrie
172-CE Valkyrie
174-Champion Beast
175-KC Eagle

Im getting a new T-bird and F-Bird (2nd run)

Looks like my light bag these days...

-175 dx super flippy almost arcangel-roc!
-172 11x super durable teebird
-168 01 super roc
-175 best sidearm ever monster
-175 stupid thing wont beatup zmagnet
-175 dye-so I never lose my superroc..mrx

170 Champion Beast
170 CE Firebird FX
170 11x Teebird
174 CE Teebird T
174 CE Leopard
174 SE Leopard
3-175 DX Rocs (new to beat)
175 Stingray
175 CE Spider
2-175 Aviar P&amp;As

I carry a small bag (the smaller Innova one) and try to do more with the discs I have in it rather than carry a huge tour bag -- although sometimes it's tempting.

Right now I have:

174g CE Firebird FX (long drives in the wind, big hyzers)
174g CE Teebird TL (long drives, windy conditions)
172g CE Valkyrie (4th run) (long drives, low wind/straight)
175g CE Valkyrie (3rd run) (really long drives, turnovers)
174g KC Banshee 9X (some forehand shots, hyzers)
170g DX Leopard (anything turnover/roller)
178g DX Roc (bottom stamp) (most 200' or less shots)
174g CE Spider (approach, short drives, more stable than the Roc)
175g Z-MRV (approach, even more stable than the Spider)
2X 174g U2 Prostyle Putters

Only 11 discs. Not bad! The 3rd run CE Valk has a 490' ace on it and I really want to retire it, but I haven't found anything comparable yet. I have an unthrown Valk from the same run but I can't bring myself to take it off the wall. I might buy I used 2nd/3rd run to replace it if I can find one.

I've been playing around with the Elite X Putt'r from Discraft and I am thinking about putting/approaching with those for awhile. Everyone else around here throws Aviars for just about everything and I just can't get consistent with that disc, no matter how hard I try.

Anyway, there you have it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=20851&amp;item=3614266 020

Firebirds - CE-168, Proline-173
Tee Birds - KC-171,161(gummy) SE TL-168,169
Beast - Proline-160 gummy
Z-Wildcats - 173,172
Demons - 173,174
Rocs - 180,179,176 all DX
X-Wasp - Black-174 awesome plastic, awesome feel
Rhynos - 175,174-SE
Aviars - 3

nothing. I lost all of mine at Big Arms. /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

After watching you play today...I can understand why! /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Five Disc Hip Bag

166 CE FB
154 CE Leopard
171 X Storm
174 Fusion Tank
169 Leopard or 110 gm Special Roc (depends how I feel).

Practice Bag 10 discs

166 CE FB
149 CE Valk (occasionally includes a few cousins)
154 CE Leopard
167 Z Xpress (a couple for roller practice)
169 Leopard
171 X Storm
166 XL XL (a couple for roller practice)

On the flat (soccer) practice field, usually my 149 Valk and 155 Leopard are the longest discs in the bag... by up to 40 yards... Ditto for most rollers...

Soccer goal to soccer goal, my 166 CE Firebird usually ends up in the cage in most any wind...

Always in the bag....
1 CE FirebirdX 162
1 Proto Z-Talon 172
1 CE JK Valk 168
1 CE Valk 162
1 X-Wasp 178
1 CE Spider 172
1 Z-Extreme 173
1 Soft Rhyno 168

More minor changes:

moist towelettes
band-aids
lip balm
utility knife
1.5 L tea/lemonade mix
1 rag
3 towels
ghetto improvised bag frame constructed from corrugated cardboard and plastic bags to replace badly abused divider sleeves

and the part the thread actually means...

CE Aero 179: long putts and approaches
Polecat 165 (double stamped as an Eagle): short putts and approaches
Z-Wasp 174: mid-range turns
QMS 179: mid-range straights and curves
CE Eagle 172: left-turn control driver
Pro-line Beast 172: distance driver
Pro-line Monster 175: right turn driver
Condor 197: wind/utility mid-range
Pro-line Leopard 175: backhand driver
JK Pro Valkyrie 174: testing
Z-Wildcat 171: testing

Minus the two testing discs, that's what I used at the cha-ching and zing. First day I was carrying an extra KC Eagle, KC Banshee and JB Stratus but I never threw 'em that I can recall. If I did I didn't like the results.

1 jk valk 170 driver and skip shots
1 dx teebird 168 driver and skip shots
1 kc roc 170 midrange approach and putting

fixing to get a 155g kc teebird any comments on how they will fly

161 champ beast - long range fade shots
17? KC banshe - anhyzer S curve and sharp left turn shots(forarm)
171, 172 ZXS - long range straight and turnover shots
175 - gremlin midrange fade shots
171 - dx roc -midrange turnover and straight
178 - dx roc - midrange straight shots
170 champ aviar - putter
175 leopard...haven't used at all except for a drop in putt

How much has your bag changed? I don't have any of the same discs now that I had 5 months ago, but a couple of the same molds. Now:

Z Predator 174
Pro Firebird 170
KC Pro Teebird 11x 174
Champion Valkyrie 171
X Stratus 176
Z Wasp 176
D Wasp 178 (new)
D Wasp 178 (beat)
X Challenger 174
Wizard 174

Sometimes I'll carry backups for the Teebird, Z Wasp, or Wizard.

1 - magnet, 5 years old
1 - APX swirl
1 - new hard magnet
2 - MRVector, d plastic
2 - stratus, one newish one beat
1 - 172-174 Z-Predator
2 - 170-172 Z-Wildcats
2 - <170 beat XS, x plastic
2 - 169-172 Z-XLs

1 - Discraft proto midrange as soon as approved will replace one of the MRVectors (a job the wasps just couldn't get done)

1 - bag beef jerky
1 - box spare contact lenses
1 - birdie bag
1 - towel
1 - shammy

1 - Heart of Texas #35 bagtag
1 - ZBoas #47 bagtag

166 proline beast
166 ce valk worn and long
166 z-xl
171 2001 CE Roc
179 San Marino Roc long san marino
176 San Marino Roc shorter/ able to turn over
171 11x kc roc (used only when a "losable" roc is required.)
174 CE Aviar long up shots
174 Champion Aviar putter and up shots

Champion cobra on order.

X-Predator 172
Z-Predator 171
Z-XS 172 (very old one)
CE Firebird FX-166
Sometimes a heavy firebird, also.
MRX-175
X-Wildcat 169
Z-Cat 172 (rarely throw it)
X-Xtreme 172
Pro-Line Monster 174 (forehand shots)
SE Soft Rhyno Putters (174 or 175)
And I just put back in 2 oldies, a Z-X2 172, and a 169 CE Leopard for really straight shots.

Really don't have a favorite 'driver' at this point. Just depends on distance and wind. For a fairly open 350-foot hyzer its going to be predator usually, sometimes the X2.
Forehand is going to be Monster for longer shots or ones that need to skip, X-Treme for shorter ones.
MRX comes and goes, depending on how much I play. If playing a lot, I use it more. If rusty, I can always rely on the x-treme to do what I want it to without having perfect form.
Anything over 400 is going to be an XS or Wildcat.

3 175 aviars, one new, one with a little wear, one completely beat.
1 173 CE Leopard
1 174 Z-MRV
1 174 Z-Wasp
1 174 XL, very beat up
2 Z-XS 174 &amp; 169
1 174 Z-Wildcat
1 173 Z-X2
2 Z-Talons 174 &amp; 171

Triangle sport area mini.
A pack of Pall Mall Filters.
Sandpaper.
Black marker.
Towel.

This list will probably be revised soon since i have a triad of CE Aviars and a duad of Z-Crush's coming.

The only thing i use the wasp for is forehand approaches. On any balanced course i throw every disc in my bag at least once during the round. Of the drivers i probably use the heavy talon most.

2 first run red CE Firebirds
2 first run red CE Valks (main drivers)
1 CE Test of 2000 JLS (best rolling disc ever)
2 CE Aero's
1 Texas 10 CE Aviar
1 Classic Roc
1 JLS (I found this discs in the creek and have never taken it out, I use it for short rollers {under 400ft))
1 T-bird 1st run - super beat up, used for very short rollers (under 300) and turnover shots
4 Roc's
- 1989 Circular sky's tour (will not throw near trees)
- Pro with worn out stame (this disc was purchased at PIAS and use to be Worms disc he lost at Texas States {I talked to the guy who found it and also has his name on it)
- Texas states stamp (1998)
- Regular stamp
2 Omega 1.11 - my very soft putters

Without looking I could not tell you the weight of any disc in my bag. It just does not matter. I very rarely look at the weight of a disc when I throw it. When I purchase discs, I try to find the heaviest ones available. Ususlly over 170, but I have throw some good discs inthe 160's before.

As far as what I throw

air shots
325 will usually throw one of the Valks but throw the CE JLS for turnovers or straight shots.
275-325 Roc almost every time, for hard left shots, skip shots or big hyser shots I use the CE firebirds (also the most over stable disc in my bag)
150-250 1st choice is my Classic Roc
-150 usually CE Aero or CE Aviar sometimes one of the putters

On the Ground
400 CE JLS maybe the best disc in my bag. The best rolling disc I have ever rolled.
325-400 Regular JLS, these are not as stable so turn over sooner
200-325 1st run T-bird, this disc has been in my bag for a long time, it has been run over by several cars and hit several trees. It is not even flat anymore. But it is a good discs for short rollers
-200 usually roll a forhand with the CE aviar or one of my putters for shorter shots.

Anyone who knows me knows I will roll when I can. I love to roll. If I can't reach the basket in the air, I will roll if the ground will let me. I do not worry about the wind. I will roll into the wind, no problem. They just don't roll as far (they will also roll more right when they turn over)

My favorite course to play is Waco bottom nine. I role several of these holes (I have managed to loose some great discs in the brazos though)

I learned to roll from the King (Ziggy King) at Fritz park in Irving. I love to roll holes 2 and 8. I have birdied both several times. (hole 2 will teach you how to roll straight. If it turns over too much you are OB, if you roll it to right you are in the creek)

I do not throw "sky rollers", my rollers usually hit the ground less than 75ft from the tee. I loose acruacy when I try to get the big air, I also loose spin on the discs. When I get a good roll, the disc will speed up when it hits the ground because it is spinning so fast. (at least it looks that way)

2 Wizards
Demon
Z-Wasp
3 Rocs
Comet
SE Valk
1st Run TL
10x Teebird
Z-Talon
CE FX
Speed Demon

My June 24th entry above is relatively unchanged. I've added:
171g 11x T'Bird
175g XD
170g Z-Cat (replacement)
157g &amp; 173g CE Valks 2nd run - for speed /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

I've removed my dx Rhyno and lost both of the Z-Cats in water. Other than that, my bag is the same.
I'm playing the Mighty Shunga Nunga Open this weekend in Topeka, KS...and with the water shots there, I'll add some predictable plastic that I'm not so attached to. Can't even imagine losing any of the above...

2 Vikings
2 11X Teebirds
2 Beasts
2 Eagles
1 Ce Firebird
2 Ce FX
1 Pro Firebird (Baseball shots)
1 QJLS
2 Rocs
1 Stratus
2 Tye dye Z Magnets

Usually my Teebirds are my go to's.. But the Viking is really making a strong argument. I love the disc!! Usually if there's a little wind, my FX's are my choice.. I like to keep my options open though..

Bling

pretty much all mine are max weight..174 or 175

PT, you going to houston?

CE Firebird 175 F 1st or 2nd Run
CE Firebird 172 Fx 2nd Run
CE Firebird 169 Fx 2nd Run
CE Valkyrie 175 2nd Run
CE Valkyrie 172 4th Run
CE Eagle 174 4th Run
CE Eagle 172 2nd Run
CE Eagle 171 4th Run
CE Teebird 172 TL 1st Run
CE Teebird 174 T 4th Run
CE Teebird 175 TL 2nd Run
CE Teebird 169 TL 2nd Run
CE Spider 174 1st Run
CE 2002 Roc 172 2nd Run
Champion Pro Worlds 2003 Starfire 172 1st Run
Champion Viking 169 1st Run
DX Beast 174 1st Run
9x Aviar 175
9x Roc 179
SE Soft Rhyno 175
SE Soft Rhyno 175
JK Aviar-x 175

wow, that is a lot of discs!

.....and not one "quality" disc. imho/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Ya, I ususaly carry 18 to 24 discs in my bag. I hardly ever throw anything that is not CE. hehe

Josh

LOL, not one quality huh? lol

Let me guess, you throw Discraft My-Hero? hehe

It's hard to throw anything else but Innova since were in Wisconsin. Allot of people push Innova here. Plus Barry Schultz lives here, how can you argue what he throws, he's #1 in the world. I won't say I don't have discraft discs, but I never use them. I would say the only disc from discraft that I would consider using would be a Wasp. Funny thing, it looks like a Roc. hmmmmm

nobody needs 18-24 discs. do you plan on losing 1 per hole or something?

LOL, No but I like to beat in discs. So I usually take a few extra and empty my bag 3 times over before leagues start. I like to throw for distance, then hyzer, then anni. I like to know what my discs are doing.

discs don't win tournaments. the player does. innova makes some really good discs but I don't think any non-sponsored player should limit themselves to one manufacturer.

Hamm, get out your 4th run Teebird. what color is it? I think that it may be a TL, not a T.

it may be labeled as T, but most (if not all) 4th runs are TL's.

2 h/e speed demons, 166 and 167, one beat to hell that flys like a valk, the other new one for BIG hyzers
1 h/e saber, 165, roller
1 s blaze, 163, tomahawk
1 s g5i, demon, 174, long aproach shots
1 s g6i, demon, 175, shorter aproach shots
1 x MRV, 167, finesse shots under 200 ft
1 h cheif, 170, putter

My bag
172 dx Cobra - I could get rid of
173 TL - Long and a little flippy
172 Candy Firebird - nice hyzer disk
174 Candy Eagle - starting to flip
170 dx Whippet - short hyzer - 300 ft
10x T-bird - great 320 ft disc
172 JK Valk - good disc will come back after a 300 ft anhyzer
174 JK Valk - long and sweet
170 JK Valk - nice and flippy
172 First run Beast - holds anhyzer line
174 second run Beast - long
171 Viking - starting to like long but a heck of a hyzer at end
(2) 171 First run Candy Spider - one spider has 2 aces, the other is trying to get one - best disc in my bag
(2) 170ish dx Rocs - mid range anhyzer
new Aviar putter - long putt shots
old Aviar putter - 30 ft and in putt shots

I have 3 empty spots in my bag, took out 1 disc and have had a serious run of bad luck with discs.

The 3 empty spots were previously inhabited by the following:
168ish Candy Firebird
172ish Candy Eagle
171 dx Stingray

a Starfire is definitely going in there soon.

"nobody needs 18 - 24 discs"
Exactly what is ur basis for this Kid??

Maybe if u only play 2 or 3 courses.
I play all 7 courses within a 2 hour drive of me.
I would say that i use every disc if i play 2 or more rounds.

Hamm, just messing w/ ya/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif It's all out of love for the sport. Yes, i'm a <FONT COLOR="ff0000">Discraft</FONT> representative. Like my teammate Ron Russell said many moons ago, "Plastic is plastic, i just prefer <FONT COLOR="ff0000">Discraft</FONT>." Tell Barry that <FONT COLOR="0000ff">Team Evil</FONT> says, "<FONT COLOR="0000ff">Evil will prevail</FONT>!" He'll know who it came from, and what it means/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Ahhhhh...the Wasp. Hail to the mighty insect that will bite you in the A<FONT COLOR="0000ff">ss</FONT>! "<FONT COLOR="ff0000">Peace</FONT>" be the greetings from the insect tribe/msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

Too many discs can complicate things. Climo said that you need 7-8 discs to cover all situations. Stokely said in his video that he carried 9 discs and those 9 discs could get you through any situation.

I am not saying that you have to put a specific number on it but the more discs you throw, the less you will know each one.

Soft Wizard
Medium Wizard
Z Wasp
KC Roc
X Comet
DX Roc (really beat up)
Valk (rollers)
CE Teebird (TL)
KC Teebird
Z Talon
CE FX
E Speed Demon

I have 12 discs but really sometimes that seems like too much. I am thinking about ditching the Speed Demon because everytime it hits the ground it always get some funky skip or roll. Some days it is predictable and some days it is not.

I really don't "have" to have both the Z Wasp and KC Roc. They do close to the same thing. KC Roc is more grippy, so I get better releases. I throw that one more often. But, the Z Wasp is great for short range skip shots.

I use the Soft and Medium Wizard. I like the feel of the soft the best but it beats up pretty fast. So, I only use the soft for putting and I use the medium for upshots and very long putts.

You can throw as many discs as you want but I find that if you learn about 10 really well, they will become much more predictable. That is just my opinion, though. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

2 aviars [short]
3 rocs [med., shorter rollers]
2 tls [controlled drives]
x-predator [long predictable or slight wind]
x-wasp [distance, long turns and long rollers]
2 h-speed demons [overstable]

Kid,
Well if the real MEN say 9 discs, it sure does make it hard to argue.
I think that the reason that I carry so many discs is if i lose a disc during a round and that Valks are always in transition from being slightly overstable to zip over understable.

Have u tried the new Starfire or Viking yet??
The Viking is kind of kewl because it is fairly long, 400ish, and still cuts over fairly nasty at the end, almost like a firebird.
I couldn't get the Starfire to go much further than my other discs, but it was a good disc in the hand.

Tried them both. I don't like the Starfire because of the wide rim. I don't like the Beast or Monster for the same reason. For some reason they screw up my timing.

I used to use an 11x Teebird for the long hyzers and slight headwind shots and then I tried the Viking and liked it better. It is better into the slight headwind because it is flatter (less wind resistance) than the 11x. Then I tried the Z-Talon (thanks MY-HERO). That seems faster and the rim is a little more narrow (which fits my preference).

The Viking is a good disc but I like the Z-Talon more.

I know what u mean about the rim, some discs just seem to be gripped better than others.
I used to throw a Z-XS and a Z-XTRA, but they got beat up and since this is firmly INNOVA country, they were easier to replace with INNOVA.

Besides, as we all know, the Plastic does not make the Golfer, the Golfer makes the Plastic.

Candy Firebird - Headwind
Candy Monster - thumbers
2 10x Teebirds - one new, one beat for long fades
Candy Leopard - Controlled drives
KC Roc - Midrange
DX Roc - beat for anny
Candy Shark - Midrange hyzers
DX Rhyno - short range hyzers
3 aviars - each for short drives and putting

3- aviar x for drives
2- glow aviar for putts
4- rocs ( glow, 2 dx,KC )
2- proline t-birds
1- Candy TL bird
1- Starfire
1- Viking
1- proline Monster
1- proline Firebird
1- DX gazelle for rollers

Wow....I carry to many discs!!

4 10x rocs (beat to stable)all 180
1 dx ontario roc beat
1 168 teebird, 1 175 teebird
1 ce firebird 170 1 fl firebird 174
1 ce 2nd run valk 175 1 third run valk 168
1 p&amp;a avair 173 1 p&amp;a avair 175
1 11x kc 175 avair

In the bag...
A signed Perry Farrell small bead aviar...

not too mention....(for My-Hero)

Half in the bag...
Last Friday when meeting Navarro and Perkins after the Jane's Addiction show. They showed up for Perry's DJ gig @same bar as last time. It was very cool/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

Wish you were there? Unfortunately, no discs present for signatures.

btw: I'm off to the big apple for 8 wks of work and thinking big time of making a VPO detour.

Will keep you posted.

Take care buddy and tear it up next week at the USDGC.

Jealous guy.

178 Z-Hawk
178 D-Wasp (very flat with a hot stamp)/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif
178 Z-Wasp (dyed)
171 Z-XS (dyed)
172 X-Cat
171 Z-Cat
173 Z-Crush
171 Z-Talon
171 KC Eagle (can't get it out of my bag for thumbers)
171 2nd run FX (can't get it out of my bag for the skip shots)
175 UV Challenger AM worlds stamp (very soft)
175 UV Challenger reg run (medium to soft)

Doesn't matter I suckk anyway/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif/msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

I never said I played a round with 18 to 20 discs, I usually weed out what I need for each round. So I have normally 9 to 12 discs I use in a tourney. I feel the same way also, plastic is plastic, I just perfer Innova.

1 comet, 3 cyclones(1prepat), 3 mrvs, 8 talons, 2 magnets.

New setup during my best period of play to date. I know the golfer makes the plastic and all that, but I'm really enjoying this.

2 Challengers 174 X &amp; Z (Putt with the Z most of the time)
2 Z-Crush 170 171 (Great disc for my power to get extra D)
1 Z-Talon 170 (opaque plastic)
2 Z-Wildcats 168 &amp; 169 (the shizzle)
1 Z-Xtreme (thumbers, short spikes, grenades short skip hyzers, short forehands. A real neat utility disc for certain shots.)
1 Z-Predator 173 (So far more reliable than a Talon into the wind and fast)
2 Elite-X Wildcats 166 173 (These are my number 1 go to drivers now, unless it gets too windy, then I'm throwing the Z's)
1 Elite-X Xpress 169 (A different kind of utility disc /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif)
1 Z-Xpress 165 (These are underated discs for actual golf purposes. Practice field and message board distance stars they'll never be, but for making a golf shot when you need to...)
2 Z-Wasp 178 175 (Both clear flat color stamped)
2 Pro D Wasp 178 (Now the most thrown disc in my bag.)
1 Elite-X Storm 177 (Straight and glides)
1 Elite-X Comet 177 (Straight until halfway through the flight then bends predictably right.)

Wherever you see two on that list, most of the dupes are back ups in the side pocket of my bag where they don't get in the way of the ones I reach for regularly. I do throw both the X-Cats.

I've had a lot of fun learning and setting up my first Discraft bag ever, and have been playing some good golf in the process.

Ching stamp Valk,175g-Long turnover
Champ Beast,171g-Forehand
Z-Xpress, 172g-Long straight
KC Cheetah,172g-Anhyzer
KC Firebird,170g-Tomahawk
JLS,175g-Big hyzer
KC Roc(11x),177g-mid hyzer
Ching Stinger,174g-mid anhyzer
(2)Classic Rocs,170/175g-short approach
XD,175g-short anhyzer,flick putts
Aviar P&amp;A,175g

8 talons? SWEET MOTHER why would you carry so much of one disc. i can see 4 rocs or 5 aviars....but 8 talons?

4 aviars - 3 KC, 1 CE(2001)
3 rocs - 2 KC, 1 CE(2001)
1 CE T
1 CE FX
1 CE F
1 CE eagle

RED, YEAH!

hmm...lets see if I can do this from memory...

174 X Putt'r (plus a few backups if one is scared of the chains that day)
175 Aviar for short (under 250) annies
172 Aviar X
175 Champion Spider
175 X Storm
174 XL
168 and 171 X XS (168 is warped and great for long annies)
168 and 174 Z XS (more stable than the other two and don't have the S flight path) The 168 is new and becomming my favorite and longest driver
168 X Talon (no wind, ,long under trees)
171 and 174 Z Talon for windy days
169 X Predator
170 X Wildcat (long and straight)
170 Z wildcat (too windy for the X)
and of course my 12 year old 175 Birdie that is my saftey blanket...I finally took the beat to hell viper out of the bag /msgboard/images/clipart/sad.gif

Last week at La Mirada I carried:

2 175g Omega SS (one flippy, one freshy)
1 175g KC Aviar (freshy)
3 180g KC Rocs (8x flippy, 11x straighty, freshy)
1 170g KC Tee Bird (11x)
1 165g KC Eagle (10x)
1 172g Proline Beast
1 180g Stingray

I usually add a KC Whippet X for woodsy courses (forehand rollers) and an X-out Beast for windy conditions (ridiculously overstable, no idea what this disc really is). DD

3--aviars
3--rocs
2--t-birds [control drives]
2--x-predator [more stable control drives]
1--150 dx beast [distance]
1--170 z-crush [more stable distance]
2--speed demons [overstable]

Drivers:
Beast {Primary)
Leopard (Anhyzer)
Monster (Into the wind)
Epic (Floats in water)

Mid-range/Long Approach:
Roc (Primary)
Aviar (Anhyzer)

Putting:
Rhyno (Primary)
Roc (Into the wind)

Drivers:
11X KC pro Banshee (sidearm drives on hyzer)
CE Eagle (sidearm drives flat to turnover)
Champion Monster (long D backhand)
Beat DX eagle (anhyzer backhand)

Mids:
Proto Super Roc (long straight roc shots)
2001 CE Roc (mid range hyzer shots)
Two Ching Stamped Rocs (one beat, one new)
CE Classic Roc (shorter version of Super Roc)
DX XD

Putters:
2 Big Bead stiff aviars (one for putting one for driving)
2 DX aviars (one for putting one for driving)

Are we talking in the bag right now, or what is used in leagues/tourneys?

1 Proline Firebird
3 Ce Eagles 1 for over the top others for long hyzer
1 CE T-bird T for long straight shots
1 11 time T-bird for thumbers
3 175 vikings for Super long Straight Drives and S Shots
3 Champ Valks for turnovers
3 Wasps ONE overstable One Stable ONE Nuetral
1 CE Roc Stable
1 BUZZ any line i want it on
1 Soft Magnet for upshots
2 either KC Aviars or D challengers for Putting
1 Q omega first run
1 CE RHYNO for short Stable Drives

yea i know thats alot i just have a problem with buying Plastic and not USING it LOL

JUST be happy you dont have to caddy for me

There is nothing wrong with being Manufacturer specific, it is all up to you and what you feel most comfortable throwing!

1 - Gateway Tour Bag

2 - Speed Demon (172)
4 - Apache (171,172,173,175)
3 - Sabre (174,174,170)
2 - Warrior (172)
3 - Blaze (168,169,170)
3 - Scout (173,173,174)
3 - Demon (166,173,175)
1 - Demon (G6i) (174)
3 - Wizard (172 glow,170 Soft,170 Hard)
2 - Chief ( 167, 172)

Not all 26 discs are used, 19 of them are used regularly - the other 7 are in the pockets of the bag cuz you never know when you are gonna loose one or need that specialty disc.

Jeff:

What happen to your Teebird?

Hamm

Funny you should ask! I used it this weekend at leagues because the format was 1 disc the whole round.

I have found that the warrior flies similar to a teebird, but just wasnt comfortable with it enough - only had it for about 3 days.

Thanks for punkin' me on the Manuf. Specific statement!

And am now in possession of the "NOT SO COVETED" PINK DISC!

A picture of that NOT SO COVETED Pink Disc (http://www.thediscgolfplace.com/pinkdisc.gif)

Loper, Yohann, Josh (my brother) and I got together last friday and My brother beat me by 2 strokes to graciously pass the "Pink Disc" to me.

I know what's NOT in my bag anymore. No <FONT COLOR="ff0000">RED ROCK OF SHAME</FONT> in this bag!!

That is too funny about the NOT SO COVETED Pink Disc. We have a 2 1/2 lb rock that we painted red and wrote SHAME... on. Obviously, the person who shot worst out of the group has to lug that darn thing around till we play again. And no there is not a ROCK OF TRIUMPH. /msgboard/images/clipart/happy.gif

How's that bag feel'n, Metal? /msgboard/images/clipart/proud.gif

since my last post i have Decided to swith to all Discraft except for Champion Vikings Ce Ryhno and a KC Aviar for Drives
now i have
1 proline firebird 168g Changing to Z Extreme or Xtra
2 Z predators 174g Changed From CE Eagles
1 CE Teebird T 174g Going to change to Z X2's
1 11 time Teebird 175g Going to change to Z X2's
3 Champion Vikings 175g
2 Champion Valks 174g 170g going 2 change to Cyclones for turnovers
2 Z Wasps 175g 176g
1 CE Roc 176g
3 Z BUZZZ's
1 Soft Magnet 175g
1 Kc Pro Aviar 171g prolly change to Hard Magnet or X challenger For short Drives
1 Ce Ryhno 170g Replacing with Z Magnet
2 Cam Todd Challengers 174g

Thanks you Discraft for improving my Game
Converted to Discraft From Innova Thrower out

You've switched to "ALL" Discraft? Doesn't look like it. But you are trying to let everyone think you have by all the posts on all the threads or you're trolling for a sponsor???

I love my mom. She got me a Texas Edition Team bag from Revolution (with Proline Quads) for my 28th birthday. She doesn't play, she just looked around on forums and decided I needed it. How cool is that?

Now I can pack everything I need:
----plastic----
1 FX Firebird @ 171g (old plastic)
3 FX Firebird @ 172g (old plastic)
3 JK Pro Valkyrie @ 175g (1st run)
1 H-Speed Demon @ 172g
1 Z-XPress @ 174g
2 KC Pro Roc @ 180g (10x)
1 Champion Shark @ 180g (Texas hits 100 stamp)
4 JK Pro Aviar-X @ 174g (3x)
3 minis
----other----
1 4"x6" clipboard with waterproof clip cover
2 3" pencils
1 Orange Lacrosse Ball (for trees)
1 Shammie (with grommet)
1 small birdie bag (in ziplock)
1 rain shell
1 Golf Umbrella
1 Tube Off Skintastic Sunscreen with DEET
1 Gallon-sized Ziplock for my phone/wallet/keys

I've got room left, and the bag's so light and comfortable. The only shortcoming is that the drink holder could be better - a bottom and a drawstring would kick [*****] (like the lightning bags).

My old tour special finally got retired for newbies to carry - it holds an array of discs:
leopard, shark, stingray, aviar, wizard, reaper, arch angel, and dragon are all in that bag, as they seem to be good for beginners.

So how are those JK Valks working for you Daniel?

Love 'em.
It's real hard, at this point to decide which discs I love best, between the FX, and the two JK discs.
That rainbow stamp JK Valk's started playing hide-and seek with me - I go out jsut before dark to play, lose her in the dusk, end up giving up and playing out, and then find her on the way back to my car. Three games in a row now. She taunts me.

1 Viking
1 KC Banshee
1 Pro Gremlin
1 Polaris LS
1 ZXL
2 ZXS
1 10x Roc
2 JK Valks
1 Champ Aviar
1 Challenger
1 Champion Cobra
1 ZWasp

And I don't know how to reply without "replying to someone else's post"

I toss with my right and left hand.I'm orininally a righty and learning my left hand has allowed me to cut a good portion of my discs out of my bag. My hands/arms have different throwing styles and even different grips. I use a 4 finger "power" grip for my Left hand and a Birdie grip for my Right. I max out at about 400' righty and about 300' lefty with drivers, 325' right and ~270' lefty with mids.

-Drivers-
173 Glow Cyclone - These just work for me! left or right. Used for distance in any direction.

160 DX Raven - My roller as of now. I just found it and it makes a decent roller.

-Mid-ranges-
169 G5i Demon - Beat into a straight to left/hyser disc for either hand but usually just my right. Also used for pancakes, tommohawks, thumbers, skips. My favorite disc. 100% controllable for me! Ace producer!

175 G6i Demon - Beat to completely straight flights. Will also hyser or turnover but I use it for only straight shots. Also preforms well in a tailwind. Mostly for right.

179 DX Roc - Practically new. Just experimenting with it. I don't particularly like rocs. Ok for straight to right lefty shots.

175 Z MRV - This is my go to lefty disc. I can make it do anything I want but I use it mostly for lefty s-curves, straight to right, straight.

-P&amp;A-
174 H Chief - Hard mold. used only for lay ups and lay ins from ~80. any direction.

172 G9i Wizard - Super hard. Used for all putting. Also used for drives around 200. any direction.