2011 Discraft Ace Race @ Knob Hill - 10/16 - Page 2

mprestop · Oct 06 2011, 09:18 PM

Also, handing out or giving away merchandise is not the point at all. Anyone can give away merchandise. Heck I could do 9 CTPs and give away $200 worth of schwag too. The point is that we are not trying to lose money for the club.

gotcha · Oct 07 2011, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mprestop

Please take down the signs at the courses if you could. This will prove that your intentions are not to stir the pot, but to actually help the club and its members and the events that they run.

Thanks,

Mark

So taking down signs will prove to you nobody intends to stir the pot? Or is your request for sign removal simply realization on your part that you forgot to mention anything about the pre-registration deadline on the poster and you now realize there might be people who actually show up the morning of the event with the expectation of being able to participate?

See suggestion I made earlier. In my opinion, not turning away players is much more important than the club having left over Ace Race packages which can be sold or donated at future events. A few left over Ace Race packages will not break the bank of the club. Let us not forget the main focus of the Pittsburgh Flying Disc Society is the promotion of disc sports in western Pennsylvania.

I sure wish the Ace Race tournament director had posting access to this forum. I'd love to hear his opinions on this discussion.

SCOTT · Oct 07 2011, 10:20 AM

Not me! I have heard plenty.

mprestop · Oct 07 2011, 10:32 AM

Jerry - I don't think you are reading my posts. I mentioned it was an oversight if there is not a note on the poster that pre-registration is required. And again, not the first time PFDS communication was less than 100% accurate. The sign at Schenley Park has had the registration deadline posted on it since the day it went up. And yes, taking down the signs would be the considerate thing to do if you didn't want to keep stirring the pot and trying to create a problem where one doesn't exist. You can leave the posters up if you want. But that just proves to me that you are trying to be difficult, by not working to solve a problem that YOU think exists. We are not taking any more entries and you will just have to understand that, hard as it may be.

Also, everything I'm posting here has been consistent with the opinions of Dave Muckicko. He has been working behind the scenes with me on the event planning.

Next year when Jerry runs the ace race, he can run it how he'd like. If he wants to re-order 10 player packs for $200 for 2 late slackers, and then we give away $160 worth of items, so be it. I hope no one pre-registers for the event next year. Why would you if you don't need to? Maybe something will come up that day? Why bother. Then when you have 10 people pre-registered and 30 show up on that day, I will laugh my *** off, when you try to figure out how to have an ace race with 20 discs, and when you tell the people that pre-paid that they have to give up their discs...But i'd guess you'd probably just order 100 packs so you have a chicken in every pot..LOL..I'm glad you are not the treasurer of the club

mprestop · Oct 07 2011, 11:05 AM

The Ultimate Irony of it all is that there would have been no ace race last year, or likely this year, if I hadn't stepped up and put my time, and energy into its promotion. To hear that I'm somehow preventing people from participating in disc golf events is a complete joke. The 53 participants from last year and 40 participants this year would never have played at all if it wasn't for me. But now, I will have no involvement next year, so let's see how Jerry's event goes. If there is no event next year, then Jerry can look in the mirror and see the reason why 40-60 people who might have had an opportunity to play disc golf in an event like the Ace Race, now won't have that chance.

sandalbagger · Oct 07 2011, 11:23 AM

As they say in Columbus, "some of this chit is funny"

Thanks for running the event Mark. I hope everyone who wants to play gets to play.

You do realize that there are thousands of people who play Knob Hill, and probably only 5% of them actually play in our league events or are on our email list. I really don't think Jerry or myself tried stirring any pot. I think Jerry made a suggestion that would work IF people showed up the day of the event that did not pre-register. The sign at Knob Hill says nothing of pre-registration. Perhaps a few people may show up to play this, perhaps not. If ordering packages is a big deal, and you don't want to turn away players, then Jerry's idea would have worked. That same idea has been used at many Ace Race events across the country. It is not some crazy pot-stirring concept. Was just a way to allow more people to play. I know I wouldn't want to be the one telling people that they can't play

mprestop · Oct 07 2011, 08:55 PM

You guys are entitled to your comments, but like I said earlier, if you really wanted to offer advice, you would have done so before the cat was out of the bag and the deadline had passed. And you Chris, you even sent out an email to the list-serv without saying about your reservations first. Then you just hopped onto the bandwagon when Jerry started sharing his great wisdom with us.

Another funny thing about the situation is that Chris and Jerry were both sore after the PFDO in hearing the criticism of the touring pros regarding the courses and how the event was run. HELLO POT MEET KETTLE.

gotcha · Oct 08 2011, 07:30 AM

This is going to be the best Ace Race of all time!

sandalbagger · Oct 08 2011, 10:55 AM

All I said was that Jerry had a good idea for people who might show up that have not registered. Can you not admit that? Are you that stubborn?

I sent out the email because you asked me to.

I replied on this message board because I thought Jerry had a good idea about accomodating more players based on the fact that there is nothing listed about a registration deadline on the Knob Hill Flier.

I understand that you do not want to deal with extra players and I have no problem with that. Just think your comments on here have been very rude. Not once did I ever say "Mark is an *******, or Mark sucks, or Mark is an idiot, as you did to me based on a comment that you misunderstood. So....

you guys have fun, and I hope everyone who wants to play can play the event.

Will you guys be selling mulligans this year like we have done in years past?

mprestop · Oct 12 2011, 10:42 AM

All ace race packs are now spoken for!!!

Bring on the hatorade!

mprestop · Oct 16 2011, 02:14 PM

This year's Ace Race was a great success. 47 players participated and not 1 person was turned away (those speculating for weeks can now rest easily).

Here are the results for those hitting any aces or metal.

Nice job TD Dave Muchicko in running today's event.

Aces/Metal
*Jim Wilson 1ace 1 (Winner in CTP throw-off)
Steve Miller 1ace 1
Craig Meeder 1ace
Matt Rosier 3
chris lachendro 3
j. gary dropcho 3
Scott Heintzleman 2
Jen Johnstone 2
Justin Burdett 2
Cody Winget 2
Tim Shaw 2
Ryan Barnhill 2
Mark Prestopnik 1
Dave Sloboda 1
Paul Harkins 1
Sean Salamey 1
Tim Stouden 1
Joshua Wentz 1
Dave Walker 1

Oct 07 2011, 10:32 AM	#34
mprestop PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: (Mt. Washington) Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 162	Jerry - I don't think you are reading my posts. I mentioned it was an oversight if there is not a note on the poster that pre-registration is required. And again, not the first time PFDS communication was less than 100% accurate. The sign at Schenley Park has had the registration deadline posted on it since the day it went up. And yes, taking down the signs would be the considerate thing to do if you didn't want to keep stirring the pot and trying to create a problem where one doesn't exist. You can leave the posters up if you want. But that just proves to me that you are trying to be difficult, by not working to solve a problem that YOU think exists. We are not taking any more entries and you will just have to understand that, hard as it may be. Also, everything I'm posting here has been consistent with the opinions of Dave Muckicko. He has been working behind the scenes with me on the event planning. Next year when Jerry runs the ace race, he can run it how he'd like. If he wants to re-order 10 player packs for $200 for 2 late slackers, and then we give away $160 worth of items, so be it. I hope no one pre-registers for the event next year. Why would you if you don't need to? Maybe something will come up that day? Why bother. Then when you have 10 people pre-registered and 30 show up on that day, I will laugh my *** off, when you try to figure out how to have an ace race with 20 discs, and when you tell the people that pre-paid that they have to give up their discs...But i'd guess you'd probably just order 100 packs so you have a chicken in every pot..LOL..I'm glad you are not the treasurer of the club Last edited by mprestop; Oct 07 2011 at 10:55 AM.

Oct 07 2011, 11:23 AM	#36
sandalbagger PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Moraine State Park Posts: 2,002	As they say in Columbus, "some of this chit is funny" Thanks for running the event Mark. I hope everyone who wants to play gets to play. You do realize that there are thousands of people who play Knob Hill, and probably only 5% of them actually play in our league events or are on our email list. I really don't think Jerry or myself tried stirring any pot. I think Jerry made a suggestion that would work IF people showed up the day of the event that did not pre-register. The sign at Knob Hill says nothing of pre-registration. Perhaps a few people may show up to play this, perhaps not. If ordering packages is a big deal, and you don't want to turn away players, then Jerry's idea would have worked. That same idea has been used at many Ace Race events across the country. It is not some crazy pot-stirring concept. Was just a way to allow more people to play. I know I wouldn't want to be the one telling people that they can't play Last edited by sandalbagger; Oct 07 2011 at 11:30 AM.

Oct 12 2011, 10:42 AM	#40
mprestop PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: (Mt. Washington) Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 162	All ace race packs are now spoken for!!! Bring on the hatorade! Last edited by mprestop; Oct 13 2011 at 11:39 PM.

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Oct 06 2011, 09:18 PM	#31
mprestop PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: (Mt. Washington) Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 162	Also, handing out or giving away merchandise is not the point at all. Anyone can give away merchandise. Heck I could do 9 CTPs and give away $200 worth of schwag too. The point is that we are not trying to lose money for the club.

Oct 07 2011, 10:20 AM	#33
SCOTT PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lakeview DGC Posts: 327	Not me! I have heard plenty.

Oct 07 2011, 11:05 AM	#35
mprestop PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: (Mt. Washington) Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 162	The Ultimate Irony of it all is that there would have been no ace race last year, or likely this year, if I hadn't stepped up and put my time, and energy into its promotion. To hear that I'm somehow preventing people from participating in disc golf events is a complete joke. The 53 participants from last year and 40 participants this year would never have played at all if it wasn't for me. But now, I will have no involvement next year, so let's see how Jerry's event goes. If there is no event next year, then Jerry can look in the mirror and see the reason why 40-60 people who might have had an opportunity to play disc golf in an event like the Ace Race, now won't have that chance.

Oct 07 2011, 08:55 PM	#37
mprestop PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: (Mt. Washington) Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 162	You guys are entitled to your comments, but like I said earlier, if you really wanted to offer advice, you would have done so before the cat was out of the bag and the deadline had passed. And you Chris, you even sent out an email to the list-serv without saying about your reservations first. Then you just hopped onto the bandwagon when Jerry started sharing his great wisdom with us. Another funny thing about the situation is that Chris and Jerry were both sore after the PFDO in hearing the criticism of the touring pros regarding the courses and how the event was run. HELLO POT MEET KETTLE.

Oct 08 2011, 07:30 AM	#38
gotcha PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lakeview course at Moraine State Park Posts: 3,595	This is going to be the best Ace Race of all time!

Oct 08 2011, 10:55 AM	#39
sandalbagger PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Moraine State Park Posts: 2,002	All I said was that Jerry had a good idea for people who might show up that have not registered. Can you not admit that? Are you that stubborn? I sent out the email because you asked me to. I replied on this message board because I thought Jerry had a good idea about accomodating more players based on the fact that there is nothing listed about a registration deadline on the Knob Hill Flier. I understand that you do not want to deal with extra players and I have no problem with that. Just think your comments on here have been very rude. Not once did I ever say "Mark is an *******, or Mark sucks, or Mark is an idiot, as you did to me based on a comment that you misunderstood. So.... you guys have fun, and I hope everyone who wants to play can play the event. Will you guys be selling mulligans this year like we have done in years past?

Oct 16 2011, 02:14 PM	#41
mprestop PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: (Mt. Washington) Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 162	This year's Ace Race was a great success. 47 players participated and not 1 person was turned away (those speculating for weeks can now rest easily). Here are the results for those hitting any aces or metal. Nice job TD Dave Muchicko in running today's event. Aces/Metal *Jim Wilson 1ace 1 (Winner in CTP throw-off) Steve Miller 1ace 1 Craig Meeder 1ace Matt Rosier 3 chris lachendro 3 j. gary dropcho 3 Scott Heintzleman 2 Jen Johnstone 2 Justin Burdett 2 Cody Winget 2 Tim Shaw 2 Ryan Barnhill 2 Mark Prestopnik 1 Dave Sloboda 1 Paul Harkins 1 Sean Salamey 1 Tim Stouden 1 Joshua Wentz 1 Dave Walker 1