2010 United States Disc Golf Championships

[krazyeye]

What kind of hole is number Five?
6 birdies
59 pars
49 bogies
22 double bogies
20 triple bogies
11 quadruple
8 quintuple
8 worse

I'd like to see that hole.

[trayputt]

In years past there was a bounty for an ace on hole three (it had to go in clean and might have only been for one of the four rounds). There was a sponsor company filming each throw. I think the prize was $10,000, does anyone know if it is going on this year? If so, did Jose Madrid's ace this morning take the bounty?

[USDGC]

I don't believe the bounty is in effect this year.

[cwphish]

Was the DQ initiated by the USDGC TD or by the PDGA governing body?

[RhynoBoy]

Originally Posted by krazyeye

What kind of hole is number Five?
6 birdies
59 pars
49 bogies
22 double bogies
20 triple bogies
11 quadruple
8 quintuple
8 worse

I'd like to see that hole.

Long dog left left with OB Left and short the entire way.

Your drive forces to the right immediately. If you throw straight off the tee pad you'll likely be wet. So a flick, thumber or turnover for a RHBH. Second shot is a long straight shot that you want to use to try to set you up to bomb across the water on your third shot and cut the corner. So basically throw 3 great shots and maybe have a putt at a birdie. Seems like most go in the water at one point.

[seewhere]

Originally Posted by bbotte

Zac was DQed, when the car was pulled from the water, something came out that the police didn't like seeing.

so now the PDGA has control of what you can do even when your NOT playing?? if the police did not arrest him then why does the PDGA have a say it any of it if it was not after the 2 minutes or during play??? agree its a black eye on the sport but how much control over how we live our lives up to the PDGA? i mena if thats the case they can DQ over half the players there DOH

[cwphish]

Originally Posted by seewhere

so now the PDGA has control of what you can do even when your NOT playing?? if the police did not arrest him then why does the PDGA have a say it any of it if it was not after the 2 minutes or during play??? agree its a black eye on the sport but how much control over how we live our lives up to the PDGA? i mena if thats the case they can DQ over half the players there DOH

Innova has a reputation and it's integrity to maintain with Winthrop, so since they are sponsoring the event, I can see why they would DQ him if this is how it went down. Since the PDGA indefinitely suspended Jeff for his situation, I would expect that a similar consequence is coming if they are going to be consistent, especially since this happened on the course during a sanctioned round, and even more so because it is the US Championship. We'll see though. The fact that half the competitors could be DQ'd is speculative, although I would love to see the results of mandatory drug tests after today's round. Will never happen though, as the only pre-requisite to be a disc golf pro is payment of $100 to the PDGA. It is what it is.

[ryangwillim]

Anyone have an idea when they DGU fantasy standings will be updated? I know what their site says, but I'm curious if anyone has the inside scoop as to why it hasn't happened yet.

Thanks!

[warlocks00]

Originally Posted by rickb

We are not ready for the big time until we are able to clean up our image.

...because no one in a "big time" sport ever gets into trouble do they?????

I can't think of one big sport that hasn't had at least 1 person in trouble for something!

[tkieffer]

Was there an update on Josh Anthon and Derek Billings?

[veganray]

Maybe next time he sinks a contraband-loaded vehicle into a lake, before the cops arrive Zachary Cobus will pay heed to the anagram hidden in his name: "SCUBA, crazy ho!"

[krazyeye]

Originally Posted by RhynoBoy

Long dog left left with OB Left and short the entire way.

Your drive forces to the right immediately. If you throw straight off the tee pad you'll likely be wet. So a flick, thumber or turnover for a RHBH. Second shot is a long straight shot that you want to use to try to set you up to bomb across the water on your third shot and cut the corner. So basically throw 3 great shots and maybe have a putt at a birdie. Seems like most go in the water at one point.

According to the caddie book OB on the right all the way as well.

[rickb]

Originally Posted by seewhere

so now the PDGA has control of what you can do even when your NOT playing?? if the police did not arrest him then why does the PDGA have a say it any of it if it was not after the 2 minutes or during play??? agree its a black eye on the sport but how much control over how we live our lives up to the PDGA? i mena if thats the case they can DQ over half the players there DOH

Play had started when the incident happened. Although they run tee times instead of a shotgun start, the 2 minute horn had gone off. And he was charged by local authorities with simple possession.

[MTL21676]

Originally Posted by tkieffer

Was there an update on Josh Anthon and Derek Billings?

Josh posted on facebook about being upset about not coming. But he didn't allude to why.

[rickb]

Originally Posted by warlocks00

...because no one in a "big time" sport ever gets into trouble do they?????

I can't think of one big sport that hasn't had at least 1 person in trouble for something!

To be quite honest I don't give a crap about every other sport and what it's top athletes do. One of the reasons I quit following basketball, baseball, and now almost pro football was due to the actions of the overgrown adolecents that play those games. And in every one of those sports when some idiot gets in trouble, they are dealt with and the sport has to go on the offensive to clean up thier image. Mandatory drug testing comes to mind as does testing for steroids and HGH's.

I do care about Disc Golf. I also care about the USDGC. Enough so that I've spent countless years volunteering, TDing and promoting the sport whenever I can. In all walks of life you will have those that are unable to grow up and start acting like productive members of society. At some point someone needs to step in and say that these actions will no longer be tolerated. We're small enough that this little bit of negative publicity sets us back quite a few steps. If you're not bothered by that, then you are part of the problem rather than the solution.

[cwphish]

Originally Posted by MTL21676

Josh posted on facebook about being upset about not coming. But he didn't allude to why.

http://www.usdgc.com/10/07/injury-pr...from-attending

[warlocks00]

Originally Posted by rickb

To be quite honest I don't give a crap about every other sport and what it's top athletes do. One of the reasons I quit following basketball, baseball, and now almost pro football was due to the actions of the overgrown adolecents that play those games. And in every one of those sports when some idiot gets in trouble, they are dealt with and the sport has to go on the offensive to clean up thier image. Mandatory drug testing comes to mind as does testing for steroids and HGH's.

I do care about Disc Golf. I also care about the USDGC. Enough so that I've spent countless years volunteering, TDing and promoting the sport whenever I can. In all walks of life you will have those that are unable to grow up and start acting like productive members of society. At some point someone needs to step in and say that these actions will no longer be tolerated. We're small enough that this little bit of negative publicity sets us back quite a few steps. If you're not bothered by that, then you are part of the problem rather than the solution.

These points you brought up with this post, and the one I quoted you on earlier are 2 different conversations, in my opinion at least. Neither of which need to take up space on this thread.

All I was saying was becoming a "big sport" does not require a clean image. Proof is in snowboarding being an Olympic sport, or the advertising dollars spent by redbull or mountain dew at the X-games.

What it does take is people that want to watch disc golf, and those number just aren't there no matter how bad we want them to be...they just aren't! Take the live coverage of this tourney, right now it shows that around 1400 people are watching it. (although I am one that does want to watch)

[MTL21676]

Originally Posted by warlocks00

All I was saying was becoming a "big sport" does not require a clean image. Proof is in snowboarding being an Olympic sport, or the advertising dollars spent by redbull or mountain dew at the X-games.

Major difference is their athletes drug test before and after competitions.

[phluffhead]

Um they only drug test snowboarders if they are going to the Olympics. But who really cares about that, this still is a blackeye for disc golf. Someone mentioned that this happens in other sports. Please give me an example where a pro athletes stash has fallen out on the course, court, field or track. The only thing i can think of might be Daly being a little drunk and he to was suspended for that.

[bbotte]

Is it too much to ask on the leaderboard site for "places" to be listed? That is kind of basic info to list there. Why must I count the spots to see what place a friend is in? This is 2010 and with today's technology I would hope it could be done. I mean PGA.com does it without issue. Not to mention it looks goofy without it.

[bbotte]

So nobody wants to talk about favoritism on tee times? Funny how one disc manufacturer's players always get to tee late in the day. Even some getting to switch tee times?

[md21954]

This thread might be the greatest ever. I'm not sure if it makes me want or not want to be pdga member?

[md21954]

Nevermind. How do I throw my mrv takes the cake.

[Fossil]

Originally Posted by rickb

Play had started when the incident happened. Although they run tee times instead of a shotgun start, the 2 minute horn had gone off. And he was charged by local authorities with simple possession.

The word is that it was only after the University found out about the incident and that they demanded he be disqualified. To my understanding it was not the PDGA, or USDGC that made the decision. He got his discs and played, at least for a while and maybe the whole round before removal.

I do hate it for everyone who will be affected by the incident. Staff, Promoters, PDGA and countless players who will be found guilty by association.

On another note it was a beautiful afternoon at Winthrop, with some amazing golf played. Will Schusterick threw OB past the target on his second shot on the par 5 - 901 foot hole 12. So it was stroke and distance. He proceeded to throw his next shot in the DisCatcher!!! Maybe nearly 400 feet. A birdie 4!!!! The crowd went wild!!!

[wsfaplau]

It is also possible the police decided to speak to him about what was found and weren't willing to wait until after his round. You miss a hole while the police have a chat and you are out.

[tanner]

Originally Posted by ryangwillim

Anyone have an idea when they DGU fantasy standings will be updated? I know what their site says, but I'm curious if anyone has the inside scoop as to why it hasn't happened yet.

Thanks!

you were winning when I got off the course.

I was in 5th or 6th

[bruce_brakel]

Originally Posted by seewhere

so now the PDGA has control of what you can do even when your NOT playing?? if the police did not arrest him then why does the PDGA have a say it any of it if it was not after the 2 minutes or during play???

From 2 minute warning to turning in the card applies only to the mandatory disqualification for consumption of alcohol. Disqualification for the consumption of illegal drugs is any time during the tournament, which does not seem to apply here, although one might wonder... There is no time frame specified for illegal activities. It is in the competition manual, not the rulebook.

[bruce_brakel]

Originally Posted by phluffhead

this still is a blackeye for disc golf.

Which is kind of like a black eye for a hermit living in a cave. Sure its ugly, but who is actually going to notice?

[Fossil]

Originally Posted by bruce_brakel

Which is kind of like a black eye for a hermit living in a cave. Sure its ugly, but who is actually going to notice?

Everyone Jonathan and Harold have to work with around Winthrop.

[drdisc]

I wonder if the rule also includes the "Tournament Hotel"?