Ask Steve Dodge about Vibram Disc Golf - Page 4

gippy · Apr 12 2009, 11:57 AM

Any one willing to part with one of these I gotta get my hands on one I have stuff to trade PM me Please

dgdave · Apr 12 2009, 12:16 PM

I don't. I'm trying to get more! I'm OCD for backups

crotts · Apr 12 2009, 05:07 PM

I've replaced my putters with the VP(B)s and have a VP(A) for short drives and approaches in the bag.

: ) :

J_VanOver · Apr 13 2009, 12:51 PM

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Have any of you guys totally replaced your normal putter line up with these?

I have pretty much followed the directions of the trial and replaced the putters in my bag with these. I was carrying 2 SSS Wizards (1 for putting and 1 for short drives) and now have two VPs. (B for putting and an A for short drives). The only thing that I may have changed is that I may use a beat pro-D Buzzz for some up-shots where I would have thrown a Wizard in the past. I can't quite talk myself into using a VP for the shot right now. So for right now they have totally replaced my Wizards. I could possible see going back to a Wizard for those up-shots but may not because I have the Buzzz in my bag any ways and there is no need to have two discs that for the same purpose.

I wish I had more time on the course with them is my only complaint right now.

crotts · Apr 13 2009, 08:56 PM

I was killing some 30-45 fts. at weekly doubles tonight. When you putt them flat they get from point A to point B really quick.

: ) :

Gator515 · Apr 14 2009, 05:59 PM

If you looking for someone to test out those five fingers kto's on some disc golf courses let me know. Those things look like they could be great with all the tough terrain we play on and the weather conditions we play through.

gippy · Apr 14 2009, 06:13 PM

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If you looking for someone to test out those five fingers kto's on some disc golf courses let me know. Those things look like they could be great with all the tough terrain we play on and the weather conditions we play through.

Where did you see these?

atlscott · Apr 15 2009, 11:41 AM

I would love to have one of these if any are available for trade. PM's appreciated.

gippy · Apr 24 2009, 07:32 AM

I am awaiting the arrival of my VP. Steve will these be out to the public by the Vibram????

NOHalfFastPull · May 01 2009, 11:11 AM

Steve Godge,

Thanks for including me in your test.

I told you that a "warm weather" tester was needed.

steve timm

StevenDodge · May 01 2009, 01:17 PM

Thanks for all of the great feedback. The Summit mold should be ready in the next few weeks and if they are happy with the way that it flies (hopefully a nice complement to the VP), it will be ready for field testing in the next month or so.

dgdave · May 07 2009, 06:58 PM

Are the Summits going to ran in the same plastics and flexes as the VP's or are you going to have some new blends?

StevenDodge · May 07 2009, 07:44 PM

We will be working on some new blends. We are going to try to work out a much stiffer blend as well as either the A or B blend. Probably 70%+ of the responses we got said they liked the B (stiffer) blend and/or would like a blend even stiffer. We're going to see what we can do to make that a reality.

jlmeier · May 15 2009, 05:56 AM

I have about 15 rounds under my belt on these. Picked them up about 4 weeks ago, and they are great. I really didn't get them for disc golf because I like my Solomon’s, but I thought what the heck. I 1st thought I would be twisting my ankles and the soles or uppers would tear right through, but they are holding up great. I've played rocky, wooded, and grassy courses with them and no troubles. I'll be playing 7 courses in the Charlotte and surrounding areas this monday and tuesday and see how they hold up to some real abuse. I'll probably get another pair while I'm in Charlotte thinking about the Flows. I have been wearing my KSO's everywhere (work, grocery shopping, out to eat, ect) I love them. I can't stand wearing shoes anymore they are just to constricting.

dgdave · May 17 2009, 09:53 AM

Any updates on the summits? I can't wait to get the VPs less stable brother!!

StevenDodge · May 17 2009, 03:34 PM

The most recent Summit mold should be completed by the end of next week. Aaron is tweaking the rubber blends and if we are happy with how they fly, we may have some ready to ship to testers in the next few weeks.

shteev · May 17 2009, 04:06 PM

will the testers who received the VP be getting the SUMMIT? or is the tester list going to change drastically to all new people? thanks Steve. looking forward to having the counterbalance to the VP

StevenDodge · May 17 2009, 07:02 PM

Most of the VP testers will remain on. We will also be looking for some new testers to fill out the geographic and ability demographics a bit better.

dgdave · May 17 2009, 08:03 PM

Will you just email all the prior testers and let them know if they will be testing the Summits as well?

I'll gladly donate my time again to help out the good cause.

StevenDodge · May 18 2009, 08:44 AM

Yes, that will be happening, along with a status report on where things stand.

MattyInRR · Jun 01 2009, 11:33 AM

Hey Steve!
Just wondering how things are going with the summit? Is Vibram impressed? I was also wondering if you've run any stiffer VP's yet? So far the VP meets 2 of the 3 criteria I look for in a putter. The VP is by far the most durable piece of plastic Ive ever seen. Ive played well over 100 rounds with my VP's and only one of them has a tiny nick on it where plastic is missing... other than that there still isnt even a mark on them. Secondly the VP has lived up to its stability, still as stable as the first day! The only other thing I look for in a putter is the firm/stiffness of the disc and in my opinion thats all the VP is lacking. IM LOVIN THESE THINGS! Cant wait for an update on the summit and VP.

Thank you Steve for puTTing the best puTTer in the world into my hands :-D

Matt Robidas

veganray · Jun 01 2009, 12:09 PM

Per Aaron Ala (Vibram honcho) on the NEFA board:

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Steve and I were out testing the first pressings of the Summit today. First impression is that it is a prefect compliment to the V.P. If the V.P. was Mr. Hyde, the Summit is Dr. Jekyll or something like that. Holds a nice straight line, with a little bit of gas it hyzer flips beautifully, lots more float than the V.P. Taking the feeback from the last round of testing, we have a new X-link formula that we are running them out of. A little firmer and more grip out of the box.

The only bad news is that I will be in Europe next week so test samples wont be ready for a few weeks.

Stay Tuned...

StevenDodge · Jun 01 2009, 12:55 PM

Ditto on what VeganRay said Aaron said. The Summit is my kind of putter. The VP is my kind of putter off the tee. Stiffer is being tweaked. Look for us to be able to get tester samples out in a couple weeks (and don't quote me on that, maybe I should say a few weeks. - )

Also, I may be able to make an announcement one way or the other about a release date for the VP in the coming weeks too.

shteev · Jun 02 2009, 06:19 AM

all exciting info! thanks for the updates and glad to hear that the reg production is happening. had a bunch of wonderers asking me that.

MattyInRR · Jun 24 2009, 11:40 PM

any updates on the Summits?

StevenDodge · Jun 24 2009, 11:42 PM

The first Summits in its first X-Link (which is a firmer version of the B material that the testers got) were run on Tuesday and were a tad heavy (176-177 grams). Aaron and the press fellas are working on a few tweaks and they believe we will be able to get the weight down to the legal 175g limit. We'll find out tomorrow.

MattyInRR · Jun 26 2009, 09:51 AM

sweeet

gippy · Jun 26 2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevenDodge

The first Summits in its first X-Link (which is a firmer version of the B material that the testers got) were run on Tuesday and were a tad heavy (176-177 grams). Aaron and the press fellas are working on a few tweaks and they believe we will be able to get the weight down to the legal 175g limit. We'll find out tomorrow.

AAWWW a gram or 2 why muss I weigh discs before I throw em and have found some of Innovas stuff to be off by as much as 4 grams I had a USDGC SB ROC from 06 said weighed 180 the thing was such a pig I'd throw it with an anny and it would flex out of it pretty quick put it on a scale and it weighed 190 My frist Star Destroyer 178 the 1st run ones and have weighed some 170s and they where 165-168

StevenDodge · Jun 26 2009, 09:16 PM

No official word on a release date yet, but a hint would be that it is about a month and a half away (or at least that is the tentative plan).

Vibram discs will be within tolerance or they won't go out. The QC guy is pretty on the ball - and he seems to always be smiling (which I think is odd for QC guys).

If I did not say it before, the plan is to release the VP in two firmnesses and in three or four weight ranges (167-169, 170-172, 173-175, and 164-166 if we can get that low).

keithjohnson · Jun 26 2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenDodge

No official word on a release date yet, but a hint would be that it is about a month and a half away (or at least that is the tentative plan).

That will be right arond the time of a huge Event in MA. I think.

Maybe I can save you shipping costs if I'm still worthy enough to be a tester.

Apr 12 2009, 11:57 AM	#91
gippy PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 433	Re: Ask Steve Dodge about Vibram Disc Golf Any one willing to part with one of these I gotta get my hands on one I have stuff to trade PM me Please

Apr 12 2009, 12:16 PM	#92
dgdave Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 1,713	Re: Ask Steve Dodge about Vibram Disc Golf I don't. I'm trying to get more! I'm OCD for backups

Apr 12 2009, 05:07 PM	#93
crotts PDGA Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: With Christians and other nihilists Posts: 1,860	Re: Ask Steve Dodge about Vibram Disc Golf I've replaced my putters with the VP(B)s and have a VP(A) for short drives and approaches in the bag. : ) : __________________ TUB4LIFE

Apr 13 2009, 08:56 PM	#95
crotts PDGA Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: With Christians and other nihilists Posts: 1,860	Re: Ask Steve Dodge about Vibram Disc Golf I was killing some 30-45 fts. at weekly doubles tonight. When you putt them flat they get from point A to point B really quick. : ) : __________________ TUB4LIFE

Apr 14 2009, 05:59 PM	#96
Gator515 Community Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 27	Five Finger Shoes If you looking for someone to test out those five fingers kto's on some disc golf courses let me know. Those things look like they could be great with all the tough terrain we play on and the weather conditions we play through.

Apr 15 2009, 11:41 AM	#98
atlscott PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 35	Re: Five Finger Shoes I would love to have one of these if any are available for trade. PM's appreciated. __________________ Throw your life away

Apr 24 2009, 07:32 AM	#99
gippy PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 433	Re: Five Finger Shoes I am awaiting the arrival of my VP. Steve will these be out to the public by the Vibram????

May 01 2009, 11:11 AM	#100
NOHalfFastPull PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 2 M below sea level Posts: 246	Love the VP Steve Godge, Thanks for including me in your test. I told you that a "warm weather" tester was needed. steve timm Last edited by NOHalfFastPull; May 01 2009 at 11:21 AM.

May 01 2009, 01:17 PM	#101
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	Thanks for all of the great feedback. The Summit mold should be ready in the next few weeks and if they are happy with the way that it flies (hopefully a nice complement to the VP), it will be ready for field testing in the next month or so.

May 07 2009, 06:58 PM	#102
dgdave Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 1,713	Are the Summits going to ran in the same plastics and flexes as the VP's or are you going to have some new blends?

May 07 2009, 07:44 PM	#103
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	We will be working on some new blends. We are going to try to work out a much stiffer blend as well as either the A or B blend. Probably 70%+ of the responses we got said they liked the B (stiffer) blend and/or would like a blend even stiffer. We're going to see what we can do to make that a reality.

May 15 2009, 05:56 AM	#104
jlmeier Community Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Old Hickory, TN Posts: 94	Vibram Five Finger KSO's I have about 15 rounds under my belt on these. Picked them up about 4 weeks ago, and they are great. I really didn't get them for disc golf because I like my Solomon’s, but I thought what the heck. I 1st thought I would be twisting my ankles and the soles or uppers would tear right through, but they are holding up great. I've played rocky, wooded, and grassy courses with them and no troubles. I'll be playing 7 courses in the Charlotte and surrounding areas this monday and tuesday and see how they hold up to some real abuse. I'll probably get another pair while I'm in Charlotte thinking about the Flows. I have been wearing my KSO's everywhere (work, grocery shopping, out to eat, ect) I love them. I can't stand wearing shoes anymore they are just to constricting.

May 17 2009, 09:53 AM	#105
dgdave Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 1,713	Any updates on the summits? I can't wait to get the VPs less stable brother!!

May 17 2009, 03:34 PM	#106
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	The most recent Summit mold should be completed by the end of next week. Aaron is tweaking the rubber blends and if we are happy with how they fly, we may have some ready to ship to testers in the next few weeks.

May 17 2009, 04:06 PM	#107
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	will the testers who received the VP be getting the SUMMIT? or is the tester list going to change drastically to all new people? thanks Steve. looking forward to having the counterbalance to the VP

May 17 2009, 07:02 PM	#108
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	Most of the VP testers will remain on. We will also be looking for some new testers to fill out the geographic and ability demographics a bit better.

May 17 2009, 08:03 PM	#109
dgdave Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 1,713	Will you just email all the prior testers and let them know if they will be testing the Summits as well? I'll gladly donate my time again to help out the good cause.

May 18 2009, 08:44 AM	#110
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	Yes, that will be happening, along with a status report on where things stand.

Jun 01 2009, 11:33 AM	#111
MattyInRR PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Round Rock, Tx Posts: 312	Hey Steve! Just wondering how things are going with the summit? Is Vibram impressed? I was also wondering if you've run any stiffer VP's yet? So far the VP meets 2 of the 3 criteria I look for in a putter. The VP is by far the most durable piece of plastic Ive ever seen. Ive played well over 100 rounds with my VP's and only one of them has a tiny nick on it where plastic is missing... other than that there still isnt even a mark on them. Secondly the VP has lived up to its stability, still as stable as the first day! The only other thing I look for in a putter is the firm/stiffness of the disc and in my opinion thats all the VP is lacking. IM LOVIN THESE THINGS! Cant wait for an update on the summit and VP. Thank you Steve for puTTing the best puTTer in the world into my hands :-D Matt Robidas

Jun 01 2009, 12:55 PM	#113
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	Ditto on what VeganRay said Aaron said. The Summit is my kind of putter. The VP is my kind of putter off the tee. Stiffer is being tweaked. Look for us to be able to get tester samples out in a couple weeks (and don't quote me on that, maybe I should say a few weeks. - ) Also, I may be able to make an announcement one way or the other about a release date for the VP in the coming weeks too.

Jun 02 2009, 06:19 AM	#114
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	all exciting info! thanks for the updates and glad to hear that the reg production is happening. had a bunch of wonderers asking me that.

Jun 24 2009, 11:40 PM	#115
MattyInRR PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Round Rock, Tx Posts: 312	any updates on the Summits?

Jun 24 2009, 11:42 PM	#116
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	The first Summits in its first X-Link (which is a firmer version of the B material that the testers got) were run on Tuesday and were a tad heavy (176-177 grams). Aaron and the press fellas are working on a few tweaks and they believe we will be able to get the weight down to the legal 175g limit. We'll find out tomorrow.

Jun 26 2009, 09:51 AM	#117
MattyInRR PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Round Rock, Tx Posts: 312	sweeet

Jun 26 2009, 09:16 PM	#119
StevenDodge PDGA Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: United States Posts: 496	No official word on a release date yet, but a hint would be that it is about a month and a half away (or at least that is the tentative plan). Vibram discs will be within tolerance or they won't go out. The QC guy is pretty on the ball - and he seems to always be smiling (which I think is odd for QC guys). If I did not say it before, the plan is to release the VP in two firmnesses and in three or four weight ranges (167-169, 170-172, 173-175, and 164-166 if we can get that low).

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