Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

But you weren't really askin, were ya?

I was just making a funny but I did get a win this weekend throwing exclusivly INNOVA. I didn't lose a beat with the drivers (Champ ORC, CE FireChicken and CE T-Bird) and of course the ROC but my putting was attrocious. That's expected with 2 brand new virgin discs. The two Aviars I had were glowies and one was too firm and the other was too soft for my liking. I'm searching for that perfect feel. All my friends have real nice Aviars but I'm still searching for that one that is made for me. I'll figure it out realllllll soon!

THANKS!

[widiscgolf]

Kev,

Try some of the new Pro/Champion Mix 2nd Run Pro Line Orcs. YOu will love them!!!

All that 1st run, 2nd run stuff is very confusing to me, it makes my head hurt...I pick discs to throw by how PRETTY they are and then I will figure out how they fly and adjust to the disc.

[thenatureboy68]

Hey kev, Try that Big bead grid aviar. it is more softer than small bead grid aviar. Thought that you would like that one. I met you at Texas 10 finals you were in same card with my friend Andy Schofield. Yep we are hearing imparied discers.

DUDE that was some cool stuff, I really had fun playing with Andy, I wish I could have learned more sign from him. I still only know the international sign for your # 1 Ronald

[thenatureboy68]

LOL .. Whenever you come in my town Arlington. I will teach you some more signs.. SO the way you wont get in trouble.

[hawkgammon]

Kev,

As a fellow believer in pretty plastic the Champion Aviars come dyed!

[jaymo]

Dave have you guys tested the sidewinder yet??? do you know what the ratings might be (innova style) like turn speed glide etc...

thanks

[colin-evans]

I think the omega putt and approach is the perfect combination of grippy yet ridgid...problem is not sure if the are still making them. Dave can you add anything to this?

ce

[widiscgolf]

Kev,

The first run Pro Orcs aren't as durable as the 2nd runs because it was just Pro Line plastic. The 2nd runs were a mix that made them alittle less grippy and more durable.

Kev, this is a reach but some say the new Hydra makes a great putter. You'll have to see how it feels for you though. They are all the same weight 170g -- so that's easy.

PS: We need Ichiro as our lead-off man next year. Can you imagine the Cubbies with Suzuki?

[davei]

Jaymo, the Sidewinder is like a Valkyrie with more turn and more glide.

[davei]

bandsagger, I am not sure what the Millennium line will have this year. It's a work in progress, but we haven't made the Omega Putt and Approach in a while. We are currently making the SS, so it will definitely be in the line up. But, that probably wont help Kevin.

[20460chase]

try a 11x KC......best putter on the market if you like em stiff, but with a little give, or a older soft BB.

[rick_bays]

...snip... the Firebird begins to fly like the original KC Pro, which was flippy.

I still have a bunch of those flippy KC Pro Firebirds, if anybody wants some (PM me).

Hi Dave,

Long time listener, first time caller. I just got a Roc today that was part of a new shipment of Tournament discs for a local (Atlanta) tourney. It's very domey, thick rimed(?) and a very different plastic for a Roc. It has a lot of flash and a very sharp bead. Is this something different?

To all others, if I'm an idiot for asking this question, please email me directly, rather than lambasting me with posts.

Dave, thanks for the Sidewinder -- it will make a nice X-mas present to myself. Did I hear you once say that it was your answer to a candy archangel since the Archangel didn't retain its flight characterics in Champion plastic? Also, is the Sidewinder as fast as a Beast?

I threw the latest Pro Orc run today and was amazed by the carry it has. I have four in blue and two are pure blue and two are a mix of darker blue and lighter blue swirls. Would that be due to color change or plastic mixture or ...? I definitely like how they fly

[davei]

jim, it doesn't sound familiar at all. Sorry. Maybe someone else reading this thread can help out.

[davei]

robj, yes I did say that the Sidewinder was the answer to not being able to produce a turning candy Archangel. No, I don't think it is as fast as a Beast, but it has more glide. The swirling colors are usually due to a color change, but sometimes the molders like to experiment with color effects.

just wondering if you have seen these so called "discatchers" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...117700687&rd=1 is discatcher a licensed name? thanks again

I am pretty sure they just put discatcher in the name so that if people went searching for a discatcher that this basket would pop up. I personally have one (poor boy wanted a basket) and nowhere on it does it claim its a discatcher. I have seen Discraft discs with things like Innova Discraft Gateway.. yadda yadda on the name so that it comes up no matter what company you search for. Just a way to make that item get more hits.

[okcacehole]

Klunker - what do you think about that basket? I already have a portable Discatcher, but have thought about purchasing one of these just due to how cheap they are and would be much easier to tote around when extra holes are needed for a tourney.

Is it a sturdy basket? How does it compare with the other cheaper goals?

I have only had the basket for about 4 or 5 months and it hasn't been out in any bad conditions. It is a little different than standard goals because the radius of the upper chains is the same as the radius of the basket resulting in a lot of bounce outs from hits on the upper chains. The way I look at it though is that I am looking to work on my form and that no 2 baskets are the same. I would love to have a portable discatcher, but this thing does catch discs. I don't care what portable you use, if you hit center of the chains it will most likely go in. So as a practice tool for warming up I highly recommend it. As for tournament play I would just advise everyone if it was on the course that it is a different basket and remind them that everyone will play on it. But I would never make it the first or last hole. Don't want to start a round with an unwarranted bounce out or have to think about a putt to win on that basket. As for portability of it... I don't know how the discatcher disassembles, but this thing when collapsed fits totally within the basket portion. It fits in my back seat and I have a little Hyundai. If you want to know anything more send me a PM. (Don't want to offend anyone by going too far off topic on the Dave D thread)

[okcacehole]

Thanks...just wanted an opinion from someone that owned one. The Discatcher portable is HEAVY

[davei]

Paul, it's not a licensed product. First, I've heard of it. Thanks.

[DweLLeR]

Paul, it's not a licensed product. First, I've heard of it. Thanks.

If the manufacturer is Instep then it is in fact an approved disc golf target. I do believe it is an Instep.

InSTEP LLC Disc Golf Goal
2425 Enterprise Drive, Mendota Heights, MN 55120, (651)468-0133, ext. 221, b.edwards@instep.net

Found on the PDGA pdf of approved discs and targets.

http://www.pdga.com/documents/tech_s...nd_targets.pdf

[widiscgolf]

All I want for X-mas is my Pro Line Firebirds.................hehe

[rick_bays]

If the manufacturer is Instep then it is in fact an approved disc golf target. I do believe it is an Instep.

InSTEP LLC Disc Golf Goal
2425 Enterprise Drive, Mendota Heights, MN 55120, (651)468-0133, ext. 221, b.edwards@instep.net

Found on the PDGA pdf of approved discs and targets.

http://www.pdga.com/documents/tech_s...nd_targets.pdf

"Licensed" and "Approved" are not synonymous.

[jaymo]

I know I ask almost every month but any thoughts on a Dx Orc??? is that in the foreseeable future??? will I ever get my dream disc??? Dave Feldberg had one at the canadian Nationals, and it looked like an awesome disc!

thanks in advance