Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 87

JoeThacker · Oct 29 2004, 10:13 AM

Hey Dave, Not to start a panic, but.. While playing a round in Houston on Tuesday, a local told me that Innova was no longer making Champion Orcs. That seemed a bit suspicious to me, but can you give me the bottom line? I guess I need to know whether to invest my next paycheck into Orcs! Thanks in Advance!!

Joe

Oct 29 2004, 10:53 AM

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While playing a round in Houston on Tuesday, a local told me that Innova was no longer making Champion Orcs.

That's crazy talk!

davei · Oct 29 2004, 02:41 PM

Joe, the rumor isn't true. We have plenty and will continue to make more. We have no reason or plans to discontine one of our best sellers.

JoeThacker · Nov 01 2004, 12:12 PM

I guessed as much. Thanks for the reply Dave!

Nov 01 2004, 01:39 PM

HOUSTONIANS! sheesh get a clue

circle_2 · Nov 02 2004, 09:32 AM

Dave, in the latest DGWN/Barry Schultz interview, Barry mentioned he threw some proto DX Valks... Just curious if these were just 'first runs' or were specifically retooled for Barry?
Thanks.

jaymo · Nov 02 2004, 04:45 PM

Hey dave... any new Proline discs coming out in the near future... I love the new TL blend it's great, when are the 2005 Worlds Rocs coming to Zonedriven???

thanks

gokayaksteven · Nov 02 2004, 05:43 PM

will we see a proline firebird or monster? something overstable in that plastic would be nice

Nov 02 2004, 05:51 PM

Dave,

I was just lookin at an old puma of mine and noticed that it is very simmilar( almost exaclty the same) as the spider, Did the Puma loose the thumbtrack and become the Spider???

Wes

Dana · Nov 02 2004, 07:07 PM

i saw a pro monster the other day....fwiw

Znash · Nov 02 2004, 08:10 PM

What's the next big driver for 2005?
In 2003 it was the beast.

In 2004 it was the orc.

So, what is it going to be in 2005?

I hope its a stable disc for a change.

vwkeepontruckin · Nov 02 2004, 08:16 PM

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i saw a pro monster the other day....fwiw

I think he means the new Proline plastic...not the candy "Pro" plastic...pre-Champion/post CE stuff.

gokayaksteven · Nov 02 2004, 10:34 PM

champ orc is stable. heavy dx beast is stable. pro orc is under, as is champ beast

davei · Nov 03 2004, 07:17 AM

circle 2, they were not specifically retooled for Barry. I assume they were first run.

davei · Nov 03 2004, 07:22 AM

jaymo, the 2005 Worlds Rocs should be available already. If they are not, it is because Innova East (which is handling it) has not recieved art work from the World's committee as yet.

davei · Nov 03 2004, 07:35 AM

jaymo and steven, the next Proline may be a new disc or a Pro Viking. The Monster is not likely soon. The Firebird is a potential at some point. We will use the plastic we used for the second half of the TL run or the Pro Roc plastic as those turned out to be the most durable.

davei · Nov 03 2004, 07:39 AM

Wes, the Spider and Puma are not related. The Puma was similar to a Panther with a Thumtrac and a big bead.

davei · Nov 03 2004, 07:47 AM

znash, there was another big driver you missed. The second run Starfires. More stable than an Orc. As for the next big driver: It's not up yet. Maybe by spring. We have a few other discs we are working on first.

davei · Nov 03 2004, 07:54 AM

jaymo, there are still a few 2004 Rocs left. The proceeds will go to the 2005 Worlds.

mf100forever · Nov 03 2004, 08:02 AM

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"We have a few other discs we are working on first."

Mmmmh, can you give us any info or hints, please......

DiscGolfTool · Nov 03 2004, 08:42 AM

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We will use the plastic we used for the second half of the TL run or the Pro Roc plastic as those turned out to be the most durable.

How do you know a disc is the second half of the TLs (more durable Pro Plastic)?
And were Pro Orcs run in that plastic too?
Thanks,
Matt

davei · Nov 03 2004, 09:46 AM

discgolftool, you would have to have both types together probably. The more durable type would be a little stiffer and not as grippy. Some of the Pro Orcs were made in that material, but the first ones were not.

gokayaksteven · Nov 03 2004, 10:14 AM

have you guys run any pro t's in the new pro blend? good improvement on that plastic----- thanks again dave

davei · Nov 03 2004, 10:58 AM

Steven, the Pro series Teebirds are going to be TLs. They tested better than the Ts.

widiscgolf · Nov 03 2004, 11:21 AM

Yes I would have to say Dave the new Pro blend is excellent!

Znash · Nov 03 2004, 02:04 PM

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znash, there was another big driver you missed. The second run Starfires. More stable than an Orc. As for the next big driver: It's not up yet. Maybe by spring. We have a few other discs we are working on first.

Thanks for the input Dave but I left the Starfire

out because it's a CFR disc and not a regular run even thou I carry two of them in my bag and have six of them at home some first run from the 03 worlds and some from the BGAM's and Michiana. I also left out the Viking.

Nov 03 2004, 02:18 PM

i had an orange candy starfire from a USDGC players pack given to me recently and it looks to be a different mold than the other starfires i have seen. was there some sort of mold retooling done to the starfire?

widiscgolf · Nov 03 2004, 10:46 PM

I did hear about that also.

davei · Nov 04 2004, 07:17 AM

Paul, it was a slightly different version analogous to a slight x version. Plus the plastic was a little different too.

primetime · Nov 04 2004, 11:30 AM

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jaymo and steven, the next Proline may be a new disc or a Pro Viking. The Monster is not likely soon. The Firebird is a potential at some point. We will use the plastic we used for the second half of the TL run or the Pro Roc plastic as those turned out to be the most durable.

Hmmmm........I keep hearing people asking about Monsters in DX or Pro Line plastic......maybe this will give Innova a litle hint?? (hint, hint)

PT Woods
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Oct 29 2004, 10:13 AM	#2581
JoeThacker Community Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 53	Re: Question for Dave D Hey Dave, Not to start a panic, but.. While playing a round in Houston on Tuesday, a local told me that Innova was no longer making Champion Orcs. That seemed a bit suspicious to me, but can you give me the bottom line? I guess I need to know whether to invest my next paycheck into Orcs! Thanks in Advance!! Joe

Oct 29 2004, 02:41 PM	#2583
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Joe, the rumor isn't true. We have plenty and will continue to make more. We have no reason or plans to discontine one of our best sellers. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 01 2004, 12:12 PM	#2584
JoeThacker Community Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 53	Re: Question for Dave D I guessed as much. Thanks for the reply Dave!

Nov 01 2004, 01:39 PM	#2585
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D HOUSTONIANS! sheesh get a clue

Nov 02 2004, 09:32 AM	#2586
circle_2 Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lawrence, Kansas Posts: 2,687	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, in the latest DGWN/Barry Schultz interview, Barry mentioned he threw some proto DX Valks... Just curious if these were just 'first runs' or were specifically retooled for Barry? Thanks.

Nov 02 2004, 04:45 PM	#2587
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D Hey dave... any new Proline discs coming out in the near future... I love the new TL blend it's great, when are the 2005 Worlds Rocs coming to Zonedriven??? thanks __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

Nov 02 2004, 05:43 PM	#2588
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	Re: Question for Dave D will we see a proline firebird or monster? something overstable in that plastic would be nice

Nov 02 2004, 05:51 PM	#2589
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, I was just lookin at an old puma of mine and noticed that it is very simmilar( almost exaclty the same) as the spider, Did the Puma loose the thumbtrack and become the Spider??? Wes

Nov 02 2004, 07:07 PM	#2590
Dana PDGA Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ILL Posts: 623	Re: Question for Dave D i saw a pro monster the other day....fwiw

Nov 02 2004, 08:10 PM	#2591
Znash Membership Expired Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 501	Re: Question for Dave D What's the next big driver for 2005? In 2003 it was the beast. In 2004 it was the orc. So, what is it going to be in 2005? I hope its a stable disc for a change.

Nov 02 2004, 10:34 PM	#2593
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	Re: Question for Dave D champ orc is stable. heavy dx beast is stable. pro orc is under, as is champ beast

Nov 03 2004, 07:17 AM	#2594
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D circle 2, they were not specifically retooled for Barry. I assume they were first run. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 07:22 AM	#2595
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D jaymo, the 2005 Worlds Rocs should be available already. If they are not, it is because Innova East (which is handling it) has not recieved art work from the World's committee as yet. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 07:35 AM	#2596
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D jaymo and steven, the next Proline may be a new disc or a Pro Viking. The Monster is not likely soon. The Firebird is a potential at some point. We will use the plastic we used for the second half of the TL run or the Pro Roc plastic as those turned out to be the most durable. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 07:39 AM	#2597
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Wes, the Spider and Puma are not related. The Puma was similar to a Panther with a Thumtrac and a big bead. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 07:47 AM	#2598
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D znash, there was another big driver you missed. The second run Starfires. More stable than an Orc. As for the next big driver: It's not up yet. Maybe by spring. We have a few other discs we are working on first. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 07:54 AM	#2599
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D jaymo, there are still a few 2004 Rocs left. The proceeds will go to the 2005 Worlds. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 09:46 AM	#2602
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D discgolftool, you would have to have both types together probably. The more durable type would be a little stiffer and not as grippy. Some of the Pro Orcs were made in that material, but the first ones were not. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 10:14 AM	#2603
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	Re: Question for Dave D have you guys run any pro t's in the new pro blend? good improvement on that plastic----- thanks again dave

Nov 03 2004, 10:58 AM	#2604
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Steven, the Pro series Teebirds are going to be TLs. They tested better than the Ts. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Nov 03 2004, 11:21 AM	#2605
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Question for Dave D Yes I would have to say Dave the new Pro blend is excellent! __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Nov 03 2004, 02:18 PM	#2607
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D i had an orange candy starfire from a USDGC players pack given to me recently and it looks to be a different mold than the other starfires i have seen. was there some sort of mold retooling done to the starfire?

Nov 03 2004, 10:46 PM	#2608
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Question for Dave D I did hear about that also. __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Nov 04 2004, 07:17 AM	#2609
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Paul, it was a slightly different version analogous to a slight x version. Plus the plastic was a little different too. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

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