Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[jaymo]

Hey dave, what kind of new products are you guys workin on??

thanks

[davei]

James, yes, but also the rotation of the hips in that direction.

[davei]

The first will be a dx Viking. Still working on the Bulldog.

The ones I have/seen are 2nd runs...

Dave are you planning on running a DX Orc?
Thanks,
RED

[flynvegas]

The first will be a dx Viking. Still working on the Bulldog.

SWEET!

[james_mccaine]

Could you comment on the relationship between how far the hips are open before the unbending of the elbow occurs?

Background: I was looking at some other good throwers and comparing how open their hips were before the unbending. I noticed that some seem to be slightly more open (or their hips have proceeded further through their rotation) and was wondering what the effect of this might be.

While you are at it , could you comment on the openness of the upper shoulders at the hit. I've been intrigued by the fact that some of the really good throwers seem to be much further through their shoulder turn before the hit, but still seem to have the ability to pull through the hit.

[davei]

RED Yes, we are going to run DX Orcs, but not right away. Probably by early next year.

[davei]

James, your first question is easy, the others are more complicated.

The hips should be to their most open position before the unbending of the elbow.

As for differences between good throwers: some good throwers are not the most efficient throwers. These throwers, like Barry Schultz and Steve Rico make up for their lack of efficiency with practice, and athleticism. Barry does not leave himself much elbow to use when he accelerates. He wastes energy getting to the "go" position. Barry has the potential to throw farther, but he doesn't need that nearly as much as he needs to be accurate with the distance he has. He is a 400 + ft thrower, so he is still doing well. Steve Rico's techique is worse for most people, but works for him. His technique requires even more athleticism, flexibility, traction, and balance. I would never recommend trying to throw like Steve. Steve is a very talented thrower, but has a difficult technique.

The players that I would recommend to emulate would be Ron Russell, Ken Climo, Brian Schweberger, Larry Leonard, Steve Brinster, and the best form captured on video would be Walt Haney.

[colin-evans]

Instead of eagles in pro plastic, how about firebirds?

nice to have met you in Iowa.

ce

[Schaff]

SWEET!

I second that.

[jaymo]

yeah Dx Vikings and Orcs... excuse the Homer Simpson drool... ahhlhlhlhlh... ohhh baby.

thanks dave!

[20460chase]

Hi Dave..is there anything you can tell me about the minis we recieved in our player packs at Worlds? A # run or that some people got Gold minis others got green,ect.....and also what can you tell me about the 1st run Aviar minis? Are the glitter/sparkle chips in the plastic weighing agents? Thanks, as always!!

[davei]

Chase, the only answer I have is that the glitter is just glitter. It is not a weighting agent. I don't know which minis were used for the World's. Not much to say about the first run Aviar minis, but we ran both Aero minis and Aviar minis and decided the Aviars were best in candy. We ran assorted colors. We messed around with weighting agents that we normally use and could get them very heavy (for a mini), above 50 gms, but decided the clear candy looked better and was heavy enough. I believe the heavy ones were either purple or white.

Hi Dave, I have really been enjoying the new Pro plastic. Been following this thread for awhile and have not seen an update on the production of the XD in Pro. Last I remember was that it was to be run, but I have not seen it at any of the suppliers. Has it been run, or will it be soon?

[20460chase]

Thanks Dave...we got Aeros in our players pack.I was curious because I seen alot of gold plastic minis and I got a green one.I just remember the limited edition Aero/Aviars from a while ago,and didnt know if there was a limited # of the Worlds minis.I have a 1st run red Aviar thats really heavy.Out of all the colors I have (5) that is the heaviest.Also,will there be plans for a Pro Beast? What about a Starfire? Thanks

[widiscgolf]

Dave:

You probably been asked this before but what is the ETA for the new Pro Line Firebirds?

Josh

[davei]

step, no, the Pro XD has not been run yet. Most likely it will be run in November.

[davei]

chase, we will probably be doing Pro Beasts and Starfires by the end of the year.

[davei]

discgolf, the ETA for the Pro Firebird is early next year. It has gotten pushed back behind several stock discs in the molding line.

[20460chase]

Thank You Sir

Hello Dave,

when do you estimate that the DX Viking will be released?

Thanks in advance.

[widiscgolf]

Thanks Dave.

[mf100forever]

Dave,
do you have a release-date for the Pro-Valks?
There was a test-run of the Condor, have you planned a "regular" run?
Second run of mix Champ/ Pro Orcs?
Will you mix in the champ-plastic in all the Pro-runs in the near future?

Please remember the Champion/ Pro Zephyr !!!

[davei]

Zmirc, the DX Viking should be released in about a month, if everything goes right.

[davei]

mf100, the Pro Valks will probably be released in Dec. Second run of Pro Orcs with mix has been done. They should be in the pipeline by now. No plans for the Condor or the Zephyr in the near future. All of the future Pro runs will have added candy.

[cromwell]

All of the future Pro runs will have added candy.

I think Dave may have just convinced me to give Pro Line another shot. The ones I had tried were far too prone to taco IMO, give me the Pro feel with some added durability and we could have a winner in my book

[20460chase]

Hi Dave...Whats up with the KC blends? I have Gazells and Banshees that feel like Champion and a Whippet that feels like a KC Roc, and there is noticable difference between the 10x and 11x KC Aviars. I thought for awhile that I had a freak Aviar but after getting more they all feel basically the same,and not like the 10x plastic. Thank you.

[davei]

chase, the Gazelle and Banshees are older models. The Whippet was probably a KC Whippet made out of KC Roc plastic. The difference between 10x and 11x KC Aviars is probably due to trying to make one or the other more tacky. It also makes it slightly less stiff.

[Blarg]

Davei:

Are X-outs legal in tournaments?
I have a few X-out Valks from about 8 months ago that say 'Special Edition' on them and I love what they can do.

[davei]

Blarg, yes x outs are legal. They are mostly cosmetic defects, sometimes double stamps. If the disc has a molding defect where a part of the disc is missing, it should be a reject and not an x part. Some of those do get by at times.