Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

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Question from person with illegible signature:

What do you think of no t-shirts at 2004 Worlds.

[haroldduvall]

I believe the move to Augusta will be beneficial for both the PDGA and the National Disc Golf Center as each benefits the other. A world class organization benefits from a world class venue. Likewise, the venue's status is elevated when it becomes the home to the sport's sanctioning body.

And, like Dave and Tim, I am confident in the project because Brian Graham is the point man and he knows how to get things done right.

Take care,

Harold

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That is basically all of the questions posed at Champion's Night. There were some questions that were answered directly through email, and some that were duplicates of other questions. There were only a few questions that were not serious or with illegible handwriting. One of my personal favorites was asked by anonymous:

Will I ever learn to putt?

Thanks again to all who took the time to ask questions and to all who attended Champion's Night in Des Moines. Feel free to continue asking questions on this thread as it is much easier for some users who have to wait for the original Ask Dave D. thread to load.

[davei]

CB and Brian, the Starfire is the flagship of our company. The second run is very long, fast, and much more predictable than the first run. It is our best long range golf disc with a combination of distance and stability that make it both accurate and long. We also have the Pro Orc as the longest flying disc in our line. The first run did not have much durability, but was very long. The latest run is more durable. The Pro Orc is not as good into a wind as a Champion Starfire, but in all other conditions it is good. Downwind, it flies farther.

[davei]

Greg, we will bring back the Pro Firebird at some point. Probably the next time we run Firebirds.

[davei]

Shaine, we could only rerun the original in drivers like TeeBirds. Anything longer like the Valk Firebird Orc Beast etc would be too stiff. We may try to do a special edition Champion TL in the future.

[jaymo]

Thanks Dave

[gokayaksteven]

sounds great dave--thanks. the orcs should be about perfect. very disappointing to hear about the rocs being fundraisers though. next years worlds? it would be nice to just be able to buy and throw a premium roc.

[discndat]

A Special Edition Champion TL? Now Dave, couldn't you just name it a "Special Edition Champion Edition Pro Line KC Barry Schultz JK Teebird TL, not T"? - Just kiddin', couldn't resist!

[slo]

Thanks for the skinny, Dave2; no doubt that guideline is there for an excellent reason, like safety...not a place to skirt borderlines.

...when the latest SE Valks come out, will this involve any "retooling," and not merely a change in plastic? Does retooling that mean only the mold [parts] design is altered, or are the actual [old] mold parts grinded/welded/etc.?

If Harold is still around, I'm wondering in you have a written 'manifesto' of course design availabe?

Thanks all,
Happy discing!
slo

dave have sam PM me about the mini's for my up coming wedding,i need to get some info from him or PM me his number so i can talk to him
thanks
jack

[gokayaksteven]

hey dave-if you guys make special champ tl's, how would they differ from the cfr tl's that are out now? are you saying they would [could] be run out of original ce plastic? as always-thanks again

Dave,

I heard that the Pro Valks will be somewhat the same as the SE
Valks of old. When they are available will they be around for a while or is there a limited # that will be made?

[davei]

Slo, a re tool usually means the old parts are reshaped into new, but it could also mean a new part or entire mold is made. But, to answer your first question last, no, no new tooling is involved. Just a material change.

[davei]

steven, yes we could reformulate the original stiffer slicker opaque stuff.

[davei]

Johnny, they will become a regular disc in the line.

Dave, you have been playing frisbee since 1958?

Did you know Fred Morrison?

What other frisbee pioneers do you remember playing with?

Doug

[flynvegas]

I thought Fred was still alive. Recall reading a few months back that he was at a tourney in Utah.

[davei]

Doug, I have only played organized from 1977. 1958 was just play catch and invent games in my neighborhood. Never met Morrison or anyone else other than the members of the pdga hall of fame.

[slo]

Thanks Dave2, I'm eagerly awaiting those SE Valks...as for Mr. Morrison, I'll second that impression a Ute course/park was re-named for him, recently.

[discchucker]

I'm sure this has been covered somewhere before...but I will ask it anyway...

Dave...now that we have the wide rimmed driver...what kind of advances might we see in the midrange area??? I wouldn't think that you could do a wide rim midrange disc by any means...

Just curious....

Hope you had a good time in Des Moines...we are proud of our courses here...

Dave I throw the spider for a majority of my upshots. I was curious of what understable midrange you may have that would have the mold somewhat similar to the spider, just less stable?

or what if I went down in weight? would that make a difference? I just need an understable midrange.

[Blarg]

Down in weight = any disc = less stable

[Blarg]

Me too. Been playing with frisbees since 1953, 1954?
Had a Pluto Platter. I distinctly remember the day it went down the sewer on my block. Never recovered it.
Jammed freestyle in the 70's with the Washington Street Wizards and Crae Van Sickle and Kerry Kolmar among others. They tried (with not too much success) to teach me the nail delay. Just learned recently that Kerry invented it.

Never lost my fascination with flying discs. The ball of the future!

Sorry to intrude, but one of the only advantages of getting older is having done stuff.

[gokayaksteven]

try a hydra

[rhett]

Dave I throw the spider for a majority of my upshots. I was curious of what understable midrange you may have that would have the mold somewhat similar to the spider, just less stable?

If you are calling the Pider overstable, then you must be throwing a CE Spider. Try a DX Spider for understable.

Dave et al, which will be harder to break, the MTA world record or the MTA mini world record?

MTA World Records:
MTA: 16.72 s Don Cain (USA) 5/26/84 Philadelphia, PA

Mini Disc MTA: 9.92 s Conrad Damon (USA) 9/27/97 Rohnert Park, CA

I finally threw a 13 and have witnessed a 14.47. Does anyone think the 20 second barrier will ever be broken?

Does anyone think the 20 second barrier will ever be broken?

"Ever" is a long time, so assuming we don't blow the planet up or otherwise wipe out civilization, yes.

If you are calling the Pider overstable, then you must be throwing a CE Spider.

Or he could be a BigMiniArm_NotWorldChampion.

Felix, given our proficiency at increasing our capacity to kill one another and our apparent disinclination to solve international conflicts peacefully, I'm not sure your assumption is a safe one. Therefore allow me to refine my question.
Do you think the 16.72 second MTA world record set in 1984 will be broken in the next seven years?
Also, which looks more incredible -- the mini record or the regular one?