Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 69

davei · Jul 20 2004, 11:47 AM

PT, sorry, no idea. I believe those were the first run.

testap · Jul 20 2004, 11:51 AM

ok well thx

20460chase · Jul 20 2004, 12:08 PM

Hey Dave...I really enjoyed your interview in the new DGWN and thanks for hitting the boards to answer eveyones questions. What do you have planned for player packages at Worlds? Thanks

davei · Jul 20 2004, 12:43 PM

chase, I don't know at this time. I think Innova East is handling that for us.

mikeP · Jul 20 2004, 02:14 PM

Dave,

If you don't mind sharing, what's going on in your head right now with respect to new Innovational disc designs? Is the Orc the pinnacle of speed/glide, or do you have some other ideas to try out still? Is distance still the focus, or have you been thinking more of control? Thanks.

Rodney Gilmore · Jul 20 2004, 04:10 PM

I've got a question for you Dave. I have heard that innova has run out of the plastic used in the KC rocs. Is this just a rumor? If not, then what can we expect the next rocs to be like?

lowe · Jul 20 2004, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Matt, a superlight Shark will work well if you know how to throw it. It needs to weigh around 112 gms or less.

Dave,
Where could I find a light Shark like this?

Lowe

Jul 21 2004, 12:27 AM

I'm curious about that too. I saw some Sharks that were 125g the other day at a junior course challenge involving E.D.G.E. and almost bought one -- would that be a bit too heavy for MTA?

I've also heard the MTA Rocs are nicknamed "pebbles."
Is there any trick to finding the super light Classic Rocs?
a friend loaned me his 'pebble' -- but I'd love to try a premi Classic.

davei · Jul 21 2004, 12:36 PM

discspeed, the latest design was for a midrange, the Bulldog, however testing has revealed a possible flaw I am working on now. The Orc is not the pinnacle of distance forever. Probably next year, we will have a topper. I am always thinking of control. Sometimes it's shortrange, and sometimes long.

davei · Jul 21 2004, 12:37 PM

Rodney, just a rumour.

davei · Jul 21 2004, 12:39 PM

Hi Lowe, probably very few around. You would have to get help from Sam out here or maybe Harold on the East coast.

davei · Jul 21 2004, 12:42 PM

robj, the light 125gm Sharks are EDGE Sharks. The original Roc was referred to as the Pebble, the little Roc. We don't make those any more at the low weight. We could if we had a significant outlet (store or such). The Classic run is coming soon.

Jul 21 2004, 02:13 PM

Would a 125g EDGE Shark work well for MTA or is it too heavy?

davei · Jul 21 2004, 03:35 PM

robj, too heavy unless there is a lot of wind and you throw back door.

Jul 22 2004, 05:02 AM

Dave,

Any chance for additional models of full colour discs. I would like to see for instance a Rhyno?
Any news on XD in Pro plastic?

davei · Jul 22 2004, 07:42 AM

Gelrod, we have two color processes. "Full color" is done on the East Coast, and INNcolor is done on the west coast. INNcolor is limited by technology at this point. Full color is only limited to DX at present. The XD is coming up in the rotation next. We will run at least a limited amount of Pro XDs.

20460chase · Jul 22 2004, 09:42 AM

Dave...any word on those aniversary Avairs?

davei · Jul 22 2004, 11:44 AM

Chase, still haven't seen the art yet. We are running the discs now.

Jul 22 2004, 11:51 AM

Will the anniversary Aviars be Pro, Champion, DX?

prairie_dawg · Jul 22 2004, 01:50 PM

Dave,

Will they be small bead, big bead or no bead?

Thanks for your answers to all of our inane and limitless questions.

Ray

davei · Jul 22 2004, 01:51 PM

robj, Champion.

boru · Jul 22 2004, 03:06 PM

Dave, just wanted to say great work on the new Pro plastic. I bought a 166g Pro Teebird on a whim, and almost instantly took a liking to it. The plastic is just so . . . throwable, for lack of a better word, compared to Champion. Some guy's dog did a number on my Teebird this weekend, but I'll definitely pick up some more Pro in the near future.

jaymo · Jul 22 2004, 06:38 PM

Hey dave, do you guys have a slated time on another run of Pro Orcs... I never got to try one up here in Canada... I guess too limited.
or are you just too swamped with other requests???

brianberman · Jul 22 2004, 08:41 PM

Love the CE Orcs, I love the Pro Tee-Birds, can't wait for the Pro Orcs. That's a one spicy meatball.

Jul 23 2004, 12:35 AM

i have 3 pro orcs in my possession and i don't care what anybody says that is one sweet disc. i ate lasagna tonight and had a little grease on my hand. i picked that bad boy up and chucked it to my friend like it was nothing... i love it!!! the classic rocs and cobras are just as sweet!!

Jul 23 2004, 01:25 AM

Dave,

A few weeks ago you said that production on Pro TLs had completed, but they hadn't been stamped. What's the timeline for these getting to retailers/ZoneDriven/etc.? My worn-in DX Ts are getting flippy/lost.

Thanks.

Jul 23 2004, 01:26 AM

Champion anniversary Aviars. poetry in motion. (or on a wall even)

davei · Jul 23 2004, 07:32 AM

jaymo, we have been swamped, but the Pro Orc is coming up soon in the rotation.

davei · Jul 23 2004, 07:40 AM

goalie33, the TL has gotten delayed because of marketing issues that I don't agree with. Marketing doesn't want Pro Tees and Pro TLs out at the same time. The worry is confusion as has happened in the past. Our intention is to stay with the TL version once it's out. If we can release it in without undue confusion, we will.

Jul 23 2004, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Our intention is to stay with the TL version once it's out.

Say it ain't so, Dave!!!!

I love the current "T" version! My longest field and course throws to date have been with Pro Teebirds. It has the perfect combination of speed, stability, distance, control, and grippiness for my arm. If the TLs in other plastics are any guide, the Pro TL is going to be too understable for me.

SAVE THE Ts!!!!

Jul 20 2004, 11:47 AM	#2041
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Zipper Viking PT, sorry, no idea. I believe those were the first run. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 20 2004, 11:51 AM	#2042
testap Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Josephine, Tx Posts: 588	Re: Zipper Viking ok well thx

Jul 20 2004, 12:08 PM	#2043
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Zipper Viking Hey Dave...I really enjoyed your interview in the new DGWN and thanks for hitting the boards to answer eveyones questions. What do you have planned for player packages at Worlds? Thanks __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Jul 20 2004, 12:43 PM	#2044
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Zipper Viking chase, I don't know at this time. I think Innova East is handling that for us. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 20 2004, 02:14 PM	#2045
mikeP Community Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,506	Re: Zipper Viking Dave, If you don't mind sharing, what's going on in your head right now with respect to new Innovational disc designs? Is the Orc the pinnacle of speed/glide, or do you have some other ideas to try out still? Is distance still the focus, or have you been thinking more of control? Thanks.

Jul 20 2004, 04:10 PM	#2046
Rodney Gilmore Community Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Burlington NC Posts: 388	Re: Zipper Viking I've got a question for you Dave. I have heard that innova has run out of the plastic used in the KC rocs. Is this just a rumor? If not, then what can we expect the next rocs to be like?

Jul 21 2004, 12:27 AM	#2048
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D I'm curious about that too. I saw some Sharks that were 125g the other day at a junior course challenge involving E.D.G.E. and almost bought one -- would that be a bit too heavy for MTA? I've also heard the MTA Rocs are nicknamed "pebbles." Is there any trick to finding the super light Classic Rocs? a friend loaned me his 'pebble' -- but I'd love to try a premi Classic.

Jul 21 2004, 12:36 PM	#2049
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Zipper Viking discspeed, the latest design was for a midrange, the Bulldog, however testing has revealed a possible flaw I am working on now. The Orc is not the pinnacle of distance forever. Probably next year, we will have a topper. I am always thinking of control. Sometimes it's shortrange, and sometimes long. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 21 2004, 12:37 PM	#2050
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Zipper Viking Rodney, just a rumour. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 21 2004, 12:39 PM	#2051
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Light Shark Hi Lowe, probably very few around. You would have to get help from Sam out here or maybe Harold on the East coast. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 21 2004, 12:42 PM	#2052
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Question for Dave D robj, the light 125gm Sharks are EDGE Sharks. The original Roc was referred to as the Pebble, the little Roc. We don't make those any more at the low weight. We could if we had a significant outlet (store or such). The Classic run is coming soon. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 21 2004, 02:13 PM	#2053
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Would a 125g EDGE Shark work well for MTA or is it too heavy?

Jul 21 2004, 03:35 PM	#2054
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Question for Dave D robj, too heavy unless there is a lot of wind and you throw back door. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 22 2004, 05:02 AM	#2055
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, Any chance for additional models of full colour discs. I would like to see for instance a Rhyno? Any news on XD in Pro plastic?

Jul 22 2004, 07:42 AM	#2056
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Question for Dave D Gelrod, we have two color processes. "Full color" is done on the East Coast, and INNcolor is done on the west coast. INNcolor is limited by technology at this point. Full color is only limited to DX at present. The XD is coming up in the rotation next. We will run at least a limited amount of Pro XDs. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 22 2004, 09:42 AM	#2057
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Re: Question for Dave D Dave...any word on those aniversary Avairs? __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Jul 22 2004, 11:44 AM	#2058
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Question for Dave D Chase, still haven't seen the art yet. We are running the discs now. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 22 2004, 11:51 AM	#2059
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Will the anniversary Aviars be Pro, Champion, DX?

Jul 22 2004, 01:50 PM	#2060
prairie_dawg PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,033	Aniversary Aviar Question for Dave D Dave, Will they be small bead, big bead or no bead? Thanks for your answers to all of our inane and limitless questions. Ray __________________ Discing for a Cure events, Host one in your area! 2nd event McKinney, TX November 15th, 2009 Participating in the 2009 Charity Endowment Program

Jul 22 2004, 01:51 PM	#2061
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Question for Dave D robj, Champion. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 22 2004, 03:06 PM	#2062
boru Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Far from Honolulu Posts: 340	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, just wanted to say great work on the new Pro plastic. I bought a 166g Pro Teebird on a whim, and almost instantly took a liking to it. The plastic is just so . . . throwable, for lack of a better word, compared to Champion. Some guy's dog did a number on my Teebird this weekend, but I'll definitely pick up some more Pro in the near future. __________________ Worth the trip.

Jul 22 2004, 06:38 PM	#2063
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D Hey dave, do you guys have a slated time on another run of Pro Orcs... I never got to try one up here in Canada... I guess too limited. or are you just too swamped with other requests??? __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

Jul 22 2004, 08:41 PM	#2064
brianberman Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Thrill, NC Posts: 504	Re: Question for Dave D Love the CE Orcs, I love the Pro Tee-Birds, can't wait for the Pro Orcs. That's a one spicy meatball. __________________ I have a tip that can take 5 strokes off anyone's golf game. It's called an eraser. Arnold Palmer

Jul 23 2004, 12:35 AM	#2065
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D i have 3 pro orcs in my possession and i don't care what anybody says that is one sweet disc. i ate lasagna tonight and had a little grease on my hand. i picked that bad boy up and chucked it to my friend like it was nothing... i love it!!! the classic rocs and cobras are just as sweet!!

Jul 23 2004, 01:25 AM	#2066
Guest Posts: n/a	Question for Dave D Dave, A few weeks ago you said that production on Pro TLs had completed, but they hadn't been stamped. What's the timeline for these getting to retailers/ZoneDriven/etc.? My worn-in DX Ts are getting flippy/lost. Thanks.

Jul 23 2004, 01:26 AM	#2067
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Champion anniversary Aviars. poetry in motion. (or on a wall even)

Jul 23 2004, 07:32 AM	#2068
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Question for Dave D jaymo, we have been swamped, but the Pro Orc is coming up soon in the rotation. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Jul 23 2004, 07:40 AM	#2069
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,638	Re: Question for Dave D goalie33, the TL has gotten delayed because of marketing issues that I don't agree with. Marketing doesn't want Pro Tees and Pro TLs out at the same time. The worry is confusion as has happened in the past. Our intention is to stay with the TL version once it's out. If we can release it in without undue confusion, we will. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

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