Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 59

davei · May 11 2004, 12:27 PM

Pro Orcs have been delayed again, and I am not sure when they will come out, but it's gotta be by June.......I hope. sorry

May 12 2004, 05:16 PM

alright Dave, I gotta know about the 6th run of CE Valks mentioned in the definitive Ce Valk thread, don't tease us, are these true CE? I assume these will be fundraisers, correct? And when will we be able to get some so I can buy 100 of them

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williethekid · May 12 2004, 05:47 PM

Dave I saw posted that there will b a run of pro classic rocs, birdies, and sharks!!!! What happened with the valks, will they be out soon? Also when will the TLS be coming out? Thanks

quickdisc · May 12 2004, 05:50 PM

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Pro Orcs have been delayed again, and I am not sure when they will come out, but it's gotta be by June.......I hope. sorry

Wouldn't mind a Red Candy or CE Orc

That would be insane !!!!

Karma Police · May 12 2004, 10:07 PM

Oh........ I would haved to agree.

jaymo · May 13 2004, 12:03 AM

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Oh........ I would haved to agree.

second...

motion passed?

dannyreeves · May 13 2004, 12:04 AM

Geez, how many different plastics do you need for a roller disc?

magilla · May 13 2004, 12:15 AM

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Pro Orcs have been delayed again, and I am not sure when they will come out, but it's gotta be by June.......I hope. sorry

Hey Dave, what is the difference in the plastics on ORCS. Ive seen some recently that are a "Solid" Blue ...not clear or Pearl..They feel slightly different and are "nicely domed"

May 13 2004, 11:40 AM

Quote:

alright Dave, I gotta know about the 6th run of CE Valks mentioned in the definitive Ce Valk thread, don't tease us, are these true CE? I assume these will be fundraisers, correct? And when will we be able to get some so I can buy 100 of them

...

Say it aint so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

davei · May 13 2004, 07:47 PM

adam, the plastic for the second run on has been the same with minor variations. Each run of Valks is a new run of candy. There was however, a run of less stable Valks about two runs ago, and the original run, which was the only run out of the original straigh material that turned out to be too stiff. We may go back to straight material in the heavier weights as that same material is now a little softer from the manufacturer. Lower weights will still be softer as they are a blend of softer and lower weight material.

davei · May 13 2004, 07:50 PM

willie, the Pro Valks were test run, but havent been done yet. Not sure what the schedule is right now. I have wanted to run The TLS for a while now, not sure what is holding up the order from Millenium.

davei · May 13 2004, 07:52 PM

Mike, that was a color thing that the molders did without permission one night. They are supposed to use clear colors and decided to use opaque which we use for Pro. Night crew gets bored sometimes.

May 14 2004, 01:01 PM

Can I get some info on the 'TLS' ... I am big fan of the QJLS

dannyreeves · May 14 2004, 01:02 PM

From what I have heard, it is planned to be a TL in the Millenium plastic.

May 14 2004, 01:16 PM

Hmmm, sounds interesting.

magilla · May 18 2004, 12:53 PM

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Mike, that was a color thing that the molders did without permission one night. They are supposed to use clear colors and decided to use opaque which we use for Pro. Night crew gets bored sometimes.

Oh Yea...well they sure do fly "Real Nice"...

Gave me a couple of "DownHill" putts on Hole 25 this past weekend

Ill have to keep those for myself

davei · May 18 2004, 06:07 PM

Mike, I got a chance to test some of the opaque blue last weekend and they do fly very well. Might just be a freak thing or one of the many mysteries of injection molding. If you're coming to Golden State, I suggest you bring it. You can definitley use it on several holes.

May 18 2004, 08:49 PM

Dave,

I've recently started throwing DX Teebirds along with my distance discs (Pro Orcs, Starfires, CE Valks), and have been pleasantly surprised to discover that I'm consistently throwing them as far or farther than my Pro Orcs! [Note to self: stock up on DX Teebirds!]

With that in mind, I'm wondering whether you're planning to run the Orc in DX, or if you have tested or have plans to test a DX Orc?

jaymo · May 18 2004, 09:09 PM

You have pro Orcs, I want some pro orcs...

dannyreeves · May 18 2004, 09:18 PM

Dave, was there a change in the KC Rocs? I just got some and they have more dome, a little stiffer plastic, and no dimple. Was this intentional?

mf100forever · May 19 2004, 03:13 AM

Hi Dave,
Pro Birdie, Classic Roc and Shark is coming out soon I´ve read.
What´s plan for the next months, what will be the next releases? Pro Valks and Orcs?
Will there be a second run of the Super Roc, will it remain a fundraiser?

jaymo · May 19 2004, 04:09 AM

yeah what about those Pro Orcs...

I should jsut make this question my signature...

xterramatt · May 19 2004, 07:23 AM

we have pro sharks and birdies on the east coast now.

I really want to throw em. the pro birdie really feels great. And the Shark is begging to be thrown. Sharks are in colors, birdies are not. Classic Rocs should be coming in a week or 2.

davei · May 19 2004, 07:48 AM

felix, we have no plans for DX Orcs right now, but we are planning to continue the run of Pro Orcs when we have time.

davei · May 19 2004, 07:52 AM

Kid, the stiffer was intentional, the dimple is an irregular feature of molding. It comes and goes with that plastic. The domeyness is an artifact of the particular plastic batch and a couple of other factors. Personally, I think the sharper nosed Cucamongas need a little dome, but YMMV. You may have more than a little dome. That was not intended.

davei · May 19 2004, 07:56 AM

mf100, the Pro Roc will continue to be a fundraiser for the next worlds after Iowa in PA. The next release after the Classic Roc, will probably be the Orc.

May 19 2004, 08:49 AM

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felix, we have no plans for DX Orcs right now, but we are planning to continue the run of Pro Orcs when we have time.

I wasn't really expecting DX Orcs, I guess I'm just curious whether or not an Orc in DX plastic would yield more distance than in Champion or Pro.

As I recall, Chris Standstrom and Ken Jarvis both were throwing DX when they set the distance record (Valkyrie and Teebird, I think). Granted, the usual disclaimers about wind, thermals, altitude, etc., it is, perhaps, instructive that two (and perhaps more) of the top distance throwers in the world throw DX.

mf100forever · May 19 2004, 09:19 AM

We have to wait some weeks until they arrive here in Europe.

davei · May 19 2004, 09:21 AM

Felix, the main reason they were throwing DX was grip. DX has a much more consistent and tacky grip than Candy. Your TeeBirds may be going farther because they suit your throwing style or grip. It may not be an inherent difference between candy and dx. The DX is sometimes more high speed stable than candy, (Beast), and may have a slightly higher or lower dome at times. Tough to make predictions on how it is going to work from model to model.

vwkeepontruckin · May 19 2004, 09:58 AM

Quote:

we have pro sharks and birdies on the east coast now.

I really want to throw em. the pro birdie really feels great. And the Shark is begging to be thrown. Sharks are in colors, birdies are not. Classic Rocs should be coming in a week or 2.

Are you guys refering to the deep non-beveled Birdie featuring the thumb track thingy? In ProPlastic? I would have never guessed there was a demand for it! That was my first putter! Anyways, my dad absolutly hates Aviars/Wizards and almost every putter you could name. He putted with a ZPuttr just b/c it was flydyed. Then I gave him my old birdie, and hes been banging them home since! Hope I can get him a ProLine version for fathers day!!

May 11 2004, 12:27 PM	#1741
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D Pro Orcs have been delayed again, and I am not sure when they will come out, but it's gotta be by June.......I hope. sorry __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 12 2004, 05:16 PM	#1742
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D alright Dave, I gotta know about the 6th run of CE Valks mentioned in the definitive Ce Valk thread, don't tease us, are these true CE? I assume these will be fundraisers, correct? And when will we be able to get some so I can buy 100 of them ...

May 12 2004, 05:47 PM	#1743
williethekid Community Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Weston, CT Posts: 508	Re: Question for Dave D Dave I saw posted that there will b a run of pro classic rocs, birdies, and sharks!!!! What happened with the valks, will they be out soon? Also when will the TLS be coming out? Thanks

May 12 2004, 10:07 PM	#1745
Karma Police PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisco Posts: 644	Re: Question for Dave D Oh........ I would haved to agree.

May 13 2004, 12:04 AM	#1747
dannyreeves Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,313	Re: Question for Dave D Geez, how many different plastics do you need for a roller disc?

May 13 2004, 07:47 PM	#1750
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D adam, the plastic for the second run on has been the same with minor variations. Each run of Valks is a new run of candy. There was however, a run of less stable Valks about two runs ago, and the original run, which was the only run out of the original straigh material that turned out to be too stiff. We may go back to straight material in the heavier weights as that same material is now a little softer from the manufacturer. Lower weights will still be softer as they are a blend of softer and lower weight material. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 13 2004, 07:50 PM	#1751
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D willie, the Pro Valks were test run, but havent been done yet. Not sure what the schedule is right now. I have wanted to run The TLS for a while now, not sure what is holding up the order from Millenium. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 13 2004, 07:52 PM	#1752
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D Mike, that was a color thing that the molders did without permission one night. They are supposed to use clear colors and decided to use opaque which we use for Pro. Night crew gets bored sometimes. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 14 2004, 01:01 PM	#1753
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Can I get some info on the 'TLS' ... I am big fan of the QJLS

May 14 2004, 01:02 PM	#1754
dannyreeves Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,313	Re: Question for Dave D From what I have heard, it is planned to be a TL in the Millenium plastic.

May 14 2004, 01:16 PM	#1755
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Hmmm, sounds interesting.

May 18 2004, 06:07 PM	#1757
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D Mike, I got a chance to test some of the opaque blue last weekend and they do fly very well. Might just be a freak thing or one of the many mysteries of injection molding. If you're coming to Golden State, I suggest you bring it. You can definitley use it on several holes. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 18 2004, 08:49 PM	#1758
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, I've recently started throwing DX Teebirds along with my distance discs (Pro Orcs, Starfires, CE Valks), and have been pleasantly surprised to discover that I'm consistently throwing them as far or farther than my Pro Orcs! [Note to self: stock up on DX Teebirds!] With that in mind, I'm wondering whether you're planning to run the Orc in DX, or if you have tested or have plans to test a DX Orc?

May 18 2004, 09:09 PM	#1759
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D You have pro Orcs, I want some pro orcs... __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

May 18 2004, 09:18 PM	#1760
dannyreeves Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,313	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, was there a change in the KC Rocs? I just got some and they have more dome, a little stiffer plastic, and no dimple. Was this intentional?

May 19 2004, 03:13 AM	#1761
mf100forever PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lulea Sweden Posts: 752	Re: Question for Dave D Hi Dave, Pro Birdie, Classic Roc and Shark is coming out soon I´ve read. What´s plan for the next months, what will be the next releases? Pro Valks and Orcs? Will there be a second run of the Super Roc, will it remain a fundraiser? __________________ (Disc)-gracefully yours, MF100forever # 3418 http://www.discgolfsweden.se/english/index.aspx

May 19 2004, 04:09 AM	#1762
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D yeah what about those Pro Orcs... I should jsut make this question my signature... __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

May 19 2004, 07:23 AM	#1763
xterramatt PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USDGC Country Posts: 3,096	Re: Question for Dave D we have pro sharks and birdies on the east coast now. I really want to throw em. the pro birdie really feels great. And the Shark is begging to be thrown. Sharks are in colors, birdies are not. Classic Rocs should be coming in a week or 2. __________________ feeling so frustrated even antiquated 'cause you can't update me if i'm overrated

May 19 2004, 07:48 AM	#1764
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D felix, we have no plans for DX Orcs right now, but we are planning to continue the run of Pro Orcs when we have time. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 19 2004, 07:52 AM	#1765
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D Kid, the stiffer was intentional, the dimple is an irregular feature of molding. It comes and goes with that plastic. The domeyness is an artifact of the particular plastic batch and a couple of other factors. Personally, I think the sharper nosed Cucamongas need a little dome, but YMMV. You may have more than a little dome. That was not intended. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 19 2004, 07:56 AM	#1766
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D mf100, the Pro Roc will continue to be a fundraiser for the next worlds after Iowa in PA. The next release after the Classic Roc, will probably be the Orc. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

May 19 2004, 09:19 AM	#1768
mf100forever PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lulea Sweden Posts: 752	Re: Question for Dave D We have to wait some weeks until they arrive here in Europe. __________________ (Disc)-gracefully yours, MF100forever # 3418 http://www.discgolfsweden.se/english/index.aspx

May 19 2004, 09:21 AM	#1769
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,637	Re: Question for Dave D Felix, the main reason they were throwing DX was grip. DX has a much more consistent and tacky grip than Candy. Your TeeBirds may be going farther because they suit your throwing style or grip. It may not be an inherent difference between candy and dx. The DX is sometimes more high speed stable than candy, (Beast), and may have a slightly higher or lower dome at times. Tough to make predictions on how it is going to work from model to model. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

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