Old Mar 27 2004, 11:34 PM   #1381
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Yep! It shows their intelligence.
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Old Mar 28 2004, 12:48 AM   #1382
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If I had a nickel for every time I had to correct someone one what TL means, I would have a sh*t load of nickels!!!!
isnt it a teebird with a leopard bottem
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Old Mar 28 2004, 11:15 AM   #1383
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Please, please be joking.
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Old Mar 28 2004, 11:25 AM   #1384
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Old Mar 28 2004, 05:35 PM   #1385
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yes i was
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Old Mar 28 2004, 07:27 PM   #1386
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discspeed, we are trying to differentiate it from the Viking. Vk could have meant either, VL would only pertain to Valk
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Old Mar 28 2004, 07:29 PM   #1387
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oops, sorry, it was already answered
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Old Mar 28 2004, 07:41 PM   #1388
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i read in another thread it was vl for valk less stable(Not leopard bottom) is that true or is the 5 time valks in production now the same as before or are they less stable with the vl on bottom. I seen 5 time valks with vl and some with vk on bottom my viking is marked vg. maybe this is a reason why molds should have name in them like discraft hmmmmmm
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Old Mar 28 2004, 11:35 PM   #1389
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thanx for the future se orc dave--can't wait. any more info on how the se TL will be released?
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Old Mar 28 2004, 11:50 PM   #1390
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OK, going to try again.

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Why are the Gremlins not going to be run in CE plastic? Any thought to a Pro Line Gremlin? I really like the DX Gremlin when it's new, but unlike the Roc when I beat it up it really becomes useless.......for me.


Yes I know the first run's were called Pro Line Gremlins. Sorry I was not more clear. Some like to take things very literal around here.

Had a chance to throw the Pro Line Aviar this weekend and it seems to be a nice approach and short driver for me rather than a putter. Anyone else have a chance to put it though the paces? Any thoughts?
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Old Mar 29 2004, 12:47 AM   #1391
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I saw disc today with WX on the bottom, and no name on the top (other than Innova). What kind of disc is it?
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Old Mar 29 2004, 12:50 AM   #1392
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Whippet X
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Old Mar 29 2004, 06:22 AM   #1393
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And more than likely, it was a Champion Whippit....



Why is there an X with some of the discs, like the whippit-x or JK Aviar-x?
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Old Mar 29 2004, 06:59 AM   #1394
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steven, no update on release of TLS yet, scoob, If we run the Gremlin, it will be in Pro rather than dx or Champion. We have limited capacity to run discs. We have to choose one version.
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Old Mar 29 2004, 07:29 AM   #1395
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Will, the "x" denotes the same thing as it does in the CE FX: extra overstability. If I don't forget between now and then, I'll bring a couple of 10x Whippets and WXes to the Tarheel so you can compare them.
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Old Mar 29 2004, 09:28 AM   #1396
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WX is written on Champion plastic, making it a Champion Whippet. Sure has a big rim. Thanks for the info!
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Old Mar 29 2004, 10:13 AM   #1397
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Well if you do forget, Felix, it won't bother me. I don't throw whippits that much unless I need to get out of a trouble area or for a short forearm shot.
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Old Mar 29 2004, 11:39 AM   #1398
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Dave, you make me sad. My Pro Line Gremlins are the longest midrange in my bag, not to mention the only disc in my bag with multiple aces. I have been looking forward to the second run ever since your first mention of it. But alas, the Gremlin will be no more in the sweet candy state it once was. Insert expletive here.
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Are you saying that you may go to the Gremlin as Pro Line only? No more DX?
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Old Mar 29 2004, 02:51 PM   #1400
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Love the dx Gremlin...Love the Pro Line Gremlin too.
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Old Mar 29 2004, 03:34 PM   #1401
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Dave,

Will there be any proline XD in the nearast future? Or maybe Champion XD?
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Old Mar 29 2004, 05:21 PM   #1402
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scoob, yes, but no final decision has been made.
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Old Mar 30 2004, 03:11 PM   #1403
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How much longer until the SE orc comes out, are they molded yet? I can't wait to try one of those suckers out... I love the SE roc btw.

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Old Mar 31 2004, 10:18 AM   #1404
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I know this is a bit of a different question but I got to thinking about it yesterday. Have you guys ever considered approaching ball golf retail chains (Golfsmith, Nevada Bobs, Edwin Watts, etc..) about carrying your products?
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Old Mar 31 2004, 12:57 PM   #1405
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Doug's question reminded me of something...

Dave, I was in a couple of Oshman's here in Houston and noticed that they are selling Champion TLs, stamped like regular Champ plastic. Are these actually TLs? I thought Champ TLs were CFRs?
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Old Mar 31 2004, 01:11 PM   #1406
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hmmm did a couple of TL's escape from the plant. those darn suckers fly off everytime the doors open lol if they are supposed to be cfr innova needs a more secure cage for these birds. lol did you buy any i would have bought at least 1. did they have the regular champion stamp.


Hey dave we were discussing a while back on why you guys don't stamp the cool pictures on the champ discs and was wondering if our comments got you guys at innova thinking about that or no. I really like the artwork of the bird on the super roc you guys should revamp the artwork of dx discs and use the newer versions on champ discs those discs especially in those bright colors would look cool with some new modern artwork on them. I know their were a couple of guys who were wanting these stamps as well. speak up guys let's get that rant going again lol
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Old Mar 31 2004, 01:29 PM   #1407
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Another vote for putting the artwork on Pro / Champion disc's.
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Old Mar 31 2004, 01:57 PM   #1408
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Add another vote to putting original artwork that is done on dx plastic on Champion/Pro Line plastic. If anything run a limited amount, make them more of a collectors item.
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Another vote for the artwork idea, we talked about this before, I hope action'll be done this time around.

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Old Mar 31 2004, 02:40 PM   #1410
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My vote is for some minimal artwork on the Champion plastic.
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