Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 44

Mar 19 2004, 09:11 PM

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A test run of small beads were run, and I ave one of them. they were exactly that, a test run, and are not going to be the Pro Aviar.

Thanks, Matt. I was going to buy up every one I could lay my hands on if the Pro was going to be SB going forward because I've been consistently nailing putts with mine that I had to treat as upshots with my 10xes.

Dave, any thoughts on how the Pro Aviar compares to other Big Bead Aviars? It seems to me to be slightly faster and slightly more low speed overstable and to have more carry and glide than the other BB models, and it seems to take less effort to throw and to be easier to control.

davei · Mar 20 2004, 10:02 AM

fore, yes both were run, but they were mixed up by the hotstampers or someone not listening. The small bead are Omega APs. The big bead are the Pro Aviars. The Omegas are straighter flying at low speeds. The Pros are slightly overstable.

davei · Mar 20 2004, 10:05 AM

rh, the jls and tl are similar, but the tls is faster and takes a headwind better. The jls is a better fairway driver and finesse disc/roller and the tls is a better off the tee driver that can take more torque.

Dick · Mar 20 2004, 12:45 PM

true dave. i guess i do find the tl is slightly more stable at high speed.

drdyedcom · Mar 20 2004, 01:58 PM

Hey Dave, are there any future plans for running beadless Aviars any time soon??? I love em, and they are getting harder to find unthrown at any reasonable price. Just curious, thanks!!

Dick · Mar 20 2004, 05:08 PM

aren't the glow aviars beadless?

davei · Mar 20 2004, 06:55 PM

drdre, if you are talking about the small bead we run several all the time. Regular DX putter and classic. Omega SS and AP. True beadless have not been run in years and there are no plants to remake it. Sorry

davei · Mar 20 2004, 06:57 PM

oops sorry drdye, I typoed and made you a rapper or something

drdyedcom · Mar 20 2004, 09:48 PM

Drdre, hehe

Yeah I was refering to the beadless, not the small bead. To bad, sure love the beadless!!! What if I got a petition and a bunch of people signed it, then would you guys(Innova) consider it??? High hopes probably.

Mar 20 2004, 10:33 PM

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robj, orange is rare and we have already made the next run and it is all white.

Dave, the orange JK Aviar-x I found through a west coast vendor is definitely the softer second run of 4 times (not the first run that were mistakenly made stiff), so do you mean you are now making a third run of 4 times, or do you mean a new run of 5 times?

davei · Mar 20 2004, 11:00 PM

Rob, the current run was done last year and is soft. I imagine they have been stamped with 5 time, but I don't know.

Mar 20 2004, 11:40 PM

Thanks Dave, I have already seen the 5 time JK Valkyries, and look forward to seeing the soft 5 time JK Aviar-x. I'm not really a collector, but the Aviar-x is my favorite disc and I want to save a mint one from each version; I'll be pulling for Juliana to earn a six-time and a seven time version in the future

With that in mind, I am glad to hear she recently married someone who shares her love for disc golf.

widiscgolf · Mar 22 2004, 08:16 PM

Dave,

Hi there. I forgot but what will the next disc be coming out in the new First Run Pro SE/KC plastic? & When is that going to be? Thanks in advance!! The Aviars/Teebirds are sweet Dave! 2 Thumbs up!

davei · Mar 23 2004, 07:06 AM

discgolf, I was planning on running Beasts and Valks, but my partners might have other plans. In the air right now.

girlie · Mar 23 2004, 07:10 AM

Thank You!

I love my new SE Teebird, Dave

! The plastic feels great and grippy, the disc carrys well with the dome and is still stable.

Great work on a great disc... looking forward to whatever is coming next.

Mar 23 2004, 12:50 PM

Hey Dave, i'm sorry if this has been asked before but I was wondering if this new SE plastic will be run on a regular basis? That is, next year will Pro Aviars and Pro Teebirds be run again and the year after that and so on and so on, or is this just a one run/year type thing, or will they be run for a certain time until the plastic runs out?

Kenja · Mar 23 2004, 01:32 PM

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A test run of small beads were run, and I ave one of them. they were exactly that, a test run, and are not going to be the Pro Aviar.

hmmm I seem to have a test run (small bead) SE/Pro Aviar then... I was wondering why it looked and flew exactly like my Champion SB Aviar (poorly

) For putts, its grippy and straight shooting, but not what I was expecting -- I already have an Omega SS for < 30 ft [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

discchucker · Mar 23 2004, 03:14 PM

Hey Dave...just wondering if we could possibly see a wide rimmed Teebird style of a disc from Innova sometime in the future? I would like to see a beast/orc like rim with a dome like a teebird!? Any thoughts on something like this?

xterramatt · Mar 23 2004, 03:24 PM

umm... I think that IS the Orc... I think the Orc is the perfect upgrade to the Teebird. Maybe not as domy, but the same flight characteristics in my book. YRMV.

davei · Mar 23 2004, 03:59 PM

Rocco, we are going to try to keep all the Pro (SE) discs in stock as much as we can. We are going to limit the models we run at first to be able to do this. Teebirds and Aviars are keepers.

davei · Mar 23 2004, 04:03 PM

discchucker, stay tuned. All of the discs seem to have more dome and just as much stability.

flynvegas · Mar 23 2004, 04:05 PM

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discgolf, I was planning on running Beasts and Valks, but my partners might have other plans. In the air right now.

A SE Beast would be great, don't let them talk you out of that one. Thx

jaymo · Mar 23 2004, 06:11 PM

no way man, get that Orc into the SE plastic, that'd be schweet!!

thanks in advance dave....

Plankeye · Mar 23 2004, 07:47 PM

matt....

maybe the heavier orcs are domier, but my lightweight orc is flat.

michael · Mar 23 2004, 09:37 PM

Hi Dave, What are the recommended discs for an advanced player who has not played since the eagle was the best disc on the market. My control is good and dont mind bring the disc from either direction (reverse or hyzer). My preference is higher flight paths and favorite discs are the aviar and the roc.

Mar 23 2004, 10:47 PM

Dave.

I have a glo Roc with a yellow cirlce stamp on it, just wondering about how old it is, just started playing this year so I am not familiar with older discs!

Mar 24 2004, 12:51 AM

Yessss Dave, good idea. Thank You!!!!

Mar 24 2004, 02:34 AM

Dave

Why are the Gremlins not going to be run in CE plastic?

Any thought to a Pro Line Gremlin?

Great job with the Pro Line Teebird and the Super Roc! Gripolicious!!! Can't wait to see the TL or whatever it's going to be called. Keep up the great work and thanks for all the inside info.

Plankeye · Mar 24 2004, 05:40 AM

There is a line of Pro Gremlins out. It is made out of old plastic. If you get lucky you can find them at some stores or on ebay.

eddie_ogburn · Mar 24 2004, 08:34 AM

I believe he is talking about the new SE plastic Plankeye. LOL

Mar 20 2004, 10:02 AM	#1292
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D fore, yes both were run, but they were mixed up by the hotstampers or someone not listening. The small bead are Omega APs. The big bead are the Pro Aviars. The Omegas are straighter flying at low speeds. The Pros are slightly overstable. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 20 2004, 10:05 AM	#1293
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D rh, the jls and tl are similar, but the tls is faster and takes a headwind better. The jls is a better fairway driver and finesse disc/roller and the tls is a better off the tee driver that can take more torque. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 20 2004, 12:45 PM	#1294
Dick PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Out hunting nomads... Posts: 1,806	Re: Question for Dave D true dave. i guess i do find the tl is slightly more stable at high speed.

Mar 20 2004, 01:58 PM	#1295
drdyedcom Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 207	Re: Question for Dave D Hey Dave, are there any future plans for running beadless Aviars any time soon??? I love em, and they are getting harder to find unthrown at any reasonable price. Just curious, thanks!! __________________ www.DRDYED.COM

Mar 20 2004, 05:08 PM	#1296
Dick PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Out hunting nomads... Posts: 1,806	Re: Question for Dave D aren't the glow aviars beadless?

Mar 20 2004, 06:55 PM	#1297
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D drdre, if you are talking about the small bead we run several all the time. Regular DX putter and classic. Omega SS and AP. True beadless have not been run in years and there are no plants to remake it. Sorry __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 20 2004, 06:57 PM	#1298
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D oops sorry drdye, I typoed and made you a rapper or something __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 20 2004, 09:48 PM	#1299
drdyedcom Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 207	Re: Question for Dave D Drdre, hehe Yeah I was refering to the beadless, not the small bead. To bad, sure love the beadless!!! What if I got a petition and a bunch of people signed it, then would you guys(Innova) consider it??? High hopes probably. __________________ www.DRDYED.COM

Mar 20 2004, 11:00 PM	#1301
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Rob, the current run was done last year and is soft. I imagine they have been stamped with 5 time, but I don't know. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 20 2004, 11:40 PM	#1302
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Thanks Dave, I have already seen the 5 time JK Valkyries, and look forward to seeing the soft 5 time JK Aviar-x. I'm not really a collector, but the Aviar-x is my favorite disc and I want to save a mint one from each version; I'll be pulling for Juliana to earn a six-time and a seven time version in the future With that in mind, I am glad to hear she recently married someone who shares her love for disc golf.

Mar 22 2004, 08:16 PM	#1303
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, Hi there. I forgot but what will the next disc be coming out in the new First Run Pro SE/KC plastic? & When is that going to be? Thanks in advance!! The Aviars/Teebirds are sweet Dave! 2 Thumbs up! __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Mar 23 2004, 07:06 AM	#1304
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D discgolf, I was planning on running Beasts and Valks, but my partners might have other plans. In the air right now. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 23 2004, 07:10 AM	#1305
girlie Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 692	Re: Question for Dave D Thank You! I love my new SE Teebird, Dave ! The plastic feels great and grippy, the disc carrys well with the dome and is still stable. Great work on a great disc... looking forward to whatever is coming next.

Mar 23 2004, 12:50 PM	#1306
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Hey Dave, i'm sorry if this has been asked before but I was wondering if this new SE plastic will be run on a regular basis? That is, next year will Pro Aviars and Pro Teebirds be run again and the year after that and so on and so on, or is this just a one run/year type thing, or will they be run for a certain time until the plastic runs out?

Mar 23 2004, 03:14 PM	#1308
discchucker Community Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On the course banging 50 footers Posts: 839	Re: Question for Dave D Hey Dave...just wondering if we could possibly see a wide rimmed Teebird style of a disc from Innova sometime in the future? I would like to see a beast/orc like rim with a dome like a teebird!? Any thoughts on something like this? __________________ Winning isn't everything--but wanting to win is. Gateway Disc Sports Team Gateway

Mar 23 2004, 03:24 PM	#1309
xterramatt PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USDGC Country Posts: 3,096	Re: Question for Dave D umm... I think that IS the Orc... I think the Orc is the perfect upgrade to the Teebird. Maybe not as domy, but the same flight characteristics in my book. YRMV. __________________ feeling so frustrated even antiquated 'cause you can't update me if i'm overrated

Mar 23 2004, 03:59 PM	#1310
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Rocco, we are going to try to keep all the Pro (SE) discs in stock as much as we can. We are going to limit the models we run at first to be able to do this. Teebirds and Aviars are keepers. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 23 2004, 04:03 PM	#1311
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D discchucker, stay tuned. All of the discs seem to have more dome and just as much stability. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 23 2004, 06:11 PM	#1313
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D no way man, get that Orc into the SE plastic, that'd be schweet!! thanks in advance dave.... __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

Mar 23 2004, 07:47 PM	#1314
Plankeye PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,395	Re: Question for Dave D matt.... maybe the heavier orcs are domier, but my lightweight orc is flat.

Mar 23 2004, 09:37 PM	#1315
michael Community Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6	Re: Question for Dave D Hi Dave, What are the recommended discs for an advanced player who has not played since the eagle was the best disc on the market. My control is good and dont mind bring the disc from either direction (reverse or hyzer). My preference is higher flight paths and favorite discs are the aviar and the roc.

Mar 23 2004, 10:47 PM	#1316
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Dave. I have a glo Roc with a yellow cirlce stamp on it, just wondering about how old it is, just started playing this year so I am not familiar with older discs!

Mar 24 2004, 12:51 AM	#1317
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Yessss Dave, good idea. Thank You!!!!

Mar 24 2004, 02:34 AM	#1318
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Dave Why are the Gremlins not going to be run in CE plastic? Any thought to a Pro Line Gremlin? Great job with the Pro Line Teebird and the Super Roc! Gripolicious!!! Can't wait to see the TL or whatever it's going to be called. Keep up the great work and thanks for all the inside info.

Mar 24 2004, 05:40 AM	#1319
Plankeye PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 1,395	Re: Question for Dave D There is a line of Pro Gremlins out. It is made out of old plastic. If you get lucky you can find them at some stores or on ebay.

Mar 24 2004, 08:34 AM	#1320
eddie_ogburn Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Capital City, NC Posts: 1,410	Re: Question for Dave D I believe he is talking about the new SE plastic Plankeye. LOL __________________ <font color="blue">TEAM Sun King </font> http://www.sunkingdiscs.com A lot of people play disc golf, but there are very few disc golfers...

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