Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 42

widiscgolf · Mar 14 2004, 11:15 PM

I didn't realize that. Thanks!

prairie_dawg · Mar 15 2004, 01:04 AM

Got a chance to see the first run Pro Aviar and Teebirds this weekend. That plastic seems very similar to the plastic that was used in the Tachyons. Are they similar?

Ray

davei · Mar 15 2004, 06:52 AM

In the case of this ghost stamp, I didn't know the answer, but Harold, (my partner and owner of Carolina Flying Discs) did know, as did Matt. I work out west in production and Matt and Harold work in South Carolina. Much of the decorating is done in South Carolina, especially ghost stamping, bottom side stamping, and full color processing.

widiscgolf · Mar 15 2004, 09:24 AM

Cool to know Dave. I was just curious, cause I have not seen them yet in our area. Again most be a new thing like you said.

gokayaksteven · Mar 15 2004, 02:00 PM

hey dave --i posted a few questions about 10 posts back--my main one was about pro[se] TLs--when do you expect these to hit retailers? thank you again

flynvegas · Mar 15 2004, 02:07 PM

You can buy them right now at Zonedriven. As well, you can get the SE Aviar and SE Roc.

atreau3 · Mar 15 2004, 02:09 PM

The "Pro" Teebirds now available on the Zone Driven site are "T" molds. XTerraMatt said that the "TL's" would be out in a week or two.

Erick

flynvegas · Mar 15 2004, 02:11 PM

You're right, sorry.

atreau3 · Mar 15 2004, 02:34 PM

Vegas,

BTW,

That CE Teebird T fly's sweet. TY (Ebay a while back red 174)

jaymo · Mar 15 2004, 04:23 PM

Hey dave, Matt, whomever.... did you guys change the rating of the Orc to 0/+2 b/c before it was -0.5/+2, just wanted to know if this was how innova percieved the Orc after further testing. thanks.

davei · Mar 15 2004, 04:27 PM

I don't know what it is now, but I rated it a -1/2 and still stand by that. I think we are trying not to do 1/2s so it was rounded to 0.

gnduke · Mar 15 2004, 04:30 PM

I think if you are going to try and be accurate for comparitive purposes, you will have to break into more than just 1/2's. With so many drivers so close in performance, a 1-10 scale divided on even numbers won't be sufficient.

jaymo · Mar 15 2004, 04:33 PM

yeah thanks dave, you can only do what you can do.... If they refuse to listen to you well then thats thier mistake!

eddie_ogburn · Mar 16 2004, 11:08 AM

Dave, now that you are producing the new SE "pro" aviars, will you still be making the stiff KC "pro" aviars?
Thanks!

spartan · Mar 16 2004, 11:29 AM

dave, I remember you saying the reproduction of the Pro line Gremlin might be coming back...is this still in the works?

davei · Mar 16 2004, 12:26 PM

Pro line Gremlin is not in the works at present

davei · Mar 16 2004, 12:27 PM

Eddie, the KC Pro Aviar will still be produced

widiscgolf · Mar 16 2004, 12:27 PM

Dave:

I was wondering if the FL's would be in production of the new SE plastic anytime soon?

hawkgammon · Mar 16 2004, 01:30 PM

Howdy Dave,

Speaking of disc ratings, the Innova site lists the Gator in one spot as 0/+2 and in another as +1/+2. Which is accurate in your opinion please?

Quote:

Multi-Purpose Disc - Gator
Plastics:
DX

Diameter:
21.2cm

Weights:
150 class - 175 grams
The Gator is a mid-range power control disc that delivers pin-point accuracy even in adverse wind conditions. This is the disc for high power throwers who need to control their accuracy.

Speed: 5 Glide: 2 Turn: 0 Fade: +2

Quote:

Stingray 5 5 -3 +1 DX
Cobra 5 4 -2 +2 DX, Champion
Panther 5 3 -2 +1 DX, Champion
Gremlin 5 3 0 +2 DX, Champion
Spider 5 3 0 +1 DX, Champion
Gator 5 2 +1 +2 DX
Roc 4 4 0 +2 DX, KC Pro, Champion**
Shark 4 4 0 +1 DX, Champion
Wolf 3 3 -2 0 DX

Thanks,

davei · Mar 16 2004, 03:16 PM

No plans for the SE type FL soon.

davei · Mar 16 2004, 03:17 PM

hawkgammon, the original rating was +1, +2.

dannyreeves · Mar 16 2004, 03:18 PM

Dave, I tried one of the new Teebirds this weekend and they are great! I love that plastic. I am really wanting to throw a TL in this plastic.

What is the expected release date on the Pro TL?

Thanks.

LouMoreno · Mar 16 2004, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Pro line Gremlin is not in the works at present

Dave, I hope I'm not asking the same question but is the Champion Gremlin going to be out soon?

Kenja · Mar 16 2004, 05:01 PM

Dave, I also love the new SE/Pro plastic! I can't wait to try some other molds in this plastic... [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] If you're taking votes, a Valk/Viking/Beast/Orc type would be nice.

I have a question about "flash" (the excess plastic from molding) on some of your discs (esp your older molds, like the Eagle and the Aviar.) Are there people that prefer it that way or could you guys finish off the bottom edge like the Rocs? When its broken in, does the flashing act like the fuzz on a tennis ball, breaking up the turbulent flow and reducing drag? I may be imagining things, but I swear that my CE Eagle is flying faster and longer now that the flashing is a bit frayed.

On the other hand, I couldn't use my Aviar until I sanded off the sharp bottom edge...

Mar 16 2004, 06:14 PM

Dave,

Just got myself the new PRO Teebird, man this plastic is awesome! I read somewhere Valkyries are coming next, any other discs you anticipate releasing in this plastic soon??

Wynne

davei · Mar 16 2004, 07:02 PM

Kid Roc, I am not sure of the release date, but it might be released as a Millenium disc.

davei · Mar 16 2004, 07:03 PM

Champion Gremlin is out of the plans right now.

davei · Mar 16 2004, 07:07 PM

kenja, I don't know anyone who prefers the flash, and I don't think it would do anything positive for the flight of the disc once it was fuzzy. As for the SE/Pro. First up will be Valks and Beasts. Already tested the Valk in 150 and it is good. Beast test tomorrow. Leopard will follow that.

jaymo · Mar 16 2004, 07:25 PM

The TL might be released as a millenium disc??? which one is that exactly??

thanks dave

Mar 16 2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Already tested the Valk in 150 and it is good. Beast test tomorrow. Leopard will follow that.

Sounds like a rough week dave .

Mar 14 2004, 11:15 PM	#1231
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Question for Dave D I didn't realize that. Thanks! __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Mar 15 2004, 01:04 AM	#1232
prairie_dawg PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 1,033	Question for Dave D Got a chance to see the first run Pro Aviar and Teebirds this weekend. That plastic seems very similar to the plastic that was used in the Tachyons. Are they similar? Ray __________________ Discing for a Cure events, Host one in your area! 2nd event McKinney, TX November 15th, 2009 Participating in the 2009 Charity Endowment Program

Mar 15 2004, 06:52 AM	#1233
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D In the case of this ghost stamp, I didn't know the answer, but Harold, (my partner and owner of Carolina Flying Discs) did know, as did Matt. I work out west in production and Matt and Harold work in South Carolina. Much of the decorating is done in South Carolina, especially ghost stamping, bottom side stamping, and full color processing. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 15 2004, 09:24 AM	#1234
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Question for Dave D Cool to know Dave. I was just curious, cause I have not seen them yet in our area. Again most be a new thing like you said. __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Mar 15 2004, 02:00 PM	#1235
gokayaksteven PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: telluride, co Posts: 1,489	Re: Question for Dave D hey dave --i posted a few questions about 10 posts back--my main one was about pro[se] TLs--when do you expect these to hit retailers? thank you again

Mar 15 2004, 02:07 PM	#1236
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Re: Question for Dave D You can buy them right now at Zonedriven. As well, you can get the SE Aviar and SE Roc.

Mar 15 2004, 02:09 PM	#1237
atreau3 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 1,069	Re: Question for Dave D The "Pro" Teebirds now available on the Zone Driven site are "T" molds. XTerraMatt said that the "TL's" would be out in a week or two. Erick __________________ Bucks County Disc Golf Alliance NJ Disc Devils http://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Atreau3 www.bcdga.com www.discdevils.com

Mar 15 2004, 02:11 PM	#1238
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Re: Question for Dave D You're right, sorry.

Mar 15 2004, 02:34 PM	#1239
atreau3 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 1,069	Re: Question for Dave D Vegas, BTW, That CE Teebird T fly's sweet. TY (Ebay a while back red 174) __________________ Bucks County Disc Golf Alliance NJ Disc Devils http://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Atreau3 www.bcdga.com www.discdevils.com

Mar 15 2004, 04:23 PM	#1240
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D Hey dave, Matt, whomever.... did you guys change the rating of the Orc to 0/+2 b/c before it was -0.5/+2, just wanted to know if this was how innova percieved the Orc after further testing. thanks. __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

Mar 15 2004, 04:27 PM	#1241
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D I don't know what it is now, but I rated it a -1/2 and still stand by that. I think we are trying not to do 1/2s so it was rounded to 0. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 15 2004, 04:30 PM	#1242
gnduke PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 7,181	Re: Question for Dave D I think if you are going to try and be accurate for comparitive purposes, you will have to break into more than just 1/2's. With so many drivers so close in performance, a 1-10 scale divided on even numbers won't be sufficient.

Mar 15 2004, 04:33 PM	#1243
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D yeah thanks dave, you can only do what you can do.... If they refuse to listen to you well then thats thier mistake! __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

Mar 16 2004, 11:08 AM	#1244
eddie_ogburn Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Capital City, NC Posts: 1,410	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, now that you are producing the new SE "pro" aviars, will you still be making the stiff KC "pro" aviars? Thanks! __________________ <font color="blue">TEAM Sun King </font> http://www.sunkingdiscs.com A lot of people play disc golf, but there are very few disc golfers...

Mar 16 2004, 11:29 AM	#1245
spartan Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Death Star Posts: 2,263	Re: Question for Dave D dave, I remember you saying the reproduction of the Pro line Gremlin might be coming back...is this still in the works? __________________ <font color="orange"> Mr T. crashing a course near you!!</font>

Mar 16 2004, 12:26 PM	#1246
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Pro line Gremlin is not in the works at present __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 16 2004, 12:27 PM	#1247
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Eddie, the KC Pro Aviar will still be produced __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 16 2004, 12:27 PM	#1248
widiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Bend, WI Posts: 2,144	Re: Question for Dave D Dave: I was wondering if the FL's would be in production of the new SE plastic anytime soon? __________________ www.widye.com www.ozdgc.com www.gldgc.com

Mar 16 2004, 03:16 PM	#1250
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D No plans for the SE type FL soon. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 16 2004, 03:17 PM	#1251
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D hawkgammon, the original rating was +1, +2. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 16 2004, 03:18 PM	#1252
dannyreeves Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,313	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, I tried one of the new Teebirds this weekend and they are great! I love that plastic. I am really wanting to throw a TL in this plastic. What is the expected release date on the Pro TL? Thanks.

Mar 16 2004, 05:01 PM	#1254
Kenja Community Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 94	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, I also love the new SE/Pro plastic! I can't wait to try some other molds in this plastic... [img]/msgboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] If you're taking votes, a Valk/Viking/Beast/Orc type would be nice. I have a question about "flash" (the excess plastic from molding) on some of your discs (esp your older molds, like the Eagle and the Aviar.) Are there people that prefer it that way or could you guys finish off the bottom edge like the Rocs? When its broken in, does the flashing act like the fuzz on a tennis ball, breaking up the turbulent flow and reducing drag? I may be imagining things, but I swear that my CE Eagle is flying faster and longer now that the flashing is a bit frayed. On the other hand, I couldn't use my Aviar until I sanded off the sharp bottom edge...

Mar 16 2004, 06:14 PM	#1255
Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Question for Dave D Dave, Just got myself the new PRO Teebird, man this plastic is awesome! I read somewhere Valkyries are coming next, any other discs you anticipate releasing in this plastic soon?? Wynne

Mar 16 2004, 07:02 PM	#1256
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Kid Roc, I am not sure of the release date, but it might be released as a Millenium disc. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 16 2004, 07:03 PM	#1257
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D Champion Gremlin is out of the plans right now. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 16 2004, 07:07 PM	#1258
davei PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 5,639	Re: Question for Dave D kenja, I don't know anyone who prefers the flash, and I don't think it would do anything positive for the flight of the disc once it was fuzzy. As for the SE/Pro. First up will be Valks and Beasts. Already tested the Valk in 150 and it is good. Beast test tomorrow. Leopard will follow that. __________________ Innova info By far, the most important part of any shot is what is happening in the last split second as the disc is pulling itself from your grip. Focus there. It's the key.

Mar 16 2004, 07:25 PM	#1259
jaymo Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 458	Re: Question for Dave D The TL might be released as a millenium disc??? which one is that exactly?? thanks dave __________________ You won't eat our meat, but you GLUUUUE with our feet.

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