Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

This is the regular Roc in SE type plastic. It used to be called the Super Roc. It will be called the Pro Roc in the future.

[lowe]

Hi Dave,

When you get a free moment I'd appreciate a little more info on the new Pro Aviars. If you could answer a few quick questions here on the Aviars thread I'd appreciate it. (At post #151384 - 03/07/04 11:43 PM)
-Lowe

[testap]

Is there any plans for another FX mold of firebirds?? Thanks

Try the new champion firebirds.

RED

[davei]

All Firebirds are X mold now. If you mean in another plastic like SE; maybe. We will definitely test it.

[lowe]

Dave,

Thanks for the Aviar info. You are truly the Man! You get my vote for message board MVP!!

I was going to ask if the new Firebirds were FX mold. I had been throwing an old CE F FIrebird and I beat the crap out of it so I decided to replace it with a new Champion Firebird, and the thing was so stabe it was like a completlely different disc. I still don't think I'm all that used to it.

[gnduke]

I replaced an old FX with another FX bought at the same time, same weight, same color plastic and stamp. It may take a couple of years to get this one broken in like the one I lost.

not with a little bit of TLC, go throw it really hard at a tree in your backyard for a few minutes if you wanna break in the good plastic. i've made an FX into a roller before in just a few sessions like that.

[gnduke]

FX -> roller. That's a little more than I was after.

it can be fine tuned by the amount of times you slam it into the trees/posts/wall.

then you slam it into a tree and its gone...all that work gone to waste

nah, it takes more than 1 wack to alter a used CE firebird. i'd say about every ten times your disc makes contact with a tree there'll be a noticeable change.

Yo Dave,
love the feel 1st run pro Av and pro TB, VERY Happy with product. A week ago I asked you a about glitter in discs, was wondering if you could put a number on how much you would charge or if it could be a possiblty? I'm ready to set it off for DG. Also, do ya' all make ce plastic drinking cups???

sincerally kd

[davei]

kd, I don't think there would be any extra charge for glitter if we could do it. Right now, it is very messy, so we don't do it in any production runs. Doing it proactically is the obstacle right now. No drinking cups. All we make is discs.

CE cups? thats good. dave, i think this has already been asked but, are the new aviars the small bead mold? much thanks.

Dave, I was wondering if there was a disc in production now that is similar to the old CE F Firebird. For me that was the best forehand disc ever. It would go straight forever and fade out slowly at the end. I've tried using the new Champion Firebirds which I've learned are FX mold, and they just are a little too stable for my preferences. I have to S-curve the disc to keep it from going too far right with a forehand throw, and then that keeps me from getting the same distance. If there isn't another disc out there like the old F Firebird, is there a chance that maybe these could be run again?

[davei]

Troy, FX would be the closest on the overstable side. You could try a lighter weight to compensate. The Viking would be the closest on the less stable side. That is the disc I use most for sidearm.

kd, No drinking cups. All we make is discs.

of course one could always use a disc as a drinking cup.

[flynvegas]

Dave,
When / will you be making DX or SE Viking's? Thx

[gokayaksteven]

hello dave--thanks again for answering our questions. do you know when the pro [se] TLs will hit retailers? what other discs do you have planned for this line [orc, beast]? and finally--what do you think has caused the teebirds to become more stable? i think the dx and 10x fly just about perfect [for me], and have tried 11x, champion, and cfr TL, and all seem to be slightly overstable. i heard you [or someone] remark that the new pros[se] were really stable as well. have you guys had a chance to do any testing with the new pro [se] TLs yet? hopefully that will perform similar to the 10x. thanks again

[davei]

Rob, Vikings are up next after Valks are run. Don't know about the DX right now, but I think the Pro (SE) would be good. We were planning on DX, but the new pro is so good, we might just skip the DX.

[widiscgolf]

Dave:

I have been seeing auctions on ebay saying you made some 11x teebirds with shadow stamp? Whats this shadow stamp?

Check here Dave Shadow Stamp

looks to me like somebody just removed the stamp.

I have been seeing auctions on ebay saying you made some 11x teebirds with shadow stamp? Whats this shadow stamp?

Call me cynical, but I have a "shadow stamped" dyed Champion Leopard, dyed Proline Beast, and dyed Q-Omega. Amazing what you can do with acetone.

[haroldduvall]

Dear Josh -

The stamps were removed. It's a process we are testing at Innova in South Carolina.

Take care,

Harold

[flynvegas]

Harold,
What's the point of removing the stamp, for the guys doing the dye work? Would a "Ghost Stamp" eliminate the need to go thru the process of removing the stamp later?

It's been a long day in the sun, I don't get the idea. Thx

[widiscgolf]

No my point was the seller of that disc is telling me that Innova is making the Ghost Stamp. Understand? I know how to remove the stamp myself. This seller is saying Innova is doing it. I want to know if this seller is lying or telling the truth?

Harold how do you know this? You work at Innova? I will call both Innova sites and find out myself.

Actually this was a question for Dave. So I will wait on his response.

[xterramatt]

hmmm... does Harold Duvall work at Innova....

Umm, yeah!

He's been part of Innova since the beginning.

The discs were stamped with a regular stamp, then dyed, then the stamp was removed. The dyeing process was damaging certain foils, so, instead of selling them as regular discs, we removed the stamps.

Matt

[flynvegas]

discgolf,
Settle down, my question was to Harold. I was wondering why Innova would stamp the disc then remove the stamp. That's the point I didn't understand, why would the mfr. go thru the trouble. An answer from Harold is as good as Dave.