Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 362

gippy · Feb 05 2010, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20460chase

Stiff, on both.

There is the Choice of Champions Rainbow stamped and an older Innova barstamp version, whihc has no other writing. Those are the hard ones to find. I was told one was a KC proto the other a Rancho Proto, but Ive heard lots of different stories. Dave may be able to elaborate on that...

Both are stiff and fickle. I have to store them in my house, the shop gets too cold in the winter and they will break. I found that out with a KC 8x that had a triple J-Bird stamp. It was a pretty crappy day after that.

Ouch I take all my KC Roc out of my bag for the winter and as a rule it has to be at least 45-50 degrees out and no snow before I will throw em again I broke two 11Xs in past years and it won't happen to me agian Can't imagine breaking a 8X

DSproAVIAR · Feb 05 2010, 01:43 PM

This happened to me last Sunday.

It exploded like confetti.

DSproAVIAR · Feb 05 2010, 01:45 PM

Shteev,

How do you tell the difference between a choice of champs proto 8x and a choice of champs super roc?

shteev · Feb 05 2010, 03:06 PM

i only know because of 1. the way it feels and 2. the fact that it says spec. edition super roc on the back around weight of 179 the disc i have is for sale and is in 10/10 condition if there was no ink. i might ust throw it since no one seems to have any desire to have it. there are also more details that would let one know which is which.

tkieffer · Feb 05 2010, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gippy

Ouch I take all my KC Roc out of my bag for the winter and as a rule it has to be at least 45-50 degrees out and no snow before I will throw em again I broke two 11Xs in past years and it won't happen to me agian Can't imagine breaking a 8X

Broke an 8x Roc and a 9x Aviar on the same cold Sunday winter morning about 10 years back. Started switching to different 'winter plastic' around November every year there after. Still break one on occasion in the cold (older Stingray last year, an R-Pro Boss this year), but it's plastic that can be replaced.

veganray · Feb 05 2010, 03:49 PM

I have destroyed a DX Gremlin each winter for the last 4. I expect to do so again tonight playing glow golf in whiteout conditions.

DSproAVIAR · Feb 05 2010, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shteev

i only know because of 1. the way it feels and 2. the fact that it says spec. edition super roc on the back around weight of 179 the disc i have is for sale and is in 10/10 condition if there was no ink. i might ust throw it since no one seems to have any desire to have it. there are also more details that would let one know which is which.

Alright. I just received what was advertised as a proto 8x KC, and it is slightly grippier/gummier than I expected.

Does anyone know if the proto 8x KCs are super stiff?

atreau3 · Feb 05 2010, 05:40 PM

The 17 I have are all super stiff...

atreau3 · Feb 05 2010, 05:41 PM

BTW, they feel exactly like my 8x.

rickb · Feb 05 2010, 06:24 PM

Picture of the Proto 8X KC "rainbow ROC"

rickb · Feb 05 2010, 06:26 PM

Picture of the Super ROC. This is the proto stamped Super ROC which came before the regular stamped super ROC.

rickb · Feb 05 2010, 06:30 PM

The orange "Cam Todd" CE Teebird.

rickb · Feb 05 2010, 06:32 PM

The white "Cam Todd" CE Teebird.

gippy · Feb 05 2010, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSproAVIAR

Alright. I just received what was advertised as a proto 8x KC, and it is slightly grippier/gummier than I expected.

Does anyone know if the proto 8x KCs are super stiff?

Yep mine is real stiff the way you can really tell is the bottom in the middle the 8X has 2 circles and the Super one big one I'll post pics later. That sucks.. Ebay buy?

gippy · Feb 05 2010, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atreau3

The 17 I have are all super stiff...

Wanna part with one??????????

DSproAVIAR · Feb 05 2010, 09:10 PM

Can anyone tell me if this is a proto 8x or a proto super roc?

rickb · Feb 05 2010, 09:46 PM

That's a Rainbow ROC. If it's not completely stiff if may be due to usage. I've owned a few that got softer over time. Nothing as soft as the SE Super ROC mind you, but softer than a new KC ROC.

DSproAVIAR · Feb 05 2010, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickb

That's a Rainbow ROC. If it's not completely stiff if may be due to usage. I've owned a few that got softer over time. Nothing as soft as the SE Super ROC mind you, but softer than a new KC ROC.

Thanks Rick! Much appreciated. Sorry for the thread drift.

gippy · Feb 06 2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSproAVIAR

Can anyone tell me if this is a proto 8x or a proto super roc?

Glad to see you got what you thought you where getting. Was gonna post pics for ya but you got the bottom of it. Enjoy it and don't throw it in the winter or any where you may lose it.

quickdisc · Feb 06 2010, 03:11 PM

Love these Rocs !!!!

T Wrecks · Feb 06 2010, 07:20 PM

Dave,

I just found like 300 of the 2009 CFR certificates. Can I still send those in?

Thanks in advance.

John Keith · Feb 06 2010, 11:12 PM

Ok the Katana sounds sick...and asI have moved to colorado where Im throwin at about 6000 ft I need a less stable Boss? can any one explain the Katana? Is it coming out in Champ any time? thanks. I hope it can become a long distance Boss in the altitude and maybe even a roller.

gippy · Feb 07 2010, 07:01 AM

Katana is aviable in Champ for CFR there was a bunch on discgolfvalues.com and there is some star around too. It is a a hyzer flip disc Got a chance to throw one yesterday and with min effort got it out as far as my destroyer. It was Pro didn't get a chance to throw it but one time but it flips flat and goes

shteev · Feb 07 2010, 08:47 AM

yes, a hyzer flip for a BOOMING drive but with too much on it it tends to stay headed right(understable) i put one out about 15-20 farther than my star boss. the XG boss on discgolfvalues.com is awesome. it is grippy and i bombed that farther than anything. The katana is nice though. try and get a blem b/c the new, non-blem ones are expensive to be throwing imho

PatrickSmith · Feb 07 2010, 10:16 PM

Dave, have you ever ran the eagle L in star?

davei · Feb 08 2010, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickSmith

Dave, have you ever ran the eagle L in star?

Yes. I don't remember the last time though.

cholly · Feb 09 2010, 05:15 PM

Hi Dave,

What is the most over stable driver that weighs as close to 159.9 grams but not over. (current production, OR some older disc)

Thanks
Scott

dgdave · Feb 09 2010, 06:52 PM

I'd guess a Firebird

ChrisEads · Feb 09 2010, 07:19 PM

Dave or anyone that knows
What colors were the kc pro 10x teebirds ran in?
I have seen white, orange, red and yellow.

20460chase · Feb 09 2010, 07:37 PM

...Green. Possibly also black and gold. I have seen 10x Eagles in both.

Feb 05 2010, 05:40 PM	#10838
atreau3 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 1,069	The 17 I have are all super stiff... __________________ Bucks County Disc Golf Alliance NJ Disc Devils http://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Atreau3 www.bcdga.com www.discdevils.com

Feb 05 2010, 05:41 PM	#10839
atreau3 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 1,069	BTW, they feel exactly like my 8x. __________________ Bucks County Disc Golf Alliance NJ Disc Devils http://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/Atreau3 www.bcdga.com www.discdevils.com

Feb 06 2010, 07:20 PM	#10851
T Wrecks Community Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Holland, Mi Posts: 56	CFR Certificates Dave, I just found like 300 of the 2009 CFR certificates. Can I still send those in? Thanks in advance.

Feb 06 2010, 11:12 PM	#10852
John Keith Community Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: America Posts: 747	Katana Ok the Katana sounds sick...and asI have moved to colorado where Im throwin at about 6000 ft I need a less stable Boss? can any one explain the Katana? Is it coming out in Champ any time? thanks. I hope it can become a long distance Boss in the altitude and maybe even a roller.

Feb 09 2010, 07:19 PM	#10859
ChrisEads PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 464	Dave or anyone that knows What colors were the kc pro 10x teebirds ran in? I have seen white, orange, red and yellow. __________________ WAFDA Tag #1 Pleasant View Tag #2 DAD TAG #2(Sugga Daddy)

Feb 05 2010, 01:45 PM	#10833
DSproAVIAR PDGA Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Skillet Posts: 2,506	Shteev, How do you tell the difference between a choice of champs proto 8x and a choice of champs super roc?

Feb 05 2010, 03:06 PM	#10834
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	i only know because of 1. the way it feels and 2. the fact that it says spec. edition super roc on the back around weight of 179 the disc i have is for sale and is in 10/10 condition if there was no ink. i might ust throw it since no one seems to have any desire to have it. there are also more details that would let one know which is which.

Feb 05 2010, 03:49 PM	#10836
veganray Community Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: The defense table Posts: 2,177	I have destroyed a DX Gremlin each winter for the last 4. I expect to do so again tonight playing glow golf in whiteout conditions.

Feb 05 2010, 09:46 PM	#10847
rickb PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NC Posts: 735	That's a Rainbow ROC. If it's not completely stiff if may be due to usage. I've owned a few that got softer over time. Nothing as soft as the SE Super ROC mind you, but softer than a new KC ROC.

Feb 07 2010, 07:01 AM	#10853
gippy PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 433	Katana is aviable in Champ for CFR there was a bunch on discgolfvalues.com and there is some star around too. It is a a hyzer flip disc Got a chance to throw one yesterday and with min effort got it out as far as my destroyer. It was Pro didn't get a chance to throw it but one time but it flips flat and goes

Feb 07 2010, 08:47 AM	#10854
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	yes, a hyzer flip for a BOOMING drive but with too much on it it tends to stay headed right(understable) i put one out about 15-20 farther than my star boss. the XG boss on discgolfvalues.com is awesome. it is grippy and i bombed that farther than anything. The katana is nice though. try and get a blem b/c the new, non-blem ones are expensive to be throwing imho

Feb 07 2010, 10:16 PM	#10855
PatrickSmith PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Alexandria, Va Posts: 27	Dave, have you ever ran the eagle L in star?

Feb 09 2010, 05:15 PM	#10857
cholly PDGA Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 61	Hi Dave, What is the most over stable driver that weighs as close to 159.9 grams but not over. (current production, OR some older disc) Thanks Scott

Feb 09 2010, 06:52 PM	#10858
dgdave Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 1,713	I'd guess a Firebird

Feb 09 2010, 07:37 PM	#10860
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	...Green. Possibly also black and gold. I have seen 10x Eagles in both. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley Last edited by 20460chase; Feb 09 2010 at 07:38 PM. Reason: more choices.

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