Old Dec 19 2009, 08:56 AM   #10501
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what is the story of the discmania PD mold? is it a combo of some other molds? what discs share the same rim width?
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Old Dec 19 2009, 10:58 AM   #10502
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The Echo Star TeeBirds were available for West Coast custom orders while the discs were in queue for hot stamping. The entire West Coast inventory has been stock stamped and have been available to all customers for the past week. The discs for East Coast are still waiting to be shipped and likely won't be available from them until mid-January.
Thats wrong. You should be allowing everyone to order from the West then, or they shouldnt be released. Total BS.
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Old Dec 19 2009, 11:29 AM   #10503
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I threw about 360 ft with an Aviar (end zone to end zone). Craig Leyva could/can throw 400ft or more. So can Avery. I think Dave Griffin was a 400ft Aviar thrower too.

Sam did roll an Aviar that far, but it was on a dry lake bed and would have gone farther if he had started farther back. The rollers will often roll to the end of the lake bed. I am sure he could have rolled a half mile or more.
i thought it was randy lahm who threw the monster aviar roller.
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Old Dec 19 2009, 01:04 PM   #10504
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Please do a run of Pro Orcs. Thanks.
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Old Dec 19 2009, 01:30 PM   #10505
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Thats wrong. You should be allowing everyone to order from the West then, or they shouldnt be released. Total BS.
So what your saying Innova should press a new disc and wait till it has shipped to both branches before any sales? They could always ship to the East first then the West.

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Old Dec 19 2009, 08:27 PM   #10506
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Please do a run of Pro Orcs. Thanks.
maybe we could all pitch in $50 for 5, and then have at least 500 made. That would only take 100 of us. There are surely more of us who miss the Pro Orc. I threw distance once and got 149 meters (489 ft) with a Pro Orc (Pro Worlds 07). It went about 540, but to my dismay only air distance counted.

Blue Pro Orcs please!

Dave what would be the minimum order to get a run of Pro Orcs?
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Old Dec 20 2009, 08:36 AM   #10507
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maybe we could all pitch in $50 for 5, and then have at least 500 made. That would only take 100 of us. There are surely more of us who miss the Pro Orc. I threw distance once and got 149 meters (489 ft) with a Pro Orc (Pro Worlds 07). It went about 540, but to my dismay only air distance counted.

Blue Pro Orcs please!

Dave what would be the minimum order to get a run of Pro Orcs?
Too many, I think. I did offer the Pro (Millennium) Orc to John H, but he wasn't interested. That would be a way to get it back into production.

We would like to offer every disc we have ever made, but it is not feasible in terms of molding time and storage space.

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Old Dec 20 2009, 09:12 AM   #10508
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I did offer the Pro (Millennium) Orc to John H, but he wasn't interested. That would be a way to get it back into production.
A Millenium Pro Orc... If that happened would not the Champion Orc and Star Orc overlap with the Q and Sirius Millenium versions? Or would John Houck/Millenium only be given the Pro (standard Millenium plastic) version?

Isn't the Orc inbetween an Orion LS and an Orion LF?

I'd suggest the Pro Orc as a fundraiser but realize it can't compete with the Roc...

The Star Valk and Star Beast seem close to a Pro Orc... (?)

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Dave you are getting very sleepy... repeat after me: I must make Pro Orcs... I must make Blue Pro Orcs... I must make-it-so...

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i will say the Destroyer has pretty much been my 'help-me-Rhonda' in terms of my missing shiny new Pro Orcs.

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Old Dec 20 2009, 11:13 AM   #10509
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Too many, I think. I did offer the Pro (Millennium) Orc to John H, but he wasn't interested. That would be a way to get it back into production.

We would like to offer every disc we have ever made, but it is not feasible in terms of molding time and storage space.

Make it a CFR. I think it would definitely do better than Champion Vipers...

If Houck doesn't want it, how do I get the rights to it? Like Discmania, etc.
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Old Dec 20 2009, 02:47 PM   #10510
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If Houck doesn't want it, how do I get the rights to it? Like Discmania, etc.
you are not the first person to have asked Dave that question
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Old Dec 21 2009, 12:07 PM   #10511
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Dave,

Three questions:

When can we expect a Champion Katana for CFR production?

Will there be CFR Glow Teebirds and Firebirds (regular mold, not -L molds) available soon at East Coast?

Is it possible for A-Tiers to get special models for CFR that B-Tiers cannot get and so on?



Looking forward to selling some discs for the Atlanta Open A-Tier and the EatSleepDisc.com Autumn Open A-Tier. Innova by far has been the best sponsor, supporting my events through CFR pricing for disc sponsor sales.
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Old Dec 21 2009, 12:44 PM   #10512
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Dave,

Three questions:

When can we expect a Champion Katana for CFR production?

Will there be CFR Glow Teebirds and Firebirds (regular mold, not -L molds) available soon at East Coast?

Is it possible for A-Tiers to get special models for CFR that B-Tiers cannot get and so on?



Looking forward to selling some discs for the Atlanta Open A-Tier and the EatSleepDisc.com Autumn Open A-Tier. Innova by far has been the best sponsor, supporting my events through CFR pricing for disc sponsor sales.
We should start making Champ Katanas in January for CFR.

We have no stock of either CFR Glow TeeBirds or Firebirds on either coast. Neither is currently scheduled for production.

Special models are usually only available for majors and NTs. And not even necessarily for those. We decide on a case by case basis. Contact East Coast for your event.
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Old Dec 21 2009, 12:49 PM   #10513
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So what your saying Innova should press a new disc and wait till it has shipped to both branches before any sales? They could always ship to the East first then the West.

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I dont know, I just know Im sick of seeing specialty and even new release discs on Ebay and on other websites that I have no access to and have to lose business over it. I appreciate thier products, just not the way they choose to distribute them, I suppose is the nicest way I can put it.
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Old Dec 21 2009, 05:14 PM   #10514
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Will there be a run of Champion Makos for CFR also? At least by February when the East Coast gets the Katanas?
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Old Dec 22 2009, 08:19 PM   #10515
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Hey Dave,

Latitude 64 has recently got their new Halo driver down to 164 grams in their opto plastic. Assuming that opto is pretty much champion plastic, what do you think is allowing them to get their driver thats very similar to the boss spec wise down in weight so much?

Whats holding innova up? I'm pretty sure with that speed and weight a champ boss could crush at 164 grams.
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Old Dec 23 2009, 10:55 AM   #10516
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Dave,

Now that you have the Echo Teebird molded, what are the plans for an Echo Firebird?
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Old Dec 23 2009, 11:17 AM   #10517
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Will there be a run of Champion Makos for CFR also? At least by February when the East Coast gets the Katanas?
Champion Makos will be main stream when we make them.
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Old Dec 23 2009, 11:18 AM   #10518
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Now that you have the Echo Teebird molded, what are the plans for an Echo Firebird?
We haven't make any plans regarding the Echo Firebird as yet.
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Old Dec 23 2009, 12:03 PM   #10519
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Is there any chance that a test run has been already made of the echo firebirds because I know a guy who has a firebird that is the green plastic and he got it off of one of the innova team members and they told him it was an echo firebird.
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Old Dec 23 2009, 02:11 PM   #10520
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Thanks Dave.

One more question:

On the East Coast order form it has Star Bosses at 150 Class as out of stock, when do you anticipate to make/ship more our way?

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Old Dec 23 2009, 05:24 PM   #10521
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Is there any chance that a test run has been already made of the echo firebirds because I know a guy who has a firebird that is the green plastic and he got it off of one of the innova team members and they told him it was an echo firebird.
We probably made some test shots, but I rember them being domey. We didn't want domey Firebirds so we stopped.
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Old Dec 23 2009, 05:25 PM   #10522
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Thanks Dave.

One more question:

On the East Coast order form it has Star Bosses at 150 Class as out of stock, when do you anticipate to make/ship more our way?

Thanks,
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That is a glitch in their order form. There is no such thing as 150 Star Bosses. They occasionally go down to 166gms.

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Old Dec 24 2009, 11:13 AM   #10523
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We probably made some test shots, but I rember them being domey. We didn't want domey Firebirds so we stopped.

When your making those flat Firebirds, could you throw some FLs in there?
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Old Dec 24 2009, 11:27 AM   #10524
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Old Dec 24 2009, 05:10 PM   #10525
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Dave, a guy on another board was asking for someone to identify the 2007 GSC disc.

Looks fairly stable and is in a dark champion plastic and I was thinking either a Teerex or Max but I don't really remember if the max came out in 06' or 07'.
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Old Dec 24 2009, 09:28 PM   #10526
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Dave, a guy on another board was asking for someone to identify the 2007 GSC disc.

Looks fairly stable and is in a dark champion plastic and I was thinking either a Teerex or Max but I don't really remember if the max came out in 06' or 07'.
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Old Dec 25 2009, 01:30 PM   #10527
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Any chance of these in 2010?
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Old Dec 26 2009, 09:21 AM   #10528
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Any chance of these in 2010?
Yes, they are a regular item.

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Old Dec 26 2009, 08:28 PM   #10529
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Could you please screw up your next 19 runs of any discs in star plastic so you can run echo runs of everything? Thanks!
Is it possible to run echo champion? Is the echo a mix of both? Could you do that? I like the echo plastic, obviously.
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Could you please screw up your next 19 runs of any discs in star plastic so you can run echo runs of everything? Thanks!
Is it possible to run echo champion? Is the echo a mix of both? Could you do that? I like the echo plastic, obviously.
Echo is a mix of both.
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