Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 343

20460chase · Oct 22 2009, 07:26 PM

I just threw a Pro Boss against the wall 15 times. Now I have a Katana.

davei · Oct 22 2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shags17

Hey Dave, sorry if this has been asked before. I tried searching and didn't come up with an answer. A guy on our local clubs forums was saying he picked up a Feldberg stamped Champ Boss and was wondering if it was a new stamp. We all told him it wasn't new, but we all wondered whether the Champ Bosses have ever been stamped without Feldberg's signature. Just a curiousity. Thanks Dave!

Just the first run star stamp, I believe.

davei · Oct 22 2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by notahobogolfer

Dave,
How does the start Mako comapre to other midranges like the roc, coyote, and shark? I read the reviews on the Innova site, but was interested to here what your opinion on it was.

Thanks!

It is less over stable than any of the others. The range is similar or possibly slightly better due to the straight finish. The Mako can be used to putt too, as it has a similar characteristic to our Aviar P&A with more range and speed. Stingrays and Cobras turn more high speed, but they also come back more low speed. It is the low speed finish that I like. It is definitely a finesse disc, as opposed to a power disc like a new Roc, Cro, or especially Gator.

Shags17 · Oct 23 2009, 01:48 AM

Right on, thanks Dave!

ChrisEads · Oct 23 2009, 10:10 AM

Hey Dave,
I was wondering if the Katana was anything like the Boss in the way of lighter weights being more stable than their max weight counterparts. And when are we looking at it being released in star plastic? Thanks so much for continually pushing the bar and I look forward to throwing this disc and I know my gf is very happy to have something that she will be able to hyzer flip that has some speed behind it.

mrspank · Oct 23 2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by davei

Beaded Gator X. The bead doesn't make it X.

How are the Gator Xs differentiated from the regular Gators? Does the underside say Gx? As always, thanks for your time and commitment.

tokyo · Oct 23 2009, 11:36 AM

They should be marked as such and I think the main difference in gator and gatorx is it has a blunter nose on it.

flynvegas · Oct 23 2009, 12:37 PM

Dave,
Do you know if S Johnson ever plans on publishing that book on disc golf discs?

Thx

davei · Oct 23 2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisEads

Hey Dave,
I was wondering if the Katana was anything like the Boss in the way of lighter weights being more stable than their max weight counterparts. And when are we looking at it being released in star plastic? Thanks so much for continually pushing the bar and I look forward to throwing this disc and I know my gf is very happy to have something that she will be able to hyzer flip that has some speed behind it.

Only the lighter Starlight Bosses are more stable than the heavier Star Bosses. The other plastics generally follow the normal pattern. We will try Starlight in Katanas at some point. We haven't even test Star in a Katana so there is no release date for that at all.

davei · Oct 23 2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by flynvegas

Dave,
Do you know if S Johnson ever plans on publishing that book on disc golf discs?

Thx

I hope so. I know he is still working on it. From the amount of questions and answers I have participated in, I believe it is going to be a tome.

Gator515 · Oct 23 2009, 05:02 PM

So lets say I get a Pro Boss at 175g what Star Boss weight would you say it would equal in stability.

davei · Oct 23 2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gator515

So lets say I get a Pro Boss at 175g what Star Boss weight would you say it would equal in stability.

The Pro would probably be closest to the 175g Star, but still not quite as stable.

MichaelWebster · Oct 23 2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by davei

It is less over stable than any of the others. The range is similar or possibly slightly better due to the straight finish. The Mako can be used to putt too, as it has a similar characteristic to our Aviar P&A with more range and speed. Stingrays and Cobras turn more high speed, but they also come back more low speed. It is the low speed finish that I like. It is definitely a finesse disc, as opposed to a power disc like a new Roc, Cro, or especially Gator.

I threw a Mako today. Its very nice. I thought it was very similar to a coyote, just a little more stable in my opinion.

notahobogolfer · Oct 23 2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelWebster

I threw a Mako today. Its very nice. I thought it was very similar to a coyote, just a little more stable in my opinion.

More like a buzzz?

rob · Oct 24 2009, 10:38 AM

the Mako is a stable (straight) disc. Very putter-like in flite. If thrown flat, it flies straight with very little fade. It holds a line very well. If you get over on it, it will turn over. Not great into a headwind. I think it's found a place in my bag.

AviarX · Oct 24 2009, 08:56 PM

Hey Dave,

How does the Mako compare with the Aurora MS / QMS?

rizbee · Oct 25 2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AviarX

Hey Dave,

How does the Mako compare with the Aurora MS / QMS?

Excellent question - looking forward to the answer.

Also, Dave, what will the low end of the weight range be for the Mako?

davei · Oct 26 2009, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AviarX

Hey Dave,

How does the Mako compare with the Aurora MS / QMS?

It has more torque resistance, but otherwise compares fairly well with a slightly seasoned MS, I think. A new MS would be more overstable at low speeds. I think the MS would compare more to the new Coyote.

davei · Oct 26 2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rizbee

Excellent question - looking forward to the answer.

Also, Dave, what will the low end of the weight range be for the Mako?

Not sure what they will be eventually, but for now, 165g is the lowest we are offering.

junky · Oct 26 2009, 12:16 PM

The Mako might just replace my XD...if it was pro plastic, no question it would. Also liking the Pro Boss!

J_VanOver · Oct 27 2009, 10:41 AM

I didn't see many Katanas with a sub 150 weight. I thought there would be more because of the affiliation with the JO.

There are 17 in the 140-150 range (all of which are sold out) and 91 in the 151-155 range. Those 151-155 would be dangerous to take over there and then not fall below the 152 cut off. Is there a plan to make more a lower numbers before the JO? Maybe out of DX?

20460chase · Oct 27 2009, 10:46 AM

Im sure Im wrong, but I thought that they may be upping the weights there.

flynvegas · Oct 27 2009, 10:53 AM

Dave,
Was there a HOF disc made the year you were inducted? Trying to complete a set and would need this one if it was made.

Thx

veganray · Oct 27 2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 20460chase

Im sure Im wrong, but I thought that they may be upping the weights there.

JO 2010 will allow weights up to 159.4g for the Pro division.

davei · Oct 27 2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flynvegas

Dave,
Was there a HOF disc made the year you were inducted? Trying to complete a set and would need this one if it was made.

Thx

Yes, a black Aviar P&A.

davei · Oct 27 2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by veganray

JO 2010 will allow weights up to 159.4g for the Pro division.

I believe they are changing the upper limit to 159.9g. No tolerance.

veganray · Oct 27 2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by davei

I believe they are changing the upper limit to 159.9g. No tolerance.

Dave D is correct.

LastBoyScout · Oct 27 2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by veganray

Dave D is correct.

veganray is correct

33009 · Oct 27 2009, 04:09 PM

Im sorry but what does HOF disc mean? hall of fame?

weaves · Oct 27 2009, 05:02 PM

Hey Dave, do you know when the collector guide will come out for the usdgc rocs?

Oct 22 2009, 07:26 PM	#10261
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	I just threw a Pro Boss against the wall 15 times. Now I have a Katana. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Oct 23 2009, 10:10 AM	#10265
ChrisEads PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 464	Hey Dave, I was wondering if the Katana was anything like the Boss in the way of lighter weights being more stable than their max weight counterparts. And when are we looking at it being released in star plastic? Thanks so much for continually pushing the bar and I look forward to throwing this disc and I know my gf is very happy to have something that she will be able to hyzer flip that has some speed behind it. __________________ WAFDA Tag #1 Pleasant View Tag #2 DAD TAG #2(Sugga Daddy)

Oct 23 2009, 11:36 AM	#10267
tokyo PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 1,086	They should be marked as such and I think the main difference in gator and gatorx is it has a blunter nose on it. __________________ SOLSTICE DISC SPORTS http://www.eatsleepdisc.com/

Oct 26 2009, 12:16 PM	#10280
junky PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Norman Posts: 340	The Mako might just replace my XD...if it was pro plastic, no question it would. Also liking the Pro Boss! __________________ J_ace 36157

Oct 27 2009, 10:46 AM	#10282
20460chase PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 2630 16th St. Moline IL Posts: 2,085	Im sure Im wrong, but I thought that they may be upping the weights there. __________________ www.ironliondgs.com www.iowaDG.com "I dont come to bow, I come to conquer"- Bob Marley

Oct 23 2009, 01:48 AM	#10264
Shags17 PDGA Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Missoula, MT Posts: 36	Right on, thanks Dave!

Oct 23 2009, 12:37 PM	#10268
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Dave, Do you know if S Johnson ever plans on publishing that book on disc golf discs? Thx

Oct 23 2009, 05:02 PM	#10271
Gator515 Community Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 27	So lets say I get a Pro Boss at 175g what Star Boss weight would you say it would equal in stability.

Oct 24 2009, 10:38 AM	#10275
rob PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 709	the Mako is a stable (straight) disc. Very putter-like in flite. If thrown flat, it flies straight with very little fade. It holds a line very well. If you get over on it, it will turn over. Not great into a headwind. I think it's found a place in my bag.

Oct 24 2009, 08:56 PM	#10276
AviarX PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwest of Indianapolis Posts: 2,504	Hey Dave, How does the Mako compare with the Aurora MS / QMS?

Oct 27 2009, 10:41 AM	#10281
J_VanOver Community Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 57	I didn't see many Katanas with a sub 150 weight. I thought there would be more because of the affiliation with the JO. There are 17 in the 140-150 range (all of which are sold out) and 91 in the 151-155 range. Those 151-155 would be dangerous to take over there and then not fall below the 152 cut off. Is there a plan to make more a lower numbers before the JO? Maybe out of DX?

Oct 27 2009, 10:53 AM	#10283
flynvegas PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,449	Dave, Was there a HOF disc made the year you were inducted? Trying to complete a set and would need this one if it was made. Thx

Oct 27 2009, 04:09 PM	#10289
33009 PDGA Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boise Idaho Posts: 57	Im sorry but what does HOF disc mean? hall of fame?

Oct 27 2009, 05:02 PM	#10290
weaves PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 45	Hey Dave, do you know when the collector guide will come out for the usdgc rocs?

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