Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

Is "Nightshift" a slang term for a disc variance, or is it actually referring to discs made on the graveyard shift?

If so, what is different about those discs? They should be molded under approximately the same temp and pressure, the only difference I can think of is that the temperature and water content of the raw plastic beads could vary slightly as the ambient conditions change, or that the cooling rate would also vary, depending on the ambient conditions.

But since we are talking about SoCal, how much change could there be?

Night Shift refers to the PM shift which took a few liberties with the formula of plastics we were using. One of those liberties produced the Star plastic prototypes which we originally referred to as Night Shift.

[kwibby1]

Night Shift refers to the PM shift which took a few liberties with the formula of plastics we were using. One of those liberties produced the Star plastic prototypes which we originally referred to as Night Shift.

I hope they got a bonus

[dthrow]

I am trying to find some information about the 2007 am worlds stamped 1st run cros. I just sold one of these and the buyer says its a spider because the bottom is marked SP. Was it a 1st run cro or a spider? I thought it was a cro but no longer have the disc to compare to a cro/spider to see what it is. Can anyone help? Does anyone have one of these in which they could compare to a cro or spider. THanks in advanced for any help. Mike

[mf100forever]

Hi Dave,
saw that the new Discmania GM was released, which Gremlin mold did you use?

[dgdave]

Some early cros were marked as a spider by mistake. This was documented in one of these Dave D threads. Spiders have beads and Cros don't.

[davei]

Hi Dave,
saw that the new Discmania GM was released, which Gremlin mold did you use?

Original, I believe. Roc like flight, but faster and longer.

[tokyo]

Some early cros were marked as a spider by mistake. This was documented in one of these Dave D threads. Spiders have beads and Cros don't.

So r u saying that a cro is spider without the bead?

[vadiscgolf]

Cro's have a small micro bead if you look close.

[dgdave]

So r u saying that a cro is spider without the bead?

No. Its just an easy way to tell them apart.

[RhynoBoy]

I can't wait to try the lightweight test R-Pro Boss. This could be a fun disc to throw.

[vadiscgolf]

They are out now.

[gokayaksteven]

Thanks for these Dave---are they flat or domey in the lower weights?

[davei]

Thanks for these Dave---are they flat or domey in the lower weights?

They're kinda medium. Slow turn. Weights went anywhere from about 140g or so, up to 170g or so. Most were low 150s

[cduncan]

Hey Dave, i was just wondering why DX full rocs have been discontinued? They were the best currently produced rocs in my opinion, the flat top makes them feel really nice in the my hand also. thanks

[davei]

Hey Dave, i was just wondering why DX full rocs have been discontinued? They were the best currently produced rocs in my opinion, the flat top makes them feel really nice in the my hand also. thanks

The Full Color Rocs were done on the East Coast. They ran out of the materials necessary to color them. I think they may still do some type of flat Roc that doesn't have the full color though.

[33009]

I second the flat top rocs, pretty please Dave. Ill buy you a frozen yogurt ;-)

[TROTTER]

Here are some Flat Tops that go thru the Full-Color Process but are hotstamped... For your throwing enjoyment.



http://discgolfclub.org/proshop/inde...roducts_id=321

Innova East is running the batch of DX Rancho Rocs through the old full color machine to ensure they are flat for us... They are charging us a little more for it but if you want a Ching Roc... this is close as you are going to get in new stock.

It was the machine that applied the full-color stamps... Well, the full-color stamps are no longer available, but the machine that applied the stamps is!!! Innova has agreed to run these Ranchos through that machine guaranteeing a true Flat Top Roc... Tired of digging thru stacks of Rocs for that perfect top? Want to stop ordering 5 discs just so you can get 1 that is "good enough"?

Pay for one and get a flat one... Pay for two and get two flat ones... Pay for three and get three flat ones... you get the idea.

http://discgolfclub.org/proshop/inde...roducts_id=321


The Zonedriven Guys have a batch of them too with the bald kung-fu guy on them too - max weight and all white.

[Breeze]

I second the flat top rocs, pretty please Dave. Ill buy you a frozen yogurt ;-)

With sprinkles on top!!! Flat tops are the best!!!

[dgdave]

Are you planning on running any more Champ Bosses like the test run that came out with all the bubbles in the rim? I have really come to enjoy those.

[DSproAVIAR]

They're kinda medium. Slow turn. Weights went anywhere from about 140g or so, up to 170g or so. Most were low 150s

Dave, for someone that can throw a Destroyer 420' (pretty common), would these be over or under?
What would the optimal flight path be for one of these? i.e. Hyzerflip, high S-turn, straight at it?
I'm assuming you would never throw this in a headwind. Is this true?

[davei]

Dave, for someone that can throw a Destroyer 420' (pretty common), would these be over or under?
What would the optimal flight path be for one of these? i.e. Hyzerflip, high S-turn, straight at it?
I'm assuming you would never throw this in a headwind. Is this true?

No, these are not for headwinds unless you are only throwing 300-350. In that case, they would be fine. Hyzer flip is probably the way to go with these discs. Nose angle (from down to up) on release will determine whether the discs stays over, comes back slowly, or comes back medium.

[davei]

Are you planning on running any more Champ Bosses like the test run that came out with all the bubbles in the rim? I have really come to enjoy those.

No. Those were an accident and our retailers don't like bubbles even though bubbles don't affect the flight.

[dgdave]

No. Those were an accident and our retailers don't like bubbles even though bubbles don't affect the flight.

I don't mean that they need the bubbles, just that have the same shape and really fast, overstable flight.

[davei]

I don't mean that they need the bubbles, just that have the same shape and really fast, overstable flight.

All of the newer Champion and the lighter weights in Star should be similar.

[tokyo]

Are there any plans for Rhynos being made R-pro?

[davei]

Are there any plans for Rhynos being made R-pro?

Yes. Rhynos, Pigs, and JKs will be made of the new R-Pro. We are currently testing Cros, Ontario Rocs and Rancho Rocs in R-Pro too.

[gokayaksteven]

i putt with the cro, and would love to get some in r-pro...

[bob]

Hi Dave,
I saw some stiffer R-Pro Darts a local pro had.
They felt great. (The regular run was too floppy for my tastes)

Will any of the discs you plan to run in R-Pro be this stiffer version, or is the plan to have them all like the Dart?

Thanks,
Bob

[shteev]

any idea if and when r-pro boss will be produced for all of us to get? also wondering about an eta on r-pro rocs?

[Furthur]

Dave, have the Discmania drivers been run in R-Pro yet? The DD was a little flat for my taste in the S Line; did they dome up a little more in R-Pro (kinda like a wraith)?