Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[davei]

When is the Champion Destroyer set for realse?? In regular run production?

No date has been set yet.

[gokayaksteven]

great news re the gator. will there be star with the bead, or star and champ? also-- any tests of light dx bosses yet?

[LegoRules]

The next run of JKs will be made out of R-Pro. So will the next Pro Rhynos and Pigs. The Dart is the first of this blend, although the JK, Rhyno, and Pig blends were of the same family of plastics.

When can we expect to see those runs of r-pro pigs hit the market? I need to replace my lost pro pig, and was thinking I would wait for the r-pro pigs.

Cindy

[davei]

great news re the gator. will there be star with the bead, or star and champ? also-- any tests of light dx bosses yet?

Most likely, all future runs of Gators (all types) will have the bead. No test of light DX Bosses yet.

[davei]

When can we expect to see those runs of r-pro pigs hit the market? I need to replace my lost pro pig, and was thinking I would wait for the r-pro pigs.

Cindy

The new run of pigs won't happen for several months.

[kjellispv]

I recently recieved a disc with a 2006 golden state stamp on it. I thought it was a gator but it feels different in the hands. And on the back it says sgm? It looks like it my be a combination of two molds? Does anyone have an idea what it could be? Is it a star gremlin?

[gippy]

That would be my guess thats the only disc I could think of that would have sgm on it but I could be wrong. DAVE?

[davei]

That would be my guess thats the only disc I could think of that would have sgm on it but I could be wrong. DAVE?

I would have to see it, but the acronym is Star Gremlin. Gremlins are lower profile than Gators although they do share the same bevel look.

[dgdave]

And the gremlins from then were beadless

[billmh]

And fantastic discs.

[futurecollisions]

I dont know if this has been asked before, but does anyone know what a 'baby' star roc is? is it smaller than a normal star roc?

[mrspank]

"Baby" refers to one of the stamps that was used as part of the 2006 USDGC Roc series, with a baby roc hatching in the picture. Here you go:
http://www.championroc.com/disc.php?id=38

[Furthur]

The Baby Star Roc a USDGC stamp from 2006.




edit: beaten to the punch!

[futurecollisions]

Thanks everyone, that is good news, i found a roc i wanted to buy on ebay and was hoping it wasnt some tiny disc

[bigderrenp]

when and if are star/echo star grooves going to be made. also do you think if you are going to make echo star firebirds

[davei]

when and if are star/echo star grooves going to be made. also do you think if you are going to make echo star firebirds

We will probably make Star and Echo Star Grooves before the end of April. Echo Firebirds have not been scheduled.

[ANHYZER]

Have you gone back to producing the stable Champion Monsters?

[MikeG]

I am working on it. Not the Monarch type, but a different technique. Probably going to take several months, but will be worth it if I get it right. The end game is a Leopard distance disc that flies virtually straight. Most of our older discs had some slight overstability built into them for the inevitable scuffs on the DX plastic that we used. We wanted them to have a gradual wear pattern. The urethane plastic changed this wear pattern. Our newer drivers are built with urethane as the primary plastic. Some of them don't do to well with DX.

Any progress on the new driver?

[davei]

Have you gone back to producing the stable Champion Monsters?

Yes

[davei]

Any progress on the new driver?

Yes. Good progress with the theory. Still testing prototypes in mid ranges. Actually tested two today. Both were successful. Going to test another tomorrow. Probably a month or more before the first driver test.

[kjellispv]

mike g have you ever tried a star leopard? they are pretty straight new... either that or i got lucky with mine..

[MikeG]

mike g have you ever tried a star leopard? they are pretty straight new... either that or i got lucky with mine..

I love the leopard. It's one of the most controllable drivers I've thrown. I agree with discspeed though - the ones I've tried in Star and Champion are slightly overstable to begin with.

If Dave could come up with a truly straight fairway driver (6,5,0,0), I'm sure it would be a bestseller.

[mikeP]

I love the leopard. It's one of the most controllable drivers I've thrown. I agree with discspeed though - the ones I've tried in Star and Champion are slightly overstable to begin with.

If Dave could come up with a truly straight fairway driver (6,5,0,0), I'm sure it would be a bestseller.

A flight that truly has zero high speed turn and zero fade is something imparted on the disc by the thrower rather than a disc's flight characteristic. It usually requires a disc with at least a -1 in high speed turn to be thrown with some degree of hyzer with the correct height and spin so that the disc stands up flat out of the hand and when the disc's spin decreases it simply falls to the ground rather than fading. I don't think that zero turn and zero fade can be achieved by a certain wing shape or any of the other molding variables, but we can come closer to that than we currently are for sure. Its still going to be up to the thrower as the perfectly straight shot is one of the most beautiful and difficult things to master.

I think what Dave is probably working on is a disc with numbers more like 6, 5, -1, 1...or something like that. Basically putter numbers for stability/glide and driver numbers for speed. Speed is the tricky variable because it tends to amplify both high speed turn and fade simultaneously.

[cgkdisc]

I don't think that zero turn and zero fade can be achieved by a certain wing shape or any of the other molding variables, but we can come closer to that than we currently are for sure.

We have it already in a Super Class driver from Innova
http://www.innovadiscs.com/discs/zephyr.html

[Breeze]

Hey Dave,

I've been looking for a CFR Glow Firebird FX for a long time. Seems best I can tell its a late 10x or early 11x mold. I've even sent e-mails to discgolfvalues. He said its been a few years since you all have ran them. Any chance you will run them this year? Or any idea where I can locate?

Thanks a bunch!

[davei]

Hey Dave,

I've been looking for a CFR Glow Firebird FX for a long time. Seems best I can tell its a late 10x or early 11x mold. I've even sent e-mails to discgolfvalues. He said its been a few years since you all have ran them. Any chance you will run them this year? Or any idea where I can locate?

Thanks a bunch!

We still have the FLs, but no FXs. We probably are not running any this year. Sorry, I don't know where you can get any.

[20460chase]

Was curious about the "Hands" " Putter" Avair, and the re-issue/ copy version?

Thanks Dave.

[pdiddy71]

Dave, i have noticed on the star Bosses that i just got that there is a bunch of little specks all around the rim of them. is this a molding flaw or something added to the discs?

[davei]

Was curious about the "Hands" " Putter" Avair, and the re-issue/ copy version?

Thanks Dave.

I don't know that much. The original was done by Frank Allen from Phoenix,Arizona, at the time. A disc golfer. Probably more than 15 years ago. I don't know anything about the re-issue.

[davei]

Dave, i have noticed on the star Bosses that i just got that there is a bunch of little specks all around the rim of them. is this a molding flaw or something added to the discs?

It's particular to this type of plastic, but it's not that consistent. Sometimes more and sometimes less. It's also particular to this plastic to be more stable in the lighter weights than the heavier weights.