Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 310

davei · Mar 03 2009, 05:42 PM

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"The R-Pro Dart is basically a putter like the Aviar, but shaped like a small Aero"

A cross between my two favorite discs of all time!!! I can't wait to get one! Have they been shipped to retailers yet?

Hi Bill. Yes they have.

jfarm07 · Mar 04 2009, 11:09 AM

Hey Dave, you mentioned a while back that you would be molding some x-mold (beaded) Gators in Star and Champion. Any idea when those might be molded and sent out to retailers? Thanks!

zaschenbach1 · Mar 04 2009, 08:36 PM

Why did innova start putting the flight characteristics on the discs. EX: star boss and groove

born2lose · Mar 04 2009, 09:46 PM

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Why did innova start putting the flight characteristics on the discs. EX: star boss and groove

I think it is a great idea

mikeP · Mar 05 2009, 08:09 AM

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Why did innova start putting the flight characteristics on the discs. EX: star boss and groove

To appeal to geeky minded scientific people(myself included) who appreciate charts, graphs, etc. I've never heard anyone say "I wouldn't buy a disc with a flight chart on it".

mikeP · Mar 05 2009, 08:22 AM

Dave,

What kind of feedback have you recieved from your testers/team members on the Star Boss?

I love the one pre-release green 175 that I bought. It seems to have a bit straighter flight character (in the air and at ground impact) than the Champion version, so it seems much more versatile as a go-to distance driver. I just wonder whether I got a really good one or if this disc is simply going to replace everybody's D driver as it gets around.

mrspank · Mar 05 2009, 02:46 PM

I think the flight chart is a great idea. Discraft was onto something with the +/- stability ratings they have, but Innova improved upon it by adding the rest of the flight characteristics to the disc. Not only should it help newer players choose discs that might be more appropriate for their skill levels, but it should also help with shot selection on the course for those of us who carry more discs than we know what to do with.

mutt · Mar 05 2009, 11:44 PM

I got a disc a few weeks ago it is marked AD is this the new dart or a aviar? Also do they not make champion cobras anymore?

vadiscgolf · Mar 06 2009, 12:02 AM

The ratings thing on the disc is good but I think speed and turn might be enough.

pdiddy71 · Mar 06 2009, 01:48 AM

they stopped making champion cobras a while back.

dgdave · Mar 06 2009, 07:58 AM

AD= Aviar Driver. Its the new Big Bead mold aviar

shteev · Mar 06 2009, 09:02 AM

maybe this is the dumbest question you have received in a while but here it is anyway what does the r- stand for in r-pro?

Furthur · Mar 06 2009, 09:30 AM

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maybe this is the dumbest question you have received in a while but here it is anyway what does the r- stand for in r-pro?

Rubber I think.

davei · Mar 06 2009, 09:59 AM

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Hey Dave, you mentioned a while back that you would be molding some x-mold (beaded) Gators in Star and Champion. Any idea when those might be molded and sent out to retailers? Thanks!

We have a test coming up fairly soon, but no run scheduled yet.

davei · Mar 06 2009, 10:01 AM

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Why did innova start putting the flight characteristics on the discs. EX: star boss and groove

We just started a month ago or so. We plan on doing it to all of our discs, eventually.

davei · Mar 06 2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Dave,

What kind of feedback have you recieved from your testers/team members on the Star Boss?

I love the one pre-release green 175 that I bought. It seems to have a bit straighter flight character (in the air and at ground impact) than the Champion version, so it seems much more versatile as a go-to distance driver. I just wonder whether I got a really good one or if this disc is simply going to replace everybody's D driver as it gets around.

We haven't gotten any feedback yet. We just started sending them out to the team. The team members here at the Memorial are getting them.

davei · Mar 06 2009, 10:07 AM

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I got a disc a few weeks ago it is marked AD is this the new dart or a aviar? Also do they not make champion cobras anymore?

The AD could be an old Aviar Driver mark that a molder used more recently. We don't make Champion Cobras on a regular basis. Possibly we will do a run in the future.

davei · Mar 06 2009, 10:09 AM

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maybe this is the dumbest question you have received in a while but here it is anyway what does the r- stand for in r-pro?

Rubber I think.

It is basically just a designation to separate it from the other Pro types, but it also stands for Rubber.

EricJKopit · Mar 07 2009, 01:59 AM

Hi Dave,

How would you compare the Dart to a Goblin? I throw a beat 170g Goblin for longer distance putts and shortish straight approaches...this sounds kinda similar.

Thanks,

-Eric K

shteev · Mar 07 2009, 05:09 AM

whatever line you put it in it goes there. a very straight disc. my buddy was getting good distance with it as well.

shteev · Mar 07 2009, 05:11 AM

Dave,

has anything else been made in r-pro? jk aviar-x's being the one im wondering about. the plastic felt similar but so similar that it might be the same. thanks

Fossil · Mar 07 2009, 07:06 AM

I just got 10 JK Aviar - X from Innova East yesterday and they felt the same, since the Dart has R-Pro on the stamp I bet a new JK hotstamp will be made to indicate R-Pro, that may be part of the delay. I was looking forward to feeling a JK -X in the new plastic.

Dave were there any Darts with the Star Stamp?

anthonyaguirre · Mar 07 2009, 03:17 PM

R-PRO TEEBIRDS / R-PRO ROCS!!! = $$$$$ these would be sweet!!

davei · Mar 07 2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Hi Dave,

How would you compare the Dart to a Goblin? I throw a beat 170g Goblin for longer distance putts and shortish straight approaches...this sounds kinda similar.

Thanks,

-Eric K

The Dart has a little larger rim, a little more high speed stability, and a little more range.

davei · Mar 07 2009, 09:04 PM

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Dave,

has anything else been made in r-pro? jk aviar-x's being the one im wondering about. the plastic felt similar but so similar that it might be the same. thanks

The next run of JKs will be made out of R-Pro. So will the next Pro Rhynos and Pigs. The Dart is the first of this blend, although the JK, Rhyno, and Pig blends were of the same family of plastics.

davei · Mar 07 2009, 09:05 PM

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I just got 10 JK Aviar - X from Innova East yesterday and they felt the same, since the Dart has R-Pro on the stamp I bet a new JK hotstamp will be made to indicate R-Pro, that may be part of the delay. I was looking forward to feeling a JK -X in the new plastic.

Dave were there any Darts with the Star Stamp?

No, I don't believe there were any with the Star Stamp.

AviarX · Mar 08 2009, 09:10 AM

Hi Dave,

in what colors will the R-Pro discs be produced?
(i am specificly interested in the JK's, but the Darts have grabbed my interest too)

gippy · Mar 08 2009, 11:18 AM

When is the Champion Destroyer set for realse?? In regular run production?

pdiddy71 · Mar 08 2009, 11:20 AM

i am looking forward to r-pro rhyno release

davei · Mar 08 2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Hi Dave,

in what colors will the R-Pro discs be produced?
(i am specificly interested in the JK's, but the Darts have grabbed my interest too)

The R-Pro will come in any color. So far yellow, pink, purple, blue, orange, red, and combinations. No black or white yet.

Mar 04 2009, 11:09 AM	#9272
jfarm07 Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: chapel hill, nc Posts: 3	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Hey Dave, you mentioned a while back that you would be molding some x-mold (beaded) Gators in Star and Champion. Any idea when those might be molded and sent out to retailers? Thanks!

Mar 04 2009, 08:36 PM	#9273
zaschenbach1 PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 135	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Why did innova start putting the flight characteristics on the discs. EX: star boss and groove

Mar 05 2009, 08:22 AM	#9276
mikeP Community Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,506	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Dave, What kind of feedback have you recieved from your testers/team members on the Star Boss? I love the one pre-release green 175 that I bought. It seems to have a bit straighter flight character (in the air and at ground impact) than the Champion version, so it seems much more versatile as a go-to distance driver. I just wonder whether I got a really good one or if this disc is simply going to replace everybody's D driver as it gets around.

Mar 05 2009, 02:46 PM	#9277
mrspank Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fritz Park Posts: 86	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 I think the flight chart is a great idea. Discraft was onto something with the +/- stability ratings they have, but Innova improved upon it by adding the rest of the flight characteristics to the disc. Not only should it help newer players choose discs that might be more appropriate for their skill levels, but it should also help with shot selection on the course for those of us who carry more discs than we know what to do with.

Mar 05 2009, 11:44 PM	#9278
mutt PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Edmond Okla Posts: 571	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 I got a disc a few weeks ago it is marked AD is this the new dart or a aviar? Also do they not make champion cobras anymore?

Mar 06 2009, 12:02 AM	#9279
vadiscgolf PDGA Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Grange Posts: 183	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 The ratings thing on the disc is good but I think speed and turn might be enough.

Mar 06 2009, 01:48 AM	#9280
pdiddy71 Community Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lynchburg,va Posts: 178	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 they stopped making champion cobras a while back.

Mar 06 2009, 07:58 AM	#9281
dgdave Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 1,713	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 AD= Aviar Driver. Its the new Big Bead mold aviar

Mar 06 2009, 09:02 AM	#9282
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 maybe this is the dumbest question you have received in a while but here it is anyway what does the r- stand for in r-pro?

Mar 07 2009, 01:59 AM	#9289
EricJKopit Community Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 142	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Hi Dave, How would you compare the Dart to a Goblin? I throw a beat 170g Goblin for longer distance putts and shortish straight approaches...this sounds kinda similar. Thanks, -Eric K

Mar 07 2009, 05:09 AM	#9290
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 whatever line you put it in it goes there. a very straight disc. my buddy was getting good distance with it as well.

Mar 07 2009, 05:11 AM	#9291
shteev Community Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lynchburg, VIrginia Posts: 137	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Dave, has anything else been made in r-pro? jk aviar-x's being the one im wondering about. the plastic felt similar but so similar that it might be the same. thanks

Mar 07 2009, 07:06 AM	#9292
Fossil PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PDGA # 2957 Greene County, Tn. Posts: 552	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 I just got 10 JK Aviar - X from Innova East yesterday and they felt the same, since the Dart has R-Pro on the stamp I bet a new JK hotstamp will be made to indicate R-Pro, that may be part of the delay. I was looking forward to feeling a JK -X in the new plastic. Dave were there any Darts with the Star Stamp?

Mar 07 2009, 03:17 PM	#9293
anthonyaguirre Community Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 R-PRO TEEBIRDS / R-PRO ROCS!!! = $$$$$ these would be sweet!!

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AviarX PDGA Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwest of Indianapolis Posts: 2,504	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Hi Dave, in what colors will the R-Pro discs be produced? (i am specificly interested in the JK's, but the Darts have grabbed my interest too)

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gippy PDGA Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 433	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 When is the Champion Destroyer set for realse?? In regular run production?

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pdiddy71 Community Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lynchburg,va Posts: 178	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 i am looking forward to r-pro rhyno release

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