Old Dec 24 2008, 01:27 AM   #8851
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Was there a run of Q MF?
Never seen any around, limited run, do you know how many there was?
never seen or heard of a Q Aurora MF, proto or otherwise. the only AMFs were Pro plastic (plastic is contemporary with the MS 1.3 run).

as for the Q-Sentinel, the first run was very much a heavy-CE blend. not full CE but close. they've got San Marino engraving. they lasted up until 2007 when a new run of Q was done, same time as the S-Sentinel. those two (second-run Q-Sent and Sirius Sent) are a retooled mold that is more domey and less overstable (has WWW engraving). the San Marino Q is the real killer... overstable and indestructible. perfect Roc rig add-on, in my opinion.
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Old Dec 24 2008, 10:13 AM   #8852
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What are the Xmas discs this year? The labeling is S PD, or appears to be.

Thnaks and Happy Holidays.
Star Powerdriver???

I really appreciate, and look forward to the Christmas disc each year..

Probably my favorite present, don't tell my wife!!!!
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Old Dec 24 2008, 01:22 PM   #8853
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Thanks to all of you who follow this thread.
Merry Christmas Happy Holidays Happy New Year
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Old Dec 24 2008, 04:42 PM   #8854
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Same to you Dave and everyone else at this forum, have an outstanding Christmas!!
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Old Dec 24 2008, 06:53 PM   #8855
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Merry Christmas to you and yours Dave!

Thanks for all the innovation and helpful advice!

a lid once dreamed of being fast and sporty and you make-it-so

let me also extend an early wish for a happy 25th anniversary to the Aviar!
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Old Dec 26 2008, 10:27 PM   #8856
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anyone throw the test run star boss yet?
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Old Dec 27 2008, 02:04 PM   #8857
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This years Christmas disc you say is a prototype Star "Power Driver" ...?

What kind of production run was that, quantity wise? Is "Power Driver" a generic name for a prototype driver, or was this an actual name considered?

It looks oddly similar to a TeeBird or something of that nature.. any more info on this mysterious Christmas Star PowerDriver..
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ps- I like the green with red swirl attempt, subtle but nice
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Old Dec 27 2008, 03:20 PM   #8858
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It is a Discmania disc.
http://www.discmania.net/

Dave - Have you ever considered a consolidated flight chart with Innova, Discmania, and Millenium?
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Old Dec 28 2008, 12:35 AM   #8859
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hope you had a good christmas as well dave. i was wondering is there any flight difference between 11X and 12X KC Pro Rocs? hope to see regular run of champ teerex's sometime.
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Old Dec 28 2008, 10:42 AM   #8860
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This years Christmas disc you say is a prototype Star "Power Driver" ...?

What kind of production run was that, quantity wise? Is "Power Driver" a generic name for a prototype driver, or was this an actual name considered?

It looks oddly similar to a TeeBird or something of that nature.. any more info on this mysterious Christmas Star PowerDriver..
thx

ps- I like the green with red swirl attempt, subtle but nice
The PD is a Discmania disc similar to a Starfire/Firebird/TeeBird. The Christmas disc was a proto run of about 2000, I believe. These did not end up being over stable enough to match what we were going for. The proto run ended up more like a more stable Valkyrie.
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Old Dec 28 2008, 10:52 AM   #8861
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hope you had a good christmas as well dave. i was wondering is there any flight difference between 11X and 12X KC Pro Rocs? hope to see regular run of champ teerex's sometime.
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All KC Rancho Rocs should be the same in the same plastic. Unfortunately we get different batches of the same plastics that may produce slightly different results. I don't know that there is any consistent difference between 11X or 12X, as opposed to different batches of the same year.
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Old Dec 28 2008, 10:55 AM   #8862
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We do not distribute Millenium or Discmania. They are separate companies so they have to develop their own separate promotional materials. They are free to use our system of ratings, or develop their own.
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Old Dec 28 2008, 05:08 PM   #8863
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Hi Dave,

I recently purchased a CFR for the 09 Gentlemen's Club Challenge...

I believe it is a Champion Wraith X, however, I see the disc is marked WR TRX on the underside.

I'm only a year into this great game, and can't seem to find specific information on this disc. Thanks!
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Old Dec 28 2008, 06:34 PM   #8864
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I recently purchased a CFR for the 09 Gentlemen's Club Challenge...

I believe it is a Champion Wraith X, however, I see the disc is marked WR TRX on the underside.

I'm only a year into this great game, and can't seem to find specific information on this disc. Thanks!
Mark Molnar of discgolfvalues would have the scoop on this disc. I believe it is the last of the Wraith X, but I am not sure.
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Old Dec 28 2008, 09:38 PM   #8865
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So I threw the star boss on friday and today and there was some wind on friday but that thing is so stable with a backhand but I think after i beat it in it will fly beautifully. I also got an ACE with it on the first round I played with it, So it def knows how to go in the basket.
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Old Dec 28 2008, 11:46 PM   #8866
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I just received some Champ Valks with no signature. Is that a new thing or a collectors disc? Thanks
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Old Dec 29 2008, 10:54 AM   #8867
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I just received some Champ Valks with no signature. Is that a new thing or a collectors disc? Thanks
New thing.
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Old Dec 29 2008, 11:28 AM   #8868
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Dave,

I bought a Star CFR TRX-X, and I have been playing with it for several rounds.

Two things:

I have a yellow Star TR that is more than a year old. It is still a little more stable than the TRX-X in the same weight. My old yellow is a FREAK. Long AND stable.

The TRX-X does not appear to be a different mold. Laid side by side on the table, I cannot tell a difference.

Question: Are these CFR's "enhanced" or are they a different mold? I am just curious, as i must be missing something.

PS: This is the TR I have been looking for... your CFR's always seem to be super well made discs.
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Old Dec 29 2008, 04:23 PM   #8869
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I bought a Star CFR TRX-X, and I have been playing with it for several rounds.

Two things:

I have a yellow Star TR that is more than a year old. It is still a little more stable than the TRX-X in the same weight. My old yellow is a FREAK. Long AND stable.

The TRX-X does not appear to be a different mold. Laid side by side on the table, I cannot tell a difference.

Question: Are these CFR's "enhanced" or are they a different mold? I am just curious, as i must be missing something.

PS: This is the TR I have been looking for... your CFR's always seem to be super well made discs.
The TRXX has a slight recurve on the flight plate, just before the nose. The TRX is definitely scheduled for the "enhanced" stability treatment, but we have not done it yet. The most stable versions will be the Champion.
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Old Dec 29 2008, 04:33 PM   #8870
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Truthfully, I would just replace the TR with the TRXX and end all the versions. From my experiments the TRX-X is right where it needs to be. I guess if you wanted it flippier, then just throw lighter weights.

What is the name written on the back of the Champ TRX-X?

Are the TRX-X in Champ CFR's also?
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Old Dec 29 2008, 04:47 PM   #8871
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if Japan rules were ever mandated for all PDGA play, what discs would be undoable in 150g or less plastic? would disc evolution be stifled or just altered?
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Old Dec 29 2008, 09:22 PM   #8872
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Dave, what colors can you get Discatcher baskets in?
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Old Dec 29 2008, 10:36 PM   #8873
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Truthfully, I would just replace the TR with the TRXX and end all the versions. From my experiments the TRX-X is right where it needs to be. I guess if you wanted it flippier, then just throw lighter weights.

What is the name written on the back of the Champ TRX-X?

Are the TRX-X in Champ CFR's also?
The Champion I saw were marked TRX, but there were some others that I think were mistakenly marked TRXX, but are Wraith Xes. I think Mark Molnar would know better as he handles the CFR discs as much as anyone. He can be reached at his site discgolfvalues.com or at Innova west most days.
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All models are doable in DX. Valkyries are the present limit for Champion or Start, but we are working on that. In any case, disc evolution would not stop, drivers would generally be easier to accelerate, and fly farther, except upwind. Control shots would genrally be more difficult and would necessitate discs like the Rhyno and Pig to putt with in windy situations.
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Old Dec 29 2008, 10:47 PM   #8875
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The east coast office can make them any color.
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Old Dec 30 2008, 09:34 AM   #8876
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I have achieved excellent results approaching & putting with a 150 Goblin (DX or STAR) in pretty much any conditions (at least ones in which I would even consider venturing outside). My glow bag consists of 150g Ch. Viking, 150g DX Gremlin, 149g DX Goblin, & 169g Z Extreme (only for tommies, thumbers, & horseshoes) & I have considerably more cashing success with those discs than with my "normal" bag.
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Old Dec 30 2008, 11:15 AM   #8877
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Dave,
How many of the '83 Eagle's had the "TM" on the stamp?

Also, why was it removed?

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Old Dec 30 2008, 12:54 PM   #8878
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What was the Innova Christmas Disc this year? I think mine says SPD.

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Old Dec 30 2008, 01:08 PM   #8879
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It's a Discmania Power Driver.
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Old Dec 30 2008, 06:24 PM   #8880
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Also, why was it removed?

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Sorry, I don't know the answer to either. Total number of Eagles was 10,000.
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