Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[dgdave]

Yup. The destroyer mold is already approved, so it can be tweeked at will

[davei]

but will they be legal?

Yes, the tool wasn't changed but the discs are not as domey.

[zaschenbach1]

ok cool, but what about the weight i thought the highest thats alowed is 180

[veganray]

Production run will be 200-300 pieces of max weight (175g) discs, not a run of 200-300g discs.

[zaschenbach1]

lol thanks

[davei]

Production run will be 200-300 pieces of max weight (175g) discs, not a run of 200-300g discs.

Correct and the run ended up closer to 200 discs.

[Fossil]

Dave
I found a couple of these in a box of discs that I learned the game using. It is a Patent Pending Aero. Any idea on the date with this particular hotstamp?
I also have Pat Pend Avairs with two different fonts for "Patent Pending". Ideas here?
Thanks

[davei]

Dave
I found a couple of these in a box of discs that I learned the game using. It is a Patent Pending Aero. Any idea on the date with this particular hotstamp?
I also have Pat Pend Avairs with two different fonts for "Patent Pending". Ideas here?
Thanks

I am not sure when that Aero came out, but I would guess somewhere about 1986. The Aviars are two different ages. The small font was earlier, about 1984. The larger font was later. The smaller font should have one 2" diamter circle underneath. The larger font may or may not have a 2" circle. If it had 2 concentric circles, it was later yet.

[evandmckee]

We will only have two models available for SC. Regular stock Pulsars at 180g and Zephyrs at 180g-200g. The Zephyr mold is currently undergoing reconditioning. It has been out of commission for a while. Should be ready within a couple of weeks.

What about the Super Nova, is it still in production??

[cgkdisc]

I got one in a disc retail store around Sept. Flies about like the Zephyr with similar squared rim compared with the more rounded ultimate discs in that size.

[davei]

What about the Super Nova, is it still in production??

No longer in regular production, but still available in regular weights. Not 200g, though.

[rizbee]

Hi Dave,

What are the regular production weights for the Zephyr, and what plastics do you think you'll be running it in? Glow, perhaps? At 180-200g this could be the "killer disc" for Super Class.

[davei]

Hi Dave,

What are the regular production weights for the Zephyr, and what plastics do you think you'll be running it in? Glow, perhaps? At 180-200g this could be the "killer disc" for Super Class.

[davei]

Hi Dave,

What are the regular production weights for the Zephyr, and what plastics do you think you'll be running it in? Glow, perhaps? At 180-200g this could be the "killer disc" for Super Class.

We are running the Zephyr in DX 190-200gm. No glow, at this time. We will be testing it for the second time in Champion or Star fairly soon. Testing didn't go too well last time. My throwing tests showed a very good approach and putt disc with the Zephyr, but nothing special as a driver.

[John Keith]

Dave, a buddy of mine is going to run a super-Tourny with Zephyrs. WHen can he expect them?

[mf100forever]

We are running the Zephyr in DX 190-200gm. No glow, at this time. We will be testing it for the second time in Champion or Star fairly soon. Testing didn't go too well last time. My throwing tests showed a very good approach and putt disc with the Zephyr, but nothing special as a driver.

Dave, I can take care of the discs of the 1st test run

[davei]

Dave, a buddy of mine is going to run a super-Tourny with Zephyrs. WHen can he expect them?

They have been run so now they have to be shipped to the east coast and hot stamped. Probably two weeks. Maybe sooner.

[mikeP]

We are running the Zephyr in DX 190-200gm. No glow, at this time. We will be testing it for the second time in Champion or Star fairly soon. Testing didn't go too well last time. My throwing tests showed a very good approach and putt disc with the Zephyr, but nothing special as a driver.

Dave,
Are you considering designing better flying discs for Super Class or just remaking the existing molds that meet the standards?

[cgkdisc]

I was talking with Harold last night and we were thinking it would be a good challenge (should he choose to accept it) to see if Dave could come up with a Super Class design that could be thrown well with a forehand release since these discs in general are harder to control when thrown with power that way.

[rizbee]

I was talking with Harold last night and we were thinking it would be a good challenge (should he choose to accept it) to see if Dave could come up with a Super Class design that could be thrown well with a forehand release since these discs in general are harder to control when thrown with power that way.

**Apologies in advance for the thread drift...**

Isn't this violating the spirit of Super Class - trying to engineer a disc specifically for a better forehand golf shot? I thought Super Class was supposed to be for Ultimate-style discs, or at least the discs in Super Class were not supposed to be designed in such a way that makes Ultimate lids non-competitive in Super Class.

[Karma Police]

I agree. If you are an ultimate player you can probably already throw a forehand better than most disc golfers. The Super-class series might be a way to get more ultimate players interested in disc golf if they aren't already. I don't think we need a new 'class' of lids for these events. Isn't it all about 'keeping it old school'?

[cgkdisc]

It's not about keeping it old school. That's why there are Super Class specs not just a frozen set of already approved discs forever and ever. We expect new Super Class discs with hi-tech plastic, ones that are better for putting, rolling, forehands, overstable, understable, tiedyed, hotstamped and more to keep it interesting. However, the goal was to set the specs so ulty discs would still remain competitive even with more specialized discs. And, it's likely that any specialized discs will still throw similar to an ulty disc versus the major change required for bevel discs.

How many players throwing bevel discs today are still competitive and maintain their rating not throwing the latest longer distance drivers? It will still be the Indian not the arrows for Super Class just like bevel discs.

[tenWatt]

Dave,

I just received some Star TeeRex-X with a double stamp of the LARGE Innova "Star Stamp". Would these be First Run since they have the "Star Stamp"?

[davei]

Dave,

I just received some Star TeeRex-X with a double stamp of the LARGE Innova "Star Stamp". Would these be First Run since they have the "Star Stamp"?

Could be, but I really don't know. You might try asking Mark Molnar at discgolfvalues. He usually knows about those things.

[ellswrth]

Saw this on the approved list -- Dave, what's the story with the Innova Groove?

[davei]

Saw this on the approved list -- Dave, what's the story with the Innova Groove?

The Groove is a speed 13 driver with a big groove in the beveled edge to reduce weight. It is something like the Monarch, but more high speed stable and faster. It has a small high speed turn with a smaller overstability than a Boss or Destroyer.

[ellswrth]

Thanks! Sounds fun.

[gokayaksteven]

what plastics and weights [how light?] will the groove come in? when will it hit retailers?
thx again

[vadiscgolf]

Dave The new xmas discs say star PD on the bottom but resemble the test run destroyers. Just wondering what the disc actually was? Thanks

[RhynoBoy]

They don't feel anything like a destroyer when you hold it. I was thinking Power Driver?