Old Jan 14 2004, 11:46 AM   #841
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Brian, the Orc is only in Champion plastic. It will fit between the Beast and Starfire somewhere. Still a lot of testing to do. The heavier discs (172) I have thrown were more high speed stable than the lighter (164). The difference was more apparent into the wind.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 11:46 AM   #842
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Dave- Is it INN o va...or Inn O va ???
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Old Jan 14 2004, 11:52 AM   #843
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I putt the accent on the first syllable, but other people here at Inn' o va put the accent on the second. In no' va It could be either, both were intended: Innova tion, and In nova.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 01:36 PM   #844
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Hey Dave,
Do you have any plans on releasing any of the champion discs in Black? Perhaps the Black color doesn't take as well as the old CE or DX. I collect black discs and was just curious. And looking forward to the Orc! I have trouble turning my Beast over so hopefully this will be more overstable.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 01:37 PM   #845
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Dave-

Who does the illustrations for your DX discs? The Gremlin, in particular, is a great drawing. And how come they're not on the Champion versions?

Keep the mythological names coming!
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Old Jan 14 2004, 01:44 PM   #846
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boru, we have different artists doing different illustrations. I believe the Gremlin is by Joe Giebel from Michigan. Joe is also a pro level disc golfer. We make them different to try to help differentiate for the retailers and customers.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 01:48 PM   #847
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is it true that the Gremlin is coming back?
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Old Jan 14 2004, 02:45 PM   #848
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I honestly think if you could put icons from DX plastic discs on Champion discs without any text printed would really be cool. Like maybe the uhh sticker you're currently selling for Beast and a Roc (they're for sale at some online shops) where you also have your Innova logo on the side. Put that on a disc, that'd really be cool. I really liked my '03 Champion Roc cuz of its simplicity, just remove the US flag and there you have it, a good looking ROC disc.
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Martin, the Champion Gremlin will be back I believe. I don't have the last word on this. It's a committee thing, but I am pretty sure.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 05:51 PM   #850
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I am going to be getting an old Roc soon, and I wondered if you could tell me something about it.

This is a picture of it:

When were these rocs made? Is it just an old dx roc?
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Old Jan 14 2004, 06:06 PM   #851
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It looks to me like a Super (SE) Roc. They are Kick ***** discs. Super Grippy, Super Tough, nice and stable. Have not been made since around 2000 I believe.
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aha, so finally the name is revealed, and also revealed that dave is a lord of the rings fan you just gained 10 thousand more points in my book, if that was even possible. i love the name, just to let you know. im stoked that the new disc is going to be called the Orc. however, i do think at some point in the future, you should name a disc after a non evil character, perhaps the Elf. what do you think?
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Old Jan 14 2004, 06:26 PM   #853
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That is what I thought it was. One of my friends has a super roc and it actually says super roc on it. So I didn't know.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 06:29 PM   #854
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...unless it's a proto-Super Roc!
It's too shiney to be a proto-KC or a proto-Rancho...I think.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 06:40 PM   #855
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Can't be that old. I can't tell if it's DX or if it's a Super Roc. If it's shiney and springy, it's a Super Roc. If it's dull and not springy when you bend it, it's a special stamp DX. I don't think it is more than 5 years old. If it says Rancho Cucamonga on the bottom instead of Ontario, it certainly isn't.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 07:50 PM   #856
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The Orc is a schweet name! Dave, will you please make a Pterodactyl?
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I was actually thinking of something close. Pteranodon or most likely pterosaur. I would probably spell it pterosoar.
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Old Jan 14 2004, 08:19 PM   #858
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I was actually thinking of something close. Pteranodon or most likely pterosaur. I would probably spell it pterosoar.
Something with that name should be larger than the Condor...
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Bigger than the Condor, bigger than the Pulsar.... THE ALBATOSS!
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I think you should go with the original spelling. Or you could have an entire "soar" line: the chain-eating, long-distance TyrannoSOARus Rex, The overstabe StegaSOARus, slow flying AlloSOARus, etc. And the Caveman putter!
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How about a naming a disc based on sayings from different languages. I always thought a la ching would be a good disc name. A la ching.
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How bou't the HOBBIT. It could be a stable, durrable, approach disc! Or the DWARF, a slow overstable durrable midrange disc! Or how about the IMPOSSIBLE, a new Innova understable disc...theres an idea!!
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Wow, Matt, you have reached Harold's level with Albatoss.
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Old Jan 15 2004, 12:37 PM   #864
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How about the BIFF? Intimidate your opponents and smack the basket upside the head with the new BIFF> and special midrange, the McFly.

"Woah, nice BIFF!"
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He must be rubbing off on me...
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How bou't the HOBBIT. It could be a stable, durrable, approach disc! Or the DWARF, a slow overstable durrable midrange disc! Or how about the IMPOSSIBLE, a new Innova understable disc...theres an idea!!
Trees are no problem for the sloooooooooooooooooow-flying ENT . . . it just asks them to move.

And when all else fails, there's the GOLLUM, a squirrely, treacherous disc that somehow finds secret ways to the basket.

Ok, this is getting out of hand.
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what about the NAZGUL, the disc that screeches so loudly while flying that trees and other obstacles fall down and out of the way with fright?
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Old Jan 15 2004, 04:26 PM   #869
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wouldn't that also knock down the basket too?
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haha...hm...thats why innova then makes the new GANDALF basket!
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