Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs - Page 283

J_VanOver · Oct 21 2008, 03:31 PM

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new production run of Bosses have Feldberg on them

That is what made me ask the question. He is a 1X and he has a disc. Why doesn't some of the multiple champs other than Kenny, Juliana and Barry have a disc? Dean Tannock, Dave Greenwell, Dr. Rick, Des and Jay, Valerie, Peter Shrive with 8 World Championships, etc.

jmc2442 · Oct 21 2008, 03:35 PM

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Dave -- chicken/egg question:

are "Ching"/Full-Color Rocs flattened by the process or for the process?

Thanks!

I throw flat top full color rocs as my go-to midrange. I asked the same question previously and was told BY the process.

Got any max weight that you are trying to part with?

Skulls first, all others in a close second!

stack · Oct 21 2008, 04:03 PM

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new production run of Bosses have Feldberg on them

That is what made me ask the question. He is a 1X and he has a disc. Why doesn't some of the multiple champs other than Kenny, Juliana and Barry have a disc? Dean Tannock, Dave Greenwell, Dr. Rick, Des and Jay, Valerie, Peter Shrive with 8 World Championships, etc.

i think the short answer would be because they are in 'protected' divisions... although I could see Des/Val getting their name on a disc if/when they start racking up the titles like JK (maybe they already have a few... not sure and cant check with the website down).

I think they should make a 'David Wiggins Jr' signature mini (i believe he has 5 world titles... but something tells me he'll have a lot more including the 'one that counts' down the road!!!

junky · Oct 21 2008, 04:19 PM

Barry S. has a signature Beast

Jayviar · Oct 21 2008, 04:23 PM

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Barry S. has a signature Beast

As well as a signature Leopard.

jmc2442 · Oct 21 2008, 04:24 PM

he wrote OTHER than Kenny, Juliana and Barry. you missed the boat.

davei · Oct 21 2008, 04:57 PM

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new production run of Bosses have Feldberg on them

That is what made me ask the question. He is a 1X and he has a disc. Why doesn't some of the multiple champs other than Kenny, Juliana and Barry have a disc? Dean Tannock, Dave Greenwell, Dr. Rick, Des and Jay, Valerie, Peter Shrive with 8 World Championships, etc.

Open division gets the most weight, right or wrong. Next would be multiple championships. Harold Duvall probably should have been given a signiture disc long ago with 2 world open titles. The highest ranking protected division player would be Juliana, followed by Stan McDaniel, Peter Shive, and Des Reading. Most of the others you have mentioned are in consideration too.

JHBlader86 · Oct 21 2008, 05:19 PM

Would they have to get different discs other than the ones signed, or would they get to put their sig on the same disc? Example, one could have a KC Wraith, and a DT (Dean Tannock) Wraith.

Obviously they would fly exactly the same, but just putting their sig on a disc would show their accomplishments and Innova recognizing them.

junky · Oct 21 2008, 07:16 PM

Ive also heard that another player had a signature disc but not anymore.

AviarX · Oct 21 2008, 08:50 PM

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Robj, good idea. Hadn't really thought about it, but I like it. Thanks.

Hi Dave, it is 4 and a half years later so my question now is:

any plans for a 25th anniversary Aviar?

JHBlader86 · Oct 21 2008, 08:56 PM

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Ive also heard that another player had a signature disc but not anymore.

Juliana doesnt have the JK Valkyrie anymore so that could be who you are thinking of.

stack · Oct 22 2008, 12:05 AM

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....The highest ranking protected division player would be Juliana, followed by Stan McDaniel, Peter Shive, and Des Reading. Most of the others you have mentioned are in consideration too.

sign me up for some first run Mule discs!!! Stan McDaniel signature disc would be AWESOME!

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Ive also heard that another player had a signature disc but not anymore.

Juliana doesnt have the JK Valkyrie anymore so that could be who you are thinking of.

or maybe Cam Todd? (not sure if he ever had an Innova signature disc)

JHBlader86 · Oct 22 2008, 12:06 AM

There were rumors of Cam Todd TeeBirds but I think they were simply just rumors.

dgdave · Oct 22 2008, 12:13 AM

They weren't a Cam Signature discs, they were CE TBs that were stamped by him

davei · Oct 22 2008, 07:14 AM

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Robj, good idea. Hadn't really thought about it, but I like it. Thanks.

Hi Dave, it is 4 and a half years later so my question now is:

any plans for a 25th anniversary Aviar?

No plans yet, but a good idea.

stack · Oct 22 2008, 07:23 AM

how about 25th anniversary for the Roc?! (assuming it hasn't passed already)

krazybronco · Oct 22 2008, 10:44 AM

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Ive also heard that another player had a signature disc but not anymore.

i think a few people have had sig disc one was mentioned and the other that i have seen is a brad hammock wraith (every disc that had his sig on it is gold)

stack · Oct 22 2008, 10:52 AM

there are a lot of innova guys/gals who have had their signature on a stamped special run of discs (if this is what you are talking about)... what people are talking about here is a regular production run (like Barry's beast, Kenny's Roc, and now Feldberg's Boss)

JHBlader86 · Oct 22 2008, 11:03 AM

I think normally if an Innova player wins the Worlds then they are given 100 special discs with their name on them. Dr. Rick has given 2 of them to me, one being a Star TeeBird the other being a Gold Star Wraith, and I've seen Des Reading ones as well. But obviously these are not production run.

Dana · Oct 22 2008, 02:42 PM

Any idea on how many molds have been made in Echo?
Thanks

davei · Oct 22 2008, 03:21 PM

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Any idea on how many molds have been made in Echo?
Thanks

XCal, Destroy, Roadrunner, Kite, Leopard, Orc in Star. Other models in DX
Echo were Aviar, Aero, Leopard, Shark, and maybe a couple others.

rizbee · Oct 22 2008, 08:23 PM

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Dave - Why aren't there more signature discs? Innova has many World Champion players on its roster and in my opinion, they should be recognized with a signature disc. There is a section on each of the Innova disc pages with Pro comments. A lot of them have a particular pro that says this is my favorite disc and so forth. I'm fortunate enough to get to play with Dave Greenwell on occasion. He uses a Condor so much that I'm about ready to buy one just in hopes of getting some of his mojo and he is the one that has commented on the Condor page. I've also gotten to meet Dr. Voakes, he should have a line of 150g stuff with his name on it.

I think the Dr. Rick idea has some merit. If people saw the sig of a multi-time world champ on special "150-class" discs it might remove some of the stigma associated with throwing light plastic (e.g., heavy plastic is more manly). Could boost sales a bit, definitely in that product line.

Oh no!!! What am I saying?!?! This will only help other weenie-arms and geezers improve their games! I'll lose what compeitive edge I had on any of them!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaugh!!!!!!!

love the flip/flop contradiction in your post... 'stigma about big arms' then the 'weenie-arm' comment.

classic!

I'm merely pointing out the absurdity of the stigma by using it sarcastically later in the post. I'm sure you've seen or heard that rhetorical mechanism used before. Yes?

mf100forever · Oct 23 2008, 02:26 AM

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how about 25th anniversary for the Roc?! (assuming it hasn't passed already)

20th anniversary for the Roc was last year, you have to wait four years

.

travisgreenway · Oct 23 2008, 11:53 AM

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Any idea on how many molds have been made in Echo?
Thanks

XCal, Destroy, Roadrunner, Kite, Leopard, Orc in Star. Other models in DX
Echo were Aviar, Aero, Leopard, Shark, and maybe a couple others.

Can WE ALL buy them or are we still waiting.... I haven't seen a eco section on any of the websites

rollinghedge · Oct 23 2008, 12:32 PM

Dave,

I bought an Aviar P&A a month or three ago and it has the Patent #, the website engraved underneath and a single ring. I won another P&A as a CTP recently and it has both of the above plus the San Marino address on the bottom with a double ring. Is there any significant difference in the two?

TIA

davei · Oct 23 2008, 02:03 PM

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Any idea on how many molds have been made in Echo?
Thanks

XCal, Destroy, Roadrunner, Kite, Leopard, Orc in Star. Other models in DX
Echo were Aviar, Aero, Leopard, Shark, and maybe a couple others.

Can WE ALL buy them or are we still waiting.... I haven't seen a eco section on any of the websites

They are all available to any dealer who purchases them. They are still available in XCalibers, Leopards, and Wraiths. They are made in a limited supply and are not always available.

davei · Oct 23 2008, 02:06 PM

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Dave,

I bought an Aviar P&A a month or three ago and it has the Patent #, the website engraved underneath and a single ring. I won another P&A as a CTP recently and it has both of the above plus the San Marino address on the bottom with a double ring. Is there any significant difference in the two?

TIA

There is no significant difference. The www. core has been repaired. The San Marino core has not been repaired yet, but is slated to be.

citysmasher · Oct 23 2008, 09:52 PM

What I would like to see is a 11 speed Monarch. Any chance we will see this?

Also, when are we going to see Star Monarchs?

stack · Oct 23 2008, 10:13 PM

Dave... Do you feel like any of the PDGA legal specs are limiting you in creating next generation discs? Obviously you're doing a great job of finding ways to work within the specs... just curious if you could take the sport/discs to another level if some of the specs were relaxed... discs up to 200g? even wider wings? rigidity tests?

no specific reason for asking... just curious. to me its like giving a talented painter only a couple colors and a small canvas to work with... you'd wonder what he could do if the sky was the limit!

cgkdisc · Oct 23 2008, 10:23 PM

Think Aerobie...

Oct 21 2008, 04:19 PM	#8464
junky PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Norman Posts: 340	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Barry S. has a signature Beast __________________ J_ace 36157

Oct 21 2008, 04:24 PM	#8466
jmc2442 Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: da\' 724 Posts: 1,356	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 he wrote OTHER than Kenny, Juliana and Barry. you missed the boat.

Oct 21 2008, 05:19 PM	#8468
JHBlader86 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY USA Posts: 1,405	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Would they have to get different discs other than the ones signed, or would they get to put their sig on the same disc? Example, one could have a KC Wraith, and a DT (Dean Tannock) Wraith. Obviously they would fly exactly the same, but just putting their sig on a disc would show their accomplishments and Innova recognizing them.

Oct 21 2008, 07:16 PM	#8469
junky PDGA Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Norman Posts: 340	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Ive also heard that another player had a signature disc but not anymore. __________________ J_ace 36157

Oct 22 2008, 12:06 AM	#8473
JHBlader86 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY USA Posts: 1,405	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 There were rumors of Cam Todd TeeBirds but I think they were simply just rumors.

Oct 22 2008, 12:13 AM	#8474
dgdave Community Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norman, Ok Posts: 1,713	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 They weren't a Cam Signature discs, they were CE TBs that were stamped by him

Oct 22 2008, 07:23 AM	#8476
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 how about 25th anniversary for the Roc?! (assuming it hasn't passed already)

Oct 22 2008, 10:52 AM	#8478
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 there are a lot of innova guys/gals who have had their signature on a stamped special run of discs (if this is what you are talking about)... what people are talking about here is a regular production run (like Barry's beast, Kenny's Roc, and now Feldberg's Boss)

Oct 22 2008, 11:03 AM	#8479
JHBlader86 PDGA Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bowling Green, KY USA Posts: 1,405	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 I think normally if an Innova player wins the Worlds then they are given 100 special discs with their name on them. Dr. Rick has given 2 of them to me, one being a Star TeeBird the other being a Gold Star Wraith, and I've seen Des Reading ones as well. But obviously these are not production run.

Oct 22 2008, 02:42 PM	#8480
Dana PDGA Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: ILL Posts: 623	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Any idea on how many molds have been made in Echo? Thanks

Oct 23 2008, 12:32 PM	#8485
rollinghedge Membership Expired Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: t(-_-t) Posts: 721	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Dave, I bought an Aviar P&A a month or three ago and it has the Patent #, the website engraved underneath and a single ring. I won another P&A as a CTP recently and it has both of the above plus the San Marino address on the bottom with a double ring. Is there any significant difference in the two? TIA __________________ You can milk just about anything with nipples. mogwai

Oct 23 2008, 09:52 PM	#8488
citysmasher Community Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 479	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 What I would like to see is a 11 speed Monarch. Any chance we will see this? Also, when are we going to see Star Monarchs?

Oct 23 2008, 10:13 PM	#8489
stack Community Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 35.10069, -80.85513 Posts: 2,191	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Dave... Do you feel like any of the PDGA legal specs are limiting you in creating next generation discs? Obviously you're doing a great job of finding ways to work within the specs... just curious if you could take the sport/discs to another level if some of the specs were relaxed... discs up to 200g? even wider wings? rigidity tests? no specific reason for asking... just curious. to me its like giving a talented painter only a couple colors and a small canvas to work with... you'd wonder what he could do if the sky was the limit!

Oct 23 2008, 10:23 PM	#8490
cgkdisc PDGA Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 6,219	Re: Ask Dave D About Innova Part 4 Think Aerobie... __________________ Rater of the tossed arc.

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