Ask Dave Dunipace About Innova Discs

[krazybronco]

Dave,
What kind of DX Roc's are this years pumkins?

they are ranchos i have two one for the wall and one to throw

[junky]

Does that mean they are "Classic" or regular DX?

[dgdave]

They are the large diameter ranchos

[pdiddy71]

classic rocs are completely different discs.

[poisonelf]

Have classic aviars been changed back to the BB driver mold? I just ran across a stack of twenty at a local shop that were all BB or is this just a fluke?

[davei]

Have classic aviars been changed back to the BB driver mold? I just ran across a stack of twenty at a local shop that were all BB or is this just a fluke?

They could have been Aviar Drivers with the grid stamp, but they were not Classics as the Classic never had a BB.

[widiscgolf]

Hey Dave I'm sure this has been asked already...

Will the Boss be coming out in the Pro Plastic like the destroyer and wraith? If so do you have a ETA?

Thanks in advanced.

Josh

[AviarX]

why are Star versions of discs more expensive than Champion (market, materials, neither, both)?

also I initially found Star tended to break in faster and end up a little less stable than Champion but have heard that for some of the more stable distance drivers like the Destroyer the opposite is true (Star stays more overstable than Champion). is that true?

[davei]

Hey Dave I'm sure this has been asked already...

Will the Boss be coming out in the Pro Plastic like the destroyer and wraith? If so do you have a ETA?

Thanks in advanced.

Josh

We have no plans at present to run the Boss in Pro.

[davei]

why are Star versions of discs more expensive than Champion (market, materials, neither, both)?

also I initially found Star tended to break in faster and end up a little less stable than Champion but have heard that for some of the more stable distance drivers like the Destroyer the opposite is true (Star stays more overstable than Champion). is that true?

Cost of materials and molding; especially the reject rate.

[mikeP]

also I initially found Star tended to break in faster and end up a little less stable than Champion but have heard that for some of the more stable distance drivers like the Destroyer the opposite is true (Star stays more overstable than Champion). is that true?

Champion Destroyers stay stable much longer than Star. I've never heard any firsthand contradiction of this.

[mikeP]

We have no plans at present to run the Boss in Pro.

I hope you guys change your mind...I have a hunch they would fly farther than anything, but we can let the Champion Boss have its time in the limelight.

Question: I've thrown about 10 Bosses and I've not encountered any that were as stable as an Xcal. In a headwind this weekend the Boss was touchy...it definetely wanted to flip a decent amount. I think a stable run or an X version would be appreciated for big arms and wind(it makes the Xcal seem so slow...).

[gokayaksteven]

i am sure the next disc they come out with will be a more stable speed 13 disc. could be wrong...

[c_trotter]

The Boss bombs! I received two of the Dave Feldberg stamps today. Way more over-stable than expected. Very much like an Xcaliber with more speed and glide. They both are firm and have the pop-top that makes the heartbeat sound when you flex the flight plate. They consistently land 20-30 ft farther than expected. I need a flippy one for Max D.

I also finally found a comfortable power grip. I need to thank you Dave for talking me into at the Duos tourney. I couldnt throw the wide-rim stuff until now. See you at the Halloween Classic?

[kwibby1]

Hi Dave, is it possible to have a star material bottom and a pro material top? or any other combo? just wondering if you ever tried that before or if the two materials wouldn't adhere or combine... Thanks

[davei]

Question: I've thrown about 10 Bosses and I've not encountered any that were as stable as an Xcal. In a headwind this weekend the Boss was touchy...it definetely wanted to flip a decent amount. I think a stable run or an X version would be appreciated for big arms and wind(it makes the Xcal seem so slow...).

Right now, the domey Bosses are the more stable. If you don't get one with a "poppy top" then it will fly more like a Wraith than an XCaliber. The flatter the dome, the more touchy and flippy it will be.

[davei]

Hi Dave, is it possible to have a star material bottom and a pro material top? or any other combo? just wondering if you ever tried that before or if the two materials wouldn't adhere or combine... Thanks

Yes, it is possible, but takes more steps to accomplish, and would be more expensive.

[stack]

Yes, it is possible, but takes more steps to accomplish, and would be more expensive.

would 1/2 and 1/2 ever work? 1/2 star 1/2 champ or something really clear? (like a 1/2 moon cookie... mmmmm coookie!) or maybe a little ying yang looking? understand the cost and the 'why would I want to' factor... just curious

[mikeP]

would 1/2 and 1/2 ever work? 1/2 star 1/2 champ or something really clear? (like a 1/2 moon cookie... mmmmm coookie!) or maybe a little ying yang looking? understand the cost and the 'why would I want to' factor... just curious

I've seen more than enough Innova plastic over the years to confirm that these sort of things happen with some regularity. I've seen almost clear star, all kinds of variations of champ, pro that was like Star before Star existed, etc. Products of Innova's infamous night shift...

[travisgreenway]

That would be cool but would one side of the disc beat in faster....DX/Pro for wet weather....cool but prolly not gonna make it....the top and bottom would be cool though and at least I would pay a little more for a combo disc

[Birdie]

Yeah but you can sell anything to a Texan...

[travisgreenway]

We can't help but buy things with all the money we win a OKIE' tourneys

[gokayaksteven]

Dave--will you guys be coming out with another speed 13 disc that is more [over]stable than the boss? if so, when? also--looking forward to the 150 dx boss. Lastly--I believe you said somewhere that this is as wide as innova's rims will go. Is this true? thx again--

[J_VanOver]

Dave - Why aren't there more signature discs? Innova has many World Champion players on its roster and in my opinion, they should be recognized with a signature disc. There is a section on each of the Innova disc pages with Pro comments. A lot of them have a particular pro that says this is my favorite disc and so forth. I'm fortunate enough to get to play with Dave Greenwell on occasion. He uses a Condor so much that I'm about ready to buy one just in hopes of getting some of his mojo and he is the one that has commented on the Condor page. I've also gotten to meet Dr. Voakes, he should have a line of 150g stuff with his name on it.

[stack]

new production run of Bosses have Feldberg on them

[rizbee]

Dave - Why aren't there more signature discs? Innova has many World Champion players on its roster and in my opinion, they should be recognized with a signature disc. There is a section on each of the Innova disc pages with Pro comments. A lot of them have a particular pro that says this is my favorite disc and so forth. I'm fortunate enough to get to play with Dave Greenwell on occasion. He uses a Condor so much that I'm about ready to buy one just in hopes of getting some of his mojo and he is the one that has commented on the Condor page. I've also gotten to meet Dr. Voakes, he should have a line of 150g stuff with his name on it.

I think the Dr. Rick idea has some merit. If people saw the sig of a multi-time world champ on special "150-class" discs it might remove some of the stigma associated with throwing light plastic (e.g., heavy plastic is more manly). Could boost sales a bit, definitely in that product line.

Oh no!!! What am I saying?!?! This will only help other weenie-arms and geezers improve their games! I'll lose what compeitive edge I had on any of them!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaugh!!!!!!!

[davei]

Dave--will you guys be coming out with another speed 13 disc that is more [over]stable than the boss? if so, when? also--looking forward to the 150 dx boss. Lastly--I believe you said somewhere that this is as wide as innova's rims will go. Is this true? thx again--

Yes, this is as wide as we will go. We might make a speed 13 model that is more stable, but it might not be possible as we are very close to the weight limit now. If we did, the discs would most likely only be 175 gms in Champion or Star. We have no plans at this point, but that could change by next year some time.

[stack]

I think the Dr. Rick idea has some merit. If people saw the sig of a multi-time world champ on special "150-class" discs it might remove some of the stigma associated with throwing light plastic (e.g., heavy plastic is more manly). Could boost sales a bit, definitely in that product line.

Oh no!!! What am I saying?!?! This will only help other weenie-arms and geezers improve their games! I'll lose what compeitive edge I had on any of them!!! Aaaaaaaaaaaaugh!!!!!!!

love the flip/flop contradiction in your post... 'stigma about big arms' then the 'weenie-arm' comment.

classic!

[cgkdisc]

Dave - Why aren't there more signature discs? Innova has many World Champion players on its roster and in my opinion, they should be recognized with a signature disc.

I believe Innova pays the person some royalty per disc with the signature on it. If putting a person's signature on a disc isn't perceived to generate more sales than with no signature, it's strictly a business decision that has nothing to do with how many titles a particular player has.

[ZAMson]

Dave -- chicken/egg question:

are "Ching"/Full-Color Rocs flattened by the process or for the process?

Thanks!